What is it with you Patey guys? Between the two of you, I believe that equals the work and creativity of 10 normal guys! Work a full day then work another full day, then do it again the next day. Inhuman drive and determination. One of your parents must have been a robot and you have electrical circuits instead of veins. So impressive. I can only bow in the presence of the Masters.
Hey Mark! I follow you not only because of your passion on things that you never went to school for is completed on you just learning how to do it. The fact that you get things done when you need to get things done even though you could buy the company to complete it. Really! I grew up with the same mentality that you can do anything (I did work a construction job) since nothing is a secret.After getting an ECON degree, my thoughts were right. You and Mike are the staple of "learn what you can and do what you like" Keep making videos!
Nice work on the stairs! Mike is proving no matter how big your work area is you need more. I tripled my area when I moved to this house and I have been working/planning on expanding the whole time.
I just found all the Cowboys videos like a week ago. You guys seem to have so much fun. I love watching you and your brother build things. I wish I had that much energy.
That’s awesome you could build the basement entrance so freakin quick and do it for much less than a contractor. And what an awesome way to unwind up in the mountains!
Some Guy, yep, Mark and Mike started a deck building business in high school after their dad went blind. They ended up having close to 150 employees by the time they graduated high school if I remember correctly. Awesome family. My comment was just because I’m in awe of how they do what they do
Draco is a beast!!..how cool..I have a picture in my head of you when you were 4-5 and somebody told "No" the first time..lol..big frown..you look a little tired..concrete will wear you out...nice job on the stairs..
hey the concrete job looks real good my twin brother and i are carpenters in toronto ont canada we never hire out any trade work we do it ourselves thears a cool new lsa from gair planes called the mule its a nice looking highwing with ultra simle control surfaces hopefully you guys will buid one in your new place
Most construction contractors have the mentality that you’ll be back because everybody is busy. A few years back, I needed a workshop built. 20X36’, with 2X6” stud walls. I got prices ranging from 27,000-36,000, but no one could start before the beginning of the winter 5 months off. Screw it, I’ll do it myself. Rented a Bobcat skid steer for a day and a mini excavator for the footings. Had a company build trusses, the rest I built in the evenings. Took three weeks and built for less than $8,000 in materials.
Very Sweet....I like to do that stuff myself...you guy be safe...I want to meet you some day...I'm not a pilot and live in warm FLA...but some day I'll get out to the STOL drags and meet all of you...again...Fly safe
I’ve gotta say, if anybody is every going to build the world’s first home-built Tilt-Rotor, it’s Mark and Mike. Somebody has got to do it first, come on dudes, become Orville and Wilbur!
In Australia in April near Melbourne we have the STOL championships coming up. Would be AWESOME to have Draco there. Can you pencil in a visit for next year pretty PLEASE ?????
Man... it almost looks as if the suspension breaks when the wheel travels that much.... so impressive. You guys can always build another wilga (hint, hint)
Home building is not aeroscience but dang, you do it all. I've always thought it funny about the Patey & Kelly twins, hope you are all good friends and get together?
Mark, well done! But you saved even more than the $20k, since you pay with your after tax dollars! Love hearing about yours and Mike projects, ya'll both are very inspiring people... wait a minute! Does that mean ya'll are muses? Lol!
Love you guys! I so want to fly or fly in Draco. That thing is a beast! Absolutely loving it. Found your page as a suggestion from Cory Robin. I even have the Flying Cowboys logo on back of my truck to show support. Would love to fly with y'all one day. Long trip though from NC.
Mezzanine looks awesome ! As a safety measure, are you putting a sump pump in the walkout at the bottom of your stairs in case the drain is blocked, or at least an alarm that water level is rising ? Have a similar situation in a family member's house that's always flooding basement due to debris blocking drainage... they had to put a boat style bilge pump out there to stop flooding.
Draco daydreams are back. One part of me says I hope they start building something Dracoish but I have that other feeling of one expenditure behooves many many more
Very cool, Cudos! I love Concrete. Just comment, they say (contractors) Tilt-Up doesn't lend it self to small buildings and lots of openings. Poppycock! I've done two Car-Washes, Detail-Shops and Express-Lubes in it now. I'd love to build a entire home of Concrete. Great job there! And SMART! ;) AP
you guys might wanna check out the state of 3d printed concrete - it is pretty obvious at this point that some of the most stunning building in history are going to come from that tech in the next few decades, the shapes are unlimited and the surface could be wet carved or pressed with almost any texture or pattern imaginable. Every colour shape and texture you can think of, custom printed for your application, no costs of moulds.
Man, I should switch trades....only made a grand today setting tile...LOL Good for you for taking in on yourself, my phone doesn't stop ringing...wish I didn't have to turn so many projects away.....
I built my home and I got quotes of up to $75K to do the grading. 650 cu. yds. in LA county. I found a guy with a cat. 753 (I think it was) found my local area to take the dirt (good dirt too, Basalt) found 5 truckers with Super 10 (third axle, 10 yard cap) and did the job for $24K. Saved $51K.
Next time you do steps, bevel the bottom of each formboard and put bevel away from concrete. That way you can trowel all the way into the corner without removing the form.
Ha ha, the guy who built Draco can also do a little concrete foundation work, who'd have thunk it! Meant as a compliment, OF COURSE you could knock out a little project like that, even though that's not your usual thing. Being handy is a good thing for whatever one takes on, well done. Now get back to making amazing aircraft!
Is there anything that Mark can't do? lol. I'm curious Mark is there anything that you failed at? I already know the answer to that, it's a strong no! haha. I look forward to seeing what the Patey Skunkworks puts out next!
Where are you guy's based out of? I'll be moving to Saratoga Spring's in a few weeks and I'll be working for Duncan Aviation in Provo, UT. I'd love to meet you guy's someday!! Keep up the great work.
I hope you show how badly Draco was damaged in the attempted takeoff, and how you intend to fix it or salvage it's parts for use on another plane. I'm pretty sure you loaded it up into a trailer and hauled it back to your shop in Utah.
hey mike! Got a Question. the spars on those could you redo them in Carbon fiber. then bolt a landing gear from the wing? that way you would have a retractable gear. plus it would be even better for rough landings as it would be bigger. the aircraft would be sooo much cleaner/slick. and then you could add a pretty decent fuel tank along the fuselage Also when will you build one of these wit ha GE 110 with afterburner :P OR REAL TALK dual PT6A-60's on the wings that would be specially nice with retract able gear and pressurize or just keep portable oxygen. if you did dual PT6A, you could probably use a Dash 8 gear and mounts pretty much off the shelf ........ even do them reverse like the Piaggio 180. it uses PT 6A type engines but turns them around so the air doesn't have to reverse its course into the engine robbing efficiency. it makes them 40% more efficient :) And when you build this (And you will haha) I get the first flight :P :P
Pouring reinforced concrete retaining walls is a specialist civil engineering exercise that needs the following for an acceptable job: 1) Structural calcs. 2) I would have expected the base of the wall to have a RC toe to resist overturning. 3) The concrete should have been vibro compacted to ensure no voids to ensure the expected structural strength, durability and waterproofing. 4) I would have expected a full cage of reinforcement in the stairs to resist the lateral forces. 5) The timber shutter should not have been 'lost' by back filling. It will eventually rot and the sub base, which should have been in any case, vibro plate compacted in 6" (150mm) layers, will then migrate to fill the rotted timber voids leaving a void under the floor slab, which will then crack and subside unless it is designed as a spanning slab rather than the usual ground bearing slab. 6) Concrete is naturally porous, moreso if it is not extremely well consolidated, and in this installation I would have expected a waterproof membrane at the back of the wall linking in with the floor slab membrane. As you cannot have fitted one then expect damp penetration and salts migration. I presume that the works were approved by your building inspectors?
For the cost savings he could do it five times. Plus he has them now not next year. It is stairs not retaining wall. Are you complaining because it is not earthquake proof or you one of the salty contractors that didn’t get to rip him off.
@@Kevy-vn9db I am an Architect with over 40 years experience and have been involved with an extensive variety of construction works from house extensions through to $Multi-Million projects. I have a particular expertise in building construction to the point where I have acted as expert witness in litigation cases. The type of construction that Mike Patey described is what I would expect from the worst of amateurs with dangerously little knowledge of construction. I don't doubt his expertise at building aircraft, where I am sure that failure in design can be fatal - and so it is also with structural building construction. I am comfortable with non-professionals completing building works BUT they do require to have sufficient knowledge and be open to professional direction. If cost is the issue then a short consultation with building professionals should establish the appropriate form of construction and resultant cost, and if Mike Patey wanted to carry out the work himself then I am sure that he will find the correct expertise to assist and inspect the works to ensure the structural quality of the work.
>^. .^< Sure you know that stair well can easily turn into a water well and collect water for your basement and you have a plan B and all the equipment on hand to manage if/when it does......
What is it with you Patey guys? Between the two of you, I believe that equals the work and creativity of 10 normal guys! Work a full day then work another full day, then do it again the next day. Inhuman drive and determination. One of your parents must have been a robot and you have electrical circuits instead of veins. So impressive. I can only bow in the presence of the Masters.
Rik B that guy gives a compliment and you call him a lazy asshole??? Get back on your meds dude.
They are Superman one and two......I don't know who's one or two though......Their parents must be so pleased to have twins that are so incredible.
Hey Mark! I follow you not only because of your passion on things that you never went to school for is completed on you just learning how to do it. The fact that you get things done when you need to get things done even though you could buy the company to complete it. Really! I grew up with the same mentality that you can do anything (I did work a construction job) since nothing is a secret.After getting an ECON degree, my thoughts were right. You and Mike are the staple of "learn what you can and do what you like"
Keep making videos!
That red helicopter looked cool...
Nice work on the stairs! Mike is proving no matter how big your work area is you need more. I tripled my area when I moved to this house and I have been working/planning on expanding the whole time.
That was awesome Mark, I love how you guys are always doing something and never stop but still make the time to have fun with friends and family!
Living and enjoying life.
I just found all the Cowboys videos like a week ago. You guys seem to have so much fun. I love watching you and your brother build things. I wish I had that much energy.
You are the most capable genius I have ever come across. Respect!
Fun time is even better when it follows a successful project...especially one that keeps a nice chunk of change at home.
That was a cool landing, left gear buried, amazing suspension. Retaining wall/stairs turned out great. The mezzanine is awesome.
That’s awesome you could build the basement entrance so freakin quick and do it for much less than a contractor. And what an awesome way to unwind up in the mountains!
Some Guy, yep, Mark and Mike started a deck building business in high school after their dad went blind. They ended up having close to 150 employees by the time they graduated high school if I remember correctly. Awesome family. My comment was just because I’m in awe of how they do what they do
Your like a Master of everything. One day when I grow up I want to be just like you...a STUD. Oh and one day soon a owner of a Best Tug.
You and your twin could build a small town with a functioning airport and utilities for your family in about a month
Draco is a beast!!..how cool..I have a picture in my head of you when you were 4-5 and somebody told "No" the first time..lol..big frown..you look a little tired..concrete will wear you out...nice job on the stairs..
Man, I'm too lazy. I get home from work and I just want to watch guys like you work hard.
Your energy level and “getter done” drive are incredible!
Curtis Green
He and his bro started building decks when they were 13..
hey the concrete job looks real good my twin brother and i are carpenters in toronto ont canada we never hire out any trade work we do it ourselves thears a cool new lsa from gair planes called the mule its a nice looking highwing with ultra simle control surfaces hopefully you guys will buid one in your new place
Living the real American dream! to me Doesn't get any better than that ! Kansas? Arkansas?
Damn you guys have all the fun down there
Nice job on that walkout and the hanger is coming along fast. I love watching how people trouble shoot a job and find ways to save and execute it.
You guys are crazy, amazing and inspirational (and possibly not Human) - thank you for sharing!
Living the American dream! These brothers get things done!
Love watching your progress....it all happens soooo fast!!!...DAng cant tell you two guys apart...
👍Draco hangs on the prop,what a climb rate, love the videos
Most construction contractors have the mentality that you’ll be back because everybody is busy.
A few years back, I needed a workshop built. 20X36’, with 2X6” stud walls. I got prices ranging from 27,000-36,000, but no one could start before the beginning of the winter 5 months off.
Screw it, I’ll do it myself. Rented a Bobcat skid steer for a day and a mini excavator for the footings. Had a company build trusses, the rest I built in the evenings. Took three weeks and built for less than $8,000 in materials.
We have a laborer shortage. Busy is just a laymans term for not understanding a schedule is part of construction. Kudos on your project!!
You are such a happy guy!
I hope mike shows more carbon fiber work on his next build. If he does another build series.
Great work on the stairwell Mark. Awesome video and more, more, more Draco. Love that beast.
Can't wait to see you fit a Pratt & Whitney to those stairs and fly them.
Very Sweet....I like to do that stuff myself...you guy be safe...I want to meet you some day...I'm not a pilot and live in warm FLA...but some day I'll get out to the STOL drags and meet all of you...again...Fly safe
I’ve gotta say, if anybody is every going to build the world’s first home-built Tilt-Rotor, it’s Mark and Mike.
Somebody has got to do it first, come on dudes, become Orville and Wilbur!
WoW!.....You the man!.....$5,000 dollar's per evening. I doubt even the best programmers get paid that much......You guy's are the best!
In Australia in April near Melbourne we have the STOL championships coming up. Would be AWESOME to have Draco there. Can you pencil in a visit for next year pretty PLEASE ?????
How did I not know you have a RUclips channel?! Oh man. This day can't possibly get any better now.
Great stuff guys. Nice to see y'all with smiles beaming.
Love the new addition.
Man... it almost looks as if the suspension breaks when the wheel travels that much.... so impressive. You guys can always build another wilga (hint, hint)
Mike has said that is the last Wilga built... but is it... really???? Maybe the last one built in Poland but what about Utah??? ;^)
You guys are awesome!
Home building is not aeroscience but dang, you do it all. I've always thought it funny about the Patey & Kelly twins, hope you are all good friends and get together?
You guys just have too much fun!
God you guys are awesome! The positive attitudes that you both exude is infectious!!
Where did you tie the Drain in at? Don't forget to treat/seal the concrete. Nice looking job Mr. Patey.
Fantastic job by you as always
Nice work on the concrete retaining walls and stairway.
Mark, well done! But you saved even more than the $20k, since you pay with your after tax dollars! Love hearing about yours and Mike projects, ya'll both are very inspiring people... wait a minute! Does that mean ya'll are muses? Lol!
What can't you do Mike ? Great job ! Love your Draco and hanger too, I'm envious !
Love you guys! I so want to fly or fly in Draco. That thing is a beast! Absolutely loving it. Found your page as a suggestion from Cory Robin. I even have the Flying Cowboys logo on back of my truck to show support. Would love to fly with y'all one day. Long trip though from NC.
Mezzanine looks awesome ! As a safety measure, are you putting a sump pump in the walkout at the bottom of your stairs in case the drain is blocked, or at least an alarm that water level is rising ? Have a similar situation in a family member's house that's always flooding basement due to debris blocking drainage... they had to put a boat style bilge pump out there to stop flooding.
Mike Love, it’s there, if you watch close you Will see it
Goodshit,getting in and do it yourself,pretty sure the patey boys are part kiwi 😀
Nice job on the stairs.
Draco daydreams are back. One part of me says I hope they start building something Dracoish but I have that other feeling of one expenditure behooves many many more
Very cool, Cudos! I love Concrete. Just comment, they say (contractors) Tilt-Up doesn't lend it self to small buildings and lots of openings. Poppycock! I've done two Car-Washes, Detail-Shops and Express-Lubes in it now. I'd love to build a entire home of Concrete. Great job there! And SMART! ;) AP
We just had a new hi tech car wash built here in Pocatello, all tilt up, maybe one of yours?
I would live to do a precast house.
you guys might wanna check out the state of 3d printed concrete - it is pretty obvious at this point that some of the most stunning building in history are going to come from that tech in the next few decades, the shapes are unlimited and the surface could be wet carved or pressed with almost any texture or pattern imaginable. Every colour shape and texture you can think of, custom printed for your application, no costs of moulds.
I love you twins, you are go doers
I saw this video pop up on my phone and didnt realize until you got to the hanger that you weren't mike just doing a home project! Hahahaha
Mark I did not know you had a channel. I have just subscribed thanks
Looked like Draco took a knee! Awesome!
The 2 most productive people on the planet
Man, I should switch trades....only made a grand today setting tile...LOL Good for you for taking in on yourself, my phone doesn't stop ringing...wish I didn't have to turn so many projects away.....
you 2 are awesome.
Work HARD, play HARDER :). Greetings from Sweden
There are TWO of YOU !!!
Awesome 😎
Very cool Mark!
At least your not walking on a minefield with Trent Palmer
I built my home and I got quotes of up to $75K to do the grading. 650 cu. yds. in LA county. I found a guy with a cat. 753 (I think it was) found my local area to take the dirt (good dirt too, Basalt) found 5 truckers with Super 10 (third axle, 10 yard cap) and did the job for $24K. Saved $51K.
I could only press the LIKE button once. .. youtube conspiracy? ??
So I just had to comment! DOUBLE LIKED 😆
Looking forward to seeing what you guys are going to come up with next. An all carbon Super Cub with twin windmills??
Next time you do steps, bevel the bottom of each formboard and put bevel away from concrete.
That way you can trowel all the way into the corner without removing the form.
Work hard. Play hard.
hey Mike, you should have used ICF. (stryfoam lego). Would have much easier to build and pour.
Ha ha, the guy who built Draco can also do a little concrete foundation work, who'd have thunk it! Meant as a compliment, OF COURSE you could knock out a little project like that, even though that's not your usual thing. Being handy is a good thing for whatever one takes on, well done. Now get back to making amazing aircraft!
portnuefflyer Mark did the basement work, and his Twin brother Mike built Draco.
Great job!
Holy smoke. I didn't know there are two of you.
Nice job on the wall and the stairs! And the mezzanine in the hangar! Greetings from Norway:)
How are you controlling rain water down the stairs and door?
well dun mike you saved your self a lot of money doing your self keep going good job [back to work ] lol
Great job finishing those stairs, it's gonna be really hard to get a motorcycle up them though, (*don't ask me how I know*)
You have to put a "Firemans pole" in. The stairs are just for going up, not down.
Is there anything that Mark can't do? lol. I'm curious Mark is there anything that you failed at?
I already know the answer to that, it's a strong no! haha. I look forward to seeing what the Patey Skunkworks puts out next!
AAaah! My face hurts from grinning!
What this place needs, IS A TRAMPOLINE!!!
Draco has no respect for gravity!
oh we pilots and our planes have the utmost respect for gravity, that does not mean we will not find loopholes and fly.
That plane looks like it could takeoff facing the inside of a box canyon.
Where are you guy's based out of? I'll be moving to Saratoga Spring's in a few weeks and I'll be working for Duncan Aviation in Provo, UT. I'd love to meet you guy's someday!! Keep up the great work.
ryan moeller
They are out of Spanish Fork Airport.
Take Care, Bill
@@BillUtah Thanks for the info brother! I hope to meet them someday soon. I'll have my A&P Certificate by March 19th. 👍👍
NIce one lads !
my tug came with my plane and hanger and it is from best tugs accept no substitutions best tugs ever.
I hope you show how badly Draco was damaged in the attempted takeoff, and how you intend to fix it or salvage it's parts for use on another plane. I'm pretty sure you loaded it up into a trailer and hauled it back to your shop in Utah.
Love the energy! Are you selling it in a bottle lol. Always inspiring.
Draco climbs like a scared cat once off the ground.
well that was a yawn that turned into a laugh! : )
WOW....U GUYS R LIVIN THE LIFE....L I V I N
Fyi, appreciate you.
THE DRACANATOR!!
hey mike! Got a Question. the spars on those could you redo them in Carbon fiber. then bolt a landing gear from the wing? that way you would have a retractable gear. plus it would be even better for rough landings as it would be bigger. the aircraft would be sooo much cleaner/slick. and then you could add a pretty decent fuel tank along the fuselage
Also when will you build one of these wit ha GE 110 with afterburner :P
OR REAL TALK dual PT6A-60's on the wings that would be specially nice with retract able gear and pressurize or just keep portable oxygen.
if you did dual PT6A, you could probably use a Dash 8 gear and mounts pretty much off the shelf ........ even do them reverse like the Piaggio 180. it uses PT 6A type engines but turns them around so the air doesn't have to reverse its course into the engine robbing efficiency. it makes them 40% more efficient :)
And when you build this (And you will haha) I get the first flight :P :P
Deep breaths deep breaths, man I thought I had it bad this Draco daydreaming is going to need treatment
I would like you to build an electric contra rotating ducted turbo fan aircraft. I just realized Draco has the same turbine as my air tractor.
Would there be issues with drainage/water over time with that new hole into the basement?
You can see the drain at the bottom of the stairs
Pouring reinforced concrete retaining walls is a specialist civil engineering exercise that needs the following for an acceptable job:
1) Structural calcs.
2) I would have expected the base of the wall to have a RC toe to resist overturning.
3) The concrete should have been vibro compacted to ensure no voids to ensure the expected structural strength, durability and waterproofing.
4) I would have expected a full cage of reinforcement in the stairs to resist the lateral forces.
5) The timber shutter should not have been 'lost' by back filling. It will eventually rot and the sub base, which should have been in any case, vibro plate compacted in 6" (150mm) layers, will then migrate to fill the rotted timber voids leaving a void under the floor slab, which will then crack and subside unless it is designed as a spanning slab rather than the usual ground bearing slab.
6) Concrete is naturally porous, moreso if it is not extremely well consolidated, and in this installation I would have expected a waterproof membrane at the back of the wall linking in with the floor slab membrane. As you cannot have fitted one then expect damp penetration and salts migration.
I presume that the works were approved by your building inspectors?
For the cost savings he could do it five times. Plus he has them now not next year. It is stairs not retaining wall. Are you complaining because it is not earthquake proof or you one of the salty contractors that didn’t get to rip him off.
@@Kevy-vn9db I am an Architect with over 40 years experience and have been involved with an extensive variety of construction works from house extensions through to $Multi-Million projects. I have a particular expertise in building construction to the point where I have acted as expert witness in litigation cases.
The type of construction that Mike Patey described is what I would expect from the worst of amateurs with dangerously little knowledge of construction. I don't doubt his expertise at building aircraft, where I am sure that failure in design can be fatal - and so it is also with structural building construction. I am comfortable with non-professionals completing building works BUT they do require to have sufficient knowledge and be open to professional direction.
If cost is the issue then a short consultation with building professionals should establish the appropriate form of construction and resultant cost, and if Mike Patey wanted to carry out the work himself then I am sure that he will find the correct expertise to assist and inspect the works to ensure the structural quality of the work.
Draco can climb straight up! 👍
Mate you two blokes have some go in ya's
They land like it's pulling into a driveway.
>^. .^< Sure you know that stair well can easily turn into a water well and collect water for your basement and you have a plan B and all the equipment on hand to manage if/when it does......
Just wondering what the specs are, top speed, ceiling height, take off and landing distances, rate of climb ect. Thanks
Swept 20 ;...now rebuild DRACO asap and avoid crosswind take offs!