Interesting that the new F91 Jegan Beam Rifles use the MK II's Beam Rifle E-Pacs. Wonder why they switched? Maybe the CCA Jegans (and I guess Unicorn's Jegans) E-Pac design was prone to getting accidently knocked out it's socket when the Beam Rifle accidently collided with debris?
well, the main reason actually to better combat mobile suit with thicker armor and sustain more rapid fire without overheating. the usage of new energy mag just because its has more energy than just usual slim mag.
Logistics. The Federation had like several different E-PAC designs by the end of the UC 100s, and that is expensive and complicated to maintain during peacetime. So they likely adopted a single E-PAC to simplify supply.
Oh, the Jegan. One of the Federation's best and long lasting grunt suits. Too bad this was its fate, by being obsolete in front of the Crossbone Vanguard. The Federation should've had it retired earlier, so the Jegan wouldn't have had such a humiliating legacy.
actually, they were mostly retired from service in gundam f91 since EFF already find suitable replacement like G Canon and Heavy Gun. but because a long last peace, the program to replace old jegan takes back a seat for a while, resulting jegan still active in service in some place.
It was effectively retired. But just like in real life, when they retire equipment or vehicles for a military the transition isn't always instant. They'll usually have the older stuff serve in low priority and rear echelon positions. The Frontier Colonies were not a priority posting and consequently had lots of older equipment like Jegans. They aren't giving an M4 carbine to a supply depot guar in the middle of nowhere USA, they're giving him an M16A2. I'd also say the Jegans legacy isn't really humiliating. I'd argue that serving for 3 decades in a timeline where other mobile suits have become obsolete barely within a year of their initial production because of arms races is pretty impressive.
@@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit That explains why most Federation grunts that appear in F91 are Jegan types.So I'm guessing because Frontier side colonies are new,they were not a priority to have Heavyguns or G Cannons?The movie really mislead me into thinking that the Jegan was still the main machine.Though,even the Heavygun and G Cannon were no match for the crossbones vanguards new suits as they themselves were already a few years old.It wasn't until mobile suits like the Jamesgun or Javelin came along that the Feddies actually started fighting back on a larger scale.
I always feel bad for the Jegans in F91 they were completely outclassed by the cutting-edge suits of the Crossbone Vanguard, it's like WW2 Shermans going up against Leopard 1s or T-55s
Idk about you but have you ever seen the stark jegan variants? They were insane. I think they would hold their own against the crossbone vanguard but honestly f91 has always been separate from the U.C. in my mind.
@@SquidwradThomas Are you joking? F91 sets up the entire stage of late UC, which includes crossbone gundam, victory gundam, g-savior, and everything taking place after it. It's more UC than most series just by the continuity between past works and it alone.
Man, I feel sorry for whoever had a birthday in 0:06 scene, they have a happiest day in their life with all their friends were celebrating it and got older, only to die by the Jegan and builiding rubbles afterwards😢😢😢
@@GrandAdmiralBatuKhanthere’s a good chance that the Jegan was literally thrown or blasted into that roof. It has damage and its shield (the toughest thing a Jegan can have) was missing
well the fed had no need to replace them and after the one year war up to char counter attack the eff would lost so much money/ human life they would been drain.
@@chrishill3536the biggest drain of money started when Gato nuked 80% of the EF's navy and mobile suit corp with the costly Gundam development project, the resources and money into the titans since everyone who joins gets double promotion thus more pay. Then all that budget thrown into the titans R&D especially with the hazels and other limited production prototypes The Earth federation was already dying by 90s and few saw the writing on the wall
jegan a type actually a giid mobile suit. the performance are superrior than any grunts unit deployed in hathaway flash era including messer. but yeah, since no large scale conflict happen. jegan still in service in area where EFF didnt expect there is a problem could happen
@@ilhamshobri461 What do you mean Messer is already old when the time Jegan A type beginning to deploy. Jegan A-Type deploy in 0089 during Char Counter Attack, 16 Year before Messer first deployed in Hathaway flash. Messer probably not even start a development when Jegan A-Type start to deploy. Hell, they might not even start designing it at all.
I always wondered, if they could get the same performance from a smaller reactor, wouldn’t they be able to get even greater performance out of a similar sized reactor with the newer tech? Jegan coping
In universe explanation is that the trend of MS development was to go smaller for increased mobility and ease of logistics. Real life explanation is that the Japanese economy was in a slump, and the executives had mandated to the production team to cut down costs on the toy side of things. So they made the in-universe MS smaller so that IRL they could make the models smaller and cheaper while maintaining the existing scaling and justifying less toy for the same price tag.
Love how during the entire Crossbone vanguard attack the heavyguns were completely hard carrying the jegans 😅 to the point where only the heavyguns can damage things tho they still couldn't do much but but kill 1 pilot and shoot a leg 😅 the most damage it still did was when the g-cannons falling ammo killed that one mother
Even though this video is titled "RGM-89R Jegan A Type",it contains footage from other Jegans as well.Though you cant say that it had all of the footage of the Jegans since there are some scenes missing.
Frontier Colonies weren’t the main concern of the Feddies, shame the Jaegan was basically obsolete due to it’s age & official retirement, and now they get massacred by the Crossbone Vanguard!
This is why I love UC, UC shows how horrible is a war is from soldier to civilian prospective not like the other shiny versions so goofy or cheesy lmao
Minovsky Particles density is blocking all communications in the area. Opening the hatch is a more convenient way to communicate with each other compared to using a wire link.
I'd imagine being thrown to the ground would shake you up pretty bad, poor bastard was probably trying to get out of his suit asap before it blew and was disoriented
You'd think after all those wars the Federation would train their pilots how to conduct themselves in a high population area like a colony. I feel like every entry in the UC has to show a bunch of Federation grunts bumbling around and getting their civilians killed. I get that it's the point, the Federation can't do their job, but does every entry have to show it?
It’s easily writer bias. They could’ve shown the destruction caused by the Crossbone Vanguard’s invasion but for some reason they just don’t. It’s ok to do it to the Federation because they’re portrayed as the “good guys” and they want the “good guys” to look bad so that the writers look smart and complex. It’s a very tired UC trope and one of the reasons I can’t really stand to watch Gundam anymore. Everyone knows how evil the Federation is, so there isn’t any point in always portraying their pilots as incompetent. The writers just want to boil down the war themes to “Hey the antagonists are actually the good guys because the protagonist did something bad.”
@@big3201 Yeah the Zeon atrocity washing really ruins a lot of Gundam stuff for me. I feel like this is a pretty predictable byproduct of a country that views itself as the victim of WW2 even though they were an aggressive imperialist power that committed some of the most heinous war crimes of the 20th century.
Another factor is these colonies were out of the way posting. EFFs were supposed to replace all their Jegan but they were still here in great number means very low priority in equipment and personnel. When we actually saw Main Fed fleets fought in Victory, we saw their pilots in older machines gave a way better fight
I like how that one Jegan pilot didn't synchronize with the colony's rotation and so he slammed into the bridge.
It’s the little details that have the best effect
When?
@@thinking40500:22
Lol it's actually cause he got kicked by one of the crossbone ms in the actual movie
Interesting that the new F91 Jegan Beam Rifles use the MK II's Beam Rifle E-Pacs. Wonder why they switched? Maybe the CCA Jegans (and I guess Unicorn's Jegans) E-Pac design was prone to getting accidently knocked out it's socket when the Beam Rifle accidently collided with debris?
well, the main reason actually to better combat mobile suit with thicker armor and sustain more rapid fire without overheating. the usage of new energy mag just because its has more energy than just usual slim mag.
It's not exactly the mk2s beam rifle but it dose bear striking similarities
@spartana1116 not the beam rifle itself, the "e-pacs" (Magazines) are what I'm referring too
@@Zaffr3 yeah, also noticed that some look like modified geara doga beam machine guns
Logistics. The Federation had like several different E-PAC designs by the end of the UC 100s, and that is expensive and complicated to maintain during peacetime. So they likely adopted a single E-PAC to simplify supply.
Oh, the Jegan. One of the Federation's best and long lasting grunt suits. Too bad this was its fate, by being obsolete in front of the Crossbone Vanguard. The Federation should've had it retired earlier, so the Jegan wouldn't have had such a humiliating legacy.
actually, they were mostly retired from service in gundam f91 since EFF already find suitable replacement like G Canon and Heavy Gun. but because a long last peace, the program to replace old jegan takes back a seat for a while, resulting jegan still active in service in some place.
It was effectively retired. But just like in real life, when they retire equipment or vehicles for a military the transition isn't always instant.
They'll usually have the older stuff serve in low priority and rear echelon positions. The Frontier Colonies were not a priority posting and consequently had lots of older equipment like Jegans.
They aren't giving an M4 carbine to a supply depot guar in the middle of nowhere USA, they're giving him an M16A2.
I'd also say the Jegans legacy isn't really humiliating. I'd argue that serving for 3 decades in a timeline where other mobile suits have become obsolete barely within a year of their initial production because of arms races is pretty impressive.
@@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suityeah.
@@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit
That explains why most Federation grunts that appear in F91 are Jegan types.So I'm guessing because Frontier side colonies are new,they were not a priority to have Heavyguns or G Cannons?The movie really mislead me into thinking that the Jegan was still the main machine.Though,even the Heavygun and G Cannon were no match for the crossbones vanguards new suits as they themselves were already a few years old.It wasn't until mobile suits like the Jamesgun or Javelin came along that the Feddies actually started fighting back on a larger scale.
What happened to the Jesta?
I always feel bad for the Jegans in F91 they were completely outclassed by the cutting-edge suits of the Crossbone Vanguard, it's like WW2 Shermans going up against Leopard 1s or T-55s
Idk about you but have you ever seen the stark jegan variants? They were insane. I think they would hold their own against the crossbone vanguard but honestly f91 has always been separate from the U.C. in my mind.
@@SquidwradThomas Are you joking? F91 sets up the entire stage of late UC, which includes crossbone gundam, victory gundam, g-savior, and everything taking place after it. It's more UC than most series just by the continuity between past works and it alone.
Man, I feel sorry for whoever had a birthday in 0:06 scene, they have a happiest day in their life with all their friends were celebrating it and got older, only to die by the Jegan and builiding rubbles afterwards😢😢😢
Typical Feddie incompetency leading to unnecessary civilian casualties.
War is cruel
@@GrandAdmiralBatuKhanthere’s a good chance that the Jegan was literally thrown or blasted into that roof. It has damage and its shield (the toughest thing a Jegan can have) was missing
@@ivantsang2156 War is Hell. That sounds better.
The guy in green resembles Amuro Ray. Seems like Mr. lookalike got away.
A good mobile suit that was used for too long.
well the fed had no need to replace them and after the one year war up to char counter attack the eff would lost so much money/ human life they would been drain.
That and the EF was in relative peace so they got complacent and felt no need to make a replacement suit
@@chrishill3536the biggest drain of money started when Gato nuked 80% of the EF's navy and mobile suit corp with the costly Gundam development project, the resources and money into the titans since everyone who joins gets double promotion thus more pay. Then all that budget thrown into the titans R&D especially with the hazels and other limited production prototypes
The Earth federation was already dying by 90s and few saw the writing on the wall
@@spartana1116 they did, but not on a large scale
jegan a type actually a giid mobile suit. the performance are superrior than any grunts unit deployed in hathaway flash era including messer. but yeah, since no large scale conflict happen. jegan still in service in area where EFF didnt expect there is a problem could happen
Messer>>>Karl Gustav>Jegan
@@FulcroxF90:"allow me tp demonstrate the power of packbacks."
*speedbiltz the three*
@@Fulcrox you forgot the part where Messer is already old where Jegan A Type beginning to deploy LMAO
@@ilhamshobri461 timeline is a mess
@@ilhamshobri461 What do you mean Messer is already old when the time Jegan A type beginning to deploy. Jegan A-Type deploy in 0089 during Char Counter Attack, 16 Year before Messer first deployed in Hathaway flash. Messer probably not even start a development when Jegan A-Type start to deploy. Hell, they might not even start designing it at all.
I always wondered, if they could get the same performance from a smaller reactor, wouldn’t they be able to get even greater performance out of a similar sized reactor with the newer tech?
Jegan coping
Blame federation for not actually upgrading all their suits to the next generation.
@@Kira22558 something something more expensive in and out of universe
Why they don't add TWO smaller reactor in jegan and give them literal VSBR and beam shields
massive trolling
In universe explanation is that the trend of MS development was to go smaller for increased mobility and ease of logistics.
Real life explanation is that the Japanese economy was in a slump, and the executives had mandated to the production team to cut down costs on the toy side of things. So they made the in-universe MS smaller so that IRL they could make the models smaller and cheaper while maintaining the existing scaling and justifying less toy for the same price tag.
［ジェガンR型］
地球連邦軍の主力量産型MS。
ジェガンの近代化改修機でスラスターや武装の強化によりνガンダム以上の性能を有してる。
しかし小型で素早く、ビームシールドを持っている第二世代MSには全く歯が立たなかった。
一番最後のシーンだけセリフを鮮明に思い出せる
0:23 いかにも重そうな、慣性の効いたMSの動きが素晴らしい
Love how during the entire Crossbone vanguard attack the heavyguns were completely hard carrying the jegans 😅 to the point where only the heavyguns can damage things tho they still couldn't do much but but kill 1 pilot and shoot a leg 😅 the most damage it still did was when the g-cannons falling ammo killed that one mother
ジェガンが大型MSであることから、施設内の狭い局面でも運動性を活かせずに苦戦するシーンが描かれています。
また、ヘビーガンが前衛、ジェガンが後衛に描かれているのも、大型のジェガンが被弾しやすいことを考慮した並びで描かれています。製作に間に合わなかったのは、後衛に回るジェガンの中距離支援機のデザインです。開発から30年以上経過した機体には多くのバリエーションが存在していたはずですが製作が間に合わなかったのでしょう。
That first scene lmao, such a humiliating highlight video. They could have given the Jegan one small W. One little lucky beam blast.
Even though this video is titled "RGM-89R Jegan A Type",it contains footage from other Jegans as well.Though you cant say that it had all of the footage of the Jegans since there are some scenes missing.
Imaging losing this badly after several wars.
Frontier Colonies weren’t the main concern of the Feddies, shame the Jaegan was basically obsolete due to it’s age & official retirement, and now they get massacred by the Crossbone Vanguard!
ティターンズやエコーズやロンド・ベルのような精鋭のエリート部隊がこの戦闘の部隊には居ないからポンコツ連邦軍なんだよなベテランな動きのジェガンも居たけど
1:14 dude didnt stand a chance even with the shield the dudes entire upper body evaporated 😅
Absolutely mogged
Imagine being the best of the best suit during your time then getting clapped hard as soon as the new guys showed up 😢
Is this from a show or from games? can I know the name thou
From a movie gundam f91
@@FederationMS787 thanks mate
This is why I love UC, UC shows how horrible is a war is from soldier to civilian prospective not like the other shiny versions so goofy or cheesy lmao
100% facts
Why jegan in old animation is always open hatch ?
Minovsky Particles density is blocking all communications in the area. Opening the hatch is a more convenient way to communicate with each other compared to using a wire link.
@@realmarkinator oh ok² i thinks is only use wire link to protect pilots
By F91, the Jegan was showing its age.
0:15 this pilot just has a stroke and dies, why?😂
I'd imagine being thrown to the ground would shake you up pretty bad, poor bastard was probably trying to get out of his suit asap before it blew and was disoriented
Actually, he survives. You see him one or two scenes later running away with the other civilians. He just tripped trying to get out of the Jegan.
Can't believe they're using mobile suits that were made 3 decades ago
The pilota did the best with what they got. They had good aim, but them beam shields were like nah.
F91のジェガンは新機軸の小型高出力MSの引き立て役になってしまったあんまりな扱いだった。
0:05 sad, they only wanted to have birthday party 😥
From birthday to deathday.
Worse time to be alive. 😢
Fucking lit.
You'd think after all those wars the Federation would train their pilots how to conduct themselves in a high population area like a colony. I feel like every entry in the UC has to show a bunch of Federation grunts bumbling around and getting their civilians killed. I get that it's the point, the Federation can't do their job, but does every entry have to show it?
No but most of time it's incidents.
Also it was 20 years of peace.
It’s easily writer bias. They could’ve shown the destruction caused by the Crossbone Vanguard’s invasion but for some reason they just don’t. It’s ok to do it to the Federation because they’re portrayed as the “good guys” and they want the “good guys” to look bad so that the writers look smart and complex. It’s a very tired UC trope and one of the reasons I can’t really stand to watch Gundam anymore. Everyone knows how evil the Federation is, so there isn’t any point in always portraying their pilots as incompetent. The writers just want to boil down the war themes to “Hey the antagonists are actually the good guys because the protagonist did something bad.”
@@big3201 Yeah the Zeon atrocity washing really ruins a lot of Gundam stuff for me. I feel like this is a pretty predictable byproduct of a country that views itself as the victim of WW2 even though they were an aggressive imperialist power that committed some of the most heinous war crimes of the 20th century.
Skill isues
the Jegan pilots are too bad at war
the jegan look very cool but the only thing i see is they are die
アクシズショックから30年。ほとんど戦争ないから連邦軍の訓練度低下してるのよね(´;ω;｀)
この時代にジェスタやグスタフ・カールが配備されていても、クロスボーンのMSにボコボコにされたんだろうね。
νガンダムやユニコーン、クスィーが居てもボコボコにされたんだろうか？
Part of the issue was the fact that these pilots all suck. Like wtf are they doing? They're flying like rank amateurs!
The colony is rotating and they are flying in the air so to the pilots the ground is moving
Another factor is these colonies were out of the way posting.
EFFs were supposed to replace all their Jegan but they were still here in great number means very low priority in equipment and personnel.
When we actually saw Main Fed fleets fought in Victory, we saw their pilots in older machines gave a way better fight
After zeon become part of EFF There no any big war again and long time of peace
いくら頑張っても、1994年の車が2024年の車には負ける
そんなものだ。
ジェガンの活躍とか性能差とかどーでも良くなるくらい市民が可哀想
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