How the Nicene & Athanasian creeds destroyed the Father & Son relationship and the Plan of Salvation

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • This clip is an excerpt from a podcast with Rod Meldrum, James Stoddard, and Hannah Stoddard on the doctrine and principles contained in 2 Nephi 31-33. Watch the entire interview here! • Lesson 10 Come Follow ...
    The Nicene and Athanasian creeds appear to be Christian declarations, claiming a worship of God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Why then did the Lord declare, in reference to these declarations, that “all their creeds were an abomination in his sight”?
    The Athanasian Creed proclaims that we must, “worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance.” The creed discusses a father and a son, but then describes an idea that destroys the true doctrine of our Father in Heaven and His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ.
    Why is the devil so determined to promote this lie? If the doctrine of the Son of God submitting in every way to the will of the Father, overcoming all things and returning faithfully to the Father is lost, we have no example in which to look to gain salvation. The doctrine of a Son presupposes the potential of that Son becoming as the Father is. Remove the doctrine of a Son and we have no prototype in which to look for salvation. Without the exemplar of the path to the Father we would all be damned. Simply stated, without Jesus’ perfect example we could not know the way to find the happiness that our Heavenly Father desires us to have.

Комментарии • 14

  • @DoctorSuezz
    @DoctorSuezz 5 месяцев назад +12

    THIS is a really important value that I believe we should be reiterating often at church and in the home... it's not up to the Apostles to tell us this every 6 months, we need to be more proactive in teaching this particular subject. ❤

  • @BettyHorn
    @BettyHorn 5 месяцев назад +9

    I need to check out the entire video! So, so interesting!

    • @FromAgonyToLight
      @FromAgonyToLight 5 месяцев назад

      Of course you’re here sister 😂 always on such inspiring videos

  • @user-xm8wv6zl4w
    @user-xm8wv6zl4w 5 месяцев назад

    More wonderful truths.

  • @samstokes6872
    @samstokes6872 Месяц назад +1

    Excuse me, can you show me where the Nicene Creed “took away the Father and the Son?”
    This sounds like building straw men without actually understanding the Christian view of the triune God.

  • @toriagardner1365
    @toriagardner1365 5 месяцев назад

    Lesson 13 gone?

    • @JosephSmithFoundation
      @JosephSmithFoundation  5 месяцев назад +2

      The Joseph Smith Foundation team took a break from posting our weekly podcast for Resurrection Sunday in honor of the miracle and blessing of the Resurrection. However, we did post a list of music and movies celebrating the atonement of Jesus Christ and the Resurrection on our website for Lesson 13. josephsmithfoundation.org/for-our-day-lesson-13-resurrection-sunday/ We hope you enjoy today remembering the Father and His Son Jesus Christ!

  • @RLDRemembrance
    @RLDRemembrance 5 месяцев назад

    Yes!!! Facts, facts, facts!

  • @Poeina
    @Poeina 5 месяцев назад +2

    It was always taught God was a spirit. look into Judaism and you’ll see that’s how God was always taught. That’s how God became man and dwelt among us. his spirit came over Mary and he became Man to teach us the way. It so sad how misled these people are. Christs church is not the LDS church.

    • @nonyabusiness890
      @nonyabusiness890 5 месяцев назад +2

      This is just not true and when you apply critical thinking to it much of “modern Christianity” just simply makes no sense. The LDS church is Christ’s church and is the most correct of all sects of Christianity.

    • @nute742
      @nute742 5 месяцев назад

      The bible also says "God is Love" God is good, etc. However those are just some of His "attributes". That is why there are so many metaphors, nuances, different meanings that not everything is "literal" in the bible (and also sometimes visa versa too)! Jesus did say "if you've seen the father you've seen me" Okay food for thought definitely.

    • @losmcdonald
      @losmcdonald Месяц назад

      @@nonyabusiness890 “God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.””
      ‭‭John‬ ‭4‬:‭24‬ ‭ESV‬‬