Jaynalysis: Disney's First Non-Binary Character (Technically)
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As promised, here is Jordan Fringe's video: ruclips.net/video/6T0P7PmuwKw/видео.html
that alien has always stuck in my mind
“You can’t just ask someone why they’re white!”
still classic.
Heck whenever someone brings up the show, the first episode that comes to my mind is the one where Lloyd meets the girl he wants to invite to the dance but it turns out she has TWO heads like a Doduo with one being sweet and the other being mean.
Woah totally forgot about that one!
Interesting how the whole show is them arguing over what gender they should be. And then in the end, nobody finds out. It really shows human curiosity over the subject, but also in the end does it really matter? Good points about exposure playing a part in gender role stereotypes as the generations grow up
Great video, always love quality work and deep discussions! Also, Lmao I appreciate the shout out, great minds think alike, my video will be out Monday!
Thanks brother! I'll post it here when it's out!
this episode was wayyyyy ahead of its time. as a little kid who had no knowledge of gender stuff, ESPECIALLY being nonbinary, and this was a fascinating episode for me. flash forward and i'm a proudly nonbinary adult, and looking back on this episode and how it made me feel is really interesting
also, zoit is just an adorable character, their design and personality are just delightful! love that lil friend
I actually love the look of those "girl" Nerf toys. Gender stuff aside, I just think they have a more interesting aesthetic than the "boy" ones. As long as it was the exact same toy functionally, I probably would have wanted one in that style if I'd had the choice when I was a kid. It would've been cool if they just released them as alternate designs in the main toy line without making it a new "for girls!" line, because stereotypically girly designs should be for everyone just as much as stereotypically boyish designs.
(My mom dressed me in yellow as a baby too. Yellow and green were the typical colors that parents got everything in beforehand if they didn't know what the baby would be before it was born.)
Not gonna lie, the Rebelle "Sweet Revenge" looks really cool and I would have totally bought it if I saw it. Also I was dressed in yellow too!
I've never seen this show but wow, how interesting that this was a storyline! Great video as always!
From my perspective, this *does* hold up and is ahead of its time. The episode is making fun of these (specifically) arbitrary gender divisons.
Agreed. The ending itself felt an awful a lot like, "lol, the cishets are not okay" because the debate started all over again now on heteronormative lines. The episode is solid, especially if you realized that folks can be non-binary. If it led to self discovery in the viewer, then the episode did it's job.
@@noireisbest6786 lol nonbinary isn't real. it's obvious the episode is saying u dont have to be strictly manly or girly and u can like things typically associated with the other sex. but cuz this show is fictional, they can explain the message in a differnt way...hence the nonbinary character. kids will get the moral regardless. but kids then weren't dumb enough to think they could be neither gender. now we got grown adults and teens saying they are. u rly think they were talking about nonbinary in humans (which doesnt exist) in a show form 20 yrs ago?
and before u say theres a difference between sex and gender...well then why should i refer to seomone as their 'chosen' gender rather than what their biological sex is? last time i checked the two sexes have many differences that can't be ignored. sex trumps your 'gender' so gender isnt relevant at all. do u go to the doctor and say you're nonbinary expecting your doctor to ignore health issues that might pertain to your biological sex?
@@MsDudette21 Going to the doctor is a very specific context, that is different. And you don't choose your gender, you just are, even if that's different than your assigned gender at birth.
@@MsDudette21 I love that it can be read both ways. I definitely see the character as being non-binary because by definition they didn’t know what their gender was but of course I didn’t know the term as a kid but also this is more to teach the lesson that specific interests don’t make you that associated gender.
NOTE I’m a conservative saying this but also what can you refer to Zoit as. This is one of those instances where I can truly not feel right calling them by either gender. Funny because it’s a damn cartoon.
"Heteronormative"... lol It's a fucking cartoon alien. Humans are either male or female. End of story. @@noireisbest6786
I think this episode is interesting not only for the technically nonbinary character, but also the way it plays with the way kids view gender
It has been YEARS since I've watched Lloyd In Space!
A neat touch is the fact they are purple. The in between of blue and red/pink
This was an iconic episode that is truly understated. I have always remembered this since I first saw it.
Zoit has a great sense of humor - they clearly see's these other kids as culturally different who has yet to understand these concepts and finds humor in them gendering their activities since both groups have individuals who enjoy them regardless of gender.
So when Zoit jokes the kids won't know until they have a crush on one of them it could be because Zoit had picked a gender but has no need to disclose it unless they're romantic with the person - which means Zoit could still be gay or straight or bisexual.
Since Zoit has chosen not to disclose, it does make them non-binary I'm social settings and perhaps only those on a need to know basis will ever know.
I'm glad to see you branching out to more topics and especially glad to see you talking about nonbinary representation in cartoons! Nice job my friend
Thanks for watching, Kiki!
I remember this episode. This was ahead of its time.
I remembered when I was younger, other kids thought I was gay because I'm a girl who likes wrestling which has a large male demographic. I thought it was really stupid to think that.
Even after all these years, this episode has always stuck out in my mind. I don't remember the opening theme song, I don't remember the names of the characters, I don't even remember some of the actual characters. But I remember this episode and can still give a beat for beat summary of the plot after only having seen the episode once when I was four. It's oddly progressive for the time.
The fact that there's a character that doesn't identify as male or female but gets to pick which to be after a birthday, the boys and the girls try to influence them to pick the gender of their group so they can have an extra person to hang out with, and the twist is we never find out they say everyone can if one of them ask them out on a date and everyone immediately switches gears with the boys wanting to ask "her" out and the girls wanting to ask "him" out. It's just interesting they managed to do this with respect from a show that started in 2001.
Yeaa me too loool I always thought he was a boy and the fact that he/she didn't identify is genre it bug me loll 😅
The bikes in the episode do have "girl" and "boy" colors, but they also have two designs, the ones designed for the boys have a straight bar and the ones designed for the girls have a bent bar, I haven't seen the episode but that might be what they meant when they checked for a "boy" or "girl" bike
ngl zoit did the chaddest of chad moves.
The iconic part is I used to collect & play with the regular Legos when I was younger. But now I have zero Legos. I was never into Nerf but as soon as Nerf Rebel I got as many as I could get my hands on. Never the bow & arrows just the blasters. But I still have them & I wish they were still around.
Awesome video Jay. Really interesting that a show, from this era, especially a kids show would dive deep into such a nuanced topic as gender identity. I haven't seen the episode but from what you describe it as it seems like they did a decent job writing the character especially for 2002
i always thought this show was a fever dream because nobody else i know has ever heard of it. the theme song was a banger though
This is a really good video, and you touch on something many people don't understand about themselves or think about because it's so ingrained in our culture: do gender stereotypes make us (decide) our gender because it's so ingrained into us, or do we decide what our gender is and fit ourselves to the stereotypes/only expose ourselves/get exposed to the stereotypes. Your episodes on gender are very well done and interesting.
I worded that ^ a bit poorly, what I also mean is cis people at times become afraid to discuss gender and how they identify outside of the stereotypes because for many that's so ingrained that's how they know which they are, but they don't examine why they know, like the chicken and the egg: which came first? Feeling like a boy/girl then came the liking of blue and trucks/pink and dolls, or the like of it then being told that's a boy/girl thing and therefore we are?
As a kid I just played with what I enjoyed. My mom didn’t care what “gender” the toy was marketed to. And I really appreciate that because that wasn’t common in the late 90s to early 2000s.
I already left a longer comment about this episode on Jordan's video but to sum it up here...
I find it weird how this episode is seemingly, and I believe accidentally Pro-Trans while simultaneously being anti-gay with the last line of the episode implying that who Zoit develops a crush on would be telling of what gender Zoit choose to be... totally ignoring that he could be a boy and still have a crush on another boy or she could be a girl and still have a crush on another girl.
I totally forgot about the kids arguing over which ONE of them Zoit would have a crush on which also means this episode is setting up unrealistic expectations that Zoit only can have one crush when in fact a person have multiple crushes through out their adolescence before finding the person they're going to spend the rest of their life with. And if Zoit turns out to be Bi the same confusion about "Are you a boy or a girl" could occur all over again.
why are u comparing today's standards to a tv show from 20 years ago? rly? this episode had nothing to do with being trans because that wasn't accepted then. it was about accepting people being nuanced with how masculine or feminine they are. the moral is that not all guys are strictly manly and not all girls are strictly girly. its ok to like things that are moreso associated with the opposite sex. but this is a fictional show about aliens so they can make it someone having neither sex 'real'. but u have to apply it to reality. but of course everyone is applying today's standards to then. no one is saying you are nonbinary cuz u arent. grow up. its ok to like things that opposite sex typically associates with. duh!
Tbh this is the only Episode engraved in my then very young brain since when I saw it. Now when I remember this show this is what I remember.
(Long rant ahead, summary: I grew up outside the gender norm and people took it upon themselves to catergize and sexualize me as a young lady. It was weird and alientating and turns out I'm just asexual and neurodivergent, not a mistake or "not like other girls"... Gender roles are made up and the points don't matter when the children feel like they're wrong or bad for not fitting in.)
I'm a queer woman of color who uses she/they pronouns to make it easier on people. I've been asked, accused, and harassed about my gender identity since I was 5. Do you know how much pressure is put on girls to act like girls? And when they don't act like girls OR boys, how weird and almost hostile they're treated?
Seriously, I thought I was trans for like a year and half when I was 13 because everyone kept telling me I was weird and wrong as a girl. Getting told I had "good birthing hips" at 12 years old was probably a big reason I became more masculine presenting in high school, because I was 12 and that's fucking gross. I didn't feel like I was wrong or bad, I just didn't like makeup or dress up or the colors pink or purple (mostly because they wash me out, I look yellow or green with those colors, I stick to neutrals and deep reds) and I didn't like playing "girly games". Which I did, I played dress up games and sims online. BUT I also didn't like sports or bugs or "boy games". I liked puzzles, reading, and listening to music. Girly music? I liked alt rock, nu metal, and punk music. I also like pop music. Was I non-binary or trans?
Growing up, my very existence was "challenging" gender roles. I got in trouble at school for wearing pants to my high school graduation ceremony. I got laughed at in college when I told a group of girls on my floor that I didn't like makeup and they told me "yeah, it's probably a lot of effort for you" which... wtf, rude. I got asked multiple times, through my 5 years of undergrad, if I was a trans man or trans woman by multiple different "allies" on campus. Being called ma'am and "young man" throughout college also didn't help. I was the first person to be excited by the addition of pronouns onto badges. Because watching people struggle with my pronouns was exhausting.
Anyway: gendering likes and dislikes is weird and backwards. Because many societies have conflicting gender roles, which makes sense because they're fake. I don't have to like dresses or heels or makeup to be a woman, nor do those dislikes make me a boy. I'm a woman, I just look different than your weird idealized version of a lady. I'm not a "tomboy" or a "soft butch" or whatever weird terms we have for people, just a woman with a personality not dependent on my reproductive potential.
Thank you for sharing your story❤
@@austindrinksfanta I always like to bring up my personal gender experience, as a cis woman "accused" of being trans. It's one of those things I bring up because a lot of people misunderstand gender and sex and how those ideals and roles are pushed on kids. Since I have the privilege as a cis woman, I'll use it to show other cis people that their opinions on the "trans agenda" is backwards.
This story really struck a chord in me, some parts of it being rather familiar. Thank you for sharing this!
Omg I thought I dreamed this episode up. Thank you for covering this!
Even to this day I am bamboozled by Lego Friends. I follow Lego a lot and still have no idea why it's so popular.
I differences between Friends and any other theme are a bit more than what you mentioned but still not that extreme. There are the mini dolls (as you said), but Friends sets also have lot more flowers, hearts, and butterflies in their imagery are predominantly colored with a lot more pinks, purples, and lighter shades of blues and greens. They follow the same pastel color scheme that is ubiquitous in other popular female marketed themes like Barbie, My Little Pony, and Littlest Pet Shop.
I also think thematically that Lego Friends is different from it's competition because while most other themes focus on conflict (EX: Fighting a bad guy, catching a criminal, rescuing someone) Lego friends is way more slice of life. A Friends police station isn't on the prowl for the latest criminal with some thieves locked up in jail like a Lego City police station would be, a Friends policy station is just a calm, ordinary police station.
But structurally, you are right the sets aren't really different from say a typical Lego city set. But the fact that they sell so well tells me that a lot of girls must really like the mini dolls, the colors, or the lack of conflict in the sets. It has to be one or multiple of these qualities that make them choose Lego Friends over Lego City or Ninjago or anything else. And it's these same factors that are dissuading boys from buying Lego friends sets.
And maybe it's because I'm not a girl, but I never saw the appeal of Lego Friends. Girls should be able to play with Lego as much they want but I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would pick a Lego Friends set over a Lego City, Star Wars, Ninjago set, etc. It just doesn't seem as cool or interesting as all those other options but money talks and I guess Lego knew what they were doing when they made their smash hit.
Whether it's something intrinsic or just societal norms, a lot of little girls seem to like dolls, pastel colors, hearts, flowers, rainbows, and a lack of conflict. And a lot of little boys like action, adventure, darker colors, and conflict in their toys. And if that's what each respective gender _generally_ likes, then I can't really get mad at Lego for capitalizing on it.
Thank you for reminding me about Nerf Rebel. I needed a good laugh and seeing those commercials again sure brought a few out of me! XD
NOT ON DISNEY+
Put a request in for the show in their help page
Thank you for reminding me this show exists lmao
This is one of the only episodes I remember from this show but it's one that I think about ALL the time and I couldn't remember what show it was from until now. Thanks for this!
Fun fact a Lloyd magnet appeared in Amphibia.
This was my egg cracking as a child
I remembered this episode and put it on for my friends (a group of born bio female, but one was NB and one trans )
And we died luaghing at that
", its one thing if it was an accident but who would chose to be a girl"
i wish I knew about this show as a kid! I probably would've been like "you can do that!?!"
LOL
“It’s one thing If it’s a accident at birth like you guys”
GODDAMN HE DIDN’T HAVE TO GO THAT FAR
Yeah I thought Cindy's species always have to heads because Kurt said and I quote "yeah Lloyd I know plenty of two headed kids"
I think about this episode all the time, you're the first person I've ever seen talk about it
This video was so good it made me want to subscribe to your channel, but then I realized I already was subscribed lol :))
I was JUST telling my husband about this ep!
Yes lmao thought nobody remembered this show at all! thanks for covering this topic
This episode had such a major affect on my entire life, both this episode and the episode of fairly oddparents where Timmy wished to be a girl stuck with me my entire life and helped me figure myself out as transgender ♥
I wound up looking into the Fred's Head episodes mentioned: If anyone's curious, the clip with the Panook interview is from Episode 10: "A Moldy Friendship" and the clip with the resolution is from Episode 22: "The Wheels of Doubt"
This episode was ahead of its time.
This is literally the only episode I remember of this show xD
Took this show outta my core memory
I... _think_ I saw this show as a kid. Usually I'm able to dredge up some buried vague memories with old shows that left no impact like this, but this one is just "that sounds kinda familiar maybe".
Oh wow this is like the only episode I remember from Lloyd in Space.
This video is going to make me re-evaluate my clothing, music, and overall taste to see if it falls more in line with girlhood, boyhood, or a mix of both.
I will always remember this episode
This episode was hella formational for me in my understanding of gender and trans/nb-ness. I was the first time I'd seen a character defy gender (aside from Silence of the Lambs but that's on the other end of the spectrum)
For the hell of it Analysis Rick Platypus from the Gym Partner That Darn Platypus. Due to being apart of CN Invaded
I agree with your analysis of music today, it’s by no means in depth but you kind of tapped onto something I have always wondered about which is why most of the producers of popular songs today are men. When I used soundation, an amateur music production studio, I noticed that the overwhelming majority of their users were men and that was especially true when you looked at only the people making their own clips rather than just using loops or samples. I also noticed that several of the people there believed it was because women just aren’t good at producing music or mixing it like men are, and I have no idea where that idea came from except that in psychology, there’s a concept where essentially if for example most music producers are men then people are generally going to assume it’s because they’re more qualified or enjoy the craft of producing music more but really I think it’s because of exactly what you talked about. I think girls just aren’t encouraged to make their own music or express themselves in that way as much as they are encouraged to enjoy singing and maybe songwriting since I think there are at least an equal number of women and male songwriters. Idk life is weird
Oh I love this show
This video only being uploaded 3 weeks ago doesn't feel real, feel like it's been at least 3 months since I saw this
Any character from over the garden wall would be a great analysis, and also spooky themed lol
Very interesting
7:36 nah i’m still mad about lego friends because before it released i was super into lego ninjago and lego city but then once lego friends released my parents would never let me get those anymore because “they make legos for GIRLS now” which would have been fine because the lego friends are fun to play with but i wanted to build and tear down and rebuild stuff but the lego friends sets always had much simpler, easier builds and i hated it. it’s been like 6 years and i’m still mad about it
your parents are smegheads :(
Oh yeah BIG MOOD, my first reaction to there being a lego for girls was "wait, lego wasn't already for girls?" A lot of the time whenever a line launches a "for girls" version its just the start of marketing the regular version as "for boys only", when girls already played with it before. I feel like these kinds of things are just shallow cash grabs to make more products and thus more money, rather than a genuine attempt at diversity of any sort.
When i heard of lego friends i didnt think of it as a "for girls" lego i thought of it of more as a kids playset of legos like a lego doll house more than an actual lego build because when i was a kid in the early 2000s i remember having pink lego windows and doors and stuff that was "girly" and also typical lego but lego friends came out when i was an adult
I guess the owl house isn't the first disney show to have an enby character.
So how would Girly Boy or a Tomboy work ? Like Peppiment Patty , Numbah 5 and Lynn Loud ?
Can you do a character analysis on Mandy from Billy and Mandy
Omg I forgot about this show😭😭
How did you do this video without running out of breath
They’re just like me fr 🥺🥺🥺
I remember stealing my younger brother's Nerf guns when we were little - when I saw Nerf Rebelle on TV, I was smitten. But that was just because the colour purple has my heart on a string.
My parents never got any because we already had more than enough chaos with toy guns in the house as it was.
Thank you SO much for making this. Looking back, I think this is the first time I ever saw a non-binary character in media. As a non-binary, unicycle riding, space nerd, this means a lot.
Amber from Andi Mack, I think shes was quite a confusing character that need some analization
Man shout out to Fred's head very good show
My mind is gone
I can't believe it! Somebody else who remembers Fred's Head!
I always thought Zoi gave me Bobby Hill vibes but I could not figure out why now I know
Lego friends is amazing!!!
Where. I have to know where you FOUND LIKE... FOOTAGE. In probably fifteen years of searching, I've never seen a SHRED about this show, I thought it was scrubbed from the web up 'til this moment
So a quick comment relating to the discussion on Girl Nerf and Girl Legos. In the case of Nerf the only difference is the color choice and design, but the aspect and enjoyment of the toy stays the same, that being shooting people. If your interested in nerf no matter what gender you are your probably going to prefer the "boy" designs as it has a bit more of that aggressive and powerful style compared to that of the "female" designs which has a more sleek and smooth look.
With Legos the difference is the setting and story that the toys set up. Lets just take your images as example at 7:32 and 7:33.
The first image looks like what I would assume either a vacation setting where you hike up a mountain, enjoy the view, travel down the zip line, and relax in a cottage. Maybe you save those lammas? But either way it has a very relaxing setting.
The second set on the other hand has monkey men with spears and staffs, traps on the mountain, cruddly built ragts, giving off much more of an air of action, adventure, and combat.
As the years go on I think we are beginning to have a society were we are marketing more to Masculine people and Feminin people rather then boys or girls to become more inviting to the Tomboys and the...... crap, I actually don't know what the term is for a feminine guy.... Tomgirl? Either way I don't see society changing enough where masculine toys or entertainment isn't dominated by boys and vice versa. Though we all have a pinch of one or the other, I kind of like how the show points it out with each guy enjoying one of the activities the girls do, for me it would probably be the Jazzersizing lol.
Thank you for talking about Fred’s Head! It’s such an amazing and witty show. It’s all on RUclips, if it would ever interest you for further analysis. It’s character exploration is subtle and surprisingly nuanced for a Canadian project aimed at kids to young adults. I could rave about this show for hours honestly!
Edit: thank you so much for the heart, I would’ve thought with how briefly you mentioned the show in this video that I’d get lost in the chaos. Lovely work as always. Can’t wait to see what projects you have in store
On Wikipedia this is the first non-binary character in American animation... never expected it to be in a show like this
Could you so a jaynalsis on tori's mom?
There really isn't much to analyze. It'd be more of a theory video and that isn't really Jay's kinda style
she sucks at parenting.
I said this for years before anyone even talked about it looool
I’ll tell you what boy and girl music is today… sad, everyone’s music is sad now
LOL
Gender neutral bathrooms existed in 2002 tho? They're called family restrooms or unisex or single occupant restrooms they have the sign with the man next to the woman next to the person in the wheelchair (the third gender, disabled). It wasn't a transgender acceptance thing it was for parents with kids of a different gender than them.
They weren’t really a thing in schools though, the only one I remember in my school at that time was in the nurses office.
@@Savannah_Simpson weird my 3ed elementary school, middle and high school all had a few
ppl were still homophobic then. why anyone would think being transgender acceptance or being nonbinary is real as the message is beyond me
Zoit my precious
LIS was great!
We Stan voit
A bit random but HOMELANDER from The Boys, at least season 1 & 2
for such an f-ed up character they do well at adding all the layers and backstory to explain his actions whilst also not justifying/absolving all of them.
His weird seudo mother relationships, his abandonment issues, his triggers, his obsession with milk all without being too heavy-handed
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I would say phoebe Bridgers and Aurora widely considered to be girl music… Although I'm not a girl… And I like them… So I don't know… I definitely get people looking at me weird when I mentioned that I like these bands unless they happen to be queer, in which case it doesn't even phase them. I suppose it depends who you talk to...? realistically though, yeah, there's no such thing as boy music, or girl music it's just stupid dark age stuff.
Can you please do an anylist on Raine from the Owl House? They're non-binary too
Producers are officers of corporations, whereas the singers and rappers are the content that the producers profit off of. It's a grift.
So it would be mean to call the species " It " ?
I’ll be honest... never heard of this show. I think that’s just because I’m younger than you tho. Yeah I was alive in 2002 but I might’ve been too young.
Anyway i agree that it’s weird that people place their gender identity on their interests back in those days. I think putting things in space or a different world nowadays gives more leeway to writers to make characters gay or non binary or any other identity. So it was def a missed opportunity in my book! Imo I think the episode is okay. Like in terms of what kids should know, they should just know that non-binary people exist. Kinda like how shows would teach kids about Jewish people existing (like Robbie Shapiro. He’s Jewish but his whole identity isn’t Jewish) they should just know that people of other various identities exist and how to be respectful (like maybe a non-binary person who wants to be an aspiring dancer. Their arc will be on their aspirations and maybe one or two episodes on non-binary problems like gender neutral bathrooms).
Non binary isn't real though. It's just a male or female feeling insecure or inadequate about themselves at times and pretending to be the other sex just to make themselves feel better.
Only in fiction can non binary exist.
this ep somehow manages to be both progressive and regressive at the same time.
Honestly this episode was amazing for its time, and even still resonates nowadays. It has a lot of really sexist moments and awful treatment of Zoit, which are all really hard for a nonbinary person to watch, honestly. But every one of these moments is shown to be wrong, they only show the characters being so awful to really drive home the message that what they're doing IS awful, and Zoit isn't the one who's in the wrong here. I especially liked that they not only showed that Zoit didn't fit their stereotypes, but that even the boys and girls pushing these stereotypes didn't fit perfectly into them themselves and would probably be happier if they just let themselves enjoy their fave hobbies without worrying about this stuff. And honestly the ending where Zoit's like "screw you I have a biological sex now but I'm still nonbinary" was one hell of a power move! (even if it was bizarre to have the show being so progressive towards the idea of gender nonconformity while still being all "everyone is always straight tho")
So yeah, I used to get really upset watching this episode as a lil closeted kid who'd experienced similar bullying, but it still opened my eyes to the possibilities of being myself and I'm forever grateful to it!
Still sucks that Zoit never got to be a returning character tho, they were awesome and I wish I could be so take-no-shits about bigotry!
except this show is fictional, and you are a real person and real people can't be neither gender. you aren't oppressed. you're offended people don't see u as nothing but your biological sex. what a weird thing to get upset about. feel free to be delusional but don't expect others to go along with it
@@MsDudette21 Actually, you can, because gender is a social construct and is largely irrelevant.
@@ravenfrancis1476 Ok John Money
@@sekaiyoru01 That's not what John Money believed, you've just fallen for transphobic propaganda.
I think male and female music can be distinquished between its relationship to power and sex. Women music has more details about the actual sex and from that we are supposed to infer that they are powerful. Man music has less details about sex but focuses more in the power this man must have to have all this sex. Like a male song my say "your girl is in my bed" and thats the end of the sexual content. Female songs would be like "Your man is clapping my cheeks". These are very similar but one is focused on the power dynamics of someone being somewhere under your orders, while the other is about sex happening but its like their intention or desire isn't even there.
That's an apt analysis
Zoike does look male why not make his appearance more gender neutral ex Lots of people thought Cera from Land Before Time was a guy
it seems that you missed the actual point which is that gendering things is really stupid. it wasn't a "product of it's time" in that sense. it was trying to break the mold.
Lego tried to sell gender neutrally but it just didn't work
Lego friends works because its shifts the focus from building ( Spatial awareness) to making up stories ( Emotional intelligence) and men/ womens minds work differently thats why trans people exist, lets say your afab but you have slightly more testosterone then the general female population
That starts to effect you youll form friend circles differently ( typically females Make friends by sharing secrets while males make friends through competition) and for some effects the way they see there own body
With that said Brands don't split their products from male to female for the fun of it they do it because it works
the reason that nerf guns didn't work isn't because girls play with nerf (there is a very small demographic) the problem is girls don't want to play with guns no matter how many stickers you put on them that was the difference between nerf and lego the same way they tried to feminize a beer brand but it didn't go anywhere because women don't want to drink beer
( Everything I said is *on average* which is the only thing that matters when talking about a generalized concept)
5:35 or so - if you can choose your gender, and you know your preference, why would you choose "gay?" Assume, for a moment, you're talking about your whole species having this option. If it's about "how you feel" and not "what you like," that...first off, doesn't make a lot of sense, because how do you "feel" male or female without it corresponding to your biology or your preferences? But let's go with that. If your whole species can pick its sex, why would you deliberately pick a sex that is the one you're sexually attracted to? It seems counterproductive.
But I have to hand it to this episode for doing what sci-fi does best: explore these kinds of questions by taking advantage of the ability to introduce alien (pun intended) qualities that make them stand out as something unavoidable.