Thanks for the review! Good job, as always. Had they had a hybrid shape I would have really considered these, particularly if the price tag wasn't so high.
Brilliant showing the launch angles! In table tennis, our equivalent is the "throw angle" of the rubber (high quality TT rubber is $30 to $50 per sheet and you need to buy two of them so places like Revspin will rate rubber by throw angle to help decide what to buy). One reason I like my DBD 16mm is the launch angle is perfect for my stroke mechanics. BTW, Chris Olson's review shows the black core material is very different than the previous Pursuits - might explain the power?
Yes, that’s the same idea. I wish I had a reliable way to measure it because I can notice a difference between paddles. And yeah, I saw that Core Video too, very interesting. That could definitely be why they have more power.
@@pickleballeffect The engineer in me wants to design a fixture to hold the paddle plus an air-actuated piston to fire a pickleball out of a tube to strike the paddle face in a consistent fashion. Sort of like a potato gun but more accurate :)
I’m glad my review was helpful. Engage stopped doing codes on their site since I released this but you can still get 10% off if you get it from Pickleball Central with the code 10EFFECT.
Thank you for the great reviews. I currently enjoy my Pursuit MX 6.0 but want a lighter paddle (better dink control) and a smaller grip (easier transition from continental to semi-western). Will I achieve both objectives with the Pursuit Pro MX 6.0 Lite?
You should look at the Engage Pursuit Pro 1 6.0. It’s still has the thicker core but has a thinner handle and is lighter than the MX 6.0 and plays similar enough that you’ll transition well to it.
@@pickleballeffect Great recommendation! Will I realize enough of a change in weight with the standard or should I go with the Lite? What am I sacrificing in performance with the Lite?
I just played with the MX 6.0 Pro and really enjoyed it. So, I decided to order one. I took your advise and ordered the light weight although the one I played with was the standard weight. If decided to add lead where do think would be the best place that wouldn't affect swing weight? Towards bottom at neck area?
Demo’d the MX6.0 today, not sure which weight version it was (is it listed on the paddle anywhere?). Current paddle is Ronbus R3 Pulsar, no lead. Power was good, spin was sneaky good. At first I didn’t ‘feel’ I was getting great spin, but results were a resounding yes..spin was there. But…the swing weight was immediately noticeable, just picking it up; especially since my tendonitis has flared back up. And then there’s the price. My Pulsar is starting to lose spin, so I’m close to being in the market for a new paddle, but the MX6.0 isn’t going to be it. Club has an EX, so might give that a try.
Hi Braydon, your content is excellent as always! I've been researching for my next potential paddle and I am curious how you would compare the Pursuit MX Pro vs the Volair Mach 1 Forza? I played around with a MX Pro 6.0, it was pretty good except the grip is a little clunky and feels a bit hollow on impact (reminds me of Babolat tennis rackets). I thought the MX might fit my taste better than the 6.0. On the other hand, I've never played with a Forza. Would you mind to share your thoughts? Thanks!
Yeah, the MX has a denser feel to it that you’d probably like more if the 6.0 felt too hollow for you. It will give you more power and pop vs the Mach 1.
Noticed the Johnson twins playing this at APP Atlanta. I wonder if not foaming the handle will cause a problem for "handle snap"? I saw a vid on the core material that shows how different it is from the competitors. Thinking this may be the reason for more power?? Great to see the "launch angle" footage.
Time will tell to see if there are any handle snapping issues but I would imagine it’s not quite as strong without the thermoforming design and foam not in the handle. And yeah, I saw that core video too, very interesting. Makes sense that could be the reason they are more powerful.
@@pickleballeffect You and Chris are my go to for paddles. Curious why adhesives used for attaching the face, is never talked about?? Trade secret maybe??
@@kimleith1378 idk on that one. Seems like the only time adhesives we’re brought up was when brands were scrambling to fix the “delamination” issues and were adding more glue. All I know is that the more glue you use the more weight it can add.
Hey man review as always! I like the fact that you are doing different things to differentiate yourself from other reviewers. Do you think the EX model handle length is long enough for a two-hand backhand? Keep in mind that I am a male but I have pretty average to small hands
I appreciate that! The 5” handle on the EX is pretty tight for two hands. I overlap the pinky on my left hand and can squeeze two other fingers on the grip and then my pointer is on the paddle. I wish they would’ve went with a 5.25” handle to accommodate a second hand better.
I thought the mx was the most unforgiving paddle I’ve played with. If you don’t hit the engage symbol on the paddle the ball completely dies. Can bring a ball to a dead stop
I liked the EX and if I had more time to keep playing with it I think I could get pretty good with it. But it has to be your main paddle. With as much as I switch paddles it’s too poppy to just pick up and play.
Is the Scorpeus review still coming? These seem like an interesting alternative. Is the 14mm Scorpeus a little more control oriented than the Pursuit Pro?
I intended to do the Scorpeus but don’t think I’m going to get around to it. Too many paddles keep getting released and it’s hard to do a full review of them all. But yes, I think the Scorpeus is a little easier to control because it’s not quite as bouncy off the face but I like the feel or sensation at impact of the EX more.
@@pickleballeffect I feel like you can also release paddle videos where you just sit down and talk with them, much less effort editing/production wise. Not saying to get rid of how you do most of your review videos, but a mixture would be fine! I think the majority of your viewers would still watch the video and value your opinion even if you don't have footage of you playing with it.
Hey, I just bought your tungsten tape on Amazon. I would like to increase my serve speed using my Engage MX 6.0 pro. Where would you recommend placing the tape to accomplish this?
Yes! Thanks for the support, I'm excited for it to get in more player's hands. Try putting 2-3 inches in the middle of the sides. If that does the trick then perfect, if not, move it up an inch or two and see how that feels.
Watching this review again because I think I'm gonna exchange the MX 6.0 I recently got for a EX model. So, the EX 6.0 has a smaller grip circumference over the EX? I didn't notice that before. I wonder why they chose to do it that way. How was your hand speed with the EX at the kitchen versus the EX 6.0? Noticeable difference?
Are you talking about the length, width, and grip circumference? I didn’t on these but I do sometimes if something feels off. What was off on yours? I can measure mine.
@@pickleballeffect well it's shy of the 8 inch width and it's shy of the supposed 16 1/2 Length. My wife's original EX pursuit and my new EX pro Dims are all off. Prior to that we only had MX versions, and I never measured them. They always seemed accurate, but the EX's are not the dimensions that they say. I'm curious since they knew you were doing a review if your length and width on the EX are what they should be? Thanks
Aside from the shape, did you see a noticeable different in power when comparing the EX to the MX model. In one of your blogs, you put the MX pro on the gold list so now I’m wondering which one I should demo :)
The Vatics absorb more pace and are easier to control while the Pursuit Pros give you more pop and power. Both good with spin. Both have a pleasant, softer feel to them.
Good call out. It’s hard to get it all in there ha. I’ll add some comments about that in my written review. The grips are bigger on the 6.0 models at 4.5” when the average paddle grip size is 4.25”.
@@kevintrinh2312 I won’t lie, it was somewhat difficult. I tried it first on my original Pursuit MX so it was even better results this time. Using a hand plane is can be difficult if you don’t have experience so my recommendation would be to scribble pencil lines on the grip wood where you want to take it down and sand evenly until pencil scribbles are gone. Rinse and repeat until it feels perfect. Be careful to reduce evenly on both sides and def don’t take too much off. I only take down the top plane of each side to reduce the square/box feeling. The wood is soft so if you’re careful and take your time, it’s well worth it imo. I wish Engage did this from the start, because it’s an easy alteration 🙌
I enjoy your reviews. They are short, to the point, and have analytical, empirical data to support the claims.
Thanks for watching and for the positive feedback. I’m glad they are helpful! I really enjoy doing it.
Thanks for the review! Good job, as always. Had they had a hybrid shape I would have really considered these, particularly if the price tag wasn't so high.
Yeah, they need to update their shape options. Even just a little longer handle on the EX models would be nice.
Love the flight path charts 📈 great review bro!!!
Thanks! 👍
Thanks for the review. How would you compare the mx 6.0 pro 16 mm to the crbn 1x 16mm in terms of power and spin? Cheers
The engage is more powerful and offers more spin though the crbn 1x isn’t far off and is easier to control.
Brilliant showing the launch angles! In table tennis, our equivalent is the "throw angle" of the rubber (high quality TT rubber is $30 to $50 per sheet and you need to buy two of them so places like Revspin will rate rubber by throw angle to help decide what to buy). One reason I like my DBD 16mm is the launch angle is perfect for my stroke mechanics. BTW, Chris Olson's review shows the black core material is very different than the previous Pursuits - might explain the power?
Yes, that’s the same idea. I wish I had a reliable way to measure it because I can notice a difference between paddles. And yeah, I saw that Core Video too, very interesting. That could definitely be why they have more power.
@@pickleballeffect The engineer in me wants to design a fixture to hold the paddle plus an air-actuated piston to fire a pickleball out of a tube to strike the paddle face in a consistent fashion. Sort of like a potato gun but more accurate :)
@@terraXRthat would be amazing.
wow a t700 cf skin! what innovation in the year 2023! 😂
@@steve-94951right ha but it needed it and it plays much better now. They always had the unique core and performance, just needed the rcf.
Thanks for the excellent review. After reading the review, decide to try one, but the discount code does not work anymore, do you have a new one?
I’m glad my review was helpful. Engage stopped doing codes on their site since I released this but you can still get 10% off if you get it from Pickleball Central with the code 10EFFECT.
@@pickleballeffect Thank you!
Thank you for the great reviews. I currently enjoy my Pursuit MX 6.0 but want a lighter paddle (better dink control) and a smaller grip (easier transition from continental to semi-western). Will I achieve both objectives with the Pursuit Pro MX 6.0 Lite?
You should look at the Engage Pursuit Pro 1 6.0. It’s still has the thicker core but has a thinner handle and is lighter than the MX 6.0 and plays similar enough that you’ll transition well to it.
@@pickleballeffect Great recommendation!
Will I realize enough of a change in weight with the standard or should I go with the Lite? What am I sacrificing in performance with the Lite?
I just played with the MX 6.0 Pro and really enjoyed it. So, I decided to order one. I took your advise and ordered the light weight although the one I played with was the standard weight. If decided to add lead where do think would be the best place that wouldn't affect swing weight? Towards bottom at neck area?
Nice, glad you found a paddle you like. And yes, putting the lead in the throat will increase the swingweight the least.
Demo’d the MX6.0 today, not sure which weight version it was (is it listed on the paddle anywhere?). Current paddle is Ronbus R3 Pulsar, no lead. Power was good, spin was sneaky good. At first I didn’t ‘feel’ I was getting great spin, but results were a resounding yes..spin was there. But…the swing weight was immediately noticeable, just picking it up; especially since my tendonitis has flared back up. And then there’s the price.
My Pulsar is starting to lose spin, so I’m close to being in the market for a new paddle, but the MX6.0 isn’t going to be it. Club has an EX, so might give that a try.
Hi Braydon, your content is excellent as always! I've been researching for my next potential paddle and I am curious how you would compare the Pursuit MX Pro vs the Volair Mach 1 Forza? I played around with a MX Pro 6.0, it was pretty good except the grip is a little clunky and feels a bit hollow on impact (reminds me of Babolat tennis rackets). I thought the MX might fit my taste better than the 6.0. On the other hand, I've never played with a Forza. Would you mind to share your thoughts? Thanks!
Yeah, the MX has a denser feel to it that you’d probably like more if the 6.0 felt too hollow for you. It will give you more power and pop vs the Mach 1.
@@pickleballeffect your answer was super helpful. I will definitely try out the MX next. Thank you so much!
Noticed the Johnson twins playing this at APP Atlanta. I wonder if not foaming the handle will cause a problem for "handle snap"? I saw a vid on the core material that shows how different it is from the competitors. Thinking this may be the reason for more power?? Great to see the "launch angle" footage.
Time will tell to see if there are any handle snapping issues but I would imagine it’s not quite as strong without the thermoforming design and foam not in the handle. And yeah, I saw that core video too, very interesting. Makes sense that could be the reason they are more powerful.
@@pickleballeffect You and Chris are my go to for paddles. Curious why adhesives used for attaching the face, is never talked about?? Trade secret maybe??
@@kimleith1378 idk on that one. Seems like the only time adhesives we’re brought up was when brands were scrambling to fix the “delamination” issues and were adding more glue. All I know is that the more glue you use the more weight it can add.
Hey man review as always! I like the fact that you are doing different things to differentiate yourself from other reviewers. Do you think the EX model handle length is long enough for a two-hand backhand? Keep in mind that I am a male but I have pretty average to small hands
I appreciate that! The 5” handle on the EX is pretty tight for two hands. I overlap the pinky on my left hand and can squeeze two other fingers on the grip and then my pointer is on the paddle. I wish they would’ve went with a 5.25” handle to accommodate a second hand better.
Best reviews on the web.
Wow, thank you!
Where would you put lead tape on the MX Pro? Thank you!
In the throat area since it’s already head heavy.
No one has done a review on the Evolution Extreme
I thought the mx was the most unforgiving paddle I’ve played with. If you don’t hit the engage symbol on the paddle the ball completely dies. Can bring a ball to a dead stop
Great review as always! Currently playing with the Ronbus R1 Nova and loving it. How would you say these compare to the Nova?
The Pursuits will give you more power, pop and forgiveness but at the sacrifice of control compared to the Nova.
Thank you for the reply. Love your channel. Thank you for all of the great content.
You considering switching to one of these as your go to? Still playing with the prism flash?
I liked the EX and if I had more time to keep playing with it I think I could get pretty good with it. But it has to be your main paddle. With as much as I switch paddles it’s too poppy to just pick up and play.
Is the Scorpeus review still coming? These seem like an interesting alternative. Is the 14mm Scorpeus a little more control oriented than the Pursuit Pro?
I intended to do the Scorpeus but don’t think I’m going to get around to it. Too many paddles keep getting released and it’s hard to do a full review of them all. But yes, I think the Scorpeus is a little easier to control because it’s not quite as bouncy off the face but I like the feel or sensation at impact of the EX more.
@@pickleballeffect I feel like you can also release paddle videos where you just sit down and talk with them, much less effort editing/production wise. Not saying to get rid of how you do most of your review videos, but a mixture would be fine! I think the majority of your viewers would still watch the video and value your opinion even if you don't have footage of you playing with it.
Hey, I just bought your tungsten tape on Amazon. I would like to increase my serve speed using my Engage MX 6.0 pro. Where would you recommend placing the tape to accomplish this?
Yes! Thanks for the support, I'm excited for it to get in more player's hands. Try putting 2-3 inches in the middle of the sides. If that does the trick then perfect, if not, move it up an inch or two and see how that feels.
Watching this review again because I think I'm gonna exchange the MX 6.0 I recently got for a EX model.
So, the EX 6.0 has a smaller grip circumference over the EX? I didn't notice that before. I wonder why they chose to do it that way. How was your hand speed with the EX at the kitchen versus the EX 6.0? Noticeable difference?
The EX 6.0 has a larger grip than the EX. Did I label that wrong in the video? And yes, the EX is noticeably better in hand speed than the 6.0 model.
I'm curious did you measure the paddles for basic stats because I have 2 Ex pro's and they do not match the Dimensions Engage Gives. Thanks.
Are you talking about the length, width, and grip circumference? I didn’t on these but I do sometimes if something feels off. What was off on yours? I can measure mine.
@@pickleballeffect well it's shy of the 8 inch width and it's shy of the supposed 16 1/2 Length. My wife's original EX pursuit and my new EX pro Dims are all off. Prior to that we only had MX versions, and I never measured them. They always seemed accurate, but the EX's are not the dimensions that they say. I'm curious since they knew you were doing a review if your length and width on the EX are what they should be? Thanks
@@mobsyndicate1389my ex 6.0 was a smidge longer than 16” and about 1/8” under 8” width and my MX 6.0 was right on the money.
Aside from the shape, did you see a noticeable different in power when comparing the EX to the MX model.
In one of your blogs, you put the MX pro on the gold list so now I’m wondering which one I should demo :)
From the baseline and overheads there is a power difference in favor of the MX but punch volleys and counters at the net were about the same.
How would you say these compare to the Vatic Prism Pro Paddles?
The Vatics absorb more pace and are easier to control while the Pursuit Pros give you more pop and power. Both good with spin. Both have a pleasant, softer feel to them.
@@pickleballeffect thanks! Much appreciated
We gotta talk about the 4.5”+ grip circumference on the 6.0’s. I had to carefully take a hand plane to the 6.0’s bc they’re ridiculous in stock form
Good call out. It’s hard to get it all in there ha. I’ll add some comments about that in my written review. The grips are bigger on the 6.0 models at 4.5” when the average paddle grip size is 4.25”.
Was it difficult? The grip size is a little to big for my hands.. wanted to slim it down also
@@kevintrinh2312 I won’t lie, it was somewhat difficult. I tried it first on my original Pursuit MX so it was even better results this time. Using a hand plane is can be difficult if you don’t have experience so my recommendation would be to scribble pencil lines on the grip wood where you want to take it down and sand evenly until pencil scribbles are gone. Rinse and repeat until it feels perfect. Be careful to reduce evenly on both sides and def don’t take too much off. I only take down the top plane of each side to reduce the square/box feeling. The wood is soft so if you’re careful and take your time, it’s well worth it imo. I wish Engage did this from the start, because it’s an easy alteration 🙌
What’s your main paddle you use?
I go between the Volair Mach 1 Forza, DBD 16, and the Vatic Pro Prism Flash.