Animal Domestication - Why Some Animals Can't Be Domesticated
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2017
- The domestication of animals has had a huge impact on human history. But have you ever wondered why we've only been able to domesticate some animals and not others?
In this video we look at the six reasons why some animals have never successfully been domesticated, as outlined in the book 'Guns, Germs & Steel' by Jared Diamond. We then look at a Russian experiment which attempted to domesticate silver foxes, to understand how domestication can change an animal.
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imagine herding a pack of tigers
Yeah, that's not how you would domesticate a tiger.
But essentially, any animal that breeds in captivity can be domesticated, it's just a fact.
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They have them in China, not so nice really.
Astronomia anyone?
@@KCandFriendsUSA tiger king anyone?!
That litter box would be terrifying
In case youre interested to what happened to the soviet fox project, most of the last domesticated litter were bought by an American couple who continue their selective breeding to this day. The ones that stayed in Russia were let go and most just died as they couldnt readapt to life in the wilderness but some were saved by some Russians who also continue the experiment.
If the experiments can go on uniterrupted into the future, it isn't hard to imagine that we will have 100% domesticated foxes in I would say about a 100 years or so.
@Mentino wow
So happy that this experiment is continuing. One more century of mass breeding and we can start selling pet foxes for great fortunes!
Wait, I thought we already had domesticated foxes years ago???
would be interesting to know what the final population size was before they abbandoned the project.
Ive heard about a case of reptiles that made significant change in their morphology within months, but I cant find the article anymore, but what im trying to say is that its possible this happens way faster
The problem with this is that the gene pool isn't very diverse and will lead to increased risk of cancers, tumors and abnormalities like 2 tails or blindness0p
We could try to domesticate bears...however it would be rather expensive. Same for tigers too.
Not only expensive but also dangerous
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Its really sad that cheetah breeding in captivity is so hard. They have the same potential has dogs in term of companionship with humans. Helping with hunting. Us protecting their youngs and so on. It shows that it takes just one little criteria to prevent easy domestication. I've seen videos where a guy sleep for some nights with domesticated cheetahs and they're super friendly. Cheetahs would have been really great allies to african tribes as pets.
those cheetahs are tamed, not domesticated
@@whereiswilloww I know they are not domesticated, but i can still dream
I know they are hard to breed in captivity, but so are horses, dogs and cows sometimes. Haven’t people heard of this thing called artificial insemination. It’s practiced a lot these days on both wild and domesticated animals. It’s safer and more effective.
cheetahs are my favourite animals and i hope they can repopulate
i always wanted a pet cheetah lol
Every animal can be pet if given the right time, doesnt have to be a week, month or even a year. But rather it takes a couple of generations.
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@@phatcrayonz , not false. It is theoretically possible to domesticate any and every animal. It just isn't practical to do so, because, as shown in this video, most would be far more trouble than they are worth.
@@phatcrayonz You're wrong. Very wrong.
Redux Gran no. I’m right. You’re wrong.
@@phatcrayonz Well, you're free to keeo believing that. Lul
imagine having big bears and riding them to work
That would be possible if we have domesticated bears, but as said in the video, it is impossible.
Sounds like a normal day of Russia
@@bruhduh9595 which reason? Diet?
@@bruhduh9595 it's just not convenient, not impossible
@@bruhduh9595 not impossible for the modern age but imposible for hunter gatherers
domestication of water buffalo has long been proven in the Philippines, we use them as pack animals, sorting our rice fields and of course the basics which is the source of our food, cloths or even decorations(their head with horn attached) hunged in the walls. Philippine water buffalo really are amazing and trustworthy when it comes to our daily farming operations. Thanks for sharing this video, I just love watching video raisedand based from books. Great job.
"Can't" is wrong, more like would be hard to
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Yeah it's more like some animals are too big, it's just too hard
@@trashcan7140 So what are you guys saying? Laziness is the excuse? If an animal can be tamed and breeds in captivity, they can be domesticated, "too hard" doesn't factor into the equation unless you're trying to get Pandas to fuck!
@@abrahamedelstein4806 you're 100 percent right, all tetrapods could be domesticated if we were to try hard enough, as selective breeding/evolution IS a thing.
@@abrahamedelstein4806 you ever herd of artificial insemination?
This is how cattle is mostly bred these days.
The hippos face, with that music was awesome! It made me laugh!
I expected the Fox experiment to end up going wrong....
This is a good new channel, well done on this work so far. Think it will be a success.
I've always been fascinated by this. While Diamond does have his critics Guns, Germs, and Steel is a brilliant book and I love watching videos that deal with some of the questions raised in the book.
Hope you channel grows. You make great videos.
Thanks Cogito! If you enjoyed the book I'd recommend Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari, which covers similar themes.
This is a great video
I'm terrified of that hippo. He'll poison your drink.
Why don't we have pet velociraptors?
Wouldn't it be the fact that they were extinct?
We do, they are called chicken, they were about the size of them too, unless you were content getting your dino data from Jurassic Park.
@@warrior7038 man woooooooooooooosh it is
@@abrahamedelstein4806 then we have.... fat slowrapitors ?
it will be like try to tame hawks.or eagles
I wonder what a domesticated human would be like. Lots of jumping, running, hugging and floppy ears?
It's against the freedom in our society, but it's interesting to theorize about.
what would humans be domesticated by? I think they are already very domestic as they meet the six criteria so maybe not all that different
@@shadowcween7890 I was thinking about aliens
No, actually there is a hyphothesis about humans domesticated themselves.
@@zeff8820 I mean domesticated in a way where we take on a pet-like role instead of rulers of our own society.
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Great videos mate! Keep up the good work !
During my interest and research into this subject one thing that I read that stood out and summed up potential domestication was....there has to be a natural mutual benefit to both the human and the animal. Some animals dont want or need humans in order to live an easier life. Some animals realized human interaction was the path of least resistance for survival and evolution. On the flip side, some animals don't have any benefit to humans or don't provide increased human efficiency in terms of productivity. It boils down to whether or not both parties will be better off or not.
Now if we could genetically modified elephants and giraffes to be only 12 inches tall
Two question, what? And, why would you do that?
@@cookiecakeeater6340 We have horses. This would just be a more interesting version of a horse 🤷🏿
Müd horses are way taller than a foot, have you ever been around a horse before?
Well, I guess if you wanted to, you could selectively breed some giraffes for thousands of years, and let you 305th grandson own a 25 foot giraffe, and be famous.
many millions of years ago there was a species of dwarf elephant that you could have kept in your home
The Romans thought of aurochs as dangerous, wild and too much trouble to deal with... yet they were domesticated to become cattle thousands of years before that. Beginning in Anatolia. The foxes were domesticated to the point that they have become pets. I think any species can be domesticated. Why do it though? These animals have no function beyond being exotic pets.
I mean tbf, imagine training gorillas or chimpanzees for combat
Like imagine a gorilla or a bear, in armor going around just attacking mf’s burglars or shit.
Shits terrifying, but not useless.
I’m kind of late but if there was an animal that wasn’t a mammal that hit all the requirements to be domesticated could we domesticate it? For example a bird, arthropod or reptile?
It all depends on the intelligence. Maybe parrots could be domesticated, but most reptiles brains aren't evolved enough to be domesticated.
Imagine being the first guy to almost domesticate a herd of gazelles then a tree branch breaking sends the whole herd fleeing away at 50 mph never to be seen again 😮
Why does it seem like most the people in the comments actually wanted to watch this, but there’s none that are here for school
Even shaolin monks have many domesticated big cats
None of the social characteristics apply to cats...
In theory we could have dog like breeds of other wolves, like an arctic wolf. Or more fox breeds
You can domesticate ANYTHING using the Soviet Method. It just would take many years with certain species like guerrillas
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Imagine a lamb gang war over turf
But donkeys bite, kick. They live in Africa and have to deal with the same habitat as zebra.
What made donkeys different?
Zebra live in huge groups with a fluid hierarchy.
Donkeys live in small groups with a solid hierarchy.
Wonder if in the future a genome lab can remove the predator part of the animal and just leave the docile parts
Didn any1 hear of that guy who was raising a lion since it was a cub only for the lion to attack him?
Man’s best friend is the cat
Hyenas cannot be domesticated. Don't even try to tame a hyena, unless you have a death wish. Harley Quinn's domesticated hyena is a "fictional character".
cool video
02:48 Looks like gazelle is my spirit animal 😐.
Bunnies panic, but we domesticated them. Of course, they’re also really small
I agree😂
Imagine if we can domesticate bears.
I think kangaroos would be a good candidate. The only hurdle might be the flight response but I feel they are less flighty than a sheep. They breed easily, grow fast and eat anything grass which is why they are so overpopulated. They are edible. Those bred in a petting zoo are more well behaved than most dogs. They can be kept in captivity easily.
They live in a herd, have a hierarchy and as far as I know territories overlapping isn't too much of a problem.
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"no mammalian carnivore has ever been domesticated for food" but that's not actually true, dogs have - we don't eat dog in the modern global north, but there's absolutely a history of dogs being raised for food in addition to other purposes in several world cultures
Imagine being a German Wehrmacht soldier in the winter of 1944 defending your position and then the Soviets roll up riding on fucking bears
Cheetahs don't have a social hierarchy so even if they could be bread in captivity they'd still be impossible to domesticate. We should domesticate crows!! their social structure is similar to ours and to that of wolfs and wild dogs. They be far more helpful then pigeons ever were. They're very smart, we just need a way to make them sedentary like pigeons are.
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It’s more than just a robotic need for food
Or you could just breed the friendlier animals of that species until you get a more pet like animal. It’s what Russia did with domesticated fox.
My exact thoughts, it could be still hard tho
There are some things that are more difficult to breed into an animal.
E.g. hierarchy. A dog is loyal because wolves have hierarchies where individuals from a gender are ranked and the lower ones are generally subservient. The one on top is the alpha...and usually, the others are loyal. The entire pack is loyal.
The domesticated dog thinks it's still in a pack. The owner is usually the alpha (in some cases the dog thinks it's the alpha and does what it wants when the owner is incompetent).
Horses are similar. They follow the leader (the alpha) without question.
This is where domesticated foxes are different from dogs. Like cats, they don't have that same loyalty, etc.
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You'll be laughing until you're being chased by one, they can and will bite a crocodile in half. Imagine what they'll do to you.
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I realized that if we were eating hyenas and ligers and other big cats instead of cows pigs and chickens that meat consumption who not be sustainable
tendency
I want a pet great white shark.
GIVE US DOMESTICATED BEARS NOW
I wanna do that experiment on otters
Cuz I REALLY want a pet otter
You can try to get a mink or ferret
same
That's it, I want my battle buddy gorilla damnit
Zebras are too dangerous to domesticate? bro never heard of wolves
Guns Germs and Steel is just incorrect. It is replete with incorrect statements.
Well actually the foxes are tame towards humans and don't mind if u hold and stroke them ect but unlike dogs they are not born with the super eagerness to be man's best friend and if u put a domesticated fox near u in a bedroom sized cage it will tolerate u well and give u a little sniff to get to understand the person they are with and u can pet and stroke them but then just wonder and do their thing. Dogs however when put in that same cage the will immediately (not every dog obvs) jump on u and start licking u and then eventually rest *right beside u* when tired
Zebras have been domesticated! They were used for pack animals in world ware tow.
@Caesar Perhaps but the problem is that they said you could use zebras for pack animals.
I think eventually bears will be domesticated. Maybe not in our lifetime but it will eventually happen.
You got some things wrong as most people do in this subject. However, the one thing you really got wrong is the fact that you claim dogs were domesticated from wolves. That is not true at all. It is like saying that the Diare Wolf (yes, I probably spelled that wrong 🤷♀️) were wolves when infact they were not! Also, elephants fit the domesticated animals according to science as they have been raised, bred and trained to be ridden, work in forests, used for wars and as livestock for 100s of years. All of which is used to determine if an animal is domesticated.
Yea elephants have been domesticated, but not to the level of obedience a dog might have.
I'm pretty sure elephants are bred and domesticated on a similar level as horses.i think a rhino would be a better point
Elephants are mostly captured and tamed individually. They are very close to domesticated...but not yet.
They breed outside captivity.
Horses are like cats. They can easily survive and even trive without humans. If you stop feeding your cat, it will probably survive.
There are wild horses left by German colonists in the Namib desert in Southern Africa, that have somehow adapted to survive in a harsh climate where even local animals struggle to survive.
An elephant would never be able to survive in such a climate. And keeping it alive in captivity is difficult.
It's why horses were domesticated in the first place. They were easier than cattle or sheep to keep alive during winter in the Steppes...and provided food during the winter.
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Corn is something cows shouldn't eat
The civilized human is domesticated so he can pay taxes
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Which is why no carnivore animal has been domesticated? What about wolves?
For livestock purposes
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It seems like it’s all about programming..
It would take many many generations but you can domesticate most things as long as they do have certain higher brain function
Elephants are actually domesticated
We should develop animal mind control with a type of mask or something
This video is looking at from modern times . “No space “ that’s comical we had acres of land across the world we can easily domesticate a animal if we want but it would just take to long thousand years too much will be wasted
Well it's getting harder and harder given the fact that more and more humans are born every day meaning more houses needed more food stores needed more places need to grow food more space needed to make clothes electricity etc there is just no space
He pronounced Zebra as Zebra
Bro how did you do that?
domestication of water buffalo has long been proven in the Philippines, we use them as pack animals, sorting our rice fields and of course the basics which is the source of our food, cloths or even decorations(their head with horn attached) hunged in the walls. Philippine water buffalo really are amazing and trustworthy when it comes to our daily farming operations. Thanks for sharing this video, I just love watching video raisedand based from books. Great job.
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