Ragnarsons discussion about what they should do with Ecbert - Vikings 4x20
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"But I am King... of kings."
Man, the look of Ivar's face right after that.
King Ecbert should’ve also say “ I also Loved your mother Bjorn” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I wish he said this😂😂😂
"Ok thats it. ivar you are right."
Right at this point, Ivar should've whipped out Ragnar Lothbrok's arm ring and told his bothers what Ragnar's final words to him were: be ruthless. Bjorn was obsessing over a dream that his father had long abandoned.
no not in this scenario. being ruthless and kill Ecbert result in nothing.
TheBois InShade rangnar told ivar to attack ecbert during his final words to him but ivar is right if they just would have stay there and kept attacking not allowing any forces to gather they could have taken over all of Europe ( that would have been pretty dope to see in my opinion)
Timo van Galen
I agree, Ragnar’s only dream before his death was to demolish England or at least Wessex. *SPOLIERS FOR SEASON 6* . In the imaginary conversation Bjorn had with Ivar in 6x10, Ivar was correct when he said “Our father’s real legacy is safe with me.” He was the only one that knew that final version of Ragnar, Bjorn knew the passionate, ambitious Ragnar, that’s why he thought the settlement was still his dream. Ivar knew the sadder, wiser Ragnar and he knew his final wish was to destroy Wessex so I wonder if Ragnar would’ve been on Ivar’s side at least in Season 5A. I don’t think the other brothers ever understood what Ragnar truly wanted.
After bingeing Vikings from the start, recently, it seems that just as Rollo's one trick pony schtick is betraying Ragnar and preaching about how it's important to be loyal,
Bjorn's problem is, in the words of Ragnar, he has the "strength of a man but the will of a little girl". Bjorn's a blunt instrument that thinks it can think. Bjorn the Bonehead.
Also Ragnar once advised him to think with his head, not with his penis. But that's all Bjorn does from start to finish - he thinks constantly and consistently with his penis. But I can't really blame him. It's entirely possible he was born without anything between his ears.
Ivar was right if they raided England and kept the army together he wouldn’t lose the battle to Alfred in the future
He wasn’t right because sons of Ragnar fought each other that’s what destroyed everything
If Bjorn and sigurd were still alive things would’ve been different
@@kleinburger137 they were still alive.....this show is so horribly inaccurate its kinda a insult to be on the history channel....Ivar never Killed Sigurd.....Sigurd and Bjorn became kings and then died. Ivar died and was buried in England and was said no one was able to conquer England till William (Rollo's descendant and no Rollo didn't live at the same time nor was he related to Rangar) William dug up Ivar seen he hadn't decayed then burned him on a pyre and then went on to be king of England
@@Shifty51991 This is a tv show discussion not a historical discussion
@@Shifty51991 and we’re not worried about what the show did wrong we’re discussing what the show could’ve done differently
Ivar is so confused when Sigurd agrees with him.
well since sigurd has never agreed with any of ivar's ideas before hand, it makes sense
Ecbert was by far my favorite character in this show. Even in this state he was strategizing. East Anglia was at that time a very poor kingdom and mostly swamp land. This would keep his own much more populous and profitable lands in Wessex and Mercia, along with their armies, intact.
not only that, but by this time he was no longer king, meaning none of this would hold anyway. He had already passed the power off to his son.
@@kadeweezywoodward9485 and on top of that he convinced the vengeful sons of ragnar to allow him to die at his own hand JUST like Ragnar. Both Ecbert and Ragnar played each other like a fiddle despite having deep respect for one another.
@@SmokeyGames420 my only issue with ecberts death is that it was by suicide. Im not a religious person, but im pretty sure killing yourself sends you directly to hell.. and ecbert was SUPER religious towards the end.
I guess you could argue that he forsook god in the end, much like ragnar.
@@kadeweezywoodward9485 Hey I don't blame him. I'd rather kill myself then be subjected to a Blood Eagle ritual too. But I do thoroughly believe that Ecbert was questioning his religion just as much as Ragnar was questioning his. Like Ragnar, he was a broken man and didn't care much for pleasing his god.
@@SmokeyGames420he believed that there must be a god and religion
Ragnar and Ecbert were 10 moves ahead while everyone else didn't even know what game they were playing.
Killing Aelle in cold blood, without thinking twice.
Hesitating about killing Ecbert, the real mastermind.
Well to be fair Aelle was on the battlefield when captured.
Actually Ragnar was the mastermind here. This was all according to his plan.
@@joshuaplotkin8826 Exactly, But Ecbert also.
Ecbert was able to strategize even better after Athelstan translated things that the Romans left behind. He was able to win battles and strengthen his kingdom.
i like how for the sake of the plot, Ecbert now speaks their language
Well he already learned a little from Athelstan and Ragnar so it’s not that much of a plothole, but since Björn and Ivar speak Old English it wasn’t that necessary
@@johannesfuchs2330 agreed.
The sons joint problem was that they all except Ivar focused entirely on "what our father wanted" Ragnar had his dreams and ambitions but as his son's they should have had their own dreams and build their own legacy
If they had listened to Ivar they could have taken over England and with their combined forces in England and Scandinavia They could have achieved so much more
Interestingly enough, that actually was achieved about 150 years later by Cnut the Great, but all that would, similarly, be squandered by his own successors.
Totaly agree
what are you talking about, Bjorn had his own ambitions and explored the mediterranean and Africa and became the saviour of Norway and Ubbe found North America. Taking over England was only Ivar's ambition. you saying they should have taken England is just your opinion, They had other plans.
@@luelmoges if they would have conquered england they could have made it a stronghold from where they could raid other places as the the mediterranean. And ubbe could have gone exploring from england just as easy.
@@ang1555 again that's just your opinion, Bjorn and Ubbe had other plans.
Bjorn's body movements are very much like his father
They should've listened to ivar
King Ecbert still playing chess till the very end !
"and what if you kill ecbert ivar, huh, what then?"
"well then he's dead ubbe."
LOL! say what you want about ivar, but he's my favorite son of ragnar. not only because he's funny, but because he's a true viking. i honestly liked it when he was king of kattegat
For once I agreed with Ivar over the rest of the brothers
Bjorn’s little lean at 0:22
‘And what if we kill Ecbert, Iver huh, what then?’
‘Well then he’s dead Ubbe’
Had me laughing out loud.
Tone and body language was perfect from Iver 😂
Believing ecbert is being honest is a fools game every time he makes a deal with someone, despite only meeting him once ivar knew that far better than bjorn who has been around him far more and seen what trusting him does
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Lol... isnt Ecbert not king anymore?
just part of a larger and bolder strategy
LMAO, well played ;)
I don't know about that ... Aethelwulf has no legal documents and everyone else who witnessed the ceremony is dead
@@julianaugustin1044 paperwork was done
@@julianaugustin1044 that scribe was still alive during alfred’s reign in the show.
Missed opportunity to raid and take over England. They had the biggest army at the time.
An army of that size tends to get noticed fairly quickly even back then. I'm not sure that they would have been able to conquer all of England let alone hold it
@@jgrj52 well they probably can't conquer the whole country, but with such a large army, they could invade and capture large chunks of the country. with enough spots under their control, it would be nearly impossible for the saxons to get rid of them. and personally i agree with what ivar is saying. the saxons took what is near and dear to the them (ragnar), so they should take what is near and dear to the saxons (england).
They shouldnt have talked about that infront of him.
You probably know this by now but it was because they didn't think he spoke their language
I always thought there was something abit Ace Ventura-like sometimes in Bjorn's body language? Just me 😂
The show focused too much in Björn and Ivar, and left the three others aside.
Ragnar did say seek revenge on Ecbert not Aella 😅
Did the actor of king Ecbert also voice king vendrick from dark souls 2? They sound incredibly similar
Hazardous 088 wait when does Vendrick talk? I thought he goes hollow
The Death Star
It’s in the DLCs. You enter his memory after gaining each crown and in his memory is him sitting in the crypt by himself before he goes hollow. You can look up the dialogue, it’s some really cool and poetic stuff what he says.
The Death Star
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Here ya go
Hazardous 088 thanks! And yeah he does sound familiar
Bjorn sounds a lot like Ragnar now.
Ludwig giving his best Ragnar impression is beyond cringe, he was never able to be his own character.
they should have just asked for land and the king`s wheight in gold
This never happened which is fine, it's a fun show. However the amount of "This is how real leaders..." nonsense you see in the commentary section of any Vikings clip shows people who think this is reality not fiction. It is loosely based on Viking mythology with historical characters that are not not historically accurate.
Can someone remind me why king ecbert had ragnar killed?
if im not mistaken he didnt want to kill ragnar so ragnar asked him to give himself to aelle , its all part of a bigger plan or something like that , ragnar knows he cant win so his death will be the end of them cause his son will come to get their revenge
Ecbert at the time is a King of Saxons (with King Aella) while Ragnar is the King of the Vikings in which the Saxons hated the most. So, the most obvious thing to do when Ecbert holds Ragnar as prisoner is to kill him because if he does not, his whole kingdom will turn against him. However, he did not want to kill Ragnar himself because he loved him so he gave Ragnar to Aella. Also, Ragnar tricked him by saying that if Aella would be the one to kill him, the wrath of the Vikings would only fall to Northumbria.
Id felt bad for him honestly
Wonder why they are discussing this next to ecbert lulz
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