Thank you! I agree the TSi3 sits closed, i thought i was crazy. Can’t keep it from going left with the most flat/open/toe weight settings. Any suggestions on a more fade biased fairway?
Not wanting to be rude Michael but you have to pull this video and start over. You commented on face angle appearing closed, closed the face more by adding loft NOT reducing it and then said it looked better. Then you left in a terrible shot on the TSi2 numbers which skewed the results. To me this is a common theme among some testers where they "believe" the "3" series are the "Pro" models so they just have to like it better even though the "2" series gets way more play on every tour when it comes to Fairway Woods. In your case your dispersion was way worse with the TSi3 and the TSi2 was a much better fit.
Agreed. As someone that is picky about face angle and how that can inspire confidence and good delivery, you really should give this one another crack with the correct "C1" setting.
He's not responded to the numerous comments and upvotes talking about it. Either he's embarrassed about the mistake or he already has a bias against these fairway woods and was never going to like them anyway.
I have always loved the look and sound of their woods. However, I love the look and sound of my Cobra King F7 3/4 wood. When my swing gets steep, I also think those rails help me. When I am swing well, I hit it very well, so best of both worlds. However, I am not carrying 270+ off the deck. That is some HEAT!!!
Man, still just love your swing. I love my instructor but I would think having lessons from someone my height would help me iron out my swing tempo issues. My hands, shoulders, and feet are probably bigger, but swing dynamics are a pleasure to watch. I hope you get to do more course vlogs. I hope your Wife and family are well.
Reminds me of a fitter who just guesses on what should work without analyzing the data and making adjustments where / when needed. Michael, you should look at TXG and get some hints on what fitting looks like.
I can’t find this answer anywhere! Does the TSI3 18’ come in the smaller 135cc head? I know that the TSI2 does but I can’t find the TSI 3 5 wood specs anywhere
@@MichaelNewtonGolf So the TSI3 3 wood is 175cc , I’m looking to try and get the TSI3 5 wood but can’t find if it’s 135cc or not. I know the TSI2 5 wood is 135cc but I would really like to get the TSI3 to have the adjustability. I prefer the smaller 5 wood 135cc head but haven’t been able to find if the TSI3 comes with the 135cc. Thank you for getting back 🙌🏾
@@MichaelNewtonGolf No just wondering if the TSI3 18* is 135cc? I know that the TSI2 18* is 135cc but I can’t find the size of the TSI3 head anywhere. Thank you
@@MichaelNewtonGolfdoesn’t increasing loft also have the effect of closing the face? You nailed a couple in A1 with the TSi2 as well so not sure why you increased the loft and then on video didn’t hit the TSi3 quite as far?
@@MichaelNewtonGolf lie has very little effect on launch direction on woods since the loft is low. Wrong lie on a pw different story. Face angle has more effect on woods
I love the look of these clubs! The TSi3 is definitely on the list. Will take a lot to knock My Cobra SpeedZone out of the bag though! The Cobra's rails make it tough to beat out of the turf, especially on less than perfect lies. I do like the look of the TSi much more though. Thanks for the review!
Boy they did a really nice job designing these clubs ,, really nice looking, Mike I looked up the price on these clubs and the price is up there !! But I believe tietelist makes a great product!! Thanks awesome job!!!!
These smash factors are ridiculous. This is the 2nd review where I've seen that the TSi/3 is more naturally hooky than the TSi/2 which is very interesting. TSi/2 seems to be the better head and with 1.48-1.49 smash factors is pretty amazing. I do think one of the reasons that they appear to sit a little closed is that many Pros set these 3woods up to be their drawing tee club
Can we talk about 317 off the deck????? 3 woods these days are honestly too hot/long. I go from driver right to a 5w... I'm only hitting my driver 280-300 and I just don't need my next club to be 10 yards shorter (or even just as long...).
Unreal, Mike I have seen your reviews on certain drivers and your carry with these 2 off the deck was comparable with some lady godivas........they are beasts...Great review
You lifted your head Michael! Just kidding. I enjoy your honest reviews. How a club face sits at address is very important and I like a slightly open face.
Agreed. I've used both trackman and gc quad & trackman always has "boosted" or more favorable numbers that don't seem realistic per the math used to calculate
Could never hit them returned them for the new Mavrik hybrid line , WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE! I've never hit anything so good it's almost like cheating, picked up 2 x Mavrik hybrids new and my new Mavrik driver came today. I play t 300 irons and 3 tour vokeys their incredible but that's about it I cannot hit their woods or hybrids, they just don't work for me, their impossible to hit off the deck I don't know what it is, different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Meh, Outside, Trackman is more accurate for carry, Quad is better anywhere for CHS and spin. They each have thier quirks that you have to take into account.
@@TrevorDandy. you need about 112 club head speed with a 1.45 smash to get a 274 carry on a 3 wood. 105 club head speed on a driver doesnt even get you more than 270 yards with perfect launch and spin conditions
@@habs7646 It's not worth arguing about. Trackman has never been the better choice for club speed. But outside, it can track the ball right to the ground if it has line of sight, so generally Trackman carry is bang on outside. If it can't see the ball land, it can make the same algorithm mistakes that Quad can. Then - is it normalized or not? If it's not, was it just down wind? All I'm getting at is that Quad isn't some magic bullet for accuracy. You don't see Dustin Johnson standing on the range, dealing in his distances saying "gee...I wish I had a GC Quad". And he's pretty good at hitting his numbers if I recall.
Every golfer on RUclips right now Hits the tsi2 straight as fuck: “Ah well I quite like the look of the tsi3 though. Yeah the 3 looks better. I’m going to go with the 3.... yeah the 3 is definitely for me”
They think they have to live to some expectation because the 3 is considered cooler and more tour like. I've realized they love to think they're too good for certain designations.
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You crushed those shots. I don’t know what there is to dislike about those results. Thank you for describing the sound.
"C4" setting gives you more closed face angle at address. So, squaring the club face at impact will give you more loft.
You should have tried "C1" for Lower loft and flat.....
Hey..... "C4" setting is ADDED LOFT and Flat.
I bet you’ve memorized the chart, I know I have!
Thank you! I agree the TSi3 sits closed, i thought i was crazy. Can’t keep it from going left with the most flat/open/toe weight settings. Any suggestions on a more fade biased fairway?
Not wanting to be rude Michael but you have to pull this video and start over. You commented on face angle appearing closed, closed the face more by adding loft NOT reducing it and then said it looked better. Then you left in a terrible shot on the TSi2 numbers which skewed the results. To me this is a common theme among some testers where they "believe" the "3" series are the "Pro" models so they just have to like it better even though the "2" series gets way more play on every tour when it comes to Fairway Woods. In your case your dispersion was way worse with the TSi3 and the TSi2 was a much better fit.
Agreed. As someone that is picky about face angle and how that can inspire confidence and good delivery, you really should give this one another crack with the correct "C1" setting.
Totally agree.
Those adjustments on the drivers/3-woods are the equivalent of Kim K’s ass, inflated and fake.
@@linkbelt111 no, they actually change things believe it or not.
He's not responded to the numerous comments and upvotes talking about it. Either he's embarrassed about the mistake or he already has a bias against these fairway woods and was never going to like them anyway.
I have always loved the look and sound of their woods. However, I love the look and sound of my Cobra King F7 3/4 wood. When my swing gets steep, I also think those rails help me. When I am swing well, I hit it very well, so best of both worlds. However, I am not carrying 270+ off the deck. That is some HEAT!!!
When your Channel's notification pops up. I stop to watch. Great info!+
Man, still just love your swing. I love my instructor but I would think having lessons from someone my height would help me iron out my swing tempo issues. My hands, shoulders, and feet are probably bigger, but swing dynamics are a pleasure to watch. I hope you get to do more course vlogs. I hope your Wife and family are well.
Titleist TS2 is the best fairway wood I’ve owned, looking forward to testing TSi2!
It's pretty amazing.
Try C1 setting if you want less loft and an open face Michael! ;-)
Reminds me of a fitter who just guesses on what should work without analyzing the data and making adjustments where / when needed. Michael, you should look at TXG and get some hints on what fitting looks like.
Yea Mike it's true C1 shoulda been your setting you wanted.
Google Titleist surefit performance chart & you'll see the graph
I can’t find this answer anywhere! Does the TSI3 18’ come in the smaller 135cc head? I know that the TSI2 does but I can’t find the TSI 3 5 wood specs anywhere
When you say smaller do you mean smaller than a standard 5 wood head size?
@@MichaelNewtonGolf So the TSI3 3 wood is 175cc , I’m looking to try and get the TSI3 5 wood but can’t find if it’s 135cc or not. I know the TSI2 5 wood is 135cc but I would really like to get the TSI3 to have the adjustability. I prefer the smaller 5 wood 135cc head but haven’t been able to find if the TSI3 comes with the 135cc. Thank you for getting back 🙌🏾
@@MichaelNewtonGolf No just wondering if the TSI3 18* is 135cc? I know that the TSI2 18* is 135cc but I can’t find the size of the TSI3 head anywhere. Thank you
Played Titleist 3 woods for many years. Happy with TS2 but need to check these out.
C4 is ‘closed’ not open that’s why you pulled it with TSi3, you hit your best shots with TSi2 in A1 👍
Why is C4 closed?
@@MichaelNewtonGolfdoesn’t increasing loft also have the effect of closing the face? You nailed a couple in A1 with the TSi2 as well so not sure why you increased the loft and then on video didn’t hit the TSi3 quite as far?
@@MichaelNewtonGolf becaude you add loft on c4 +0,75 so if you sit the club on the grounds the face will be pointing left
But don’t forget it flattens lie....
@@MichaelNewtonGolf lie has very little effect on launch direction on woods since the loft is low. Wrong lie on a pw different story. Face angle has more effect on woods
I love the look of these clubs! The TSi3 is definitely on the list. Will take a lot to knock My Cobra SpeedZone out of the bag though!
The Cobra's rails make it tough to beat out of the turf, especially on less than perfect lies. I do like the look of the TSi much more though.
Thanks for the review!
Boy they did a really nice job designing these clubs ,, really nice looking, Mike I looked up the price on these clubs and the price is up there !! But I believe tietelist makes a great product!! Thanks awesome job!!!!
B1 or C1 would of been flatter and less toed in. C4 is closed in a bit
These smash factors are ridiculous. This is the 2nd review where I've seen that the TSi/3 is more naturally hooky than the TSi/2 which is very interesting. TSi/2 seems to be the better head and with 1.48-1.49 smash factors is pretty amazing. I do think one of the reasons that they appear to sit a little closed is that many Pros set these 3woods up to be their drawing tee club
I agree with this i recently picked a tsi3 3 wood up because it got rid of my slides right miss, the tsi2 did not change the miss.
Can we talk about 317 off the deck????? 3 woods these days are honestly too hot/long. I go from driver right to a 5w... I'm only hitting my driver 280-300 and I just don't need my next club to be 10 yards shorter (or even just as long...).
Unreal, Mike I have seen your reviews on certain drivers and your carry with these 2 off the deck was comparable with some lady godivas........they are beasts...Great review
TSi2 in the bag, MN!
You lifted your head Michael! Just kidding. I enjoy your honest reviews. How a club face sits at address is very important and I like a slightly open face.
Must have some strange settings on that track man getting that distance and run from that ball speed and launch angle. Same with the driver video.
Agreed. I've used both trackman and gc quad & trackman always has "boosted" or more favorable numbers that don't seem realistic per the math used to calculate
Could never hit them returned them for the new Mavrik hybrid line , WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE! I've never hit anything so good it's almost like cheating, picked up 2 x Mavrik hybrids new and my new Mavrik driver came today. I play t 300 irons and 3 tour vokeys their incredible but that's about it I cannot hit their woods or hybrids, they just don't work for me, their impossible to hit off the deck I don't know what it is, different strokes for different folks I suppose.
C1 is flater..for fade
317 yards - and fully happy...... 😳
i think the 2 sites wide open
It definitely looks closed. Probably angle 📐 of shaft into head
so nice
there is NO WAY any of these new titleist fairways sit closed. They both look about 1.5* open atleast!!
Must be my eyes 👀
@@MichaelNewtonGolf hahah it must be or im crazy
Wow, 280 yard carry disappoints you in a 3 wood. Certainly makes you wonder.
Well said! What's not to like about that 🤷♂️
274 carry with 105 club head speed and 157 mph ball speed is impossible on a 3 wood.. you need a gc quad
Meh, Outside, Trackman is more accurate for carry, Quad is better anywhere for CHS and spin. They each have thier quirks that you have to take into account.
@@TrevorDandy. you need about 112 club head speed with a 1.45 smash to get a 274 carry on a 3 wood. 105 club head speed on a driver doesnt even get you more than 270 yards with perfect launch and spin conditions
@@habs7646 It's not worth arguing about. Trackman has never been the better choice for club speed. But outside, it can track the ball right to the ground if it has line of sight, so generally Trackman carry is bang on outside. If it can't see the ball land, it can make the same algorithm mistakes that Quad can. Then - is it normalized or not? If it's not, was it just down wind? All I'm getting at is that Quad isn't some magic bullet for accuracy. You don't see Dustin Johnson standing on the range, dealing in his distances saying "gee...I wish I had a GC Quad". And he's pretty good at hitting his numbers if I recall.
Every golfer on RUclips right now Hits the tsi2 straight as fuck: “Ah well I quite like the look of the tsi3 though. Yeah the 3 looks better. I’m going to go with the 3.... yeah the 3 is definitely for me”
They think they have to live to some expectation because the 3 is considered cooler and more tour like. I've realized they love to think they're too good for certain designations.
100%
No gloves? Impressive
Ya that's terrible. Hit first 3 shots dead straight and a mile. I'd hate it too. Haha
C4 is not ...this gona make u draw
Click bait. He actually likes it. Move on
Eh?
Smash factor incredibly high....says a lot about that hot face
shocking