LIGHT WARLOCKS ARE HERE! Draenei, Mag'har Warlocks ADDED In 10.1.5!
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In 10.1.5 we get Mag'har Orcs, Lightforged Draenei and Draenei warlocks amongst others!
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About a year ago Blizzard promised that they will remove all race-class restrictions and just like many of the recent patches 10.1.5 is continuing on this promise. We are getting warlocks for all the currently available races which is excellent news.
However some of the more problematic anti warlock races are getting warlocks which is really conflicting with the lore. We got Mag'har orcs which is essentially orcs before fel, we are getting draenei the biggest enemies of fel now wielding fel and previously we've known them as the man'ari. However most interestingly we are getting lightforged draenei warlocks which really is about as natural as shadow priests wielding the light. So how are we going to explain all these new race/class combos in the lore?wo
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No it doesn't.
WoW made a big song and dance about the Light having one path. Allowing Lightforged to use Fel contradicts that. The same could also be said of Void Elves, but they're already warlocks, so it's not protesting something that isn't in the game yet. This contradicts the "clash between the cosmic forces" narrative being pushed from Legion - Shadowlands if they can draw on each others' power.
Not to mention that would mean Illidan got riled up over nothing when Xe'ra tried to Lightforge him because he'd not only still be doing the same thing (his goal lined up with her prophecy), he'd have still been able to hold on to Fel magic.
The Mag'har are also a stretch, because Mag'har means "uncorrupted" so technically, by becoming Warlocks they cease to be Mag'har. The other conflicts are more cultural.
It does make sense. These are people that were stuck in space ships for thousands of years seeing their comrades getting wiped out by Fel magic. Plus, we saw that Alleria wasn't thrown out for using Void magic. There is nothing stopping them from using it and races are not monolithic entities devoid of individuality.
@@shabadabadabada5133 Good point. It does undermine, if not refute, the idea that the Army of the Light were fanatical or brainwashed.
@@snappycenter7863 priest order hall light forged demons all I'm saying.😆
@@syndrosedrakewing1185 I mean we now know that was a spy thanks to SL though. Dreadlords infiltrated EVERY faction.
I’m all for Dranaei Warlocks if they give us the red skin color for them as a bonus
Exiled man'ari would be cool.
@@Doronsmovies I will main Dranaei if that happens
And now you can become Archimonde
Yes and lightforge should not be a race that should be unlockable paladin questline skin for all races.
On that topic of "schools of magic changes your spiritual and physicals essence".
shadow priest should be removed form priest and shadowmancer should be a class > void elves should be replaced with high elves. And as a lighforged skin also void elf skin should be implemented as quest for shadowmnacers.
As you mentioned Warlocs should have similar treatment because they use fell.
I guess Arcane is easiest on mind and body.
Necro are deathknights.
Life = druids.
manipulation of Spirits and Elemetal = shaman.
Inner spirit = Monks
@@xshadowx32hd66 if we get the red skin, my Kil’jaeden RP will finally come to fruition 😂
Illidan seeing the Night Elf Warlocks be like "OH! So it's alright when THEY do it!"
I would not be suprised if DH's are more or less the reason this becomes a thing actually... One of the Illidari in the DH Legion story is just a Warlock with Metamorphosis. So it's not that surprising really. They are just Illidari with a panchant for magic over the other stuff. Hell give em DH customization and the same starting experiance, problem solved.
Illidan wasn't a warlock he was a sorcerer
@@laoch5658 It was a joke because he was messing with Fel Magics and was punished for it.
"seeing"?
I think it really depends to what extent you can customize your character but also your pets. If you can create demon pets that look "lightforged" like that one dreadlord I think that would be cool, as for Draenei and Orcs maybe they could add customization options to give them red/fel-pocked skin?
Lightforged Draenei: Did you just assume my class!? I identify as a warlock now. My pronoun is imp.
Warlocks are mostly kept to the sidelines of any society. Just because Draenei can become warlocks doesn’t mean their society accepts them 100%, the role playing here could be really interesting
I agree and that works for a lot of the races but the draenei just like the night elves are one of those that were super strict about never using that type of magic. At least until recently.
@@Doronsmovies for me, that just means role playing the character as a real outsider, deviant, or villain
And that is the ONLY way any of this works, if canonically the fel draenei/nelves/mag'har are rare and shunned. Those societies, remembering (somewhat recent!) history, wouldn't want warlocks among themselves, ever.
I mean no one really accepts warlocks. Hell being an orc warlock was kinda blasphemous with the burning blade being prominent and summoning demons under Orgrimmar. Hell I'd like to see Tauren warlocks now that they dabble in a bitnof everything
i agree with what you are saying but LIGHTFORGED Draenei are zealots, they would have burn their warlocks in a pyre lmao
I really wanna see the other races get Druid, Shaman and Demon Hunter classes. New Shape-shifting forms and totems are always fun.
Shaman is for sure next, I would say the Primalists is a buildup for that. DH is probably going to be slower a expand class with the next races probably being
Nightborne
Void Elf
Zandalari (Demoniac)
Maybe Draenie (Broken)
Shaman and druids def....Um ...Demon hunters i feel should still be the elves
@@JonpaulGee Zandalari Demoniacs are more like Demon Hunters than Warlocks, so I disagree with you completely. You should look them up
@@JonpaulGee there are already orc, Naga, panderen, and even murloc demon hunters in hearthstone and we did get the reveal of nzoth through hearthstone so maybe they’re building up to it?
Agreed!
I feel like there is an entire new writing team at blizzard that didn't even know what World of Warcraft was right before shadowlands. That, or they decided to burn all the lore
Thing is, lighforged using fel make more sense than lightforged shadow priest existing. Also it's being shown multiple times that every single magical force can and will corrupt (Xera trying to convert Illidan & the alternate draenor lightbound are pretty big exemple of that).
While the Light can corrupt, its not like it does a heelturn to start using(or even accepting) the power of fel.
The problem with Spriest is the spec in general, it is just a justification for undead, and now even velfs to be priests, and u need something for others. As each race have different approach to the classes, which the gameplay class design does not reflect. Draenei and LFD Spriests (and monks) are their soulpriests, who cares for souls of their dead. You even have a garrison follower like that. Another example of completely different are priests of Elune, which is Nelf priest, but the class gameplay do not reflect it.
You make a good point, LF Shadow Priests are a thing and the Void is in DIRECT opposition to the Light, so maybe them using fel is not so far fetched.
@@KbelikarLet's not forget the trolls and their loa. Shadow Priest trolls don’t really make a lot of sense either, especially if we're using "Shadow" to mean "Void". The loa all seem to be pretty Nature based with exception of Bwonsamdi, who is DEFINITELY in the cosmological sphere of Death, so if you really think about it, troll priests using the Light and Void make little sense at all.
The Priest, as a class, is definitely one of those things where the lore and the gameplay don't always seem to mesh, which usually leaves us players to make up our own sort of RP in order to make sense of things.
@@trishb1706 It's not just priest however, ever race have different approach to the class, human paladin, tauren Sunwaker, Belf Blood Knight or Draenei Vindicator aren't complety the same things. Just the priest class itself is the most streched as for now.
lets remember that undead mostly have priest because of a single spec(shadow) while they would basicly obliterate themselves if they used healing(except because of the retcons that not how it works) so if lore can allow a single spec it's ok lore wise
I think the new warlock races, and really all races eventually getting all classes, makes sense when you think about the influence that the player characters and their associated NPCs (in the case of the warlocks, the Council of the Black Harvest) would have on the cultures of those races. Imagine being a draenei, and you saw this human warlock do all the world saving that the player characters do between The Burning Crusade and Dragonflight (14 years in game lore). You'd probably think by that point "huh, warlocks aren't all bad", and some might want to be warlocks themselves. Obviously this logic is more applicable to races that have been exposed to the Heroes of Azeroth(TM) longer, but the moment they join the Alliance or the Horde they are exposed to a more open culture, so long-term exposure may not be necessary for a newly joined race to think "maybe this path is actually okay and my parents were wrong"
I'm going to assume the in lore tldr of the more problematic race/warlock combos will be a 'we'll let you prove yourself, for now...'
Also that in lore there will be astonishingly small numbers of said warlocks.
I have always loved the idea of making a Night Elf Warlock and a Draenei Warlock like they are characters who took a dark path instead of the traditional good boy adventurer path.
Bad to the bone!
the logic's just that anyone can be corrupted by demonic power. If the class combos were based on the ideals of their leaders and such, we wouldn't have most warlocks races to begin with. The weird thing about LF lock is that it probably hurts a lot to be one.
I think that rarity doesn't mean it doesn't/couldn't exist. As well, we have seen every magic being abused including the light. Granted, the LF Dranaei are the hardest sell, but I do think it can work if done right.
Night elves is even simpler..Highborne. The Highborne like the Shen'dralar reunited with the rest of their people and are notorious for using a demon to fuel their magic addiction (Shen'dralar specifically) so it is not at all out of the realm of possibility.
Yeah that makes sense.
would LOVE a Satyr skin option for nelf lock
@@hotlikesauce same, or a WoD fel orc look for orcs
About Draenei warlocks. How about Broken, exposed to the fel mist in outland and severed from the light by it? We could try roleplaying them using a toy from BC timewalking. Imo it sounds more awesome even than man'ari ^^
Same as shamans since bloody TBC
@@cristhianmlr Shamans don't have that struggling from falling completely into corruption kinda thing. Practising shamanism is much more safe than fel magic so it does not have this spice while RPing
Finally i can be the dreaded Fel Cow i knew i was meant to be
Fel skin of highmountain tauren NPC was nice.
You mention that the light invasion is less likely to occur but you forget that the crazy lightforged arw the ones from alternate draenor and theu didn't get to see Illidan and his feats. And since we're doing a round 2 of wow (bfa was vanilla 1.0, legion bc 2.0, shadowlands wotlk2.0, dragonflight is cata 2.0 and everything points to the next expansion being mop 2.0) WoD 2.0 is going to be about a lightforged invasion led by yrel
I also like the idea that now that the demons are no longer under legion control they're more cooperative
As a warlock lore expert…(back when I used to play so I’m rusty) all of these new additions to warlocks are lore capable, the best I can describe this situation is it’s possible not probable.
Night elf’s warlocks could easily be described as individuals who went to find the illidari and became to understand the fel and demons without the physical ability of demon hunters. Illidari aligned warlocks are not new.
Draenei and Lightforged Draenei are different, the warlocks among them are likely as your new lore stated new initiates to the craft, legion spies turned loyal after its defeat or do not forget the possible manari seeking his people for a version of redemption. Velen including the Lightforged has to leave a significant part of their people behind for risk of being caught, these were likely potential willing followers stranded on Argus like the faction we find there. You can be forcibly converted to demon hood and corruption but with the legions defeat, how many forced converts now stand to rejoin their people, possibly using the powers they have come to know for ten thousand plus years? Would Velen forsake his people who came to him cursed with demon hood because he forsook them last time?
When they anounced the warlock addition for every race i thought they might have added something like a dragón sorcerer completely unrelated with fel but with the warlock gameplay. It definitely is a big stretch but not as big as "realising fel can be used also with the light"
That would have made even less sense
Yeah it doesn't really make any sense. The whole cosmic chart thing is getting a little out of hand imo
I hope they make a red eredar skin colour for draenei, have them be defectors of the legion, seeking redemption
Would be cool if the Lightforged got the Light Reforged versions for their demons. The Mag'har getting the more primal/elemental variant. And the Draenei Locks just getting the Man'ari cosmetic options as "freed conscripts" as it were. No way all those that remained with Kil'jaeden and Archimonde were "informed consent" givers when they signed up, either buying the lies until it was too late, or just keeping their heads down and being complicit over time.
I think with the night elf. You also have to remember that some of the survivors out right turned their back on elune after what happened. So that I can see being a reason for night elf. The others I can't really think of anything at the moment. Maybe later 😂😅
Draenei warlocks can just be outside of draenei society. They can still be part of the Alliance, having nothing to do with the Exodar
Exactly ! They'll be part of the Alliance but won't be welcomed into Draeneï's society because they're Man'ari.
A few things:
Warlocks are not 'accepted' by most races. With the exception of the Forsaken and Blood Elves during the time of BC, essentially all warlocks were individuals operating in the shadows of society. There is no reason every race shouldn't be able to play as warlock, except maybe the point made about Mag'har Orcs, which brings me to my next point:
Are warlocks inherently tied to fel? Aside from those who completed the green fire challenge, I don't think their magic is necessarily fel-based. Much is void-based, and they certainly enslave fel-based demons, but as far as I'm aware, they're not constantly wielding fel magic like demon hunters are. Red fire can be arcane, elemental, or possibly fel. Shadow is void. The hallmark for warlocks is "dark magic", not "fel magic". They can use a variety of dark magics.
As such, Mah'har orcs could be fine as warlocks. To me, the only race that is questionable is LF Draenei. Even that is based on the assumption that light and void are incompatible just because they're opposites, which is disproven by discipline priests.
Here's how I see it:
Kul Tiran: Vrykul/Human hybrids who both use fel, so why not.
Pandaren: Pandaren seek knowledge and balance, so they would be able to control the corrupting urges of the fel on their minds and use it for good.
Zandalari: A bit rare, but they've used a lot of dark magics in the past, and have been around Horde Warlocks for two expansions now, so why not.
Mag'Har: I agree this is a bit of a stretch, however they have used dark magics as well in their past (void priests from the Shadowmoon Orcs). They've also been around for two expansions with other Orc Warlocks. Also, it was the Orcs drinking of Mannoroth's blood that turned their skin green, not the usage of fel magic. Also, not all Warlocks use fel magic, as affliction Warlocks use dark powers. So, it's a bit of a stretch, but I can see it work... plus, their 10% pet hp racial would be great for Warlocks.
Tauren/HMT: Grimtotems and Bloodtotems. Enough said.
Night Elf: OK. I actually don't have much of a problem with this, and here's why: Night Elves have been around Alliance Warlocks for decades at this point. They've seen corrupting influences of fel on people, but they've also seen people control it. Not only that, but they lost their home and potentially know that their deity, Elune literally sacr>ficed their people for essence to empower the Winter Queen's tree to keep Mr. Nipply in the Maw, but instead went to actually empower Mr. Nipply because Elune didn't actually do any investigating at all. All of that would make anyone dark, jaded, and ready to forsake their deity. So, partaking of Warlocks isn't that big of a stretch at all.
OK... now to the two that I believe are completely lore breaking: Draenei & LFD Warlocks. No other race has as much of a history with fighting against the Burning Legion than these two. For the Draenei, the Legion destroyed not only one, but two of their homes. The LFD has been literally locked in a 1000 year war with the Legion on Argus. They've also seen how corrupting the usage of fel is on the Draenei. There is literally no way that Blizz can paint this change that doesn't completely destroys the lore.
The maghar simply vowed to never be slaves to the demons like azeroth orcs were. If you want to get technical, they already partially partook in demon magic. The new dark portal to azeroth using warlock and dark magic to fuel it. Using guldan as a battery
Honestly if they wanted to do light warlocks all they really had to do was give us a light skin for warlock abilities and demons like the green fire skin, since we already have light demons so there’s plenty of space to work with that.
I think the supposed lore issue with Mag'har orc warlocks is something of a small lore detail that is being blown massively out of proportion. The entire 'fel magic turns orcs green' thing is sort of a myth, because the only origin we have for that is Gul'dan tempting the clan leaders with Mannoroth's blood. Which... is not the same as a warlock casting a few fel-fire spells (which, they can't even cast until they complete the green fire questline)
I think Gul'dan turned green because of his choice to drink Mannoroth's blood, which corrupted him, turned him green and gave him blood lust. The same as for the other OG horde leaders, who also drank the demon's blood. The orcs on Azeroth now are only green because of their ancestry and connection to those horde leaders. Because they are descendents of those who originally drank Mannoroth's blood, they are still 'corrupt' to this day.
Admittedly, you could use the same rationale to complain about Felorcs not being in the horde. In theory, a green skinned orc could use enough felmagic casually as a warlock to eventually go full fel-orc mode, with spikes and red skin.
if paladins are next, i will race change my blood elf into a night elf
Most of these races make sense, but the Maghar Orcs and Lightforged draenei are really going to have to get creative in order to be believable.
I agree that the Maghar orcs are going to be really hard to explain because of the whole "uncorrupted" thing but the Lightforged Draenei? Eh... That's going to be interesting to explain.
My explanation would be maybe someone got bitter with how the Light seems to be falling short on keeping that person's loved ones alive so then that LF Draenei is like, "Hey, that Illidan guy may be on to something..." So then they decide to start dabbling in the fel and trying to see if that will get the job done.
IDK, it's going to lead to some interesting explanations that may or may not make sense, but we should also keep in mind that warlocks, in lore, aren't just flowing out the ears. They've almost always been a small group of individuals with radical ideas that many in main stream society don't acknowledge or accept.
I mean, think about it: I seem to remember in Wow Classic that the only city that seemed to not hide their warlock trainers from prying eyes was the Undercity. Stormwind had a tavern with a secret room in it and I don't really remember where it was for Ironforge, but I don't remember it being super public. There were none in Darnassus, if I recall. Orgrimmar's trainers were in a place called "The Cleft of Shadow" (nuff said). And I don't remember if Thunderbluff had any warlock trainers, but if they did have any they would be in a dark cave that the Forsaken set up shop in. The Undercity seemed to be the only Classic city to be just open and out there with their warlocks because you could just be walking along and look over and be like, "Oh hey, there's a demonic summoning circle and a bunch of warlocks." And then you go about your day.
The point I'm trying to make is that aside from maybe the Forsaken, nobody seems to just parade their warlocks around, which tells me that being a warlock is not necessarily something that society is totally cool with but it's more of a personal choice of a few select individuals that went against the grain, so I can see that being the LF Draenei's way of being a warlock.
Still not sure about the Maghar Orcs though, because can you really still call them "Maghar" if they're using fel magic?
I think the simplest explanation for Mag'har Warlocks is just that they don't outright use fel magic. Overall, different magics can perform the same functions. To say that a Mag'har warlock enslaves demons and curses things with void magic wouldn't be a stretch. In fact, it might even be how all other player warlocks work- those spells use shadow graphics, not fel. Maybe their fire spells are elemental based instead of fel based. Who's to say?
The only issue there will be is when Mag'har warlocks complete the green fire challenge. That quest literally has you corrupting yourself with fel and then proceding to wield felfire spells. For any standard Mag'har warlock with red fire, I don't see an issue.
From both game and lore perspective, yes please! Everything for everyone. You are forgetting that an individual (in this case, my character) does not have to be límited by his origins, where he comes from, his race and what not, even in thid kind of restrictive fantasy world, if someone wants to be something, they will find a way. Example, one light forged warlock is a guy that got fed up by the whole light worshipping thing (and he's kind of bad using it) so he finds the whole warlock discipline and falls in love with it, the power is intoxicating and he's good at it. He doesn't care what anyone thinks or says about him, he's complete now, alliance, draenei, doesn matter who, everyone now is just an avenue for more power. Something like that, and yes you can have another character that uses fel for good, etc. I can also easily imagine an origin story for an undead paladin, you could even have some quest line involving Calia where you find you were in fact a paladin in life, and you help some people even when they hate you, proving that there is still good in you and you are worth of the light and blah blah. Same thing for nature and druids, its only a matter of will at this point.
100% agreed, player choice > lore at this point. cross faction guilds pretty much solidified any previous lore to be insignificant so why not just allow any race/class combo in DF.
No amount of interest or dedication to some non-standard practice would allow for something like a void elf or undead paladin. The magics these races are infused with are just incompatible with Light. And for warlocks, A Mag'har orc would turn green over time simply practicing fel magic. Fel radiation turns orcs green, that's just a fact of their biology. You can't be a warlock and stay a brown orc for long. Mag'har also means "uncorrupted," specifically in relation to fel magic. It's literally the reason they're a separate group of orcs to begin with. The idea that one would ever become a warlock and would still be allowed to call themselves Mag'har in any way whatsoever is utterly moronic.
Light, Death, Fel, etc... I choose Life BECAUSE it's the most sinister of forces and will vanquish all others!
the weird classes getting like light classes, hints some kind of fanatical light religion, draeneis and orcs getting forcefully converted.
I mean if you can be a body type 9 dwarf evoker, there are no boundaries to the insanity to come with class combinations. RIP lore and immersion.
Thank goodness 🙏 I have waited long enough for my Eradar lock.
when they do come out with the orc warlocks they should add fel red orcs dragon maw orcs skin and the skins from WoD with the warlocks skins and red Man'ari skins color
Draenei just be like : Know your enemy. They become warlocks so they can do experience better.
I still can't recover from the trauma of seen lightforged draenei shadow priests and void elves holy priests.
OGRES WHEN???
Sure! Since Draenei are getting warlock we deserve a quest to unlock eredar customization and reconcile them with their brothers. We deserve something cool for the Alliance to compensate the Kul Tirans and Mechanomes fiasco.
They may have retconned it but the record is clear that they are building up to Velen’s Prophecy as originally told in BC. Illidan will likely comeback imbued with the same Fel/Light that Sargeras was so well known for using to “cleanse the universe in fire”.
I used to feel exactly how you do with certain race/class combinations. I played a lot of Warcraft 3 so Night Elf mages and Orc Warlocks bothered me. I even took it further thinking even Draenei or Tauren DK’s were dumb because I thought any raised would kill them selves if cursed to undeath. Then I thought of the real world. Not all Americans own guns and some Women want to be coal miners for example. Stereotypes aren’t absolutes. At most they are majorities in a demographic.
Well.... maybe in the next expansion (or maybe patch?) the next Big Bad is the rise of the Shade of Xe'ra (that or some of the full on fanatics found enough of her to put her back together using the new Alchemical Recipe for Crazy Glue and maybe missed a few somewhat important bits) who after getting spanked by Illiadan is hell (fel?) bent on the Light dominating everything to find and punish him for not following her prophecy... and as we were the last ones to see him, she starts with invading Azaroth.
goodbye lore
@Hecker Bonker yep, I don’t understand the fume at all
Fun fact : draeneis were the first warlocks
@@mireiyu6623 eredar were the first warlocks, then a group of them broke off and called themselves draenei because they didn't like how they were turning into warlocks
@@Barsee23 yes that's what i meant.
And as a player perspective why not play classes that we want? For example i wanted long time human shaman.
I think every power is possible to wield with learnings and some pain.
@@mireiyu6623 it breaks the lore/story of the game and is important for races/classes to be unique, if they add such combinations there should be a good lore/story reason, for example kultiran/human shamans are actually tidecallers that worship the sea so it makes sense for them to be shamans which commune with water/the elements
I mean, getting Lightforged Warlocks sounds cool, but I wish they'd add the Man'ari/Eredar skin color to them, or maybe to the actual draenei.
Make a whole questline for it with a bunch of them either being exiled or without a purpose now after the events of Legion and have them reintregate back after like.. I dunno, having them repent, show remorse for what they've done and whatnot. Maybe with small cutscenes, the bronze dragonflight maybe helping them out to relive the horrors they've commited.
Think something like that would at least help explaining why it's a customization option now. :o
Either way, I just want to play a red spacegoat man. xD
Say what you want; regular Draenei warlocks with GotN might make them raid boss livelords in both PVP and PVE.
Can't wait for them to bring out Gnome DH the RP will be "this isn't even my final form" sharp sound of imp casting felball "aggro sound"
......the lightforged Warlock is part of Lothraxian's manipulations
well the orcs being turned green came from them directly drinking the blood of a power demon lord. they used warlock magic for a bit before turning the whole turning green
Nah, you got that wrong
@@octaviangeorge5455 in the rise of the horde they only started turning green after using the warlock magic to age their kids and were using it exclusively in all bits and fully went green after drinking Mannoroth's blood
@@zachbova9935 they went from green to red after mannoroths blood. That's actually a mision about that in wc3.
yes, but the also drank it originally on Dreanor and that when they first turned green
I quit caring if the story made sense back in Legion when blizz quit caring.
What if Lightforge Draenei have unique pets that look like Lothraxion.
The idea that the Light and Fel can't be used together doesn't make sense. We literally have Elune using the polar opposite of Light (void) for her shit.
Except the Lightforged, basically any Race should be able to be a Warlock. I guess technically Fel doesn't contradict Light, but the Lightforged in particular are supposed to be really into the Light. Then again, I have a Lightforged Death Knight, so whatever lmao. If I remember correctly, Arcane is the actual opposite of Fel?
lol at this point i just say get over it, it's clear blizz is finally removing all class/race restrictions. Honestly i don't care about why they are doing it and just happy i can make the combos i have wanted since the launch of TBC. I knew some people were gonna throw a fit when this happened lol
Think of the dry cleaning bill the alliance is going to have with all these new Lightforged trying to use fel.
I'm waiting for undead paladins/druids
Blood elf druids/shamans
I'm waiting for all the new druids bringing in new forms. Undead should become spiders for feral!!!!
The tauren does have a tribe of fel-users from the Legion expansion.
I've been dying to main a Highmountain Warlock after fighting the Feltotem in Legion. I'll be ticked if we finally get them and they don't give us Feltotem customization options.
Gives me a reason to main Tauren lol
They're not going to. Highmountain is one of the few races warlocks would make sense for among these new combos, but they're gonna just flip the switch without putting in any of the required work for the lore to fit. I guaranteed you they'll only make assets for new shaman/paladin/druid races because those are directly tied to basic class functions. Because they have to, not because it would improve the class.
But Feltotem horns, subjugated-then-lightforged demons, Man'ari skin tones, etc. Never happening. They can't even be bothered to finish the posterboy race for this expansion.
Always wanted to be a draenei warlock ever since i saw eredar warlocks. Idc about lore, im happy
I hope if they don't have red skin Draenei locks, on patch day, that they consider giving them a quest to unlock red skin.
Orc skin color changes due to the consumption of demon blood, not because they use fel.
I'm guessing that Hsmans are next, since they only need totems. Paladins and Druids will be the most difficult since they require a lot more new models
Let's see for shamans, on horde side you are missing undead and blood elves. We've seen a blood elf shamans at least once I believe back in BC? We have definitely seen a druid belf. Undead, give them the goblin justification, or if humans can be em so can undead. Humans, Kul tirans teach em. Night elves should've been harmonious with the elements too at some point as it can be classified to nature adjacent. Gnomes get goblin reasoning. Anything a night elf can be a worgen should also be able to be. All void elves should be able to be what blood elves are. Lightforged dranei should have been able to be shamans especially as they reclaimed their world and tried to reconnect with the elements. Mechgnomes goblin justification.
Pandaren Druid let’s go!
@Youyang Zhou genuinely, why did they not have that from the start?
i allways have wanted to play draenei warlock obviosly they need to add manari skins for then but my dream come tru my favorite race and class im so exited
I'd be fine with their current skin honestly. Archimonde was a warlock, just add some green eyes.
@@justinb7494 yeees green eyes i hope they add that
The only reason the orginal orcs are green is because they drank demon blood. You dont have to drink demon blood to be a warlock though :P
I thought that too, but I still think that it will be hard to justify an "uncorrupted" orc using fel, regardless of what changes their skin color.
MagHar would make good Demonology, imo. That pet health racial would be good use.
I miss the old days, where only certain races could be a certain class, no matter how many lore they add, some combos just make 0 sense
Idk about the lightforged but any other races seem reasonable, i mean this is an rpg game right? The light abandoned some draenei on Draenor and some turned to the elements, whos to say some didnt developed the "fight fire with fire" idea? Same goes for Night Elves, some could still feel abandoned by Elune and turned to darker ways to gain power.
Right? Even the lightforged can have a reasonable cause, like whom developed a set of ideals like the demon hunters.
We dont have to thing like races only follows their culture, their faces stories and ideals. Can't a person develop their own ideals?
Lightforge an Illidari who wants to return to their former comrades. Same old fel powers with the lightforging to ensure they're true.
@@Nightfallen. The problem is that Lightforged are already individuals, who chose their fate, they werent born like that, being, it's not a "cultural background" It's their life, their fate, their own choice. They were once normal draenei, they wanted this, they wanted to wage a war over the entire universe to cleanse the fel's corruption. And if they would have any doubt about that couse, the lightforging process would just kill them. No, there is no reason in this.
@@KbelikarThey may not have had any doubts at the time, but that doesn't mean they won't in the future. It's possible that grief and bitterness later on could make a LF Draenei question the Light and wonder if the Fel could be better or could actually be used for good.
@@trishb1706 I am still not gonna buy to, Draenei and LFD are my favourite race, the race I have fallen in love with, wouldn't do it. I have wrote a whole essay about what I think about this under this video directly, you can read that, agree or disagree, I just don't want to write it whole again.
Honestly, giving how DH become DH, power imbuing tattoos and taking in the essence of a demon, I'd say a Light version of those guys with the lightforged draenei makes a lot more sense then a lightforge summoning demons.
not as much as "New lore" nor contradictory, but more of an philosophy some of the characters have, which is made clear throughout the questline introducing the new races to the use of Warlock magic. And technically, we have seen Fel work alongside Light, through our own factions, take the human and bloodelven societies as an example, they both have a culture where there are warlocks and paladins, and that does mean it is technically working in tandem with one another. There is also the entire fact that Fel can damage fel and light can damage light. Both powers are grey areas, they are neither good nor bad. But their perceptions are painted by those who wields it.
Tandem among different individuals and orders, not the same culture.
PErsonally, I don;t like it, but if they are going to continue forging ahead with the Ancient Ones lore from Shadowlands. It feels like each of the Pantheons will be composed of a "God" who is a combination of that Pantheons force, and one other Force. Think Winter Queen being both Death & Life, for example, plus one Pure one. This would imply we are going to see a Pantheon linked to the Light, one of who's member's will be in part Fel. Which implies their may actually be a form of Fel Light. Thjis is just specualtion though, looking at the werid direction that the lore appears to be going iun, and I'm not really a fan of the Shadowlands lore.
I kinda wish they would stop muddling things up so much as everything being this souless grey goo, isn't really appealing, but they certainly aren't going to revurse these decisions. One much simpler explination is that anyone playing a wierd Race/Class combo is just a one of wierdo. Just ignore the 40,000 other freak wierdo's running about with him...
Okay, waiting void elves and nightborn as demon hunters.
I don't think Blizzard care about Lore anymore. They'll do anything to try to get some new subscribers.
I believe a warlock of light is called a priest, but then again, a shadow priest is a thing so it's just technicality at this point.
I personally don't think LF Draenei need warlock class, If you want to play lock, then you can play normal draenei, bcs somehow it can make sense, not like LF.
Corruption spreads easily on Azeroth. The best explanation
I don't really care about much the race / class lore and find it stupid the class locks like human can't be shaman.
We are the champions of Azeroth so why not take all classes we want as a player perspective.
And oh god thank you blizz Draenei warlocks waited for that so long and it happened, sexy hooved demons assemble!!!.
I always wanted draenei warlocks even though it doesnt really work with the established lore ... but draenei are my favorite race in the entire game xD
I really want forsaken paladins, with a visual change that makes the shadow paladins
Maybe as void unites with elemental to create shadowflame , so does fel unite with light to give us something else new? Think about it!
If we get lightforged demon pets then yes for lightforged Draenei. And if we get red normal draenei if they become locks, then yes.
Just loc abilities rehashed with the colors of the light.. we’ve seen the light work well with dreadlords so why couldn’t the light convert other demons?!
It makes sense if we get demon customisation. Like the glyphs that change the looks of the priests' summon. Only built into the warlock instead.
Doesn't matter if they make sense. Draenei Warlocks let's go
World of Warlocks...they're jumping the shard with this one.
I don't really see why anyone is surprised, RE: Lighforged Draenei...... We've had Undead Monks in the game since Pandaria!
Lightforged Dreanei Warlock? 😮where is my void elf paladin? 😁
wow is just some cracked fanfiction now
The only difference with maghar is they did not -consume- the demon blood. Thr maghar are perfectly capable of wanting to join their Azeroth kin in becoming locks after seeing it firsthand. They were hunted by extreme light followers, but can still be priests, right?
i really cant wait to see, later on, orc paladins and night elf shaman
6 advertisments during the video only to heard (tl;dr) - the only explanation is the defeat of the Legion.
Thanks, I kinda knew that before watching it
Its easy to forget that with all these races there exist individuals, with individual motives, principles, and personalities.
Just because the majority of a race or their culture is a certain way does not mean that every individual is that way.
So why wouldnt there be some Lightforged guy that wants to try out fel after seeing other people do it?
Exactly! In the game there may be a lot of improbable class/race combos because of the players, but in lore, some of these combinations could be very, very rare. As you say, individuals are not always representative of their race and there is such a thing as "free will".
Lightforged warlocks..? Yeah no that's just messed up lol
Not all warlocks use Fel. This has been in the lore extensively.
A big part of me is not surprised regarding nelf becoming a Warlock class.
With Highborne being exiled, who's to say that some went a different path than heading Silvermoon. Many would try to find their new source of power, which the strongest is fel and void, as they experienced. Same with Dire Maul/Eldre'thalas, I would expect many of them to become hungry for void power after consuming Immol'thar for so long. With Illidari/Demon hunters being basically 'warlocks in warrior form', which I never really understood how and why a mage 'lost their powers' when fel is basically corrupted arcane. They still use arcane based powers, runes on their bodies, mana crystals... But yet warlocks are still capable?
To me, in RP... DH are very much capable of being '"warlocks", if they were mages beforehand.
But the Lightforged... Nuh, that doesn't make a lot of sense... BUT there is red/charcoal skin coming for Draenei in the next patch, so...
nelf lock aka satyrs ingame since vanilla in druid start zone
lightforged and mag orc warlocks just don't make sense, it's bad enough lightforged priests can be shadow spec and void elves can be holy priests, lol the other races you could at least headcanon a pass on them. but those two races solidly shouldn't be able to become warlocks.