What if Argentina Joined the Axis?
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@@GaemingStudios-👿👿👿
Hmm
Did you turn comments off?
Apparently gibraltar is now in North Africa, Morocco Atlantic Coast.
Not enough people realize how good this guy actually is at making reasonable and entertaining videos.
Fr
I agree
But lacks the creativity sometimes
Sometimes too reasonable. History is crazy and not always predictable.
@@horatiuscocles8052Same. I wish he could take risks, like taking a stance even when it isn’t clear where something would go or lead to.
"Why didn't Argentina join?"
We may be fools, but we ain't that stupid
Fr
We were occupied on destroying ourselves
Economically speaking this feels like the blessed timeline for both the UK and Argentina.
Because brazil would kick their ass simply as that.
@@karmagaming2098de todos los países elegiste al el peor para la tarea
You should make a sequel to this “What if Japan invaded the Falklands?”
that would be awesome
i mean, what would realistically change? that would be practically this scenario excluding the ww2 part
@@atlas_archive8915 yeahh!!
Would Japan invade South Africa too?
Tbh, Falkland invasion would never happen as they are pre-occupied with more important matters and even if they did take the Falklands what did they really earn other than bragging rights?
Seeing as Chile has never officially lost a war, if they join the axis the axis would win
Thats what Hitler thought about Japan as well😂
@@jonathanborgwaldt8001 didn´t japan lost their first war against Korea just after the sengoku period ended?
@@ilichantoniocamachosolis4108You should have told Hitler that.
@@ilichantoniocamachosolis4108 Yes, they modernized with western weaponry and still lost because Korea had a based chad as a general
Thats right. I think he meant it more in a got invaded and Had to surrender Type of way @@ilichantoniocamachosolis4108
Wow. I didn’t think Argentina invading a tiny nearby island in 1940 would have such an effect on the timeline.
Butterfly effect at it's peak.
2 islands*
Falkland war was very important for Thatcher gaining enough popularity for majority back then, so yeah. Mind blowing.
But I was really surprised about Peron not rising to power. No Peronism? That was truly mind blowing for me.
@@zddxddyddw Eh, bah, you know what I mean.
I love the ending because I actually agree, "if Britain had just one more enemy in WW2 we wouldn't be in our 37th economic ressesion of the past 5 years and wouldn't have our country collapsing
It's crazy how Argentina joining the axis is honestly a timeline I'd rather live in.
Can anyone please share me link to possible history discord
Not to mention Jim'll Fix It wouldn't have made it to 19 years if Maggie had been less powerful
Margret Thatcher jumpscare at 14:35
Thank you, brother
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Can anyone please share me link to possible history discord
Chile could have taken the opportunity to adjust some of the southern borders if joining the allies. Argentina could have seized other South Atlantic islands, dragging Antarctica into WWII.
You’re forgetting the biggest problem: because of the butterfly effect, Messi wouldn’t be born.
What if Andorra declared war on Germany in ww2? I don’t think Germany could beat them
Andorra was technically at war with Germany during ww2 because they never signed the peace treaty after ww1
They wouldn't stand a chance (The Germans, of course)
@@ThePikminCaptain This is actually a myth. A usually trustworthy local newspaper in St. Louis, United States made it up in 1958, and because said newspaper was considered trustworthy, it got picked up by a bunch of others without anyone really questioning it. It wasn't until it blew up on the internet in just the past few years that anyone decided to look through the relevant archival records, and in doing so they ultimately found that Andorra had never once declared war on Germany
Andora SOLOS fr
@@ThePikminCaptain no idea why my comment about it was auto-removed (i hate YT sometimes), but that's actually a myth
as an argentine, i actually prefer this timeline, those territorial losses are in the long term less valuable than economic stability
Solo alguien cegado por el odio y la estupidez vive en el mundo donde Irak existe y sigue pensando que una ocupacion gringa trae beneficios
@@ShinigamiInuyasha777 ??
@@ShinigamiInuyasha777 re loco
no seríamos más estables...
@@ShinigamiInuyasha777
Dices con una voz cegada en odio
For sure Paraguay got some "Vietnamese flashbacks" seeing Brazilians Soldiers close to their borders lmao
90% of males in 20s and 30s are dead
I love how Argentina joining the Axis led to Britain getting a fundamental change in government, and not because they lost.
"Nothing ever happens"
I've seen German Venezuela althistories
PH also made an althist on the Brazilian Empire surving
I saw one TL where Argentina and America were swapped. (Argentina being a rich 1st world nation while the USA is a backwards corrupt poor nation)
You talking about Little Venice?
@@nightmarexgaming120 Yeah. But in a German Venezuela timeline its called Klein Venedig
I didn't expect him to start talking about british elections
It would be a necessity to talk about when you remove the surprisingly big deal that was the Falklands War.
Brazilians wildest dream
meh, its always great to watch argentina trippin, but we already got a positive outcome against them. brazil and argentina fought 2 direct wars and 2 proxy wars (that is, the ragamuffin war, cisplatine war, uruguayan war and the platine war), but brazil won 3 and secured a draw
@@Matheus-pf4dt
Brasil porra!!
@@Matheus-pf4dt
Don’t forget that one time Brazil and Argentina teamed up to fight Paraguay.
I don't think so man, in this timeline the Argentines seem much better economically and I don't think Brazil would change much, maybe the dictatorship would last even longer using the victory in the war as propaganda, and in the end, it's possible that the 2024 Brazil of this timeline wouldn't be very different from our Brazil, only the 3 sulistas would have a little more territory.
If things don't somehow change for the better for this Brazil, I prefer our timeline where we don't have a minimum amount of extra territory, but the Argentine economy is in chambles...
Well, it would be funny if they somehow declared war on us to regain territory but in the end just lose even more to all the neighbors, renaming the city of Buenos Aires to Bons Ares would be awesome, but the US would definitely step in and mediate the peace talks.
Drews Argentinian grandpa must be happy
Fr
Was waiting for a drew argentine grandpa reference
For real
😂
Y e s
Proportional Representation Britain? This surely is the best timeline!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
As an argentine, I wish this would've happened, not because of the rather dubious ideologies of the axis, but because we wouldn't have had Perón.
Hell no i aint giving Misiones to Brazil
La gente piensa que Perón es el culpable de la decadencia cuando está era previa a Perón.
As a brit i also prefer the idea of a less Thatcherite UK
@@santiagoale1377 I think it is the dictatorships in the 70s and 80s who helped to deindustrialize the country and made it reliant on agriculture again which made argentina economically backward
@@pavan923uk is economy failed
This is literally the best ending for Britain... I cant imagine proportional representation here, if only
There are way better endings than this for Britain. It's still good though
I can, the Labour membership is massively in favour of it and many of the more pragmatic leaders have hinted at supporting it. I doubt Labour will suggest it for the next parliament because they will have such a massive majority that it is likely to carry them through to a second term. it is during a theoretical third term that they might actually suggest it and put it in a manifesto for a third term in order to borrow votes from the smaller parties which they would do so for greater representation down the road. Doing this after two-three parliaments in power would have given Labour the time to reverse the damage of the Tories and bed in their policies and by bringing in proportional representation prevent the Tories from undoing it.
Have hope it is possible.
0:54 Man just called Costa Rica "Corrupt/False Democracy"
And Uruguay was actually much closer to the Axis due to Gabriel Terra
i mean it was back in the 30s and 40s
What time period was he talking about?
@@vandeurhineland6187brazil also flirted with joining the axis
@everyone this is about argentina, not yap yap yapan 🇯🇵
0:54 haha could you imagine if it was still like that? What a wacky alternate history idea!
Finally, Uruguay mentioned
Don't forget, with no Peron, there'd be no musical "Evita"
Best universe to live in
@@anti-spiral159 I disagree. I like the musical, not the movie, the musical.
@@palious13 I don't like the people behind the song (Eva, Peron, all those), the song or whatever is for yourself to enjoy or not, I can't discuss subjectivity
Really enjoyed this one, especially the focus on politics in the second half. The set-up was subtle, and the aftermath realistic. Could have also had a knock on effect for the cold war.
Argentina being part of the Axis massively hurts Britain because of one major export: food. This would put Britain in a bind, and they were already borderline starving as is.
Still, Churchill would be too stubborn to accept the loss of the Falklands, even if it means Britain receving less food supply.
@@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 I’m saying that that is a massive problem that they’d have to contend with. Not saying what would happen necessarily.
"Nothing ever happens"
Casually Peru and Ecuador having a mini war:
I don't think casualties ever consider any war mini.
@@JLAveyin the grand scheme of things the war was essentially minuscule
Also the Leticia War
I love these "What if (random country) joined Axis / Central Powers / Entente / Allies stories.
Can you do "What if the Ottoman Empire joined the Entente in WW1?"
Why
Literally who would they fight?
Russia would never ally with Turks
@@somebodyanonymousx its not meant to be realistic, just interesting.
What is the Ottomans were on their on side (With Bulgaria)
@@BaconLover100 bulgaria never joins central powers then
So faster WW1
My face if i see possible history has uploaded 🤩
I've actually been waiting for someone to touch on South America, thank you for being the one to do it :D
Ah yes, the crossover we never thought we wanted but what we needed
No Peron?
Blessed timeline
No Thatcher
blessed Timeline.
What if the allies won ww2? I know, it seems impossible but think about it.
An interesting Video would be if one side of the Allies won more than the other side. If the Western Allies managed to defeat the Germans before Operation Barbarossa starts or while the Germans were still deep inside of Russia.
Or what if the Western- Allies were somewhat more incompetent, allowing the Soviet Union to take more of Europe uncontested (Let's just say D-Day fails miserably in this timeline).
I think both timelines would make somewhat of a difference.
It June, not April.
@@homoinsanus4674 he did a vid where germany is fully occupied by soviet union, thats basically the timeline where ussr wins the cold war he made a video about it
Now this was a great one; I loved how you took an aspect of history (South America in WWII) that hadn't gotten a lot of attention, and gave a great analysis of it. One of the better presentations across the board out there now.
(And you even managed to not take the bait and do an obvious Andrew Lloyd Webber joke, too; that I appreciate...)
As someone living in Britain, the ending came as a shock to me, and I'm glad to know this all
Most underrated history/alternate history RUclipsr ever
i don't think near 200k subs is underrated
Blessed timeline
i one day gotta know how to know and study this much as you dude, very impressive
Truly the good timeline
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I find the lack of "HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE" disturbing...
Brazilian-turk hibryd
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What if Argentina Joined Norway?
(Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)
If you're Norwegian like me you know we were offered Cameroon as a colony?
@@notme9816 I actually didnt, can you tell a little about it
Nombre: argenuega
8:38 I reeeeeaaaaaaally hope that "What if 1984 really happened" scenario actually does get made. I would love to see that
PH is really my favorite alt history RUclipsr, unlike others he actually put realism as priority and not crazy outcomes
Argentina is such a beautiful country, wish someday I'll go visit them. Saludos desde Salta
YA TE VI RODRIGO
XD
now i want more south american alternate history, great
My argentinian is grandpa is loving these vids, make one about germany winning please
PH tripping with this one
I like how the left-wings were on the right and right-wings on the left.
YES PH DID MY EASTERN EUROPE COLD WAR COLOR SUGGESTION
may I ask on how do I join the discord (or well, rejoin)
because the link isn’t there, and the one in the channel description is expired
Country in the Americas: *Joins the Axis*
The USA: so you have chosen… death.
I dont know if Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile would stay very still watching how only Brazil and Bolvia get something
Uruguay lost several territories during the Brazilian War (when it was the Federal League) Paraguay during the Triple Alliance War
And Chile, although at that time it was the nation most politically aligned with Argentina
It was because of the latter that they lost the sovereignty of Patagonia during the Pacific War due to pressure from Buenos Aires (thus preventing Argentina from getting into the war along with Bolvia and Peru).
If only. That timeline sounds pretty good tbh.
I think you should do an "What if everything went perfect for Portugal/Spain" and revive that series
Could you make a video what if everything went perfect for Portugal?
Oh, do "What if Romani people got their own state after WW2?"
Scenario 1, somewhere in Egypt.
Scenario 2, somewhere in Europe.
Scenario 3, somewhere in the Indian subcontinent.
Please refrain from using the G slur, they are called Romani
@@TheSmokeOfSolidarity you are right, I forgot that was a slur. Sorry on my behalf.
@@NovikNikolovic it's Okie, we all make mistakes it's just important we learn from them
@@TheSmokeOfSolidarity now I just hope the Eurobros don't attack me for this comment just cause I even once brought up the notion of Romani people.
They definitely wouldn't have kept that state especially in Egypt and India they would've been slaughtered
The Alliance would likely force a refferendum on STV/AV in any cooperation deal with Thatcher, like the Lib Dems did in 2010. Not only that, but if Thatcher wanted them to support her budgets they'd need to be far more moderate than they were in real life, and key privatisation bills may not have passed
You can do "What if everything went perfect for Renaissance France"?
Video 9 of asking Possible History for a video about "If Valery Sablin was succesful"
This is a very good idea
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It would also be possible argentina tries to push for the south sandwich islands as well
Edit: it would also be possible for the allies to offer chile the other part of that southern most part of argentina
Just for better borders
Love your content! Suggestion: What if Spain reamined Trastamara and the Habsburgs stayed in the HRE?
The Idea is amazing but its at a time where the continuing is too reliant on uncertain events such as who marries who or which important figure dies when.
Real stuff
Do a "what if everything went perfect for Argentina" please 🇦🇷🇦🇷
Absolutely glorious video (as usual)
can u please make a video abut what if every thing went perfect for the regency of algiers in the maghrebi war 1699-1702 please
Fun fact, Chile, Argentina and Brazil were offered to join the Anti-Comintern pact, or ABC as the Germans called it. The reason why they refused to join was Germany going to war with the western Allies.
There was also potential for Poland to join the Anti Comintern, but Ribbentrop being arrogant against the poles ruined Goerings ability to negotiate with them.
saw the thumbnail and instantly thought of tha one rigamarole clip where rick slams morty into the ground but with britain and argentina
I need a "what if every country that could join the axis did" Video.
I’m gonna keep asking this
Instead of “what if Germany kept trying” do “what if France kept trying”
1871 - France loses Franco Prussian war, cedes Alsace Laurene to Germany
1914-1919 - France’s loses the weltkreig, and cedes the border region of Alsace, cedes Nancy, dunkirk, and Lillie, while Germany annexes Luxembourg and the all the land up to the Meuse river, while making a puppet of Belgium. Also France ends up undergoing a far left revolution and the original government flees to Africa
1939-1945 - France loses the second weltkrieg, and cedes the area around Calais and up to Amiens, which is given to Germanys Belgian puppet. France’s original government is restored to power under restrictions
1948 - France loses 3rd weltkreig, forced to cede the Lorraine plateau behind the cities of Nancy and Metz, and also cedes all of the French alps to Italy, while Switzerland also gains land up to annecy, furthermore, britanny gains full independence while France itself becomes a complete puppet government of Germany, permanently.
South georgia used to be here, but then disappered from this scene 5:40 Was that intentional?
Argentina only developed a plan for invasion in late September 1941. However, within a week or so there was a collision involving one of its two battleships, one of its three cruisers and a destroyer (which sank). This put nearly half the major warships out of action and made any early invasion impracticable.
Can you make an "What if Operation Valkyrie was a success?"
Your videos are masterpiece for people, keep it going!
Please make a video about an total Anti-Sino War (the united eight nations) 1900
8:53 what are those lines on Switzerland?
I'm sure this will change ww2 in ways beyond imagination... no way it couldn't, right??
okay, well, after watching the video, it did change more than I honestly expected it to.
What happened to the map download?
Video idea: What if Pyrrhus of Epirus United Greece into a single kingdom? Basically, instead of dying from a projectile in battle, Pyrrhus wins and goes on to reunite Greece and Anatolia with the ambitious of attacking Rome once again, possibly in conjunction with Carthage. How would that affect the first Punic war and Alexander’s successors? Would the combined might of Greece and Carthage crush Rome or would their coalition fall apart and turn into a three way war? Would the Seleucid’s attack Pyrrhus before he could begin his campaign against Rome, or would Pyrrhus turn on them after conquering magna gracia.
Idea: What if everything went well for everyone (or terribly)
Can you do What if melaka empire manage to deafeat the portugal empire during the war on melaka empire vs portugal empire
may you do What If Canada Won the revolts (Rebellions of 1837, rebellions mounted in 1837-38 in each colony of Upper and Lower Canada against the British Crown and the political status quo to become democracies)
What if everything went PERFECT for Possible History?
Super interesting concept w video ❤️
Life could be a dream!
5:44 woah woah woah what this map
Kinda intresting how biggest conscuance for choice in WW2 come for complitly diffrent country decades after conflict
Anything about the Peruvian-Ecuadorian war in this case or would it not happen at all?
Could you make a video on "what if the plan of D. Pedro I of Brazil to install monarchies in South America happened"?
That made we wonder what if the South-American Prussia (Chile) & Peru joined the Central powers in WW1.
Interesting 🤔
Funnily enough, my country (Uruguay) was one of the closest SA countries to joining the axis. That was because our dictator, Gabriel Terra, had declared a military alliance with Italy and even supported the italians in the second italo-ethiopian war with a 100 voluntaries.
No sabia lo de los voluntarios
Idea for next years April Fools Day: what if the 3 factions from the Plants Vs Zombies universe were REAL the Plants, the Zombie and the Gnomes all lead by their respective leaders of Crazy Dave/Craztopher David Blazing III, Dr Zomboss/Dr Edgar George Zomboss and King Gnomus.
It just popped into my head and I thought it would be funny lol
Heat Cold
ive never been this early
Finally my country appears!
14:00 I'm not sure about this claim, because a ton of British colonies in Asia were occupied by Japan as well.
"Core british territory" not colony, do Indians see themselves as British?
@@Bufns well they're certainly being told they are.
You should really make "what if everything went perfect for the ottomans"
Cool
I think Paraguay would also join to take some land from Argentina lost in the war of triple alliance.
Pretty interesting, especially since a lot of germans went there