I LOVE when games bring back the protagonists from the previous iteration of the game as bosses in the new ones. It's always so hype. It's why Pokemon Gold and Silver will always be my favoritye Pokemon games. You beat the Johto league and suddenly, BAM all of Kanto is also in the game and guess who you fight at the end? So good.
Murakumo is still one of the best skills, but the crit rate is so low you can't count on it for extra press turns. Plus, Lunar Hurricane is so much more OP if you have a huge difference in agility against your opponent.
@@HisHoleyness I compared both and overall, Lunar Hurricane is much more helpful. I could make comparisons, but overall LH does much more damage than Murakumo if the Agility difference is high.
@@HisHoleyness The stat. Lunar Hurricane hits for a minimum of 3 times, but more as the difference gets bigger. Biggest count I've got is somewhere between 12 and 15.
Reminder that this is only possible because Gustav is the real Goat!! If he didn't sell us that Zaza (Balms) there's no way it will be smooth like this 😂
for how much every glory point can be sold? also how do you use Omagatoki Luck in Consecutive fights, I`ve tried using it on the final battle in the virtual battles but it doesnt work. congrats btw
I'll answer in order: - 1000 glory points can be traded for 500000 Macca, and that's the only threshold Gustave accepts. - In normal battles, you wanna use it in the very first fight if you're confident that you can clear every subsequent battle in a single turn (turn resets after each fight.) in Virtual Training, however, it's not that simple. It only works in the last fight, no matter what. I tried it on the Empyrean battles at level 999, and I went from 1.3M to 2.1M, which is reasonable if you don't have the Mitama DLC. be mindful you have to finish the fight during the turn where you activate the Omagatoki skill. - Thank you!
@@kaiserkreuz2110 Thanks! I`ve been farming in the virtual empyrean battle in normal difficulty to beat Satan and DF and I think I might`ve doing something wrong bc it didnt seem to work, I will try again later. Thanks again
@@dylendye7410 Do it on Safety, because that is a grind and a half. Honestly, you're better off doing it with the DLC, but I don't know how much it costs (it's the Wealth of Mitama DLC.) I'll make a video of it explaining both ways, since I get asked that quite a bit, and I want fellow players to not feel grueled by the grind. The era of Cockturne is over, after all.
@@kaiserkreuz2110 I think the wealth mitama is 5usd dollars, The grind ain`t that bad. after finishing CoV with almost all side quests and all Mimans in a NG+ my full team of lvl 99 demons can Auto-Skill the Empyrean viritual battle, so it tooks me about minute n a half or less to get 70k Macca and 1m EXP for low lvl demons with the skill that duplicates the xp gained
@@dylendye7410 Yeah but a single Balm is 100k Macca, which makes the battles required for a 999 stat stack very numerous. I'll show a comparative later tonight, provided Vegas pro doesn't crash so I can actually edit a video...
Nope, he's at level 99. I upped him while hunting for mitamas in my previous playthroughs. He can't be used though since I can't give him incenses, which is dumb...
@@geist2820 I agree, Shiva and him would benefit from higher stats, especially compared to the buff Masakado and Satan got. I guess that's because they were bosses designed with Godborn in mind.
Kinda sad to see that this along with any other fights before vengeance suffer from the new level system. The could of made it so these major bosses leveled up alongside you to keep em relevant and threatening
Demi-fiend here is also level 150, with all stats at 400+. The reason this is so busted it the 999 vit on Nahobino from excessive balm farming to make Gaea Rage survivable. It can deaI 50.000+ dmg without that. I did the same thing and it's utterly broken. But good luck winning this fight without that.
@@HisHoleyness Yeah, I could've still lost if the Chaotic Wills procced more often, and for a solo run, you have to tank the Gaea Rages or you'll have to hit and run for about an hour.
Assuming the Chaotic Will AI is the same as the original's, you're guaranteed only 4 Chaotic Will or so (based on damage tresholds) if you don't null/drain/repel phys.
@@randiannahdi Incenses for 25000 macca and Balms for 100000 macca each. If you have the Mitama DLC, you can easily get millions of macca in a matter of minutes.
@@irwanrais2313 You need an Element or a Genma in your active party. Play on safety, then go to Da'at Taito, only increase macca-related Mitama spawn, and try to get consecutive encounters with Saki Mitamas. Then, you use Omagatoki: Luck, and finish all Mitama off with either Gaea Rage or a good enough piercing/Almighty skill. The Omagatoki effect stays if there's a subsequent encounter, so you get everything x4, which stacks with the consecutive encounter multiplier.
The only thing this says is that Demi-Fiend is cower and a pansy 4 vs 1and still lose no wonders why in nocturne we only see the game over screen 90% of the playthrough 😂
Yeah right, and not the fact that Nahobino's stats are way over the roof thanks to New Game+ to the point even Gaea Rage suffers from 99% Damage Reduction
To be fair, Noctune is a way harder game. I've played it again while anticipating Vengeance, and honestly I died there at least 3 more times on Normal than on my first Hard playthrough of Vengeance (I did get my faire share of "Thank you Shin Megami Tensei" moments in V tho.)
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![Shin Megami Tensei 5 Vengeance - Boss Demi fiend 1 Turn Kill [HARD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_QC2XlgPMrU/mqdefault.jpg)
"Young Man"
"Hold my Magatsuhi"
The Strongest Demon in History vs The Strongest Demon of Today
This young man is boundless 😂
Big boy young man 😎
I LOVE when games bring back the protagonists from the previous iteration of the game as bosses in the new ones. It's always so hype. It's why Pokemon Gold and Silver will always be my favoritye Pokemon games. You beat the Johto league and suddenly, BAM all of Kanto is also in the game and guess who you fight at the end? So good.
Agreed. It has this sense of validation. As an early Nocturne fan, I was very eager to get to this fight, and wasn't disappointed.
Young Man, I'm not sure fighting the Demi-fiend alone is a wise idea...
Okay SMT 6 is gonna have us fighting Kreuzs Nahobino as the damn secret boss 😂
EZ boss... until he summons Idun, Black Frost and Amanozako
friendship end with murakumo
Murakumo is still one of the best skills, but the crit rate is so low you can't count on it for extra press turns. Plus, Lunar Hurricane is so much more OP if you have a huge difference in agility against your opponent.
I dunno, wouldn't murakumo still deal more damage with 999 Strength?
@@HisHoleyness I compared both and overall, Lunar Hurricane is much more helpful. I could make comparisons, but overall LH does much more damage than Murakumo if the Agility difference is high.
@@kaiserkreuz2110 Does agility mean the stat or the buffs?
@@HisHoleyness The stat. Lunar Hurricane hits for a minimum of 3 times, but more as the difference gets bigger. Biggest count I've got is somewhere between 12 and 15.
Demi fiend didn't join you. You joined the Demi-fiend.
Reminder that this is only possible because Gustav is the real Goat!! If he didn't sell us that Zaza (Balms) there's no way it will be smooth like this 😂
True, Gustave's a homie.
Young man
"Young Man, you cannot just fight a demon god by yourself."
"Watch me."
Me: *silently screams at you for not using Omnipotent: Succession*
It doesn't stack with Impaler's Animus. Otherwise I'd be spamming it to oblivion, trust me 😭
@@kaiserkreuz2110 "*Okay, I believe you.*"
cturne
yescturne
Geance
The return of the legendary Cockturne
maybecturne
Wait, whose the boss fight again?
for how much every glory point can be sold? also how do you use Omagatoki Luck in Consecutive fights, I`ve tried using it on the final battle in the virtual battles but it doesnt work. congrats btw
I'll answer in order:
- 1000 glory points can be traded for 500000 Macca, and that's the only threshold Gustave accepts.
- In normal battles, you wanna use it in the very first fight if you're confident that you can clear every subsequent battle in a single turn (turn resets after each fight.) in Virtual Training, however, it's not that simple. It only works in the last fight, no matter what. I tried it on the Empyrean battles at level 999, and I went from 1.3M to 2.1M, which is reasonable if you don't have the Mitama DLC. be mindful you have to finish the fight during the turn where you activate the Omagatoki skill.
- Thank you!
@@kaiserkreuz2110 Thanks! I`ve been farming in the virtual empyrean battle in normal difficulty to beat Satan and DF and I think I might`ve doing something wrong bc it didnt seem to work, I will try again later. Thanks again
@@dylendye7410 Do it on Safety, because that is a grind and a half. Honestly, you're better off doing it with the DLC, but I don't know how much it costs (it's the Wealth of Mitama DLC.)
I'll make a video of it explaining both ways, since I get asked that quite a bit, and I want fellow players to not feel grueled by the grind. The era of Cockturne is over, after all.
@@kaiserkreuz2110 I think the wealth mitama is 5usd dollars, The grind ain`t that bad. after finishing CoV with almost all side quests and all Mimans in a NG+ my full team of lvl 99 demons can Auto-Skill the Empyrean viritual battle, so it tooks me about minute n a half or less to get 70k Macca and 1m EXP for low lvl demons with the skill that duplicates the xp gained
@@dylendye7410 Yeah but a single Balm is 100k Macca, which makes the battles required for a 999 stat stack very numerous. I'll show a comparative later tonight, provided Vegas pro doesn't crash so I can actually edit a video...
It's funny that it has already been done in a base game but cool video.
Yeah, Deus' video is what inspired me to do it.
what essence did you use for affinitites?
I reverted to Alilat for ailment resistance, otherwise he'd spam Chaotic Will.
demi fiend's??
@@barryjamesmusicPH if you have null/repel/drain phys, he'll just spam Chaotic Will all over, making this fight impossible to solo.
When the Demi-fiend joins your party in Godborn, is he immediately at level 150 or does he need to levelled first?
Nope, he's at level 99. I upped him while hunting for mitamas in my previous playthroughs. He can't be used though since I can't give him incenses, which is dumb...
@@kaiserkreuz2110 I assume his stats also begin at 99 too? Thank you for answering
@@frozenteardrop1876 Yup, and end at around what you see when I showcase him, which is only half of what he is as a boss.
How many playthroughs did it take to get those stats?
I was on my 7th playthough, but I got the stats maxed out on my 5th. I'm making a video explaining how, right now.
I hope they patch this eventually so it scales with Godborn.
You mean making the fight harder?
@@kaiserkreuz2110ye
@@geist2820 I agree, Shiva and him would benefit from higher stats, especially compared to the buff Masakado and Satan got. I guess that's because they were bosses designed with Godborn in mind.
Deus should learn from here if he wants to do it in smt 5 vengeance
Thanks for the compliment! I was actually inspired from him to do this.
@@kaiserkreuz2110 I'm actually only on like level 34 rn in my playthrough
@@lynxwastaken Good luck! It's a fun game.
Kinda sad to see that this along with any other fights before vengeance suffer from the new level system. The could of made it so these major bosses leveled up alongside you to keep em relevant and threatening
Demi-fiend here is also level 150, with all stats at 400+. The reason this is so busted it the 999 vit on Nahobino from excessive balm farming to make Gaea Rage survivable. It can deaI 50.000+ dmg without that. I did the same thing and it's utterly broken. But good luck winning this fight without that.
@@HisHoleyness Yeah, I could've still lost if the Chaotic Wills procced more often, and for a solo run, you have to tank the Gaea Rages or you'll have to hit and run for about an hour.
Trust me, 425 in each stat is enough to give you a run for your money. You can still die from his Chaotic Wills, if not from his Gara Rages.
Assuming the Chaotic Will AI is the same as the original's, you're guaranteed only 4 Chaotic Will or so (based on damage tresholds) if you don't null/drain/repel phys.
@@raphaelcoprada4637 5 because he uses Mediarahan, which resets the thresholds.
How long did it take you to grind up to maximum stats?
A dozen hours, I think.
what was the best setup to farm the mitamas?
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq you meab the team to use?
where do I find lunar hurricane I wanna dome demi fiend like this
nvm I have been enlightened to the path
How to achieve 999 in all stats ?
U can buy Incense in godborn
@@randiannahdi Incenses for 25000 macca and Balms for 100000 macca each. If you have the Mitama DLC, you can easily get millions of macca in a matter of minutes.
@@kaiserkreuz2110 how you make millions in minutes , teach me senpai
@@irwanrais2313 You need an Element or a Genma in your active party. Play on safety, then go to Da'at Taito, only increase macca-related Mitama spawn, and try to get consecutive encounters with Saki Mitamas. Then, you use Omagatoki: Luck, and finish all Mitama off with either Gaea Rage or a good enough piercing/Almighty skill. The Omagatoki effect stays if there's a subsequent encounter, so you get everything x4, which stacks with the consecutive encounter multiplier.
@@kaiserkreuz2110 i dont think location matters in the godborn mode since all enemies cap at lv 150
The only thing this says is that Demi-Fiend is cower and a pansy 4 vs 1and still lose no wonders why in nocturne we only see the game over screen 90% of the playthrough 😂
Yeah right, and not the fact that Nahobino's stats are way over the roof thanks to New Game+ to the point even Gaea Rage suffers from 99% Damage Reduction
@@supermariogamer5294canon accurate nahobino
They intentionally nerf Demi-Fiend in later SMT games which makes it easy to exploit compared to Digital Devil Saga.
@@NationChosenByGod They really did. This fight isn't easy, mind you, but compared to DDS it's a joke. I still have the nightmares.
To be fair, Noctune is a way harder game. I've played it again while anticipating Vengeance, and honestly I died there at least 3 more times on Normal than on my first Hard playthrough of Vengeance (I did get my faire share of "Thank you Shin Megami Tensei" moments in V tho.)