ASOIAF Theory 💀 The Greyscale Kings Under Winterfell - Part III: Stone Heroes
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- This video is part 3 of a series containing my theory for the upcoming book in the A Song of Ice and Fire series, The Winds of Winter, surrounding the secret of Winterfell crypts, and ultimately, the key to defending humanity against the coming onslaught of the Others
I believe that Azor Ahai and the Last Hero were not only the same person, but they were also a Stark, and the magic this Stark hero gained from the Children of the Forest to help defeat the Others, was the ability to be sacrificed, turned to stone and resurrected through the Weirwoods, creating a group of undead stone warriors that would come to be known as the Nights Watch
With their stone skin becoming a magical protective armour that warded the wearer from harm, while also preserving their bodies as statues after the war for the dawn has been won, to be stored behind the collapsed wall in the Winterfell crypts as the stone kings of winter, waiting for the horn that wakes the sleepers
And I think George is foreshadowing that this is the case through his Azor Ahai/Last Hero parallel characters in the series, giving them resurrected stone warrior symbolism, just like the stone kings of winter foreshadowed to rise from the crypts….
💀 Timestamps:
- 0:00 - Intro
- 1:29 - Beric Dondarrion
- 5:17 - Stannis Baratheon
- 10:07 - Daenerys Targaryen
- 14:35 - Jon Snow
- 21:50 - Waymar Royce
- 33:15 - Stone Titan
- 37:35 - Outro
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I think this stream of ideas has massive potential. I thought we'd reached the deepest level of ASOIAF lore already, but I think youre really onto something that nobody really touches on: the greyscale / stone symbolism. There are more places to go with this too. I hope youll do videos on the following matters:
1. Greyscale and Age. Its deadly if you get it old, but you recover if you get it young. This surely means something symbolic ... Or will demand certain actions. Could it be that if the ideal undead is Greyscaled, then could that demand that the person be infected as young as possible ? So the greyscale comes to stasis within their body, so it dosent overwhelm them? Thus, in the Long Night (1 or 2) the humans would have to create a custom of exposing their babies and children to Greyscale, so that later they can become zombies. This would be good, as it would place limitations on the number of zombies that can be made. If just anyone can be resurected as a fire-wight, and THEN infected, then it becomes quite easy to resurect an army. But, if only grey-scale children could become perfect wights, then that is a severe limitation. Perhaps it will only progress in a living person, and then it freezes at that level of stonification when they die.
2. The origin of greyscale. Greyscale was said to be created by the Rhoynar, as Garins curse. Whats the symbolic message here?
3. Greyscale and water. Water and dryness has something to do with this disease. It was made by a Water People, the Rhoynar, and its characterised by dryness ... its water themed? The Greyscaled people Tyrion meets are often in water, I beleive, so theres something going on there.
4. Grey King. Could this be a reference to the Last Hero or similar? Wasnt there somethign about him granting a boon to whomever could make him laugh? And his legend was about kissing a womans statue and bringing her to life? What does this have to do with resurection?
5. Argoth Stone-Skin. He loved Maris the maid, but lost her to Uthor of the High Tower. Who was this. The last hero? A left over stonified wight giant ? Who desired a human / CotF woman that was married to a human instead?
I’ll actually be covering a lot of this in part 4 and part 5, as the gods the children worship are said to be of Forrest, stream and stone
Forrest meaning the old gods and the worship of the trees, stream meaning gods of water and stone perhaps meaning gods of stone, we hear of the children “having shaped stone with their magic” and the trees they worship even turn to stone, it’s my thoughts that greyscale is a magical disease of the children, we even hear of a CotF as being called “scales”, perhaps George is being clever in saying Greyscale is not mortal in “children” maybe also meaning Children of the Forrest
And the Grey king and the iron born is all part 5, as I think the Grey king might have been a stark progenitor
These are all great points and I’d love to hear your thoughts on this as my next script isn’t quite finished and I’m still researching the subject
@@eldric.stoneskin Brilliant ideas! Ive been in the fandom for 10 years and I have never heard any connection between CotF and greyscale, but there is something there! I would add that Greyscale came from Garins curse, to repel Valyrians, right ? So that means the real 'Garin event' must have involved CotF people (likely the Rhoynar are CotF hybrids, as they have female equality, sexual liberty and are extinct). The Children (or children people) unleashing a curse from their natural resource to kill invaders, but it backfired and killed the users as well - Greyscale - is exactly the same as the idea that the Cotf created Others as a weapon against invading man, but they went wrong and turned against children too. 'Garin' could be another form of the name 'Garth'. I never noticed how similar those two stories are! Others must derive from the magic of trees, while Greyscale must derive from the magic of the River ...
This will sound strange but I think all this has to have to do with the Moon.. I dont know if you are familiar with David Lightbringers 'Moon Meteor Long Night' theory ? The Moon is relevant to the CotFs gods of 'Forest, stone and water', because the Weirwoods are said to be white as the moon, are described as reaching or scratching at the moon, Weirwoods turn to stone when dead, and the godhead within the weirwoods is the 'Green sea' (there are lots of Weirwood=sea references). Also the Moon is made of stone, and exerts pressure over the water.
If we accept that roughly the CotF unleashed Greyscale as a defense for invaders, then that makes it parallell if not identical to the unleashing of the Others, which happened at or within the Long Night, yes? And the Long Night was caused by moon meteors showering down and hitting the Forest, the Land and the Water. Its suggesting to me that Greyscale is like 'the essence of death' that exists like a form of radiation in certain places (Iron Islands, Dragonstone, Sorrows), much like there is a malefic aura around places like Yeen and Ashai, like some curse or radiation. Its 'stone' theme is not terrestrial, but lunar, emanating from lunar stone.
So basically, Greyscale came from the Weirwoods, in the sense that the Children summoned a weapon (form the magic of their weirgods), which resulted in the moon meteors falling, which brought floods, and a cursed zombie radiation on the meteors.
Additionally, the moon is likely to be of religious importance to the CotF. Their slit eyes indicate they are notcturnal. Martin is porbably basing this off tolkienesque elves, who are 'people of the moon' in comparison to man being 'of the sun'.
@@umwha Yes I am familiar with LmLs content, he's one of the OGs and I was a squisher for quite some time, and it think your right it does have to do with the moon
But I think the moon references are all referring to a woman that granted this gift of death and life, think the weirwood sacrifice woman with white hair and her sickle blade, with the sickle moon in the same chapter symbolising the passage of time being given lots of attention as well, and this white haired woman had the ability to "live beneath the sea or above it" sea meaning the greensea concept you'd be familiar with
And I think this white haired woman was a child of the forrest somehow, as just before bran tastes the blood from this white haired woman sacrifice he's actually given blood to drink by a white haired child of the forrest, in a bowl with 12 faces on it giving us the last hero number yet again
Who I think was given this same paste by that white haired woman with the sickle blade as well, to awaken their greenseeing powers so they could slip inside the trees and "live beneath the sea" before being reborn, just as Azor Ahai is said to be reborn from the sea, and the Titan of Braavos awakes from the sea, and the Grey King (another stone hero who turned grey before residing beneath the sea) was reborn from the sea, rising again harder and stronger
Who also takes a mermaid to bride, a woman who could "live beneath the sea or above it", like the weirwood woman yet again
Which compares well to Ned Stark, who married a "mermaid" (Catelyn being a Tully making her fish woman) and their children, (especially Bran) who can "live beneath the sea or above it" as well
Which is what I think the first Stark in that weirwood vision of Brans was doing, marrying a white haired moon associated woman so he could "wed to the tree" allowing him and his descendants to enter the weirwood net, so they could live in the greensea/weirwood realm for thousands of years and be reborn into preserved stone bodies, therefore gaining the ability to win the war for the dawn from the Children of the Forrest
@@eldric.stoneskin Yeah I totally agree that a marriage of CotF and man is fundamental and has many symbolic layers. The stone stuff seems slight tangential to all that.
I used to think the ‘grey, hard, stonelike’ references just referred to a reanimated person being pale, dead, numb, unyielding. More like ice than stone. The thing that makes me think there is a literal ‘turn to stone’ element is this notion of a flaming sword. I imagine the true light bringer to be brighter and hotter than normal fire. Thus when Jon uses Lightbringer , he is exposed to more heat than a normal person can stand. As well as more cold due to the others. Being stone is necessary to cope with this because a normal corpse or ice-zombie would be weak to fire.
Yes that’s exactly right, being made of stone would make you the perfect warrior to survive the winter, survive the wights and be a champion of fire
Man this is fantastic, feels like I’ve discovered the next big theory channel right at the beginning! Excellent work sir
Thanks! Really appreciate that mate!
Xaro Xhoan Daxos also calls the Unsullied "watered by blood"
Great find! Only adds to the stone warriors of a Azor ahai being under a weirwood like the stone kings, with the weirwood above them requiring blood from Ned cleaning Ice beneath the heart tree and the weirwood/bran “drinking the blood” during the weirwood sacrifice vision, excellent observation!
I am half way through so apologies if you cover this but... I guess you are going to cover this in part IV. The sleeping heroes tradition is such a good spot. The folklore of Britain is so important to GRRM - just thinking off the top of my head the sleeping heroes under hills include King Arthur, Merlin, Harry Hotspur, Owain Glyndŵr, King Harold, Sir Walter Raleigh, Sir Francis Drake and from Welsh folklore Bran the Blessed.
I think Harry Hotspur is the most interesting one here - because he was a renowned soldier and a son of the Percy family the big power in Northern England. They lived and live in the fantastic Alnwick Castle to this day. He was said to have been hunting when he and his hounds got holed-up in a hole in the ground and there still awaiting the sound of a hunting horn to awaken them from their slumber.
Hi, I haven’t mentioned this yet but i do have some of this in my next script, however I have never heard of the horn association with Harry Hotspur! I will have to do some more research! Excellent observation Abi S!
@@eldric.stoneskin Thanks Eldric and thank you for the great vids! 🙂
When Lady Catelyn describes Stannis' army as Grey, it could be another reference to House Stark whose colors are white and grey and are said to have grey eyes like chips of ice.
Yes that’s exactly right! George is basically showing us Azor Ahai leading an army of grey soldiers as you’ve said, and knowing there’s a grey army foreshadowed to rise beneath Winterfell, it makes sense that AA has something to do with leading them! Great pick up!
Another part still to come??? Man, this is an incredible theory and set of videos. Simply a Masterclass
Thanks! There’s actually 3 more to come! So we’re about half way with this series
I had almost forgotten about the Stone Dragon reference. A resurrected Jon Snow, Greyscale, and Kings Blood is a fascinating connection that could be true...and bringing it all together would be a work of genius.
I am loving this series. It is not just fascinating, but it is a clever view of the material I haven't heard before. Kudos Eldric, well done. Keep up the great work.
Really appreciate that mate! Cheers 🍻
Every time you post a video it’s everything i hope for and then some. Not trying to give you a big head and all dat but I think you’ve definitely found your niche. Now if you could just get them coming out every week or every other week 👌🏾😍 lolol
Haha I wish, these have taken a lot of work to get together and my job is getting in the way lol, glad your enjoying it tho, aiming to release on the 30th of each month with 3 more videos to come!
This is by no means the only remarkable thing about your AMAZING and GENIUS series but gosh, BOTH Arya and Sansa getting to be 'the Titan's daughter' at some point, I am so sure that that is intentional! Wow, that's so amazing and I am sure you are hitting the nail on the head. This content is too underrated! Your theory is the first one to bring together the motifs of giants waking out of stone, dragons waking out of stone, the Starks, the explanation of the Others' weird behaviour in the prologue, and why it was a Royce who faced them...I am 100% onboard and I'll now go back to your video.
Yeah the titans daughter with both stark girls is pretty unreal, glad your enjoying it!
You are giving David Lightbringer a run for his money with these theories are videos. Great job.
Thanks very much!
I really like where you are taking this. What’s about all the stone gargoyles at Winterfell and Dragon Stone, I wonder if they will be awaken as well?
I think these stone dragons are representing the stone kings beneath winterfell as well, I think Azor Ahai is one of these stone kings and he was an ancient dragonlord too, Janice why we hear rumours of “dragons under Winterfell” as well, just as Jon Snow is the next Azor ahai, who I theorise will be turned to stone to sit beneath winterfell until the next long night, making him a “dragon under Winterfell” as well
Was looking for this yesterday. Knew it would be coming out soon. Can’t wait to listen.
Hope you enjoy!
My god I love this series, amazing to hear new fresh ideas in the fandom!
Cant wait to watch part 3!
Thanks for creating and uploading this series, I'm enjoying these videos. Keep up the great work ;-)
Your welcome! Glad your enjoying them!
Well I’m sold! This shits crazy
Haha glad to hear it!
I always thought it made more sense for Mel to sacrifice Shireen for Jon's resurrection, as opposed to the shows interpretation.
Plus the free folk don't like Shireen and want to kill her anyway. I bet they help Melisandre do it since the Queens Men would supposedly be against it
Exactly, as Val said she’s already a dead girl and sees her as a huge danger to everyone, not too many people left at the wall would stop Melisandre now Jon has died
@@eldric.stoneskin i want to see what role patchface plays, i mean the drowned god i bet wouldent mind fing with what ever mel is playing at just for fun
@@scubasam4255 patchface is definitely a wild card, wondering if he jumps into the funeral pyre as well, I’m guessing it’s going to parallel Danys funeral Pyre, and Drogo who was in the pyre has “bells in his hair” just like Patchface has bells on his head as well
I'm sure your already aware of this but in the Arianne sample champter, she finds a limestone cave that has pillars with CotF faces carved into them. This is surely relevant to these stone theories? Are those real CotF people who have turned to stone? Simialrly, when Cersei goes into the Sept(when shes captured), there is an underground room she is taken to that has carved stone faces of the seven on the wall. I thought that was quite anomalous. I speculate that this hill was previoulsy a hill of the CotF, who carved faces into this interior chamber. Then the Sept was built on top later, and the faces were just then converted into the seven.
Yes I’ve got the stone figures from the Arianne chapter in the next episode, they seems to worship stone quite a lot, great point about the sept and their faces, I hadn’t thought about that, it also reminds me of the house of black and white which has obvious ties to the old gods and has a room full of faces beneath the earth staring out, in fact when Arya tries her first face on she feels like she’s being choked by hands of stone as well from memory
@@eldric.stoneskin I've always liked the idea that face-carving was not a CotF thing, it was what humans did in imitation of the CotF. This was a David Lightbringer idea as well. Imposing your own image on a natural object is very egotistical of man, and the trees with faces seem tortured. So if the CotF did not carve weir faces, would thye carve stone faces?
Perhaps heres the answer: Humans tried to imitate the CotF religion. They did this by carving human faces on Weirwood trees, to aid the 'personificaiton' of the trees, and help them put their consciousness inside it. The CotF also worshipped natural stone. The humans then carved faces into stone to personify them. The humans then however, succumbed to idol worship - where thye worship the singular Weirwood trees as gods, and worship carved stone statues as idols or gods. This is a perversion, becuse the real God Energy is beyond any single tree or stone, it pervades all nature :The Green sea. But humans are blind to this and worhsip stone idols - which is why we see humans venerating stone statues so much.
John is totally going to kill Melisandre when he learns that she burned Stannis' daughter to resurrect him.
He'll stab Mel through the heart and she'll cry out in both pain and extesy as she realizes she's Nisanisa. Mel's blood will totally make John's sword catch fire.
Hey I like that idea! Was thinking Jon would really struggle with the idea of a child’s death paying for his life, but yeah he could totally take that out on Mel hey, great catch!
These just keep getting better! Keep it up bro!
Cheers 🍻
This is a fascinating series. Every time you upload the next part, I re-watch the series from the beginning (wish we could upvote repeat viewings!). And I’m *really* interested in your next installment on the CotF. Notifications are on! 😊👍
Thankyou very much! Glad your enjoying the series! Should be 3 more videos to go…
I am absolutely in love with this theory and I really hope that this does lead somewhere. There's so much of it that makes sense. In the general aspect of all things.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great video Eldric
Thanks Paul! 🍻
I'm really enjoying where this theory and series is going and i like the way you present your evidence. Easy to see why and where you draw these ideas from
Thanks very much!
Another great video!
Cheers 🍻
What a haunting series of ideas!
Thanks!
Spot on! Fantasic theory, likey correct, imo. So good.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I don't know about Jon contracting Grayscale. Yes Jon shares a name with Lord Connington, but he was named after Jon Arryn, who I don't believe has any stone symbolism attached to him.
Jon is a dragon, but I think that he will be a 'stone dragon' because he'll be frozen solid from being stored in the icy cells built into the wall.
Amazing
This is very interesting. I had heard people toss around the idea that the stone statues in the crypts would come to life. But it was always very loosey goosey, so I didn't think much about it. But hearing the idea told this way, and with this level of depth, it feels like it will really happen.
Thanks! Yeah the idea is very clear through out the texts, still three more parts to go too!
@@eldric.stoneskin Yeah echoing this, its really well drawn together stuff.
I never really thought about greyscale as important, but it's definatelly another Chekhov's gun. Perhaps the shrouded lord saw some visions and is preparing for the ln.
You're spoiling me. Great job!🎉🎉🎉 I have a ton of questions
Your welcome! Cheers 🍻
Ask away if you’ve got any questions, love theorising haha
@@eldric.stoneskin what had lead you to believe that Azor Ahai and The Last Hero are the same person?
@@alexishenry4434 I think they're the same person because both of them are associated with ending the long night and both of their stories involve having broken swords before gaining a magical sword used to defeat the Others, one of these stories seems to be an eastern memory of the long night hero, while the other is a northern memory of the long night hero
Azor Ahai also seems to be the name for this hero, much like Eldric Shadowchaser might be his Westerosi name, while "the Last Hero" seems to be more of a title or role that Eldric Shadowchaser/Azor Ahai might have been remembered as, while the last Heroes sword of "dragon steel" Sam tells us about, might have been the northern memory of Lightbringer
Several Azor Ahai's....brilliant. Everyone's right.
Welcome to the mountain top. Keep on swinging those fists. You've a place that high up.
Technically, Jon also has a burning (burnt) sword. He only received it after Lord Commander Mormont found it after the fire in the Lord Commander's Tower.
In this case it also speaks for Jon as Azor Ahai.
Very true!
I think the mocking of the Others comes as they realise the Night's Watch are no longer invulnerable stone men and can in fact be hurt. This gives the Others the confidence to push south, as they know the enemy is no longer unbeatable.
Yes that’s a very good point, very well said! Great comment
Makes you wonder if the Others have prophecy....
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Ive watched the previous 2 videos in this series and im to the Unsullied and Danaerys part of this one.
So far, there have been several excellent observations about coded language and plot threads teased, but I also think that not every adjective pertaining to stone, hardness, or durability is part of that cipher.
You could be right but I think there’s far too many examples of statues coming to life, and statues beneath winterfell foreshadowed to come to life, in combination with a disease that turns people to stone for it not to be relevant
@eldric.stoneskin I agree with almost all of your observations. And I appreciate that you combed through mountains of text to find these gems. That's a lot of time and effort worthy of a true detective.
However, I do think that some descriptions of a character rising up like a Boulder come to life in the case of the mountain men, or Stannis being a "hard" man are more figurative descriptions rather than literal.
Although, it would be much cooler if I was wrong. :)
I have to wonder... the others are said to be like white shadows - so I try to figure out the opposite to the shadow warriors Mellisandre creates. They last longer (cold preserves), but they seem to be made of similar stuff - white shadow warriors. When the darkness casts a "light-dow"... or something like that. So these are creatures of the God of Death/Darkness. It would be fitting for the God of Light/Fire to somehow equip the living with a way to fight/defeat such creatures.
Yeah it’s very Yin Yang, the darkness having white shadows on their side, while the light has dark shadows on their side, it is like a complete inversion, like a mirror image, which is interesting because the others are called “Twins to the first” with a twin being a perfect reflection, great points!
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@@eldric.stoneskin hey quick question do you like any manga?
Yeah I have liked some, probably more so Anime over the years, I really enjoyed anything Full Metal Alchemist, such an amazing story
@@eldric.stoneskin would love to hear your thoughts man I loved fma. I personally think you might enjoy bleach it's quite good.
Another excellent installment my man can't wait for part 4 but i was wondering if you mean jon will actually get greyscale or is it being resurrected that gives the magic armour?
I think they work in conjunction somehow, i think he will catch it so he becomes a stone king in the crypts for thousands of years, and the resurrection process or a seperate process involving runes like we see with House Royce might be involved too
I like the random reverb you when you said "containing tin" sandwiched between the regular narration. Probably unnecessary, but it made it sound so ominous.
Yeah I forgot to take that out lol
@@eldric.stoneskin I liked it, it made me smile
A flurry of blows, eh? Others have monk levels confirmed
I think if a person has greyscale , would t it reduce mobility by stiffening skin and locking joints .
Yes your right, I don’t think these stone warriors will be very quick or mobile by any means, I think their greatest asset will be brute strength, and the ability to not be torn apart by Wights
@@eldric.stoneskin Im having a hard time imagining it. The Greyscaled people we've seen were shambling. Im interpretation was that the only reason they could move at all is because there were some flesh parts not yet stone. But, if the reanimated people are infected with greyscale for years, or thoudands of years in the case of the old Last Hero. I dont understand why they would have any mobility left at all. Even if they could shuffle, they would hardly be capable of fighting.
Completely off topic but these vids got me thinking about this story again.
Has anyone done a video or written a good summary comparing westeros to Antarctica?
Particularly in regards to how Antarctica is thought to have become a cold climate because the land bridge connecting it to the Americas broke and the new water currents changed the climate.
This seems parallel to how the children of the Forest were said to have destroyed the land bridge connecting wessos to the larger continent.
There's a potential that the first long night was caused by the natural change in climate and the others were just a byproduct.
Like everything the modern characters are dealing with are the results of this old war between the children the giants and the first men.
Yeah you could be right, I’m not sure about direct comparisons to Antarctica but Company of the Cat put out a great video a few weeks on the Hammer of the waters and the impact it had on the ocean level, was a great video
@@eldric.stoneskin thanks. I'll take a look.
And the "broken" sword Ice of the current storyline
Exactly right! And when Ice is “broken” in two the new swords have red colouring through the steel, making them a red sword like Lightbringer, the red sword of heroes too, and both of those swords light on fire in Jamie’s dream too
Now we just need a metal band to make a concept album based on this theory!
I actually did make an album for this theory!
ruclips.net/p/PLtzjjTo47mTPl_uqtX3g8xF6eWwBV195v
@@eldric.stoneskin excellent! Thank you for sharing this, I appreciate it. 😊
@@eldric.stoneskin all the talking about Kings of Winter also reminded me of The Sword. I recommend their Age of Winters 😁
Thanks for taking the time to respond and enjoy your day!
@@Tiffany-6910 I love The Sword! Gods of the Earth is an amazing album! To take the black is how I heard of them
@@eldric.stoneskin I didn’t even know about that song! I discovered the sword long before asoiaf, but I’m not the greatest keeping up with new releases. Thank you for letting me know about this. I actually had them in mind for this imaginary concept album. I guess that just proves how good my idea really was! Ha! Thanks for music info. Will check it out as well. 🕊️
And Jon is also killed like Waymar...cold butchery
Very true!
Excellent work. I hope this theory is true. One issue:
Bravos was founded by escaped slaves from Valeria, no? How would they know about reanimated stone warriors from Westeros?
I think this animated stone warrior was Azor Ahai, who is known across the world by different names and this is one memory of the hero who saved the world just as the Last Hero is the westerosi memory of this hero
So far, I really love this... I don't think the stone is literal though, personally... But you're very convincing.
I do have one question, though: you seem to believe Jon Snow is son of Rhaegar... So... How is he supposed to contract grayscale? Isn't he immune to disease if R+L=J?
I always thought the Bran vision is seeing his skin get hard as all warmth left him was because he's dead (warmth leaving) and his skin becoming hard (because he's in the ice cells, where Mel will hold him). And his being the stone dragon because he's dead and frozen, or maybe the grayscale waking up, or both... But not a Targaryen catching a virus...
I dunno. I'm loving the videos so far though, great insight
Yeah I could be wrong, it’s just a theory but I’m pretty convinced haha
I don’t think the Targs are immune to greyscale however, if they are blood of the dragon literally, we’ve already seen Danys dragons waking from literal stone eggs so there might be some connection there
Once again just a theory to keep us going till TWOW
@@eldric.stoneskin WELL it's a pretty good theory, and pretty insightful. You've also laid out evidence really well and they're pretty snappy videos
Haha like I said, you're pretty effin convincing.
I'm honestly impressed, thanks for your hard work, and I'm looking forward to your proving me wrong!
@@eldric.stoneskin you know what? Maegelle Targaryen died of greyscale, so fuck me dead, my last bit of "this can't be real, can it?" Evidence is gone. So... Yeah ok, you've convinced me
Thanks very much! Glad your enjoying it
It's been so long since I read the opening pages that I forgot how much personality the others have.
They are said to be laughing.
Do we even really know where they come from or what their goal is?
I'm realizing there are enough books left and enough foreshadowing and loose ends to transform this tale into a Lovecraftian space opera.
Yeah the mocking tone and the laughter can go easily unnoticed, they really are fascinating, hoping to do a video on them one day
You want a connection for Dany and the undead business? How about Brave Danny Flint? I think she was either the original mother of dragons or a dragon rider princess (amethyst empress maybe?) Her family was named after a stone that causes fire. Sounds like some undead stone people with a dragon or at the very least some form of fire magic. Think about it. A first men dragon family would be named something basic and simple like Flint. She took the black and was said to be murdered by the watch but I think she was sacrificed by the Night's King/Azor Ahai and this is who later becomes an undead Night's Queen. Her descendants are mountain people who live near the wall too. Im actually surprised you didnt catch it. I think Daenerys is walking the same path as Dany Flint.
It's a pretty "solid" theory.
All the fanart of Danny is of some voluptuous woman when shes always described as anything but.
He's already dead so how can he contract greyscale? That makes no sense.
He’s not going to be dead for long
Was with this until you mentioned Jon becoming a Stone Targaryen.
Really disappointed to hear you believe in that stupid theory.
Haha fair enough then