Finally somebody mentioned this! I always thought it was weird how all people slide and considering it's needles that go up and down very quickly which just does unnecessary damage to your skin by dragging sharp needles across your face....like it's logical if you take few seconds to think about it lol. Doing stamping slowly is annoying but at least you're not dragging freaking needless across your skin but instead doing clean punctures to your skin, this way less damage and redness to your skin AND your skin heals faster as well. Dermarollers and dragging derma pens is the worst....if you can't afford Derma pen then just buy a DermaStamp instead of Dermaroller as well.
Its so crazy that in dermapen’s short instruction video, they literally tell you to stamp and not drag the pen yet even clinics that are well established drags it or circles it. Great video!🥳
Can you link the video? Every video by Dr Pen online shows them dragging it. Not saying that you’re wrong, I just want to see them explain it the right way
I ordered the pen and when I saw the videos on how to use it I freaked out. Your video made me feel comfortable and I can't wait to receive it and try it your way. Thank you so much 😊
I totally agree! When the pen is in motion, it must drag at some point whilst the needles are penetrating the skin! I have seriously considering the stamp instead -- seems safer.
Thank you so much! I definitely thought it seemed wrong to glide over and I didn’t know how it wasn’t painful! Your stamping makes more sense and your video was the most helpful I’ve seen! 💕
I'm 100% with you about the stamping motion vs. "gliding/dragging". The way Ms. Parris is stamping into her skin...IS the way I would think it should be done. Even Estheticians and Dermatologists are "dragging" these devices over their face. At least it looks like it...on Camera. That is scary to watch. 3 yrs ago...I got a bit too aggressive with my dermaroller and have pink marks on my left cheek STILL. I stopped using those devices. I have decided I trust a chargeable device better than MYSELF. Those look a hell of a lot more intimidating to me, than these Pens. I bought the Hydra H3 which is the first PEN I have ever had. Tonight will be the first try for me, and I am apprehensive and excited...at the same time. Every video I have watched is "gliding"...which seems DRAGGING over the face and seems COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. I don't want any more scars to deal with. I will be STAMPING...not DRAGGING, tonight.
This is the correct technique. Always surprised when I saw 'professionals' doing this on patients. If you google derma roller, derma pen, derma stamp "clay", you can see what they look like compared. And since you're doing it correctly, you'll see that the derma stamp is the better tool. Can get an adjustable 0-3mm for $10-$15.
Thank you 🙏🏻 yes I know the stamp, I have been thinking about it for a while I just don’t know if I have the will power to stamp myself lol 😂 it way be difficult to use but I do want to try.
I've had my first microneedling treatment professionally and il keep doing it professionally till ny acne scars fade then look to do it at home thereafter with the odd professional treatment here and there as I agree it's scary thinking of people dragging it and going so deep
Thank you for making this video. I just bought my dr pen and saw videos of people bleeding which is horrifying. But your looks good after the procedure.
that god i came across your video! i'm thinking to order the pen and do it myself to save money as i will need quite a few treatments and not just on my face. almost in every video they keep dragging the pen and there's alot of blood everywhere! it makes sense just to tap it from point to point. thank you for making this video🙏🏼
Thank you for telling us not to drag it, I saw a scary video where a RUclipsr had blood all over her face! ..which if applied incorrectly is s o scary, dangerous, and UNHYGIENIC!
I think we are getting too comfortable with such an intensive treatment. I always believe less is more. Take the time to do it, it’s our skin and we have only one. Glad I was able to help 🙏🏻
It depends on what method you use. Soft methods work on more shallow layers of skin, needles are not out much and you use different cartridges. For deep methods you use needles with bigger extensions to work on deeper layers of skin, thus blood will obviously appear :) we're talking of course about the situation, when the procedure was conducted properly
The annoying thing is hearing the vibration of the device through the face bone! I would listen to some music or watch some shows while I do this to distract me from the mild discomfort, but the sound I hear from RUclips and shows will get affected due to the vibration of the device.. I just started to use it yesterday. And I came here to confirm if I’m using the device correctly! Thanks for clarifying!!
It’s like in dentist office. My husband is always asking what is the noise but after while I don’t hear it anymore but the first few seconds it seems very loud.
I have ordered a Derma Pen and was going to cancel, until I stumbled on your video. Calmed my fears and everything you say makes perfect sense. Will definitely be following your advice and do your version of using a derma pen.
I own my own derma pen and just did it last night (have done this 20 plus times over the last few years). My face gets swollen and red for a day or two after (it’s red and crazy today, after doing it early last night). I’m going to try this technique in 4 to 5 weeks and see!! I’m excited ❤❤❤
First time I did the dipping. All was fine. But yesterday I wanted to do it quickly so I did circles and lines. Only 0.25mm on face and 0.75mm on hair. This morning I woke up red and swollen only from 0.25mm. Crazy. Dipping is the way.
You are making me way more confident to use this on my face. I have bought the dermapen but am way too scared to use it until now. It makes more sense to stamp than those videos showing the circles. 😂
Great video example ! Stamping motion is the WAY! Before watching this video I did the dragging and circle method that Derms do and it just created more unnecessary marks ..
just got quoted £600 for 6 sessions,Thanks for the video your skin is perfect i’ll definitely get the dr pen i found the professional laser resurfacing treatment effective but i will do the micro needling at home.
Thank you. It definitely is great investment as it works magic and you save lots of money. I do mine for man years now, before I was micro needling all the time now, once every 5-6 weeks.
The beginners should use 42pin if more needles you use then more gentle is it. I startet with 42pin and after using 5 times I will take 36pin I think people think that 16pin is gentle than 42pin. If you put your foot on 42 needles or 16 needle, wich one would hurt more : )
I absolutely love my Dr Pen, start small build up. And use a foreo often pending on skin type and days of the month. Good luck all you guy’s using these products. Used minimally & with the right mindset you will certainly save a visit to the expensive cream shop in the long run especially using Hylaronic acid before during and after treatment x
Difficult to answer, it all depends on your skin. What are you targeting? For me it’s pigmentation, plumpness and product absorption and I see progress in all of them immediately.
@@Lilmoon515 Well again it depends how strong is the texture but if you use the device correctly you can see small change after first use, and with each use it will be better and better but use lots of SPF 50 specially now going to spring/summer. As well don't use it over active inflammation.
Glad I found this video! I just used my Dr Pen for the first time and my skin isn’t red and it didn’t hurt. I was wondering if I did it correctly considering all the other videos show women super red and bleeding. Thanks for the video!
Thank you very much. I agree with you 💯 percent. That young woman whom does that 5 minute demonstration. Monica(Dr Pen) face was bleeding? I am doing what you recommended. It makes sense. I had micoblading eyebrow knew nothing until later. A male doctor was talking about what happens and how bad it is. If I knew that before I would have never ever had it done. It was really painful weeks later. And you just said exactly what we are doing. Thank God I found this video 😊 Once again you have helped so many of us. Thank you very much.😊
@IvetParris Ivet. I did what you said. Very good. They are crazy. Monica I feel for her. As dealing with the company for products etc....I personally stear well away from them. It's all about $$$$ They don't care. Turn over of products. Also, advice about retinol on the skin after that no way. Thank you so much Ivet take care.
@@TheVeruskam it will lighten up the eyebrows. But if you do it only once it's ok, but if you intentionally hold the needles on the tattoo it will make it lighter.
Q1. with what should we wash face after applying the numbing screen and after microneedling, respectively? Q2. how many needles cartridge should be used for cheeks? Q3. are we supposed to use the cartridge only once? can we sterilize it with isopropyl alcohol? Q4. How much better is Dr. Pen A6 than A1? Q5. Best place to buy genuine authentic Dr. Pen or any good derma pen in India?
I like to use Environ face wash, but anyways if you are having the need of numbing cream it means you are going too deep and that is something you should not be doing at home!!! Less is more! The cartridge is for one time use! Never ever reuse it NEVER! If you are doing such a treatment at home you must use common sense to prevent injury! Read the directions of the company! I was not doing comparison kind of video at all, so I don’t get where is this kind of question coming from. I think you know very well that I won’t be able to tell you where to buy this device in India. 🤷🏻♀️
I used to drag the derma pen when I do it till I had small scars all over my face then I started to make stamping technique it is better even clinics do dragging and circular motion and it makes scratches on the face
I have seen someone online with permanent deep lines from professional miscroneedling. Her skin was fully healed but the lines were very visible. Some people prefer speed over quality. I am glad you changed the technique 🙏🏻
Why stamping if the pen is already doing it? The motorized needles of the Dermapen essentially take care of the "stamping work. Why pay more than Dermastamp for doing the same?
@@IvetParris I am sorry you can't use the numbing. After 20 mts...I wipe the cream off with distilled water and proceed to microneedle. My skin feels quite dry after a session. But the topicals and cartridge serum seem to make it more bearable.
Well this device is for home use not the same what you see in professional dermatology office. The professional device is not for a sale to public for a reason.
@@IvetParris the clinic we went to actually used this same device, but they go deeper... she went 1.0 and 2. afterwards my brothers face was dripping with blood. I will just do the dapping method at home though.
Hello! Great video with very good informations, thank you very much. I want to buy it. Could you please tell me what cream or serum can i put on my skin before using it? Thank you ❤😊😊
Well people use HA serums but I personally don’t like it because it’s kind of thick serum and it sticks to the needles. I don’t use any during but I use one after.
Excellent video. OMG when i used a dermaroller 0.5 (bought from Amazon!!) I just constantly sneezed when done on forehead. Really don't like the sensation but I liked the effect a few weeks later. Haven't done it for a long while but was worried that the dermaroller doesn't get sterilized enough even when washed in surgical spirit. But this derma pen seems more professional and smaller sections that I can stop and start rather than the excruciating rollering making me sneeze so much. I wonder what the phenomena is that makes you sneeze. Will look it up. Obviously nerves etc. Thank you again. You are so naturally stunning.
The areas with less fat are more sensitive and forehead and eyebrow area is very difficult lol I use to use derma roller and you may have a point that it may isn't as sterile, but because I don't use serum during the process it doesn't have dried serum on the needles but now I 100% prefer the pen over roller but roller was easier to use and it use to work for me very well. I personally never had problem with the roller but it was not as intensive as the pen so I switched.
This is the best video for dr pen .. I bought the same you have but it comes with only 2 needles.. so can I wash it with alcohol after use then use it again? Thanks
@@Myaccount923 Its ok, I prefer it this way, my skin acts better this way, I have been doing it on dry skin for 6 years years but yes many people prefer it while using serum at the same time, we all have different reasons and different skin, you should always do what works the best for you. They use HA serum during, I cant use it my skin gets clogged. As well many people glide the pen on their skin and for the you must use serum otherwise you cut your skin. I have different technique which allows me to take care of my skin the best way my skin needs. I use placenta serum after the treatment which I prefer over HA but I don't have dry skin, I have reactive oily skin.
You use hyaluronic acid as slip when doing a circle or grid method. If you’re stamping, as she did, you don’t need it. I like watching Penn Smith videos. She’s an aesthetician and goes through both medical and cosmetic needling in great detail. She’s very knowledgeable.
But at least you were aware of it some people think it’s ok. I just saw incredibly beautiful woman who end up with permanent looking lines in her complexion from it.
I used a derma roller like 2 years ago and unfortunately I ended up getting contact dermatitis on the area near my lip where the roller dragged my skin and did too much damage, I believe it was 1.5 mm deep. This time ima stick to 0.5mm and only use a pen
Omg that is terrible. I use to use derma roller but I always did it very gently. But 100% the pen is much better and safer if not dragged around and as well I keep it low. Less is more! Because we never know what can happen. 💗
@@IvetParris It depends on the type of the skin. I have rosacea and I can not use anything on my skin. This is after I had alergy after using a cream and doctor prescribed cortizone which damaged the skin.
Oh my dear, it all depends on how deep your scars are. If you have very deep scars I may rather leave the first treatment to the professionals and ask lots of questions. But if you don’t want to. I would start with less and add based on the way it feels, you can adjust the length during the treatment because fatty area can handle longer needle.
No I would not say it adds volume. The plump you get is only because of the inflammation from the needles but it’s not something what lasts. It’s for skin texture, pigmentation, wrinkles and I think if you go deeper but I would not do it at home it helps with collagen which tightens the skin but what I do home is very gentle.
If i want to use serum during the procedure, can you suggest a good one for that? A helpful video btw. I was in doubt to buy this device, now i am convinced after watching this 🥺
Well people use HA serum, I used Matriciel Visage which is firming and plumping and hydrating. Definitely something what won’t dry fast because you don’t want it to get dry on the needles during the treatment as it takes big of time.
I can’t numb I break out from it very bad 😫 but I trust you! I have another 8 attachments so I will definitely keep going but I am very gentle as you can see lol 😂
I dont numb, no need to numb for 0.5, but there is a numbing spray you can apply, not comedogenic, then wash it off with cleanser and wipe face and neck thoroughly with rubbing alcohol. No need in alcohol if you do only 0.2-0.3mm. For medical 0.5+ using alcohol is critical. You wont breakout. Cream is comedogenic for sure, dont use it.
@@J.E.C. I will definitely listen to your rubbing alcohol advice. Thank you so much for sharing. Any other recommendation of what to use after? Maybe HA serum?
Hi Ivet, you give good advice thank you. May I suggest you don’t use any acids at all when needling your face it is dangerous. Just use HA serum during and after treatment, and after 2 days you can resume acids.
It depends how strong you will go with stamping. I can do it every two weeks but I do usually 3-4 weeks because I use Celluma as well for collagen and healing. But once your skin heels you can do it again
Yes you may should adjust it to bit longer needles or you pull your mouth bit to the side like man do while shaving 🪒 with razors to tighten the skin. Same happens to me and I usually just adjust the needles and than I go back to the original length.
I guess it all depends how deep you go but I am not as regular to it as I use to be because I live in Miami. But I would keep at least 4 weeks so you can do your routine as well, like retinol. 100% schedule enough time between other facials, sun exposure or filler/Botox if you get them.
I believe it will reduce the appearance but not completely remove it. If you have LED mask maybe slide it over the area as well as it supports collagen products. Maybe the combination will work better.
ive had professional microneedling done... You must use numbing cream!! Then use this pen 🖊 in a stamp motion... Switch around sentive areas!! Typically you will have blood. Thats the point.
I just saw a girl on instagram with scratches all over the face but as well I saw video from a spa where they did it the way I talk about so I personally prefer to protect my skin from deep cuts. 🥰🙏🏻
Hey! Ivet please make some vlogs also because I love your vlogs so so much you are my inspiration and I wish you reach 5K Subscribers very very soon!💫☺️❤
Are they applying it because they are dragging the pen on their skin? Because I don’t do the dragging style. I used iso placenta serum after and face cream. I don’t like to use HA after or during because it just doesn’t work for my type of skin. I think it’s more important to know what works for you. I personally don’t like to have the needles soaked in products while it is going through my skin.
Well I personally think the pen is great but, we have have to be careful because its not meat to be used as a sliding device. At the moment I don’t have any recommendation about roller as the one I loved was discontinued.
@@IvetParris ahh I see. Would you recommend the m8 over the hydra pen? Some people seem the review the hydra pen as less painful but hey pain is subjective
Unfortunately no. First you didn't disinfect the cartridge. You need to do that before use. Then you need to use a specific products that are for microneedling . You can't use just any from your skincare. It has to be for microneedling. If you want to use any of your skincare products like serum, then you can use nano needle for it
Did you mean scared? Because you aren’t scary you are wonderful. But if you meant scared then why? This is super light treatment and you have control in your own hands. Adjust the tool the way you feel comfortable, less is more.
Well I am not professional or doctor but I truly recommend as gentle as possible which means 16. And don’t go too deep because it’s tricky with hair as it must be clean.
My dr pen should arrive in few hours to me and i said to check some more youtube video, than i found you, firs who ia not dragging at skin!!! I am so happy!!! I will do same! You mentioned you would do it every 2 weeks, like all the face? Or just where you consider having ‘problem’? Are you doing also your neck and chest, or any other body part? Thanks!!!!!
Thank you. Well now I stopped using it often because I am in Miami and I am enjoying the beach too much. But in Europe I used it often to get product absorption and to get rid off dark spots from break out which I got from the water. You should always listen to your skin. What it really needs and how it reacts. I don’t use it anywhere else on the body but I know people do. Maybe once day I will try on neck but for that I will need numbing cream.
If it’s very large scar it may won’t be as beneficial but it helps to smooth the skin from acne scars very well, I had deep scar from smallpox and it’s gone now. But because I don’t know what kind of scar you have I would recommend you to call some spa which provides the service and share more specifics so they can confirm.
Of course you can! I like to use serum after the treatment it seems more hygienic to me but I know people use HA serum during the procedure but as well they do it to help them to slide the pen on face which I don’t recommend to do.
Ur techniques are not specific i mn i hv seen ppl doing ❌️ technique on face so m confused. Just stamping or making cross on skin with stamping technique ? Pls reply
I think the stamp is great, even I haven’t try yet but with the stamp it’s truly in your hands to put the correct pressure to your skin. Be careful 🙏🏻 less is more, always! And specially if using something for the first time without previous professional treatment.
Well the needles go fast so you truly don’t have to but if you personally want to, it’s up to you to decide as only you know what you need at which part of your face.
I use dr pen ones a month 0.75-1mm on my without numbing cream. For me it s not painfull, The results are incredible ....it s the best thing u can do fkr your skin
How is this the correct technique when the Dr. Pen’s indications are to swipe it and make circles on the skin? This technique your doing is good for Vivace/Morpheus, not Dermapen/Dr. Pen.
Sometimes common sense has to be used. If you like to slide and scratch your face that is your choice, I use my device to improve my skin based on what it actually does. It’s home device not the professional device they have in salons. So when I saw it’s scratching my skin while sliding it, I stopped immediately because that would create permanent damage.
@@IvetParris This is misinformation, it doesn’t scratch your skin! It creates controled little wounds so obviously your skin will bleed a little, but the pins go back and forth, you’re not rolling them like with a Dermaroller so scratching with this device is impossible. At least change the title of the video into “my method of using Dr. Pen device” because some people might actually believe that the right indications are a mistake. So again, no, it doesn’t scratch your skin if you do the motions that the producer tells you to do. They know what they’re talking about. I’ve been using this device all over my body for a long time now and can 100% say that you should in fact do circle motions and lines. Also, these devices are used in salons by aestheticians and dermatologists as well.
Don't be mistaken. I have Dr. Pen M8 and fitted with 36 pin cartridge is unable to penetrate even a piece of paper. To be honest minimum 5 kg of pressure is required to stick a pack of 36 pins in human skin. This device is absolutely powerless to do such performance. And respectively useless. What you do using it is mostly skin massage. Not microneedling.
One's opinion doesn't change the fact that the needles do not stick into your skin. Otherwise you would be bleeding and experiencing pain as it should be :)
I guess no electric pen really works. Unless it is fitted with a cartridge with no more than 3 needles. Then it might be able to stick them thorougly. I also have a manual derma stamp with 32 needles and I know how hard is to stick that many needles into the skin. I barely manage to stick them thanks to my strong muscles. Human skin is incredibly tough. @@manifestingmaren
@@manifestingmaren Dr Pen works, it depends on how is your setting which you can adjust. I personally prefer to use minimal length on bones and I adjust it on more fatty areas which need more length. I definitely experienced pain and if I went deeper with higher length the above requested bleeding would be there as well but be careful going to deep at home, it's better to do deep micro needling in doctor office. Our skin is delicate, not made of steel so high pressure is not needed.
Well I think it truly depends on your skin condition and needs. Depending on your setting but you get multiple stamps while holding the pen in a place. I go back only if I feel like I need more depth, mainly cheeks.
Finally somebody mentioned this! I always thought it was weird how all people slide and considering it's needles that go up and down very quickly which just does unnecessary damage to your skin by dragging sharp needles across your face....like it's logical if you take few seconds to think about it lol.
Doing stamping slowly is annoying but at least you're not dragging freaking needless across your skin but instead doing clean punctures to your skin, this way less damage and redness to your skin AND your skin heals faster as well.
Dermarollers and dragging derma pens is the worst....if you can't afford Derma pen then just buy a DermaStamp instead of Dermaroller as well.
Yeah I thought why are they cutting their face with sharp needles or am I too uneducated? Lol
Logical thinking died In 2020 🐑🐑
Dermarollers are fine
@@quantumparadox3075no they enter the skin on angles
Finally someone that is doing this correctly
🥰 thank you 😊
Its so crazy that in dermapen’s short instruction video, they literally tell you to stamp and not drag the pen yet even clinics that are well established drags it or circles it. Great video!🥳
And yet nobody cares 😕Thank you for sharing it! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
it’s 2024 common sense is a scarcity
Well, profesional devices has they training and clinics work accordingly. Also clinic use products on skin to glide the pen not drag
That’s my biggest concern too
Can you link the video? Every video by Dr Pen online shows them dragging it. Not saying that you’re wrong, I just want to see them explain it the right way
I ordered the pen and when I saw the videos on how to use it I freaked out. Your video made me feel comfortable and I can't wait to receive it and try it your way. Thank you so much 😊
I just bought this pen and was going to do in lines and circles thank god I watched this first! Will now stamp instead of dragging! Thank you x
Yes your skin will thank you later. It just takes few more minutes but it’s much better technique. 🫶🏻
I totally agree! When the pen is in motion, it must drag at some point whilst the needles are penetrating the skin! I have seriously considering the stamp instead -- seems safer.
Thank you so much! I definitely thought it seemed wrong to glide over and I didn’t know how it wasn’t painful! Your stamping makes more sense and your video was the most helpful I’ve seen! 💕
I'm 100% with you about the stamping motion vs. "gliding/dragging". The way Ms. Parris is stamping into her skin...IS the way I would think it should be done. Even Estheticians and Dermatologists are "dragging" these devices over their face. At least it looks like it...on Camera. That is scary to watch. 3 yrs ago...I got a bit too aggressive with my dermaroller and have pink marks on my left cheek STILL. I stopped using those devices. I have decided I trust a chargeable device better than MYSELF.
Those look a hell of a lot more intimidating to me, than these Pens. I bought the Hydra H3 which is the first PEN I have ever had. Tonight will be the first try for me, and I am apprehensive and excited...at the same time. Every video I have watched is "gliding"...which seems DRAGGING over the face and seems COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. I don't want any more scars to deal with. I will be STAMPING...not DRAGGING, tonight.
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I agree..i am also shock when i saw so much video on youtube doing circle and line movement..this device should use like stamp like you did
I was in a pain watching the videos lol glad there is more of us who noticed it 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@djamilawilschke7259 lol
This is the correct technique. Always surprised when I saw 'professionals' doing this on patients.
If you google derma roller, derma pen, derma stamp "clay", you can see what they look like compared.
And since you're doing it correctly, you'll see that the derma stamp is the better tool. Can get an adjustable 0-3mm for $10-$15.
Thank you 🙏🏻 yes I know the stamp, I have been thinking about it for a while I just don’t know if I have the will power to stamp myself lol 😂 it way be difficult to use but I do want to try.
Thanks so much for posting this, you're advice isn't wasted 😊
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you are very smart i had the same thought watching the videos online i like the dip motion you showed us i will be only doing 0.5-1.0 microneedle only
I feel like people sometimes don’t think of what is safe. Less is more! Thank you 😊
I've had my first microneedling treatment professionally and il keep doing it professionally till ny acne scars fade then look to do it at home thereafter with the odd professional treatment here and there as I agree it's scary thinking of people dragging it and going so deep
Thank you for making this video. I just bought my dr pen and saw videos of people bleeding which is horrifying. But your looks good after the procedure.
Thanks for your tips, I have just used carefully at 0.25, it was fine. Thank you!
Oh yes that is ideal. 🙏🏻☺️
New study without any form of midoxinil showed 0.5mm is actually the best for growth. Not more as it damages and actually reduces hair growth.
Ahhh that’s great news. I didn’t see the study but I always had the feeling that people just like to go to extremes
I just bought the pen and sooooo glad I found your video before using it 😅
I would recommend to go easy the first time and once you learnt how your skin reacts you can adjust it for the next time 🙏🏻 I did mine 2 days ago.
that god i came across your video! i'm thinking to order the pen and do it myself to save money as i will need quite a few treatments and not just on my face. almost in every video they keep dragging the pen and there's alot of blood everywhere! it makes sense just to tap it from point to point. thank you for making this video🙏🏼
It’s fantastic tool to have at home and 100% you will safe lots of money as the clinics overcharge. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@IvetParriswill I see results on my acne red scars ? After how many days please !
@@virgogirls.4337it took months for me to see results with acne scars with my roller this could be better though
Thank you for telling us not to drag it, I saw a scary video where a RUclipsr had blood all over her face! ..which if applied incorrectly is s
o scary, dangerous, and UNHYGIENIC!
I think we are getting too comfortable with such an intensive treatment. I always believe less is more. Take the time to do it, it’s our skin and we have only one. Glad I was able to help 🙏🏻
It depends on what method you use. Soft methods work on more shallow layers of skin, needles are not out much and you use different cartridges. For deep methods you use needles with bigger extensions to work on deeper layers of skin, thus blood will obviously appear :) we're talking of course about the situation, when the procedure was conducted properly
Thank you. Thank you!! I didnt understand the dragging ive seen before. I havent done it yet, and needed a tutorial. Thank you!!
🥰🫶🏻 glad I could help 🙏🏻
The annoying thing is hearing the vibration of the device through the face bone! I would listen to some music or watch some shows while I do this to distract me from the mild discomfort, but the sound I hear from RUclips and shows will get affected due to the vibration of the device..
I just started to use it yesterday. And I came here to confirm if I’m using the device correctly! Thanks for clarifying!!
It’s like in dentist office. My husband is always asking what is the noise but after while I don’t hear it anymore but the first few seconds it seems very loud.
I have ordered a Derma Pen and was going to cancel, until I stumbled on your video. Calmed my fears and everything you say makes perfect sense. Will definitely be following your advice and do your version of using a derma pen.
Glad I could help 🙏🏻 it can be scary and painful as well but if handled correctly it’s great treatment. 🙏🏻
@@IvetParris I have used a 0.5 derma roller for years now, but can't get hold of my usual roller so decided to go for Dr Pen Ultima.
I own my own derma pen and just did it last night (have done this 20 plus times over the last few years). My face gets swollen and red for a day or two after (it’s red and crazy today, after doing it early last night). I’m going to try this technique in 4 to 5 weeks and see!! I’m excited ❤❤❤
First time I did the dipping. All was fine. But yesterday I wanted to do it quickly so I did circles and lines. Only 0.25mm on face and 0.75mm on hair. This morning I woke up red and swollen only from 0.25mm. Crazy. Dipping is the way.
At least you didn’t wake up with scratches which I have seen on people and that is very bad. It will heal and next time as you said you know better 🙏🏻
You are making me way more confident to use this on my face. I have bought the dermapen but am way too scared to use it until now. It makes more sense to stamp than those videos showing the circles. 😂
Great video example ! Stamping motion is the WAY! Before watching this video I did the dragging and circle method that Derms do and it just created more unnecessary marks ..
just got quoted £600 for 6 sessions,Thanks for the video your skin is perfect i’ll definitely get the dr pen i found the professional laser resurfacing treatment effective but i will do the micro needling at home.
Thank you. It definitely is great investment as it works magic and you save lots of money. I do mine for man years now, before I was micro needling all the time now, once every 5-6 weeks.
Thanks so much for the correct technique
The beginners should use 42pin if more needles you use then more gentle is it.
I startet with 42pin and after using 5 times I will take 36pin
I think people think that 16pin is gentle than 42pin.
If you put your foot on 42 needles or 16 needle, wich one would hurt more : )
Omg you are soooo right! The 16 feels like its incredibly intense. I didn’t even think about it. Thank you! 🙏🏻
I've also found that the higher needle count hurts less. Somehow, I still like the result I get from the higher needle count.
I absolutely love my Dr Pen, start small build up. And use a foreo often pending on skin type and days of the month. Good luck all you guy’s using these products. Used minimally & with the right mindset you will certainly save a visit to the expensive cream shop in the long run especially using Hylaronic acid before during and after treatment x
What is a foreo?
Your video is the best . I believe in stamping it to 💐💐nano you can go in circle .needle it’s a bad idea 👎🏾
🙏🏻 thank you
Hi so in how many days/weeks can we see effective changes??
Difficult to answer, it all depends on your skin. What are you targeting? For me it’s pigmentation, plumpness and product absorption and I see progress in all of them immediately.
@@IvetParris i dont have any pigmentation as of Now... my concern is mainly the texture...
@@Lilmoon515 Well again it depends how strong is the texture but if you use the device correctly you can see small change after first use, and with each use it will be better and better but use lots of SPF 50 specially now going to spring/summer. As well don't use it over active inflammation.
@@IvetParris okay Thanks ❤️
Thank you for the very informative video. It is an eye opener.
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Glad I found this video! I just used my Dr Pen for the first time and my skin isn’t red and it didn’t hurt. I was wondering if I did it correctly considering all the other videos show women super red and bleeding. Thanks for the video!
Thank you so much. 😊
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Thank you very much. I agree with you 💯 percent. That young woman whom does that 5 minute demonstration. Monica(Dr Pen) face was bleeding? I am doing what you recommended. It makes sense. I had micoblading eyebrow knew nothing until later. A male doctor was talking about what happens and how bad it is. If I knew that before I would have never ever had it done. It was really painful weeks later. And you just said exactly what we are doing. Thank God I found this video 😊 Once again you have helped so many of us. Thank you very much.😊
Thank you 🙏🏻 great to hear it’s appreciated.
@IvetParris Ivet. I did what you said. Very good. They are crazy. Monica I feel for her. As dealing with the company for products etc....I personally stear well away from them. It's all about $$$$ They don't care. Turn over of products. Also, advice about retinol on the skin after that no way. Thank you so much Ivet take care.
What happens when you Microneedling over microblading eyebrows?
@@TheVeruskam it will lighten up the eyebrows. But if you do it only once it's ok, but if you intentionally hold the needles on the tattoo it will make it lighter.
Q1. with what should we wash face after applying the numbing screen and after microneedling, respectively?
Q2. how many needles cartridge should be used for cheeks?
Q3. are we supposed to use the cartridge only once? can we sterilize it with isopropyl alcohol?
Q4. How much better is Dr. Pen A6 than A1?
Q5. Best place to buy genuine authentic Dr. Pen or any good derma pen in India?
I like to use Environ face wash, but anyways if you are having the need of numbing cream it means you are going too deep and that is something you should not be doing at home!!! Less is more! The cartridge is for one time use! Never ever reuse it NEVER! If you are doing such a treatment at home you must use common sense to prevent injury! Read the directions of the company! I was not doing comparison kind of video at all, so I don’t get where is this kind of question coming from. I think you know very well that I won’t be able to tell you where to buy this device in India. 🤷🏻♀️
Amazon india
I used to drag the derma pen when I do it till I had small scars all over my face then I started to make stamping technique it is better even clinics do dragging and circular motion and it makes scratches on the face
I have seen someone online with permanent deep lines from professional miscroneedling. Her skin was fully healed but the lines were very visible. Some people prefer speed over quality. I am glad you changed the technique 🙏🏻
Why stamping if the pen is already doing it?
The motorized needles of the Dermapen essentially take care of the "stamping work. Why pay more than Dermastamp for doing the same?
Why it’s explain in the video. 🙂
Numbing Cream is a Godsend...when using these devices. No need to suffer intensely, for beauty.
Very true but they get my skin way too dry and swollen. 😏😩
@@IvetParris I am sorry you can't use the numbing. After 20 mts...I wipe the cream off with distilled water and proceed to microneedle. My skin feels quite dry after a session. But the topicals and cartridge serum seem to make it more bearable.
Ive seen dermatologist do the dragging and circles method so now i'm confused...
Well this device is for home use not the same what you see in professional dermatology office. The professional device is not for a sale to public for a reason.
@@IvetParris the clinic we went to actually used this same device, but they go deeper... she went 1.0 and 2. afterwards my brothers face was dripping with blood. I will just do the dapping method at home though.
Do the cartridges come with a different amount of needles?
Hello! Great video with very good informations, thank you very much. I want to buy it. Could you please tell me what cream or serum can i put on my skin before using it? Thank you ❤😊😊
Well people use HA serums but I personally don’t like it because it’s kind of thick serum and it sticks to the needles. I don’t use any during but I use one after.
Can i have the exactly reference please
In video description 🙏🏻
Excellent video. OMG when i used a dermaroller 0.5 (bought from Amazon!!) I just constantly sneezed when done on forehead. Really don't like the sensation but I liked the effect a few weeks later. Haven't done it for a long while but was worried that the dermaroller doesn't get sterilized enough even when washed in surgical spirit. But this derma pen seems more professional and smaller sections that I can stop and start rather than the excruciating rollering making me sneeze so much. I wonder what the phenomena is that makes you sneeze. Will look it up. Obviously nerves etc. Thank you again. You are so naturally stunning.
The areas with less fat are more sensitive and forehead and eyebrow area is very difficult lol I use to use derma roller and you may have a point that it may isn't as sterile, but because I don't use serum during the process it doesn't have dried serum on the needles but now I 100% prefer the pen over roller but roller was easier to use and it use to work for me very well. I personally never had problem with the roller but it was not as intensive as the pen so I switched.
Don’t use a week before or after your monthly cycle it’s absolutely torture to do it then make sure you avoid at all costs lol!
That could explain a lot. It definitely makes sense. Thank you
Lol I did my treatment today and it hurt..thank youfor the tip..but I know the result after one week worth it 😊
i’m not sure what you mean. the skin is more sensitive before and after your cycle?
@@RedPilledAsFuckfor me before my cycle, even manicure is super painful.
@@IvetParris huh, weird. i don’t think i experience that, all pain is saved for cramps
This is the best video for dr pen .. I bought the same you have but it comes with only 2 needles.. so can I wash it with alcohol after use then use it again? Thanks
I dont think they make cartridges with two needles. You definitely don’t reuse the cartridges that’s absolutely no!
@ no I mean two cartridges
You don’t use hyaluronic acid?
I do but not during the microneedling.
@@IvetParris okay I watched another video and they said to use it before they started lol
You should always use a serum when microneedling
@@Myaccount923 Its ok, I prefer it this way, my skin acts better this way, I have been doing it on dry skin for 6 years years but yes many people prefer it while using serum at the same time, we all have different reasons and different skin, you should always do what works the best for you. They use HA serum during, I cant use it my skin gets clogged. As well many people glide the pen on their skin and for the you must use serum otherwise you cut your skin. I have different technique which allows me to take care of my skin the best way my skin needs. I use placenta serum after the treatment which I prefer over HA but I don't have dry skin, I have reactive oily skin.
You use hyaluronic acid as slip when doing a circle or grid method. If you’re stamping, as she did, you don’t need it. I like watching Penn Smith videos. She’s an aesthetician and goes through both medical and cosmetic needling in great detail. She’s very knowledgeable.
The first time I used the dermapen I did it with a circle motion, I felt the needles dragging on my skin.
But at least you were aware of it some people think it’s ok. I just saw incredibly beautiful woman who end up with permanent looking lines in her complexion from it.
Thank you it’s really help a lot I just want to try this in home but I’m not professional I will try to do your advice
Be very gentle. Don’t put pressure on the tool and don’t go to deep. It’s incredibly uncomfortable over forehead and eyebrows. 🙏🏻
@@IvetParriscan we do this on the neck area?
Thank you so much for explaining on how to do it correctly 😊
That why there is cosmetic microneedeling and medical microneedeling
I used a derma roller like 2 years ago and unfortunately I ended up getting contact dermatitis on the area near my lip where the roller dragged my skin and did too much damage, I believe it was 1.5 mm deep.
This time ima stick to 0.5mm and only use a pen
Omg that is terrible. I use to use derma roller but I always did it very gently. But 100% the pen is much better and safer if not dragged around and as well I keep it low. Less is more! Because we never know what can happen. 💗
@@IvetParris It depends on the type of the skin. I have rosacea and I can not use anything on my skin. This is after I had alergy after using a cream and doctor prescribed cortizone which damaged the skin.
You have convinced me to try the dr pen I want to be very conservative like you
If you do be very gentle. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Do you do it right under your eye
No I can’t go close to my eyes, too sensitive.
So if you notice a difference now in skin?
Not if, more like 100%
May i know how deep mm the needle to treat acne scar?
Oh my dear, it all depends on how deep your scars are. If you have very deep scars I may rather leave the first treatment to the professionals and ask lots of questions. But if you don’t want to. I would start with less and add based on the way it feels, you can adjust the length during the treatment because fatty area can handle longer needle.
@IvetParris thank u for ur reply
Also check your needle depths and speed too high and too sharp it’s not nice and will certainly cause some pain! Ask my husband 😆 xx
Can you see improvements in cheek volume with the pen? Xxx
No I would not say it adds volume. The plump you get is only because of the inflammation from the needles but it’s not something what lasts. It’s for skin texture, pigmentation, wrinkles and I think if you go deeper but I would not do it at home it helps with collagen which tightens the skin but what I do home is very gentle.
Excellent tips
Thank you 🙏🏻
If i want to use serum during the procedure, can you suggest a good one for that? A helpful video btw. I was in doubt to buy this device, now i am convinced after watching this 🥺
Well people use HA serum, I used Matriciel Visage which is firming and plumping and hydrating. Definitely something what won’t dry fast because you don’t want it to get dry on the needles during the treatment as it takes big of time.
If i use nano needles cant i just drag?
Yes you can. This video is not about nano attachment but about the one with the needles so you are fine with nano as you knew already. 🫶🏻
Ivet you need to numb a little, this a great invesment, it Will make a big difference the more you use it.
I can’t numb I break out from it very bad 😫 but I trust you! I have another 8 attachments so I will definitely keep going but I am very gentle as you can see lol 😂
I dont numb, no need to numb for 0.5, but there is a numbing spray you can apply, not comedogenic, then wash it off with cleanser and wipe face and neck thoroughly with rubbing alcohol. No need in alcohol if you do only 0.2-0.3mm. For medical 0.5+ using alcohol is critical. You wont breakout. Cream is comedogenic for sure, dont use it.
@@J.E.C. I will definitely listen to your rubbing alcohol advice. Thank you so much for sharing. Any other recommendation of what to use after? Maybe HA serum?
Hi Ivet, you give good advice thank you. May I suggest you don’t use any acids at all when needling your face it is dangerous. Just use HA serum during and after treatment, and after 2 days you can resume acids.
How often can you do this when stamping instead of sliding
It depends how strong you will go with stamping. I can do it every two weeks but I do usually 3-4 weeks because I use Celluma as well for collagen and healing.
But once your skin heels you can do it again
I cannot feel the pen on my cheeks. I use 0.75 mm. Any advice?
Yes you may should adjust it to bit longer needles or you pull your mouth bit to the side like man do while shaving 🪒 with razors to tighten the skin. Same happens to me and I usually just adjust the needles and than I go back to the original length.
Can i use this with tanned skin?
Yes but after the treatment you should avoid sun for 10 days.
How long do you let the face to heal for the next session?
I guess it all depends how deep you go but I am not as regular to it as I use to be because I live in Miami. But I would keep at least 4 weeks so you can do your routine as well, like retinol. 100% schedule enough time between other facials, sun exposure or filler/Botox if you get them.
@@IvetParrisis this pen used for wrinkles?
Would Dr. Pen be the same technique?
I am using Dr Pen in the video 😊 so yes.
Thank you from 🇨🇦 you are stunning ❤
Thank you 😊
Can dermapen reduce the appearance of stretch marks? I used 2mm first time with stamping.
I believe it will reduce the appearance but not completely remove it. If you have LED mask maybe slide it over the area as well as it supports collagen products. Maybe the combination will work better.
ive had professional microneedling done... You must use numbing cream!! Then use this pen 🖊 in a stamp motion... Switch around sentive areas!!
Typically you will have blood. Thats the point.
You make us confuse now because all in video they are doing circle moving and line moving ‘
I just saw a girl on instagram with scratches all over the face but as well I saw video from a spa where they did it the way I talk about so I personally prefer to protect my skin from deep cuts. 🥰🙏🏻
Why don’t you use numbing cream?
I explained in the video
does the blades speed is going up and down or rotation? up and down is the best...
Up and down 🤓
Hey! Ivet please make some vlogs also because I love your vlogs so so much you are my inspiration and I wish you reach 5K Subscribers very very soon!💫☺️❤
Thank you 🙏🏻🥰
@@IvetParris sorry 😭
Did you put serum first before the treatment? Im so confused as a lot of people does the derma pen then apply serum after wards
Are they applying it because they are dragging the pen on their skin? Because I don’t do the dragging style. I used iso placenta serum after and face cream. I don’t like to use HA after or during because it just doesn’t work for my type of skin. I think it’s more important to know what works for you. I personally don’t like to have the needles soaked in products while it is going through my skin.
@@IvetParrisCan I ask what is your skin type? Thank you!
what kind of roller would you recommend instead? this was a great video, thank you for sharing
Well I personally think the pen is great but, we have have to be careful because its not meat to be used as a sliding device. At the moment I don’t have any recommendation about roller as the one I loved was discontinued.
Gin Amber beauty has good ones 👍
since it's a hydra pen, why did you apply the serum on your face instead of the designated chamber? device issue?
Except it’s not the hydra pen. It’s M8
@@IvetParris ahh I see. Would you recommend the m8 over the hydra pen? Some people seem the review the hydra pen as less painful but hey pain is subjective
Unfortunately no. First you didn't disinfect the cartridge. You need to do that before use. Then you need to use a specific products that are for microneedling . You can't use just any from your skincare. It has to be for microneedling. If you want to use any of your skincare products like serum, then you can use nano needle for it
lol
Yeah lol @@IvetParris
Aren’t the catridges packed sterile already?
If you use numbing cream, you will be able to use a long needle.
what brand are you using ? thanks
Dr Pen 🥰
I want to purchase a derma pen which website did you order yours from and which specific pen do you use?
Dr. Pen M8 🥰
I feel scary 😢
Did you mean scared? Because you aren’t scary you are wonderful. But if you meant scared then why? This is super light treatment and you have control in your own hands. Adjust the tool the way you feel comfortable, less is more.
Which pin is better for scalp (hair loss) ? 16 or 36 pin?
Well I am not professional or doctor but I truly recommend as gentle as possible which means 16. And don’t go too deep because it’s tricky with hair as it must be clean.
@@IvetParris thank you
16 for colagen inducing at 0.5-1 mm, and 36 for skincare penetration at 0.25-0.3
My dr pen should arrive in few hours to me and i said to check some more youtube video, than i found you, firs who ia not dragging at skin!!! I am so happy!!! I will do same!
You mentioned you would do it every 2 weeks, like all the face? Or just where you consider having ‘problem’?
Are you doing also your neck and chest, or any other body part? Thanks!!!!!
By the way your skin looks amazing😮
Thank you. Well now I stopped using it often because I am in Miami and I am enjoying the beach too much. But in Europe I used it often to get product absorption and to get rid off dark spots from break out which I got from the water. You should always listen to your skin. What it really needs and how it reacts. I don’t use it anywhere else on the body but I know people do. Maybe once day I will try on neck but for that I will need numbing cream.
0.25 is what I use, yes it's painful as you go up
The bones. It’s not just a pain, it’s itching kind of pain which is so weird and uncomfortable lol
❤your glass skin 😍
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Can i use this on my scar on my face?
If it’s very large scar it may won’t be as beneficial but it helps to smooth the skin from acne scars very well, I had deep scar from smallpox and it’s gone now. But because I don’t know what kind of scar you have I would recommend you to call some spa which provides the service and share more specifics so they can confirm.
Can I do it for freshness and avoid wrinkles in future, I do not have acne , and what to apply on my skin before using it?
Of course you can! I like to use serum after the treatment it seems more hygienic to me but I know people use HA serum during the procedure but as well they do it to help them to slide the pen on face which I don’t recommend to do.
@@IvetParris thank you❤
Ur techniques are not specific i mn i hv seen ppl doing ❌️ technique on face so m confused. Just stamping or making cross on skin with stamping technique ? Pls reply
Does this thing work on hyperpigmentation?
Yes it’s a magic for pigmentation but make sure it’s what you believe it is and not melasma. Melasma is hormonal.
Thanks for the video. How old are you?
Thank you 🙏🏻 39
@@IvetParris really nice face for 39. Looks much younger. 🙌
you look much younger
Will the derma stamp work just as good as the pen?
I think the stamp is great, even I haven’t try yet but with the stamp it’s truly in your hands to put the correct pressure to your skin. Be careful 🙏🏻 less is more, always! And specially if using something for the first time without previous professional treatment.
@@IvetParris thank you!
Do you do one pass each for each section of your face?
Well the needles go fast so you truly don’t have to but if you personally want to, it’s up to you to decide as only you know what you need at which part of your face.
why don't you numb your face? before to avoid the pain 🤷♀️
Because numbing creams create inflame my skin. I have very sensitive skin. I can handle the pain but it’s not nice.
What is it calleð,the brand?
Dr.Pen 🙏🏻
Ok... I will stay to my roller 😳 thank you Iveta and have a nice weekend 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
You are like no thank you 😂😂😂
You need some numbing cream.
After 4 years of doing it without it. I may be just fine without it
I use dr pen ones a month 0.75-1mm on my without numbing cream. For me it s not painfull, The results are incredible
....it s the best thing u can do fkr your skin
Wow that is amazing. I guess you have high pain tolerance or maybe practice makes you handle it better. 100% it’s a great treatment 🙏🏻
On your cheeks as well? How deep do u go there?
How is this the correct technique when the Dr. Pen’s indications are to swipe it and make circles on the skin? This technique your doing is good for Vivace/Morpheus, not Dermapen/Dr. Pen.
Sometimes common sense has to be used. If you like to slide and scratch your face that is your choice, I use my device to improve my skin based on what it actually does. It’s home device not the professional device they have in salons. So when I saw it’s scratching my skin while sliding it, I stopped immediately because that would create permanent damage.
@@IvetParris This is misinformation, it doesn’t scratch your skin! It creates controled little wounds so obviously your skin will bleed a little, but the pins go back and forth, you’re not rolling them like with a Dermaroller so scratching with this device is impossible. At least change the title of the video into “my method of using Dr. Pen device” because some people might actually believe that the right indications are a mistake. So again, no, it doesn’t scratch your skin if you do the motions that the producer tells you to do. They know what they’re talking about. I’ve been using this device all over my body for a long time now and can 100% say that you should in fact do circle motions and lines. Also, these devices are used in salons by aestheticians and dermatologists as well.
She made us confuse lols ‘
I had great results done by a professiobal who did not stamp it.
@@IvetParris actually medspas and doctors use the devices we use at home. There is literally no difference.
Don't be mistaken. I have Dr. Pen M8 and fitted with 36 pin cartridge is unable to penetrate even a piece of paper. To be honest minimum 5 kg of pressure is required to stick a pack of 36 pins in human skin. This device is absolutely powerless to do such performance. And respectively useless. What you do using it is mostly skin massage. Not microneedling.
Suuureeee. We all have the right for opinion.
One's opinion doesn't change the fact that the needles do not stick into your skin. Otherwise you would be bleeding and experiencing pain as it should be :)
So which pen works
I guess no electric pen really works. Unless it is fitted with a cartridge with no more than 3 needles. Then it might be able to stick them thorougly. I also have a manual derma stamp with 32 needles and I know how hard is to stick that many needles into the skin. I barely manage to stick them thanks to my strong muscles. Human skin is incredibly tough. @@manifestingmaren
@@manifestingmaren Dr Pen works, it depends on how is your setting which you can adjust. I personally prefer to use minimal length on bones and I adjust it on more fatty areas which need more length. I definitely experienced pain and if I went deeper with higher length the above requested bleeding would be there as well but be careful going to deep at home, it's better to do deep micro needling in doctor office. Our skin is delicate, not made of steel so high pressure is not needed.
This is the way
🙏🏻 indeed
How many times should we go in single direction?
Well I think it truly depends on your skin condition and needs. Depending on your setting but you get multiple stamps while holding the pen in a place. I go back only if I feel like I need more depth, mainly cheeks.