+SupernovaDragon77 They like to think that. Just leave their food bowl empty. They'll either bug you about it, or go hunt their own food. That's what my cat does.
Well they are solitary animals,some individuals might in the slightest care about you because it realizes you feed it and all without killing it.Yet you set that cat back into Africa around 10000 years ago,it’s not going leave you as soon as seem to not be a provider,and it’ll continue living decently.Basically,some want you,but almost all of them don’t need when it comes to actual survival
Everyone saying cats are dominant are uneducated. Domesticated cats are domesticated because of evolution. Cats have been overtime controlled by human. Just like dogs. Cats look at us as their whole world. Even at the times they are kittens taken away from their mother. Your feet are a sign of feeding. That's the first thing they see when you go to get their food ready for serving. Now tamed cats are wild and haven't been domesticated by humans as long. Evolution hasn't hit them. The birth rate is very very slow with tamed cats. Meaning you can't change the DNA as much as you can with domesticated house cats. You can have multiple litter with one cat domesticated which makes its litter domesticated. Tamed cats like lions WILL NEVER BE DOMESTICATED!!! unless you have a family lineage over a period of approx 300-400 years to tame an entire population of lions. Even then you will still not be able to draw the wild from the animals DNA as much as a period of thousands of years. We have to be the leader of every pack, clan, etc.
I don't know about all domesticated animal being tame - there's a lot of antisocial domesticated animals. Dogs are known for it - some dogs, after being abused or living in certain conditions will end up being afraid of any human. Cows probably kill more people than most if not all animals - a stressed out cow on a bad day will fuck you up or kill you and then give you a couple of bonus pokes while you're laying in the dirt unconscious. While taming and domestication are clearly different terms, I don't think there's a hierarchy between them - you can have sweet wild animals and completely unapproachable domesticated animals.
You are 100 percent correct, I now live in South America and have many tame animals that I have acquired along with my domesticated dogs and there is really no difference. Any intelligent animal can become acclimated to living with humans.
Bison not wanting to be confined to small spaces does not make them 'dicks'. It makes them smart. Plenty of animals can be domesticated in some way, just not in the way that humans consider cats and dogs domesticated. I think the problem is really about what we consider domestication to be.
Theres something to be learned here. We give animals nice things, when they do right. But when a human does it, there is no reward, and in many cases you end up regretting being nice to people. Now we know why selflessness is rare amungst humans. We have been trained in behavioral science in the opposite manor that we train animals. Thus, opposite result. Bad part is, this can create a cycle of reinforcement. Subject A - With zero trust, and is selfish, will act in a way that will make Subject-B begin to have zero trust, and develop selfish behaviors. Subject-B will then spread it to Subject - C, via the same behavioral pattern displayed by the source, Subject - A
in the next episode you should mention pigs. if you free them six months later there wild. there hair thickens, they grow tusks, the toughness of there hide increases and they become very aggressive
+Ethan Wagner easy. we have done it many times in the past. heard off slavery? hell they could pay other humans to round us up. never fire a shot just buy us like cattle from our own governments.
Yeah, but slavery would be akin to taming wild animals. In the same way that wild animals turn against their trainers, human slaves break out in violent revolts against their masters. And I guess I kinda just answered my own question.
I loved how informative this ways :) Made me rethink about how much history and science and necessities really tie into each other. Thanks for providing this series! I listened to every word of all your videos! [Wanted to post in this one because lots of ignorant people in the comments for this one]
Domestication doesn't take as long as you think. Look at the Russian foxes. They were bred for their degree of tameness and within just a few generations became a lot like dogs. So much so that they started displaying dog like characteristics; their coats started to change colors, their ears started to droop, they no longer held their tails up and and they started to retain puppy like qualities. So it may just be that canines domesticate very quickly.
Not all domestic animals are tame. We have a feral population of cats in our area. We tried to tame a litter of two kittens that belonged to a mom who was a very skittish and pathetic stray (my sisters and I. Mostly my sisters that time). We named them Sebastian and Viola (I had been reading "Twelfth Night" and the names got into my sisters' heads I guess). Sebastian is one of the sweetest cats I've ever known. He's skittish like his mom, so if you move too fast he'll bolt, but he likes nothing better than sitting on laps purring and kneading, or wrestling with toy mice. Viola is wild enough we were able to get her fixed for free. When they were kittens my sister and one of her friends decided to give them baths. Sebastian didn't resist at all. He meowed pathetically, but didn't even try to climb out. Viola completely shredded the friend's arms before she could even be brought inside. Kind of interesting, considering the same effort was put into taming both, and they were related.
It's kinda cringy how he refers to some wild animals as "jerks" "assholes" and "dicks" cuz their natural programming does not make them suitable to be slaves. I mean they're just wild animals, no one likes to be in a freaking cage all their life.
Drug companies, are your ready? Get on this: lion xanax, zebra valium, panda viagra, etc. Better living through chemistry. Legalize the market for the animals and then you have a new expanded market place for your drugs. I shouldn't have to say it, but this is satire.
+flyingfshsndwch The problem with Lion Xanax is that people would stop taking regular Xanax and start taking the Lion version. =P And for my professional healthcare friends, we can all agree that Versed is Lion Xanax!
One thing: Yes, we "use" the dog. But, originally, the dog (or wolf) used US almost as much as we used THEM. Have your pets spayed or neutered and be sure to donate to - or volunteer at - your local shelter. (ok now I sound like Drew Carey...) Human civilization would not have developed as quickly without the help of our canine - and later equine - companions.
+garcemac This is why I don't buy the whole vegan shtick. Our relationship with such animals has by symbiotic for millenia. Its only with the advent of industrial farming that it can be said these animals are being exploited.
what about the Siberian domesticated foxes? they started in like, the 50s I think (don't actually remember). they where able to breed a domesticated Fox much faster than they expected. was this just because of the purposeful nature of the project, or are they not actually fully domesticated?
+ADreaMarie Its not that its impossible to domesticate these animals-its just hard or impractical-especially for early humans with less technology. In today's world however, we can pretty much domesticate anything if we really want to but there is no point to domesticating some of these animals.
i read in a natgeo issue about a group of russian researchers tried to domesticate foxes. they select the most docile ones and mate them. over 3-4 generations they get foxes as docile as any dog (they even wag tails and demand belly rubs) . this experiment may proves that by selective breeding, some previously-considered wild animals can eventually be domesticated they also breed the absolute vicious foxes by mating the most violent of the bunch
I like the way the host sounds like he's been drinking since 10am but is handling it well You can accuse him of being drunk but you must admire his tenacity
One point missing(of why some animals cannot be domesticated) is that some animals run/walk/migrate miles and miles, which makes it even bad to tame them.
But interestingly, when you start domesticating foxes, they start to slowly look more and more un-fox-like and similar to dogs as the fox generations in captivity go by.
Interesting topic! The only thing I have to point out is that your statement at 2:10 "lions eat meat and for us that is hard to provide because we need it for ourselfs" - FALSE. Im sick of this pro-meateating culture that takes their own opinion and shows it as facts.
+kennedy brantley What about African killer bees? When I was a kid in the 1970's, we were afraid African killer bees would make it across Mexico and turn our local bee populations against us. Are African killer bees the true un domesticated bee untouched by centuries of European cultivation?
There is an African animal that got domesticated: cats! Ancient Egyptians domesticated cats to protect their crops from mice and rats...All domesticated cats have this common African cat ancestor.
I would argue that a housecat is not TRULY domesticated. It’s somewhere between tame and domesticated. Not much separates a housecat from a mountain lion. They are not that far removed from
Also, the fact of the matter is that domestication is more than just befriending a nice animal. It is a lengthy process that utilizes selective breeding that slowly alters the progeny of a once wild species into a more sociable and manageable variation. You still can't really domesticate 'true' wolves, because they don't have the human-friendly traits that were specifically bred into dogs.
Here in Sweden people have tried to tame and domesticate moose over and over again during history. They can be tamed, but they can't really be domesticated because they are jerks when it comes to some parts. For example people have been trying to teach moose to be ridden upon, but they don't like that at all and go crazy. But tamed moose can be really cute and nice towards you. For example there's a moose park about 50 km away from where I live, and I went there two summers ago. The moose where so friendly and wanted to be petted on their heads and backs, but they weren't domesticated because their calves won't know that humans are friendly, you have to teach them that we'll give them food and pet them. But if they continue throughout several generations they may be domesticated one day. :)
I wish we could domesticate cheetahs. They barely survive in the wild as it is. Surely we can do something to make pairs run miles together (set up a bate behind a moving vehicle). Also I'd love to see the black panther domesticated. Love that animal
I'm a bit confused. What about camels? In the Middle East, they've been breeding camels for centuries. Camels are notoriously foul-tempered, but were also the best animal for migration across deserts. They can survive in environments that would kill a horse. Are Bedouin camels domesticated or merely tamed?
I'am from Belgium, and i remember that about fourty years ago there was a program on tv called terloops. There was a family with four or five lions living together with there small childeren. The lions walked free true the house and the garden. They gave them dogfood, witch the lions liked. What happend later with the annimals i don't know. These days that would be not possible because of the loaw and lions are protected annimals.
I guess the only Lion you can have have as a pet is Lion from Steven Universe. You can even put items inside Lion. Now that is the ultimate form of a domesticated animal.
Check out Konrad Lorenz's breeding of foxes. Selected for non-fear of humans, and for curiosity, they became fox-dogs in six generations, tail-wagging included. Lorenz's results suggest that other wild species, if they can be selectively bred in captivity, with epigenetics factored in, may be more amenable to domestication than this video claims.
Regarding pandas... Did they try in vitro with them instead of doing it "naturally"? IMO it would work better mainly because pandas in question wouldn't have any say in the matter. They don't need to like each other, they don't even need to meet each other. It's just that vet makes female panda sleep and when she wokes up, she's pregnant.
I wouldn't consider a wild animal tame just because it isn't afraid of humans. I think that the animal has to go through the taming process to be considered tame. Those animals in the Galapagos are not tame, they are just not naturally afraid of us. Polar bears/tiger sharks/salties aren't generally afraid of humans either, but I wouldn't call any of them tame (unless someone has tamed the particular individual).
my uncle used to have a dog that was 1/2 husky , 1/2 alaskan wolf. as trace stated, unfortunately unpredictable animals will crumple you and get put down... :(
Speaking of elephants, the original practitioners of muay thai consider themselves to be spiritually connected to elephants and are a big reason we know how to handle them at all. I can't imagine rabbits did well when they were first inside. Also, foxes are being officially domesticated, silver foxes specifically. I feel that domestication isn't wrong inherently if we preserve the species it came from, i'd be in favor of not using animals if we didn't have to, but not for a sentimental reason and rather because if we develop a method that makes it so we don't have to use animals its probably just more efficient. The level we'd have to be at technologically, to me, seems like it's have to be advanced to say the least so it reasons that whatever method we'd be using would be simply better.
we actually bred domestic foxes in about 15-17 generations. they look alot like pomeranians. they bred the tamer ones with other tamer foxes and got fluffier more friendly foxes. did the same thing in reverse too. bred the more feral foxes with other feral foxes and that changed their appearance as well. they looked more wild and feral and of course they had a poor disposition .
+KagaiYami domestication still is a process of dozens and hundreds of generations, but it's easy for some oh-so-educated researchers to tell people out there that they have domesticated foxes, but changing the shape and some small behavioural traits within a few decades is NOT domestication. it's more a kind of adaption to the circumstances. I'm not saying that I doubt that they will be successful sometime in the future, but I doubt that they should brag about "having domesticated foxes" just now already, since this does a lot of harm to these animals. Look at the internet and at all those people who think they can have a pet fox easily now, and then look at the foxes that are being abandoned or mistreated for what they still are - not domesticated and still very close to being tamed.
there is an interesting theory that suggests that just maybe some animals will yield to those who understand them and not just their attributes. To what degree is the animal being domesticated and not the human? There are so many things to consider from the perspective of the animal kingdom that really minimizes our motives which are usually scientific or labor related. You have to admit that when we say domesticate that basically means reprogramming the animal and it's behavior to serve us.
Point #3 can be overcome somewhat with large litter sizes, and then selecting the most friendly ones, as was done by Soviet scientists with silver foxes. As for the horse/zebra thing, that's probably less to do with what's actually possible, and more to do with whether we're willing to spend several centuries on this one project, for a result that will never be able to pay off. Actually, those foxes cause issues with #1 and #2, they were kept in cages (#1), and for the most part lack real hierarchy (#2), and yet, the Soviets took them from wild to Semi-domesticated in well under a century. The whole project has been running less than 70 years (established in 1948), and yet, look at the results.
+Matthew Marden You fail to realize though that those foxes have also started to show Extreme aggression and violent behavior not seen in wild foxes, also they are being Litter Milled for their Fur, so they are often kept in small cages, with 3 or more in a single one. But you also have to see their body language and general behavior to also know this, and I have watched several documentaries on this one subject.
+Lone Wolf The aggression wasn't something unexpected, they actually deliberately bred the most unfriendly foxes time and again to see what would happen, in the same way the bred the friendliest ones.
Cats don't fall into the domesticated category by virtue of the fact they don't have a hierarchy in the wild - yet they are not tamed wild animals either, which ,makes cats pretty unique amongst the animals closely associated with humans
Well it sounds like we are close or still in the process of domestcating Foxes at least Russia is. But they are expensive as hell and aren't fully domesticated yet.
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Could we gene edit wild animals into being domesticated in order to skip the dozens of generations it would take could technology like that be possible in the near future
Informative here and there in parts.Calling wild animals 'assholes' did not sound cool though. But i loved this guy's T-Shirt. Would like to get an online link to purchase a t shirt like this one.
cats while meeting many of these criteria, are not domesticated. they tolerate living with us because we provide food. kitty still has the need to hunt when he can EVEN WHEN WE PROVIDE THEM WITH FOOD AND SHELTER.
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This video didnt need to be 12 minutes long. Why you wont have a lion as a pet....because its a F#cking Lion!
+REDPotriats757 Yeah, but there are other animals you cant have as pets. So, for your own health, you need to watch all 12 minutes.
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12 Minutes to know if I can get mah baby tiger ? Cmon Trace !
I need him ಠ_ಠ
+REDPotriats757 why you always lion?
ok i'll leave
+REDPotriats757 Get a life, if you can do it better than start uploading your own videos and apologize...
+TheIllusionelf lmfao
I'm definitely going to get myself a pet lion.
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"They're jerks" and "they're dicks" is some of the most scientific terminology I have ever heard.
+BowNow Yea, that was poorly done. As a side note see the YT video, "Animal Can Be Jerks". Funny stuff.
You didn't talk about the domestication of foxes. It was a really interesting study.
Ya but that cost more resources then it gained
@@palebluedot7435 Obviously!!! Wtf are you on about??? You don't even know what you are talking about.
I'm pretty sure cats see themselves as the masters not the opposite.
yeah cats believe we are stupid .. and we exist to feed them taking about a pet cat.
+SupernovaDragon77 They like to think that. Just leave their food bowl empty. They'll either bug you about it, or go hunt their own food. That's what my cat does.
Well they are solitary animals,some individuals might in the slightest care about you because it realizes you feed it and all without killing it.Yet you set that cat back into Africa around 10000 years ago,it’s not going leave you as soon as seem to not be a provider,and it’ll continue living decently.Basically,some want you,but almost all of them don’t need when it comes to actual survival
Everyone saying cats are dominant are uneducated. Domesticated cats are domesticated because of evolution. Cats have been overtime controlled by human. Just like dogs. Cats look at us as their whole world. Even at the times they are kittens taken away from their mother. Your feet are a sign of feeding. That's the first thing they see when you go to get their food ready for serving. Now tamed cats are wild and haven't been domesticated by humans as long. Evolution hasn't hit them. The birth rate is very very slow with tamed cats. Meaning you can't change the DNA as much as you can with domesticated house cats. You can have multiple litter with one cat domesticated which makes its litter domesticated. Tamed cats like lions WILL NEVER BE DOMESTICATED!!! unless you have a family lineage over a period of approx 300-400 years to tame an entire population of lions. Even then you will still not be able to draw the wild from the animals DNA as much as a period of thousands of years. We have to be the leader of every pack, clan, etc.
My cat sees me as a big, clumsy, ugly though useful cat.
i want to know about the psych guys who behaviorally trained their roomate!
yaaas!
Yes! Lol.
Yeah me toooo lol
+PhilyCheese1494 didn't found the article, if someone did post the link :)
Please someone link this case
I don't know about all domesticated animal being tame - there's a lot of antisocial domesticated animals. Dogs are known for it - some dogs, after being abused or living in certain conditions will end up being afraid of any human. Cows probably kill more people than most if not all animals - a stressed out cow on a bad day will fuck you up or kill you and then give you a couple of bonus pokes while you're laying in the dirt unconscious. While taming and domestication are clearly different terms, I don't think there's a hierarchy between them - you can have sweet wild animals and completely unapproachable domesticated animals.
You are 100 percent correct, I now live in South America and have many tame animals that I have acquired along with my domesticated dogs and there is really no difference. Any intelligent animal can become acclimated to living with humans.
Bison not wanting to be confined to small spaces does not make them 'dicks'. It makes them smart.
Plenty of animals can be domesticated in some way, just not in the way that humans consider cats and dogs domesticated. I think the problem is really about what we consider domestication to be.
Well said
Exactly.. and lions are not jerks either
Hey you can give a treadmill to a cheetah couple so that they can do their ritual lol
Theres something to be learned here. We give animals nice things, when they do right. But when a human does it, there is no reward, and in many cases you end up regretting being nice to people. Now we know why selflessness is rare amungst humans. We have been trained in behavioral science in the opposite manor that we train animals. Thus, opposite result. Bad part is, this can create a cycle of reinforcement. Subject A - With zero trust, and is selfish, will act in a way that will make Subject-B begin to have zero trust, and develop selfish behaviors. Subject-B will then spread it to Subject - C, via the same behavioral pattern displayed by the source, Subject - A
in the next episode you should mention pigs. if you free them six months later there wild. there hair thickens, they grow tusks, the toughness of there hide increases and they become very aggressive
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+lobreddemon nice
+dumb gal It's what we do best.
+dumb gal that hit job on bacon cheese burgers was so sad.
+AC SpecOps You can cuddle with a lion or tiger. Once.
So if aliens were to conquer the Earth, would humans be like the wild animals, and be difficult to domesticate?
+Ethan Wagner easy. we have done it many times in the past. heard off slavery? hell they could pay other humans to round us up. never fire a shot just buy us like cattle from our own governments.
Yeah, but slavery would be akin to taming wild animals. In the same way that wild animals turn against their trainers, human slaves break out in violent revolts against their masters. And I guess I kinda just answered my own question.
aliens would be able to tame humans very quickly but no reason to wiping everyone out is the better choice
Depends how friendly they are.
Politicians domesticate humans all the time
I loved how informative this ways :) Made me rethink about how much history and science and necessities really tie into each other. Thanks for providing this series! I listened to every word of all your videos! [Wanted to post in this one because lots of ignorant people in the comments for this one]
Domestication doesn't take as long as you think. Look at the Russian foxes. They were bred for their degree of tameness and within just a few generations became a lot like dogs. So much so that they started displaying dog like characteristics; their coats started to change colors, their ears started to droop, they no longer held their tails up and and they started to retain puppy like qualities. So it may just be that canines domesticate very quickly.
And this guy has an awesome personality. Makes the videos more interesting to watch.
Not all domestic animals are tame. We have a feral population of cats in our area. We tried to tame a litter of two kittens that belonged to a mom who was a very skittish and pathetic stray (my sisters and I. Mostly my sisters that time). We named them Sebastian and Viola (I had been reading "Twelfth Night" and the names got into my sisters' heads I guess). Sebastian is one of the sweetest cats I've ever known. He's skittish like his mom, so if you move too fast he'll bolt, but he likes nothing better than sitting on laps purring and kneading, or wrestling with toy mice. Viola is wild enough we were able to get her fixed for free. When they were kittens my sister and one of her friends decided to give them baths. Sebastian didn't resist at all. He meowed pathetically, but didn't even try to climb out. Viola completely shredded the friend's arms before she could even be brought inside. Kind of interesting, considering the same effort was put into taming both, and they were related.
there is no such thing as a tamed cat.
We have two here that seem ultra tame. As for being trained, I'd say they've done an excellent job training us.
dmclaren lol
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No such thing
***** ha
It's kinda cringy how he refers to some wild animals as "jerks" "assholes" and "dicks" cuz their natural programming does not make them suitable to be slaves. I mean they're just wild animals, no one likes to be in a freaking cage all their life.
Exactly. I didn't like that either
U shut the fuck up
Zebras are assholes though
Drug companies, are your ready? Get on this: lion xanax, zebra valium, panda viagra, etc. Better living through chemistry. Legalize the market for the animals and then you have a new expanded market place for your drugs.
I shouldn't have to say it, but this is satire.
+flyingfshsndwch We shouldn't have to say this but....genius.
+flyingfshsndwch The problem with Lion Xanax is that people would stop taking regular Xanax and start taking the Lion version. =P And for my professional healthcare friends, we can all agree that Versed is Lion Xanax!
Already done to a large extent.
One thing: Yes, we "use" the dog. But, originally, the dog (or wolf) used US almost as much as we used THEM. Have your pets spayed or neutered and be sure to donate to - or volunteer at - your local shelter. (ok now I sound like Drew Carey...)
Human civilization would not have developed as quickly without the help of our canine - and later equine - companions.
+garcemac This is why I don't buy the whole vegan shtick. Our relationship with such animals has by symbiotic for millenia.
Its only with the advent of industrial farming that it can be said these animals are being exploited.
Am I the only one who loves that shirt?
what about the Siberian domesticated foxes? they started in like, the 50s I think (don't actually remember). they where able to breed a domesticated Fox much faster than they expected. was this just because of the purposeful nature of the project, or are they not actually fully domesticated?
+ADreaMarie Its not that its impossible to domesticate these animals-its just hard or impractical-especially for early humans with less technology. In today's world however, we can pretty much domesticate anything if we really want to but there is no point to domesticating some of these animals.
+ADreaMarie Foxes reproduce really quickly, so that certainly helped for breeding programs.
yes but have you seen them? ^_^
ADreaMarie Yes. Foxes are very cute. Especially when they do that jump-pounce thing.
+KingLink95 Still, not even the best zoologists could domesticate zebras or african elephants...
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I strongly believe that some animals are laughing at this video in the parallel universe
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I strongly believe a smart version of you exists in a parallel universe.
+Basically Comedy I strongly believe there is a planet of marshmallows trying to invade us from a parallel universe.
i read in a natgeo issue about a group of russian researchers tried to domesticate foxes. they select the most docile ones and mate them. over 3-4 generations they get foxes as docile as any dog (they even wag tails and demand belly rubs) . this experiment may proves that by selective breeding, some previously-considered wild animals can eventually be domesticated
they also breed the absolute vicious foxes by mating the most violent of the bunch
i had a pet lion we found him when he was a cub as he got older we gave him to a zoo in victoria tx
Bonus points for mentioning Hannibal and his war elephants twice. Thank you for this video!
I’m picturing putting two cheetahs on treadmills to fulfill their long distance running courtship ritual.
somebody has been watching CGP grey :P
+Samuel Gabites To be fair he may have read Guns germs and steal, the book CGP got it from.
I like the way the host sounds like he's been drinking since 10am but is handling it well
You can accuse him of being drunk but you must admire his tenacity
I wish there was more informative young adults like your self. Thank you.
One point missing(of why some animals cannot be domesticated) is that some animals run/walk/migrate miles and miles, which makes it even bad to tame them.
Great video TestTube. Really educational.
We need tigers I think we could Domestic them. If we got a good blood line.
Tigers can be docile at times, but there are also aggressive tigers out there.
And the Deer was basically reverse tamed because we recently started hunting them A LOT
i have an American x English staff and he is incredibly obedient and inquisitive never seen an animal so loyal
we are already doing foxes do your research.
Yup
But interestingly, when you start domesticating foxes, they start to slowly look more and more un-fox-like and similar to dogs as the fox generations in captivity go by.
LB yeah it's pretty cool how mainly they're derivative from red foxes but now are gray , white and other colors.
$elfishbeats
With modern tech they are talking about with ancient tech
Like a cheetah they tried to domesticate them
He said wolves bro
Interesting topic! The only thing I have to point out is that your statement at 2:10 "lions eat meat and for us that is hard to provide because we need it for ourselfs" - FALSE. Im sick of this pro-meateating culture that takes their own opinion and shows it as facts.
Look I found a vegan
Are bees domesticated. We breed them for improved Honey production. Is there a distinct difference between a domesticated bee and a wild bee?
probably not much different because they haven't evolved as new species like cats and dogs
+kennedy brantley What about African killer bees? When I was a kid in the 1970's, we were afraid African killer bees would make it across Mexico and turn our local bee populations against us. Are African killer bees the true un domesticated bee untouched by centuries of European cultivation?
There is an African animal that got domesticated: cats!
Ancient Egyptians domesticated cats to protect their crops from mice and rats...All domesticated cats have this common African cat ancestor.
I would argue that a housecat is not TRULY domesticated. It’s somewhere between tame and domesticated. Not much separates a housecat from a mountain lion. They are not that far removed from
Also, the fact of the matter is that domestication is more than just befriending a nice animal. It is a lengthy process that utilizes selective breeding that slowly alters the progeny of a once wild species into a more sociable and manageable variation. You still can't really domesticate 'true' wolves, because they don't have the human-friendly traits that were specifically bred into dogs.
We should take less pain as much as we can
Here in Sweden people have tried to tame and domesticate moose over and over again during history. They can be tamed, but they can't really be domesticated because they are jerks when it comes to some parts. For example people have been trying to teach moose to be ridden upon, but they don't like that at all and go crazy. But tamed moose can be really cute and nice towards you. For example there's a moose park about 50 km away from where I live, and I went there two summers ago. The moose where so friendly and wanted to be petted on their heads and backs, but they weren't domesticated because their calves won't know that humans are friendly, you have to teach them that we'll give them food and pet them. But if they continue throughout several generations they may be domesticated one day. :)
well bottlenose dolphins are in process of being domesticated. they are on 3rd generation of being breed in captivity.
I wish we could domesticate cheetahs. They barely survive in the wild as it is. Surely we can do something to make pairs run miles together (set up a bate behind a moving vehicle). Also I'd love to see the black panther domesticated. Love that animal
It took me 15 years to reach adult size. I can relate to the elephants.
I never hit it
+Malaquias Alfaro took me 15 years to give up on reaching adult size
PhilyCheese1494 ha same
I'm a bit confused. What about camels? In the Middle East, they've been breeding camels for centuries. Camels are notoriously foul-tempered, but were also the best animal for migration across deserts. They can survive in environments that would kill a horse. Are Bedouin camels domesticated or merely tamed?
I'm going to get a pet cheetah cuz l live in Pakistan
+Syed Haider I'm going to get a pet Pakistan cuz l live in a cheetah
+Nospoon53189 XD
WTF IS GOING ON OVER HERE!?!? 😂
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I'am from Belgium, and i remember that about fourty years ago there was a program on tv called terloops. There was a family with four or five lions living together with there small childeren. The lions walked free true the house and the garden. They gave them dogfood, witch the lions liked.
What happend later with the annimals i don't know. These days that would be not possible because of the loaw and lions are protected annimals.
Zebras are jerks.. i mean look at those stripes..
I guess the only Lion you can have have as a pet is Lion from Steven Universe. You can even put items inside Lion. Now that is the ultimate form of a domesticated animal.
Check out Konrad Lorenz's breeding of foxes. Selected for non-fear of humans, and for curiosity, they became fox-dogs in six generations, tail-wagging included.
Lorenz's results suggest that other wild species, if they can be selectively bred in captivity, with epigenetics factored in, may be more amenable to domestication than this video claims.
Sad that you covered this topic without the russian project on domesticating foxes.
So it seems this guy thinks that an animal that isn't easily enslaved is a "jerk".
As a Canadian I would have loved it if the Native Americans had Domesticated the Moose.
lots of good points
If i was going to put a polar bear in my movie i would just rent it from cocacola
Elephnts are broken :( that strong bond is fear..
Great explanation Trace!
thanks for another upload!
Regarding pandas... Did they try in vitro with them instead of doing it "naturally"? IMO it would work better mainly because pandas in question wouldn't have any say in the matter. They don't need to like each other, they don't even need to meet each other. It's just that vet makes female panda sleep and when she wokes up, she's pregnant.
I wouldn't consider a wild animal tame just because it isn't afraid of humans. I think that the animal has to go through the taming process to be considered tame. Those animals in the Galapagos are not tame, they are just not naturally afraid of us. Polar bears/tiger sharks/salties aren't generally afraid of humans either, but I wouldn't call any of them tame (unless someone has tamed the particular individual).
My neighbor had a monkey, and I was the only one that close to him. But then he died because the owner tried to took his teeth so he doesn't bite.
I like the presenter's shirt, trolling flat earthers.
Galapagos iguanas do indeed have predators who attack, kill and eat them. They are called snakes.
my uncle used to have a dog that was 1/2 husky , 1/2 alaskan wolf. as trace stated, unfortunately unpredictable animals will crumple you and get put down... :(
I haven't watched the video yet; I just had to get an early comment in!
Speaking of elephants, the original practitioners of muay thai consider themselves to be spiritually connected to elephants and are a big reason we know how to handle them at all. I can't imagine rabbits did well when they were first inside. Also, foxes are being officially domesticated, silver foxes specifically. I feel that domestication isn't wrong inherently if we preserve the species it came from, i'd be in favor of not using animals if we didn't have to, but not for a sentimental reason and rather because if we develop a method that makes it so we don't have to use animals its probably just more efficient. The level we'd have to be at technologically, to me, seems like it's have to be advanced to say the least so it reasons that whatever method we'd be using would be simply better.
Thanks for crushing the dreams I didn't know I had
we actually bred domestic foxes in about 15-17 generations. they look alot like pomeranians. they bred the tamer ones with other tamer foxes and got fluffier more friendly foxes. did the same thing in reverse too. bred the more feral foxes with other feral foxes and that changed their appearance as well. they looked more wild and feral and of course they had a poor disposition .
+KagaiYami domestication still is a process of dozens and hundreds of
generations, but it's easy for some oh-so-educated researchers to tell
people out there that they have domesticated foxes, but changing the
shape and some small behavioural traits within a few decades is NOT
domestication. it's more a kind of adaption to the circumstances. I'm
not saying that I doubt that they will be successful sometime in the
future, but I doubt that they should brag about "having domesticated
foxes" just now already, since this does a lot of harm to these animals.
Look at the internet and at all those people who think they can have a
pet fox easily now, and then look at the foxes that are being abandoned
or mistreated for what they still are - not domesticated and still very
close to being tamed.
Awesome video.
technically we can domesticate any animals but the cost of maintaining those animals are inefficient
So, what animals could we physically domesticate then? What about genetic engineering?
+AP C None of these animals are actually impossible to domesticate-they are just really hard to domesticate and it is pointless to do so.
Misleading title, you can't domesticate big cats but you can have ownership over them.
there is an interesting theory that suggests that just maybe some animals will yield to those who understand them and not just their attributes. To what degree is the animal being domesticated and not the human? There are so many things to consider from the perspective of the animal kingdom that really minimizes our motives which are usually scientific or labor related. You have to admit that when we say domesticate that basically means reprogramming the animal and it's behavior to serve us.
and whether or not that type of service will be deemed fair unto God is thru the conscious balance of the human conducting the domestication
Point #3 can be overcome somewhat with large litter sizes, and then selecting the most friendly ones, as was done by Soviet scientists with silver foxes. As for the horse/zebra thing, that's probably less to do with what's actually possible, and more to do with whether we're willing to spend several centuries on this one project, for a result that will never be able to pay off.
Actually, those foxes cause issues with #1 and #2, they were kept in cages (#1), and for the most part lack real hierarchy (#2), and yet, the Soviets took them from wild to Semi-domesticated in well under a century. The whole project has been running less than 70 years (established in 1948), and yet, look at the results.
+Matthew Marden You fail to realize though that those foxes have also started to show Extreme aggression and violent behavior not seen in wild foxes, also they are being Litter Milled for their Fur, so they are often kept in small cages, with 3 or more in a single one. But you also have to see their body language and general behavior to also know this, and I have watched several documentaries on this one subject.
+Lone Wolf The aggression wasn't something unexpected, they actually deliberately bred the most unfriendly foxes time and again to see what would happen, in the same way the bred the friendliest ones.
love the channel keep it up!
Is it possible to have a pet banana?!
+Peter the Porcupine Yes.
+Peter the Porcupine Why would you want one? After all, they don't live for more than a few weeks at most.
+Peter the Porcupine Bananas are a domesticated fruit, so go for it! Live your dreams!
+Peter the Porcupine There's a guy that records his pet banana every god damn day.
TestTube Plus Nice, what should I call it?
are goldfish domesticated or tamed? or even non of the above?
Cats don't fall into the domesticated category by virtue of the fact they don't have a hierarchy in the wild - yet they are not tamed wild animals either, which ,makes cats pretty unique amongst the animals closely associated with humans
They domesticated us
I'd say there is no difference because it take years of training for any animal to be domesticated
that would had been so faking cool to have a pet cheetah
Elephants are domisticated in India, particulary in the state of Kerala.
apparently we have all the criteria needed for aliens to domesticate humans
they made domestic foxes in a Russian experiment they have developed tail wagging,barking,and bond with their owners unlike a wild fox.
it`s still in taming phase, they are fundamentally same
Well it sounds like we are close or still in the process of domestcating Foxes at least Russia is. But they are expensive as hell and aren't fully domesticated yet.
DNews can you guys do a history on Ancient Egypt
+TestTube Plus TRACE! Trace Dominguez... (Oh crap they told me how to spell your name and I forgot)
Where did you get the shirt you wore in the "What Countries Are Buying The Most Weapons?"
It was red with a black chest patch. I want to buy one just like it but can't find it! :(
Please tell me! I told the people at Test Tube News to ask you but they didn't cause I'm just some random guy on the internet. :(
their not jerks thats just their survival instant that helps them survive when their in the wild (where they belong).
House cats are basically Pygmy lions
If animals have to be nice to domesticate them, then we should also be nice to them to domesticate them.
Could we gene edit wild animals into being domesticated in order to skip the dozens of generations it would take could technology like that be possible in the near future
Informative here and there in parts.Calling wild animals 'assholes' did not sound cool though. But i loved this guy's T-Shirt. Would like to get an online link to purchase a t shirt like this one.
cats while meeting many of these criteria, are not domesticated. they tolerate living with us because we provide food. kitty still has the need to hunt when he can EVEN WHEN WE PROVIDE THEM WITH FOOD AND SHELTER.
nice vid, very informative
With our current facilities and technology could we domesticate other animals so long as they can breed quickly
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