Joji's following would be much smaller if it weren't for his previous work, he would've been buried amongst the endless void of soundcloud rappers/producers/R&B musicians.
ekmad I think he tends to sound this way but he has the potential to grow above that if he really tries. As of now he doesn’t seem confident enough to do new shit rather than just sound like other stuff.
Sil3ntKn1ght I feel like some people vibe with joji and don't know filthy frank, because fans of that side of him do exist. I don't think his entire following is franku barnacles, considering most fell off because joji's music wasn't as good to them and the in tongues EP was a bit of a turnoff. I wouldn't cal ballads1 boring personally, but I can see why people hate it. Joji sounds pretty sleepy and that sleepy delivery is heavily over saturated in mainstream. People are tired of that. I sill think joji is able to carry a melody much stronger than most mumbly artists out there whether it be a mumble rapper or whatever. And there is no way joji is in the same breath as other youtubers who dived into music. Joji for one, converted to it and is a committed artist in the music industry, unlike a beached viner like a Paul brother or a ricegum, or a bobby burns, who ambitious as he is still fell flat. I also enjoy the instrumentals on ballads1. Aside of the obvious, slow dancing in the dark, I'll see you in 40 tho it drags near the end, wanted u, no fun, can't get over you, are all decent tracks to me on the record. Not everything is fantastic but there's nothing completely detestable here either. It's a strong 6.
As much as I love Joji, I agree that he wouldn’t have the success he has (at least to the extent of his success rn) in the music industry if it wasn’t for the filthy frank fan base
And that's partially the reason I'm pissed he did not say farewell on the channel. Instead, his last video is just one last attempt to cash in on his fanbase.
@@mixedmusictrash7052 I know the Reddit page agree on it, but the problem was that if you tried to bring it up, people would just call you entitled and mad. I really do want someone major to bring it up now that it's been almost a year.
@@Guymanbot97 idk, i think finishing up the lore albeit in book form isnt such a terrible way to end it. What kind of farewell video do you think would be appropriate then?
@@reignmyster 1. That book didn't even wrap up the lore. In fact I'm pretty sure people agree it was more of an alternative take on the universe. 2. Really him as George saying goodbye would have been good enough. People accepted him as Joji towards the end, so I doubt it would have been a repeat of the Joji vlog incident.
Don't tell Joji I said this, he's a good boy and I want him to be happy. His music can be replaced with elevator music and someone crying in the shower, and you would not be able to tell the difference.
I miss filthy Frank, it’s funny at the start of 2017 Joji said that it would be the filthiest year yet and then he just fucking stops Filthy Frank all together
I think he pretty level headed seeing how he defends Arianna, besides the worst thing Joji has done is quit a project that has had medical ramifications to his wellbeing in contrast to an exploration of something he really wants to do
Devon Palmer People act like saying this is some “unpopular opinion” or “hot take” even though this shits colder than an ice bath, no shit he’s popular because of frank
The take is that he wouldnt be able to be popular unless he did the FF thing. If he had just started on the scene as Joji then he would have not have gotten any ground swell. I agree with that though since FF music > Joji music.
I really loved the Chloe Burbank songs Joji dropped on Spotify while he was still doing Filthy Frank videos. They were interesting, the beats had some cool sounds, and they were chill. I feel like 88rising has diluted him a bit. Don't get me wrong, his music videos are really cool and the songs do have an appealing sound. It's just gotten to the point where a lot of the recent songs sound like different parts of the same song. "Thom", "you suck charlie", and some of the other old Spotify tracks were all unique in some way while all of the projects since 88rising sound very samey. Also, I agree that he is the one pushing 88rising up. I would've had no idea they existed if I didn't go to their channel through him being featured. They do have other slightly bigger names now but Joji was the one who got me to see their channel in the first place.
Chole Burbank was supposed to be his opening to music so he started with very basic music, and I think the new joji is the person that joji wants to be. I wish he unlocks his vocals. He harmonizes his voice in BALLADS 1 just a tad bit too much. I think the way he sings on slow dancing in the dark is perfect for him.
Opinion: Joji is always so depressed and moody because he incorporates into his music the fact he knows his past as Filthy Frank pretty much defines his success and he will never be able to escape it. He is forever tied to that association and people will have a hard time respecting his music career on it's own merits. To be fair I think if Joji had ended his career as Filthy Frank a bit more gracefully and less as a bait and switch to his fandom, people would respect his music career a lot more. You can't make a video making fun of fake internet rappers, then become one.
This is a good comment. And I agree with the whole "end it gracefully" thing. His fanbase was (still is?) growing fast. There could he people who binge all of his stuff. And what do you think their reaction will be when the last video he has posted is just one last attempt to cash in on them? Like seriously. Towards the end I felt more used than anything else. It's because everyone bought Pink Season that he got where he was, and he thanks us by just trying to get more of our money before he jumps ship.
I was newish to the Frank fun right before he dipped. (I did know about Harlem Shake and a few random things before). When he said he was gonna do more but deleted some videos, didn't release some and then said thanks all, I'm done... that gets some people being like ".....where's my Frank stuff?" I'm happy he gets do what he wants, but still, could have been alot more graceful in the departure.
Cill Wrelia I mean if you look at my comment I was definitely responding to the idea that she wrote the song about Mac dying in a dismissive way but okay bud, enjoy your day
For me, I listened to Joji for 2 months straight before actually realizing he was Filthy Frank, and that was after that Vice news article came out. I found him through the suggested lo-fi playlists on youtube and I think a lot of other people did too, because a lot of people I talk to STILL don't know that Joji used to be FilthyFrank. A lot of people in the comments say that Joji's music isn't even good or creative, but I really enjoy his music and have yet to find another artist like him that I like. I think most people saying that used to be Filthy Frank fans and are salty that he stopped being Filthy Frank and can't get over it.
Literally this, i found him through music first and i fucking love all of his work (frank and pink guy included). Obvs having the platform that he did when he switched to music fulltime pushed his career forward that isn't a secret. He got himself a lot of connections in the music industry while doing his pink guy stuff and he used them well. There are so many artists out there who become world famous by being born into money or because their parent's knew the right people, being mad at joji for working his way into the industry through the connections he got by working his ass off as filthy frank is just plain stupid.
If Joji is only famous because of Filthy Frank then Childish Gambino is only famous because of Community. Even if it's true for both of them it doesn't take away the raw talent they each possess.
Bruh I'm high as fuck. I took your comment to mean that Joji is a manifestation of chaos and sadness, and as such, Filthy Frank is birthed from that very well of mental anguish and instability. Hence without the Joji character, Filthy Frank would be but a shallow imitation of his shitposting self. But now I see you were doing a joke thing that flew over my head. ....I need to stop smoking weed so early in the morning.
@@bwn2k532 yeah, that's melon's opinion. But I think he had a couple of actually good tracks, as well as the peep guy. At the same time I can't name a single joji's above average track even though I heard them all. Even some pink guy's tracks are better than joji in general.
Let me get this straight > art criticism is art > anthony makes album reviews > Anthony is making art (?) > I criticize his reviews in the comments, making me an art critic (??) > I'm an artist (???) > If anyone reading this agrees with me or calls me dumb, they are criticizing my art, and are therefore artists as well (?!?!)
He mentioned effort being a part of it. Merely doing it effortlessly like this isn't much. If this is art this is merely a single dot on the back of a bathroom door.
Wait wtf? Look at derrick comedy vids. Look at community. He was a great, semi-known actor before he started rapping and before he became big as childish gambino. Bruh why people act like he ain't done nothin with his life til he started rapping
@@TheKozzee That why I said "maybe". Childish Gambino fully cemented his reputation as a multi-talent, but that wasn't the one that made him fully famous. He was already (kind of) well-established because of his time in Community.
unfortunately i do have to admit Joji would probably not suceed without FF, not because he's not talented but because even talented people have incredible trouble getting traction
peterpansie5 you can say is not your type of music which is an okay opinion, but you can’t call him a bad artist. People forget he’s not trying to be Beyoncé, Chris brown or Miguel. His music is basically surrounded by depression and sex 😂 and his music sound depressing. Therefore he’s actually doing what he’s supposed to be doing which makes him a good artist. If you don’t match the Style the going for then your not a good artist, but he is
I hate to be so hard but Joji really is boring to me, he sound like many other artists that do this kinda sadboy rnb music nowadays, if it wasn't for Filthy Frank I would have just ignored him as another kid with a laptop and I wouldn't even listen to it since much of that genre is so full of crap nowadays. If he just came out in the scene today with no prior fame he wouldn't have made it as far as he did, that's for sure. Fantano wouldn't even be here talking about it if he wasn't friends with the guy prior, for how much he tries to sound detached and critical I'm sorry to say that when it come to joji he really tries to go nice on him, he says all this stuff about his music but when I listen to it it sounds bland and already-heard elsewhere.
Regi wether he's boring or not, it doesn't really matter. Just let him do whatever he want. Doing a filthy Frank video literally put him in the hospital. Not just that, the hardwork that put him to make filthy Frank video doesn't profit him anyway. Of course he gain popularity and fame but because of the RUclips algorithm, it's completely fucked him over.
Asmaul Husna yes it does matter, if Anthony didn’t know him personally before do you think he’d do a review of anythin he puts out since it sounds like any one who makes this sadboy r&b formulaic songs? No he wouldn’t. Plus I don’t care that his FF vids put him in the hospital, his music isn’t anything special and just doesn’t have the need to becreviewed by anthony, he probablyvwould have skipped all of it if it wasn’t for his previous presence on the internet. The problem is not about what he does or what he can do, he can do anything he wants, that’s not the problem, the problem is that if it was by hos music’s merits he wouldn’t be where he is now.
It´s true that Joji probably wouldn´t be nearly as big without his prior internet fame. However I think it´s important to note that there is absolutely nothing negative about this. Think of it sort of like a business man who sells his shares in one company to start up another. The only difference being that instead of it being a financial capital it is a cultural one.
It's just cuz hip hop is the most popular and significant genre. In an alternate universe where polka music reigns, polka would pull in all his viewers.
Isnt it kind of obvious that fame carries over? I don’t think thats a hot take at all. No one can say how big or small joji would be without previous RUclips succes
It's also not exactly unfair that those who were interested in what you created in the past may still be interested in what you create in the future, even if you take it in a completely different direction. That filthy frank fanbase wasn't built in a day.
I'd appreciate it if Joji kinda blended the comedic hip hop elements of his FF releases and the ultra moody and sad music he's doing now. My fav example would be "Fried Noodles", "Rice Balls", "Weird McDonalds Rap" (Tribute to Ronald), and more recently "No Fun". I think then George would stand out so much more and have more credibility imo. EDIT: I want him to RAP verses and sing choruses, he can say so much more and songs will have so much more dynamic.
I completely agree, the Fried Noodles chorus hits differently after the crass (in a good way) rap lines. Though I fear he doesn't mix the two styles now in order to distinguish himself from his Filthy Frank persona.
@@AbsurdistLemon idgi tho he could just merely incorporate elements of his Pink Guy albums to his current generic RnB tone. That wouldnt hospitalize him.
I agree, I don't think a large number of Joji's fans would spend their time trying to analyze his songs if he wasn't famous before; and they just listen and take the time to listen to his moaning lyrics because he used to be Filthy Frank.
0:37 Joji would be nothing without Filthy Frank 1:02 Art criticism in and of itself is and should be considered art 1:45 Quality control is responsible for the downfall of acts like Migos and Lil Baby to an extent 2:21 The League Of Legends K-Pop song is actually very enjoyable 2:36 You Won't Get What You Want is overrated garbage 3:46 I don't understand your beef with HiatusKaiyote 5:00 Ariana Grande is making songs refrencing Mac Miller just for the money from his passing 7:00 There's no point in watching Bohemian Rhapsody with all the previous documentaries available 8:01 One's first exposure to an artist they like will typically end up being their favorite album 8:44 Simon And Garfunkel are the original Twenty One Pilots 9:05 A lot of the detractors of math rock, jazz fusion and prog hypocritcally put it off as "souless wanking" 10:26 The music from Sunday mass slaps regardless of your beliefs 10:56 Frank Ocean is just Morrissey for the Snapchat generation... in a good way 11:07 Most of the highest rated albums from you doesn't go well for casual listening
People say that but almost all joji fans have no idea who filthy frank is lol. Because most filthy frank fans hate joji so they don't even listen to it.
I feel like I've said this before, but I love how you start your videos with the topic in the title. It doesn't beat around the bush or force viewers to stick around and I respect it wholeheartedly.
most people here arguing that FF is the reason for Joji's fame are completely sleeping on 88rising's involvement. he seamlessly went from Frank to Joji in the public eye thanks to 88r's management only, without them he'd be still releasing soundcloud songs and FF merch.
GKMC is his masterpiece and I don't know if he'll ever top it, but after that, I'd rather listen to S.80 over anything else. It was my introduction to Kendrick and I can't deny that has something to do with my love for it, but every time I hear that crackling fire I'm just IN, you know?
I understand not liking daughters new album entirely. But the hatred I’ve seen towards it is weird to me. Maybe it’s because I generally don’t hate any music quite in that way, like aggressive hatred. I just have a hard time respecting criticism when it’s so aggressive but with no appreciation for what the artist may have been trying to do or for what it genuinely does well in their eyes. Criticism as shallow as “it sucks and I hate it” and nothing more is valid, sure, but it’s also lazy and feels extremely vapid to me. The whole “I cOuLd Do tHaT” argument for avant-garde/experimental art is bogus too. If you can do it, do it. And just because you can do it doesn’t invalidate somebody else doing it. Let’s say you can draw very well, but are you going to go up to a drawing in a museum and honestly be like “I could do that”? Like context, intent, and artistic vision is important and thinking all that matters in art is the physical ability to do it is fucking shallow and pretty stupid.
What I find funny (as someone who loves the album) is how polarizing it is. You either love it or you hate it. Noise Rock, and the album in particular is really harsh. Harsh music isn't exactly mainstream or casually listenable. Also, anyone who says they can replicate the musicianship of Daughters is downright naive as fuck. They can say it's random notes if they want, but anyone with ears would know that's false.
@@joshyjoshyjosh a band with guitars that sound like a horror circus is a diamond in this rhinestone wave of rock. Nothing like it will exist for a loooong time before people begin picking up on it. That's why no one can casually claim " i CaN dO tHaT"
0:45 I'm not sure about this, but Joji didn't tell too much about his 'Joji' project, people just randomly found the soundcloud and listened to it over and over again. Then he realised it was the smartest choice for him to go.
I love Filthy Frank but who actually likes Joji as an artist? Frank was a better artist when he was using the Pink Guy motif, even if it was silly as hell it had a lot more gas in it's tank
extra funny to me given that FF calls out people saying what he was doing was less artistically valid than his Joji shit, then completely drops the FF persona for Joji
@@mikepence1933 You got it Mr.VP. I remember him defending his pink guy stuff repeatedly, only to than give up the brand he cherished. I wouldn't be surprised if he got tired of being associated with his youtube, but to do such a sudden gear shift will leave a lot of fans not caring.
@@montengro234 I really enjoy the Joji music, and I also really enjoyed all the Pink Guy and Filthy Frank stuff, but he didn't just leave because he didn't care. By the time he left his youtube career was already unsustainable because of RUclips standards. Plus he had health issue which he had discussed on the channel at least two years before leaving, and no one cared. The channel gave him depression and he also started developing stress seizures. To say he just completely abandoned FF is unfair seeing as he did it longer than he wanted to. Even if you dislike the music you have to give him credit where credit is due for the transition.
@@serot0nergic I do respect frank as an artist but I find it hard to respect Joji with how plain and flavorless his music is. I respect your opinion too, even if I really don't get it. I don't believe that fully to be perfectly honest. He put himself into that situation, he made prank videos and that kinda content. I get why that's stressful, but he himself chose to do that. He could have ranted about shit in his room and not been so extreme. He could have changed his content slightly.
This made me extremely happy to know there’s people like you out there. I make music, and my biggest fear is releasing something that’s “just a club banger” after watching this I wanted to go straight to the studio, but I’m on a business trip so I’m sad haha. I liked the vid Very insightful, especially the section.80 part, I loved that album but it definitely doesn’t tell as good a story as the latter two. Cheers
Melon would be nothing wihtout him He've created a monster, 'cause nobody wants to see Melon no more They want Cal, He's chopped liver Well if you want Cal, then this is what he'll give ya
The new Daughters album is totally fine for casual listening. I folded laundry to that album today, I cooked, I did dishes; maybe I am confusing what the person means by "Casual listening".
@@allisonfazekas4 I agree but apparently you like death grips, the nerve to insult another artist when you like generic boring hipster noise trash is kind of jarring. 🤮
I doubt he'd have been recognised as an artist on soundcloud w/o his internet persona cause there's sooo many people out there trying to get heard. However, he is turning out to be quite successful as himself which I can't really grant to the FF franchise cause the jump from youtube to music is drastic and most people fail. I don't think the people who caused him to go #1 on hip hop billboard are the same people who watched his yt vids. so basically i think he needed it to become known in the first place but now he's made a name for himself unrelated to frank
I gotta say I actually like the Chloe Burbank experiment Joji/FF did, genuinely I liked those songs and listen to them still. But this new stuff, yeeesh, not my style tbh. Anyway me like joji I want him to be happy. Peas
@@jacky8129 You know why. 15-16 year olds that are currently the kids with enough time to keep spreading shit around as if they just found some original brand new classic to take in as life's truth and gospel. When in reality any low-effort loser can mumble a bit with a victim-complex and a lofi beat can play the game on easy mode. Brooding teenagers are a cruse.
Criticism will always be beneath art. While it does take some skill to be an effective and FAIR critic, it will never hold a candle to what goes into making art. To be a critic all you need these days is an opinion and the ability to write at a 6th grade level. Damn near everyone is closer to that than being an artist. Criticism is important, but is never more important than the actual art. A lot of these critics just like to puff themselves up and act like they essential.
Actually, it's a lot deeper than that. Nerd culture and internet culture in general has just shaped the critic into somebody with an opinion, not somebody who is able to dissect and analyze a piece of work.
Yes his following would’ve been much smaller but I still think he would’ve made it without filthy frank, ever since the first time I heard his stuff I was never in the mindset of “I have to like this because I like filthy frank” I just liked it for what it was and I think many people too
False, if you go around and ask Joji fans if they knew who Filthy Frank was or if they knew it was Joji, a great majority of them would say no. The FF fanbase won't even touch his music simply because it's not FF, which proves that he worked his way up and became popular because his music is simply good.
NotAPlayer you see all the people talking shit about his earlier releases such as in tongues? The people who disliked it were either his FF fan base acting pissed since they don’t have pApA fRaNkU anymore, or regular music listeners who gave him too much shit. He started off with a lot of people not liking his music, but now you see his face in the center of Times Square; the dude was worked form the ground up, with very little help of his FF fanbase
Oh wow I know Joji's your friend Anthony but you don't have to call him 'Zipperhead without a slanted eye" fifteen times over in three minutes just because he's half Australian!
Let's Argue: Melon Would be Nothing Without Cal Chuchesta
More like Let's Agree
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Love the Converge artwork
Melon Would be Nothing Without ThatIsThePlan
nice profile pic
Anthony dodging that first question like a speeding bullet to heaven
DarklordofDOOM57
I'd want to dodge anything about remembering the time a nigga ate my toenails for a bit he no longer does or enjoys
Yeah, what the fuck was that? Can someone inform me of the financial/employer ties here?
Anthony is literally best friends with Joji, of course he's gonna defend him no matter what.
@@GodsNode watch a lore video on filthy Frank.
But........he answered it.
Did you fucking miss the literal FIRST question?
Joji's following would be much smaller if it weren't for his previous work, he would've been buried amongst the endless void of soundcloud rappers/producers/R&B musicians.
Rightly so.
Joji is not special, it's boring and generic. The only reason I, and many others, even bothered checking it out is because of Frank and PinkGuy.
ekmad I think he tends to sound this way but he has the potential to grow above that if he really tries. As of now he doesn’t seem confident enough to do new shit rather than just sound like other stuff.
Sil3ntKn1ght he is in 88rising, even without frank lots of people would’ve heard him
Sil3ntKn1ght I feel like some people vibe with joji and don't know filthy frank, because fans of that side of him do exist. I don't think his entire following is franku barnacles, considering most fell off because joji's music wasn't as good to them and the in tongues EP was a bit of a turnoff. I wouldn't cal ballads1 boring personally, but I can see why people hate it. Joji sounds pretty sleepy and that sleepy delivery is heavily over saturated in mainstream. People are tired of that. I sill think joji is able to carry a melody much stronger than most mumbly artists out there whether it be a mumble rapper or whatever. And there is no way joji is in the same breath as other youtubers who dived into music. Joji for one, converted to it and is a committed artist in the music industry, unlike a beached viner like a Paul brother or a ricegum, or a bobby burns, who ambitious as he is still fell flat. I also enjoy the instrumentals on ballads1. Aside of the obvious, slow dancing in the dark, I'll see you in 40 tho it drags near the end, wanted u, no fun, can't get over you, are all decent tracks to me on the record. Not everything is fantastic but there's nothing completely detestable here either. It's a strong 6.
joji would be nothing without preteens with self diagnosed depression
And emos.
The ones frank made fun of..
papa franku lives on
Well said
Jojo pulled FF out back and put a bullet in its head. Then he dolled the corpse up as shitty low-fi emo hip hop and r&b
That Critikal bit brought the biggest smile to my face. I miss the Meme Review era Melon man
WHERE WAS IT AND HOW DID I MISS IT
thatistheplan. used to be fantano’s meme channel
LMFAO
meme review is a pewdiepie thing that melon references
As much as I love Joji, I agree that he wouldn’t have the success he has (at least to the extent of his success rn) in the music industry if it wasn’t for the filthy frank fan base
And that's partially the reason I'm pissed he did not say farewell on the channel. Instead, his last video is just one last attempt to cash in on his fanbase.
Daniel Silva YES I totally agree and I like joji but that shit made me mad and I’m surprised that no one has talked about it
@@mixedmusictrash7052 I know the Reddit page agree on it, but the problem was that if you tried to bring it up, people would just call you entitled and mad. I really do want someone major to bring it up now that it's been almost a year.
@@Guymanbot97 idk, i think finishing up the lore albeit in book form isnt such a terrible way to end it. What kind of farewell video do you think would be appropriate then?
@@reignmyster 1. That book didn't even wrap up the lore. In fact I'm pretty sure people agree it was more of an alternative take on the universe.
2. Really him as George saying goodbye would have been good enough. People accepted him as Joji towards the end, so I doubt it would have been a repeat of the Joji vlog incident.
_Joji makes music for people who have Sad Bart VHS profile pics._
DammitSinged why is this comment so loud
Very true
LMAOOOOO
And "aesthetic" instagrams
Congrats you made me actually laugh out loud
LET'S AGREE: Fantano would be nothing without Cal Chuchesta
*Fantano would be nothing without thatistheplan
@@scotchtape_8713 *Fantano would be nothing without his teeth (they're the best in the game)
@@nutntubear Their actually Cal's teeth
Ja Rule LETS AGREE: Suicide squad would be nothing without edgy teenagers
Gamerpro xzz this reply is underrated
Don't tell Joji I said this, he's a good boy and I want him to be happy.
His music can be replaced with elevator music and someone crying in the shower, and you would not be able to tell the difference.
Rowdy Boy i feel the same way lol. i love joji so much but i feel ya
Lmfao Joji seems like a cool guy but you’re on point with that.
Lol I’m imagining that it’s hilarious
That scenario was actually the original video idea of slow dancing in the dark lol.
Deadass hit it on the head he was better when no one knew he made music idk wtf happened he had great melodies b4
I miss filthy Frank, it’s funny at the start of 2017 Joji said that it would be the filthiest year yet and then he just fucking stops Filthy Frank all together
in a way it WAS the filthiest year,
filthiest slap to the face that is
If you ask me, that was fucking filthy allright
He didn't say that it would be the filthiest year yet, he said that he would go rogue. And he kinda did.
Anthony would have been nothing without ThatIsThePlan
F
Too soon
lets agree: thatistheplan was a sadder death than stan lee
tbh its the other way around
That Vagina review made me his fan. One of the few reviews I actually agree with.
Let's argue antony would criticise joji way more if they weren't friends.
Ohhhhhhhhh, is that what it is?
I think he pretty level headed seeing how he defends Arianna, besides the worst thing Joji has done is quit a project that has had medical ramifications to his wellbeing in contrast to an exploration of something he really wants to do
No shit, building up a fanbase for years made it easier for joji’s voice to be heard when he broke into music.
Devon Palmer People act like saying this is some “unpopular opinion” or “hot take” even though this shits colder than an ice bath, no shit he’s popular because of frank
The take is that he wouldnt be able to be popular unless he did the FF thing. If he had just started on the scene as Joji then he would have not have gotten any ground swell.
I agree with that though since FF music > Joji music.
Considering his first channel's name was "DizastaMusic", I'd say that was loosely his plan from the start
When filthy frank ate melons toe nails in that cake he became joji. Fact
Shit
That was a fake fucking Frank tho.
Lmao I forgot that happened
Scott Bruckner wdym
@@scottbruckner4653 explain
the thumbnail looks like frank grabbed anthony and is going in for a kiss.
*pink guy
I was gonna say that
CR1TIKAL? IN MY FANTANO? ITS MORE LIKELY THAN YOU THINK
keybladeboy i was searching for a comment acknowledging the king slapper
My FAVORITES
WHAT VIDEO IS THIS
Gerardo Munoz Esquivel +1
They did a podcast If you haven't know already
Let's Argue: This episode would be nothing without Cr1tikal
It increases this episode's moisture by 150%.
Any idea where that clip is from?
Qatar Jack1711 I gotchu fam
clips.twitch.tv/SuspiciousMagnificentFoxPJSalt
Sad that he isn't moist for the new daughters album
I mean nobody new melon till he was on the official podcast. He should just give his career to the official boys.
Let's argue: Anthony is disregarding his fans to avoid having to review the Persona 5 OST.
ygsr Let’s AGREE
I really loved the Chloe Burbank songs Joji dropped on Spotify while he was still doing Filthy Frank videos. They were interesting, the beats had some cool sounds, and they were chill. I feel like 88rising has diluted him a bit.
Don't get me wrong, his music videos are really cool and the songs do have an appealing sound. It's just gotten to the point where a lot of the recent songs sound like different parts of the same song. "Thom", "you suck charlie", and some of the other old Spotify tracks were all unique in some way while all of the projects since 88rising sound very samey.
Also, I agree that he is the one pushing 88rising up. I would've had no idea they existed if I didn't go to their channel through him being featured. They do have other slightly bigger names now but Joji was the one who got me to see their channel in the first place.
Chole Burbank was supposed to be his opening to music so he started with very basic music, and I think the new joji is the person that joji wants to be. I wish he unlocks his vocals. He harmonizes his voice in BALLADS 1 just a tad bit too much. I think the way he sings on slow dancing in the dark is perfect for him.
@Griffin Nadeau yes absolutely! 88⬆ is what joji needed
I think Rich Chigga was the forst one who really blew them up
@@9yearoldepicgamersoldier129 both were major contributors but let's not make 88 seem bad by saying that joji or Brian basically why 88 made it
You Suck Charlie is probably my favorite Joji song
Opinion: Joji is always so depressed and moody because he incorporates into his music the fact he knows his past as Filthy Frank pretty much defines his success and he will never be able to escape it. He is forever tied to that association and people will have a hard time respecting his music career on it's own merits. To be fair I think if Joji had ended his career as Filthy Frank a bit more gracefully and less as a bait and switch to his fandom, people would respect his music career a lot more. You can't make a video making fun of fake internet rappers, then become one.
This is a good comment. And I agree with the whole "end it gracefully" thing. His fanbase was (still is?) growing fast. There could he people who binge all of his stuff. And what do you think their reaction will be when the last video he has posted is just one last attempt to cash in on them? Like seriously. Towards the end I felt more used than anything else. It's because everyone bought Pink Season that he got where he was, and he thanks us by just trying to get more of our money before he jumps ship.
I was newish to the Frank fun right before he dipped. (I did know about Harlem Shake and a few random things before). When he said he was gonna do more but deleted some videos, didn't release some and then said thanks all, I'm done... that gets some people being like ".....where's my Frank stuff?" I'm happy he gets do what he wants, but still, could have been alot more graceful in the departure.
But he was making sad moody music way before he stopped the filthy frank thing
he released songs from chloe burbank like a year and a half before he stopped making filthy frank videos
But he isn't rapping...
*Boyfriend dies*
Ariana Grande: thank u, next
SofaKingAwesome23 that’s just not how it happened. The song was a response to her ended engagement. Thank u, next
Jeremiah Williams the song overall just isn’t that good
Cill Wrelia an opinion that frankly has 0 to do with my comment
Jeremiah Williams okie dokie my guy
Cill Wrelia I mean if you look at my comment I was definitely responding to the idea that she wrote the song about Mac dying in a dismissive way but okay bud, enjoy your day
The takeaway I got from this is that Melon rates Axel F’s Crazy Frog album a 10/10 for casual listening.
CR1TIKAL IN A FANTANO VIDEO MY WORLDS ARE COLLIDING HOLY F U C K
do you know which critikal video that is?
antoine was a guest on cr1t's podcast
@@elpapichulo4046 Wish I knew.
timestamp?
@@chubeatle 3:37
Let’s Argue: This video is clickbait because he only talked about Joji for 30 seconds of a 13 minute video.
true
How is that clickbait? You got what you came for
hey at least he put it at the beginning of the video instead of at the end.
Mhm
That's not what clickbait is, you literally clicked on the video to see that and you got it
For me, I listened to Joji for 2 months straight before actually realizing he was Filthy Frank, and that was after that Vice news article came out. I found him through the suggested lo-fi playlists on youtube and I think a lot of other people did too, because a lot of people I talk to STILL don't know that Joji used to be FilthyFrank. A lot of people in the comments say that Joji's music isn't even good or creative, but I really enjoy his music and have yet to find another artist like him that I like. I think most people saying that used to be Filthy Frank fans and are salty that he stopped being Filthy Frank and can't get over it.
You found him cause his fans were filthy frank fans and listened to Joji music
Literally this, i found him through music first and i fucking love all of his work (frank and pink guy included). Obvs having the platform that he did when he switched to music fulltime pushed his career forward that isn't a secret. He got himself a lot of connections in the music industry while doing his pink guy stuff and he used them well. There are so many artists out there who become world famous by being born into money or because their parent's knew the right people, being mad at joji for working his way into the industry through the connections he got by working his ass off as filthy frank is just plain stupid.
This isn't even something to argue, Jojis music sounds like he's overdosing on Xanax
He was overdosing on cocaine before.
Xancane?
Probably cos he is
Clark Drake to be fair Ive seen niggas do both at the same time
Joji would be nothing
He wouldnt be as popular but he would still have a following
You’re right, joji would’ve been nothing without jojivlogs
Joji *IS nothing
wrong but go off
@@Spookiec o m g i s t h a t j o j i v l o g s
The money store and kids see ghosts are packed with bangers I'd vibe to casually.
yes
Kids see ghost?
Yes.
The money story?
Not really.
@@Brokenscam I listen to it on my walk home
Brokenscam your ears are broken
@@Brokenscam I've Seen Footage is a banger and I'd argue anyone who says otherwise.
Lmao wtf why is Charles in here blowing his brass? What a gorgeous man.
which video is that anyone know?
Bro sauce?
Sauce?
Gonna need that sauce.
its been 2 fucking years, Im still looking for the sauce
If Joji is only famous because of Filthy Frank then Childish Gambino is only famous because of Community. Even if it's true for both of them it doesn't take away the raw talent they each possess.
convinced that Anthony only makes these vids to flex his bass skills
Boon skills and bass in same sentence
he only makes these vids to flex cr1tikal's trombone skills
Unpopular opinion: Filthy Frank would be nothing without Jojivlogs
#bringbackjojivlogs
Never a truer truth has been spoken, i declare this the truest of truths
IS THAT JOJIVLOGS????
Fact: Jojivlogs would be nothing without dizastamusic
Bruh I'm high as fuck. I took your comment to mean that Joji is a manifestation of chaos and sadness, and as such, Filthy Frank is birthed from that very well of mental anguish and instability. Hence without the Joji character, Filthy Frank would be but a shallow imitation of his shitposting self.
But now I see you were doing a joke thing that flew over my head.
....I need to stop smoking weed so early in the morning.
lofi hip hop radio - beats to relax/study to
> Joji
Anything else>lo fi hip hop study>joji
Lofi beats > joji > xxxwomenbeater
@feldspato 3.0 - clash royale e outros games no
@@bwn2k532 yeah, that's melon's opinion. But I think he had a couple of actually good tracks, as well as the peep guy. At the same time I can't name a single joji's above average track even though I heard them all. Even some pink guy's tracks are better than joji in general.
@@Larsenn71 Well damn let us have opinions
Let me get this straight
> art criticism is art
> anthony makes album reviews
> Anthony is making art (?)
> I criticize his reviews in the comments, making me an art critic (??)
> I'm an artist (???)
> If anyone reading this agrees with me or calls me dumb, they are criticizing my art, and are therefore artists as well (?!?!)
He didn’t say all art criticism is art, he said it can sometimes be art.
He mentioned effort being a part of it.
Merely doing it effortlessly like this isn't much.
If this is art this is merely a single dot on the back of a bathroom door.
yes
If Pink Guy was mainstream, things would've been different...
*it would've been a lot darker*
Pink Season went fuckin viral tho.
Donald Glover would be nothing without Childish Gambino
Well.... maybe? I mean the Childish persona did make Donald not just another comedic actor, but a multifaceted talent, so...
Wait wtf? Look at derrick comedy vids. Look at community. He was a great, semi-known actor before he started rapping and before he became big as childish gambino. Bruh why people act like he ain't done nothin with his life til he started rapping
@@TheKozzee That why I said "maybe". Childish Gambino fully cemented his reputation as a multi-talent, but that wasn't the one that made him fully famous. He was already (kind of) well-established because of his time in Community.
straight untruths, Glover was and is a fantastic actor and comic before he was Gambino.
lmao what
He was a writer for 30 Rock after Tina Fey saw him doing standup, he would've had a fulfilling career without rapping at all
Anthony, you didn't review a Stan Lee album recently, did you?
Jamie Conway rip
Black Panther Soundtrack
@@peterpansie5 _Holy shit. Oh my god_
lol...…..…........................…….wow
>not reviewing Stan Lee's death
unfortunately i do have to admit Joji would probably not suceed without FF, not because he's not talented but because even talented people have incredible trouble getting traction
Max this and also he’s not talented and makes bad music
peterpansie5 he doesn’t really make bad music, it’s just unbelievably basic shit that sounds like a Xanax overdose
Cill Wrelia depends on your definition of bad music I guess
peterpansie5 you can say is not your type of music which is an okay opinion, but you can’t call him a bad artist.
People forget he’s not trying to be Beyoncé, Chris brown or Miguel. His music is basically surrounded by depression and sex 😂 and his music sound depressing. Therefore he’s actually doing what he’s supposed to be doing which makes him a good artist.
If you don’t match the Style the going for then your not a good artist, but he is
Emani lee or you a good artist if you make good music and he doesn’t
I hate to be so hard but Joji really is boring to me, he sound like many other artists that do this kinda sadboy rnb music nowadays, if it wasn't for Filthy Frank I would have just ignored him as another kid with a laptop and I wouldn't even listen to it since much of that genre is so full of crap nowadays. If he just came out in the scene today with no prior fame he wouldn't have made it as far as he did, that's for sure. Fantano wouldn't even be here talking about it if he wasn't friends with the guy prior, for how much he tries to sound detached and critical I'm sorry to say that when it come to joji he really tries to go nice on him, he says all this stuff about his music but when I listen to it it sounds bland and already-heard elsewhere.
I don't know what your talking about with him going nice. Everytime he has reviewed any project of his he has been giving it kind of bad scores.
Regi wether he's boring or not, it doesn't really matter. Just let him do whatever he want. Doing a filthy Frank video literally put him in the hospital. Not just that, the hardwork that put him to make filthy Frank video doesn't profit him anyway. Of course he gain popularity and fame but because of the RUclips algorithm, it's completely fucked him over.
Asmaul Husna yes it does matter, if Anthony didn’t know him personally before do you think he’d do a review of anythin he puts out since it sounds like any one who makes this sadboy r&b formulaic songs? No he wouldn’t. Plus I don’t care that his FF vids put him in the hospital, his music isn’t anything special and just doesn’t have the need to becreviewed by anthony, he probablyvwould have skipped all of it if it wasn’t for his previous presence on the internet. The problem is not about what he does or what he can do, he can do anything he wants, that’s not the problem, the problem is that if it was by hos music’s merits he wouldn’t be where he is now.
100% agree with you, it's nothing special.
Regi you're mad that Anthony reviews someone you don't like? Is Anthony only allowed to review artist you think are worthy?
Can we take a moment to appreciate that the title is always the first point of the video and i don't have to search around for that part.
Let's argue!!! Anthony is more of a Egg than a Melon.
No, Eggs don't wear glasses.
Egg already plays Isaac tho
an*
Eggs can’t talk dumbass
@DICKRIDIN HATER Where you been, man? I haven't seen your comments in a while
Great video but when you started awnsering the questions it really made me lose interest.
Try getting a reservation in Dorsia now
You: Let's argue
Melon: Let us argue
Me, an intellectual: Grant us this opportunity to clash rivaling opinions
Dom Demonte let us currently engage in an argumentative conflict of rivalling perspectives.
@@megavore97 May us individuals indulge in an argument to put our opposing thoughts to rest?
Let's Argue: Joji makes "sleepy music" cause he's tired of doing Filthy Frank.
And he has got seizures
Lets argue: fantano would be nothing without /mu/
*let's agree
yea, by shitting on him xd
You mean let's agree ?
kek
OMG SHE FORGOT (LET'S) I'M BLOWING UP NORTH KOREA
It´s true that Joji probably wouldn´t be nearly as big without his prior internet fame. However I think it´s important to note that there is absolutely nothing negative about this. Think of it sort of like a business man who sells his shares in one company to start up another. The only difference being that instead of it being a financial capital it is a cultural one.
The needle drop wouldn’t be nothing without hip hop.
True, he'd be something
Nice profile pic you fucking furry fuck
Reginald Dabington IV ok weirdo.
It's just cuz hip hop is the most popular and significant genre. In an alternate universe where polka music reigns, polka would pull in all his viewers.
Reginald Dabington IV it’s just a wolf, ease up some
You kinda dodge the question on that Joji one
They're friends, what do you expect?
Isnt it kind of obvious that fame carries over? I don’t think thats a hot take at all. No one can say how big or small joji would be without previous RUclips succes
It's also not exactly unfair that those who were interested in what you created in the past may still be interested in what you create in the future, even if you take it in a completely different direction. That filthy frank fanbase wasn't built in a day.
I'd appreciate it if Joji kinda blended the comedic hip hop elements of his FF releases and the ultra moody and sad music he's doing now. My fav example would be "Fried Noodles", "Rice Balls", "Weird McDonalds Rap" (Tribute to Ronald), and more recently "No Fun". I think then George would stand out so much more and have more credibility imo.
EDIT:
I want him to RAP verses and sing choruses, he can say so much more and songs will have so much more dynamic.
amen
HE NEEDS TO USE HIS DORMANT POWERS OF BARZ!!!
I completely agree, the Fried Noodles chorus hits differently after the crass (in a good way) rap lines.
Though I fear he doesn't mix the two styles now in order to distinguish himself from his Filthy Frank persona.
Politikz > Pink Guy >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joji
@@AbsurdistLemon idgi tho he could just merely incorporate elements of his Pink Guy albums to his current generic RnB tone. That wouldnt hospitalize him.
I agree, I don't think a large number of Joji's fans would spend their time trying to analyze his songs if he wasn't famous before; and they just listen and take the time to listen to his moaning lyrics because he used to be Filthy Frank.
When Critikal came on to the screen I died a little bit
Why?
Calvin_Coolage because Critikal is a gem
@@Austi3 Indeed he is.
I need more soggyslopster and Melon together I’m vids
* When Critikal came on to the screen I *came* a little bit
There is pee in your bones.
Well duh where else am I gonna store my snacks
False, but I see why you would say that.
I thought this was a music channel. Not a science channel.
Bones would be nothing without pee
How did the pee get there in the first place??
You didn't even address the question of the title of the video, your "answer" doesn't respond the question.
Probably cause they are friends. He doesn't want to burn any bridges potentially.
gulden It wasn’t a question.. and I think he responded to it pretty well without being overly insulting towards Joji
0:37 Joji would be nothing without Filthy Frank
1:02 Art criticism in and of itself is and should be considered art
1:45 Quality control is responsible for the downfall of acts like Migos and Lil Baby to an extent
2:21 The League Of Legends K-Pop song is actually very enjoyable
2:36 You Won't Get What You Want is overrated garbage
3:46 I don't understand your beef with HiatusKaiyote
5:00 Ariana Grande is making songs refrencing Mac Miller just for the money from his passing
7:00 There's no point in watching Bohemian Rhapsody with all the previous documentaries available
8:01 One's first exposure to an artist they like will typically end up being their favorite album
8:44 Simon And Garfunkel are the original Twenty One Pilots
9:05 A lot of the detractors of math rock, jazz fusion and prog hypocritcally put it off as "souless wanking"
10:26 The music from Sunday mass slaps regardless of your beliefs
10:56 Frank Ocean is just Morrissey for the Snapchat generation... in a good way
11:07 Most of the highest rated albums from you doesn't go well for casual listening
LETS ARGUE: There’s no such thing as “over produced”. Production should be an endless experiment to push music to the next level
If nothing else is being considered then yes it's very possible. Imagine Dragons. Maroon 5.
@@turboshazed7370 that isn’t their problem 😂
Overproduced is really a pseudonym for a song that is badly produced, or the production covers up the artist/musicality.
85% of Joji’s fan base is literally filthy frank... and yet he turned his back on them! Top 10 anime betrayals
I'd think it's a little smaller than that. Most of the FF fanbase agrees his.music is generic, and not what they wanted from "Joji music".
An artist isn't obligated to bend to the whims of their fanbase.
@@Guymanbot97 That's because the sample based trip hop he used to do wouldn't fly past the label, due to how expensive sample clearance can be.
People say that but almost all joji fans have no idea who filthy frank is lol. Because most filthy frank fans hate joji so they don't even listen to it.
Shawn Mitchell Every person I know who listens to Joji also used to be a Filthy Frank fan
LET'S ARGUE: Anthony Would Be Nothing Without Cal Chuchesta
That's a let's agree buddy
What video is the cr1tikal clip from?
^
Sackson TSS its from his previous stream on twitch a couple of days ago
clips.twitch.tv/SuspiciousMagnificentFoxPJSalt
Its from his streams
this clip lines up so perfectly
“ok sorry “ *wall of noise comes back in*
I feel like I've said this before, but I love how you start your videos with the topic in the title. It doesn't beat around the bush or force viewers to stick around and I respect it wholeheartedly.
*The* Daughters
This is how you tell someone doesn't know their shit.
The A Moose - who died and made you king of knowing shit?
most people here arguing that FF is the reason for Joji's fame are completely sleeping on 88rising's involvement. he seamlessly went from Frank to Joji in the public eye thanks to 88r's management only, without them he'd be still releasing soundcloud songs and FF merch.
"LET'S ARGUE: Joji Would Be Nothing Without Filthy Frank" uh dats fact me friend
I feel like Section 80 is actually better than DAMN tho...
So does melon
It is, but your average Kendrick fan doesn't even know it exists
By far
Ha this aged well with the stupid k popper trying to cancel him
I've never had full body chills until I listened to Ocean Song by Daughters.
“Frank Ocean is jus Morrisey for the snapchat generation” hey thanks cool opinion, i hate it
Let's agree: most ambitious crossover 3:39
made me moist
there are absolutely people who'll argue section.80 over everything else kendrick has done
I personally rate it higher than GKMC and DAMN. My list is TPAB > Section.80 > DAMN > GKMC
I'd say it's better than DAMN, but not GKMC or TPAB
For me personaly id put it at Section.80 , goodkid, tpab, overly dedicated, damn
GKMC is his masterpiece and I don't know if he'll ever top it, but after that, I'd rather listen to S.80 over anything else.
It was my introduction to Kendrick and I can't deny that has something to do with my love for it, but every time I hear that crackling fire I'm just IN, you know?
those people are called wrong
I understand not liking daughters new album entirely. But the hatred I’ve seen towards it is weird to me. Maybe it’s because I generally don’t hate any music quite in that way, like aggressive hatred. I just have a hard time respecting criticism when it’s so aggressive but with no appreciation for what the artist may have been trying to do or for what it genuinely does well in their eyes. Criticism as shallow as “it sucks and I hate it” and nothing more is valid, sure, but it’s also lazy and feels extremely vapid to me.
The whole “I cOuLd Do tHaT” argument for avant-garde/experimental art is bogus too. If you can do it, do it. And just because you can do it doesn’t invalidate somebody else doing it. Let’s say you can draw very well, but are you going to go up to a drawing in a museum and honestly be like “I could do that”? Like context, intent, and artistic vision is important and thinking all that matters in art is the physical ability to do it is fucking shallow and pretty stupid.
It's actually because /mu/ is so tired of that album that it just making them puke to talk about it again and again
What I find funny (as someone who loves the album) is how polarizing it is. You either love it or you hate it. Noise Rock, and the album in particular is really harsh. Harsh music isn't exactly mainstream or casually listenable.
Also, anyone who says they can replicate the musicianship of Daughters is downright naive as fuck. They can say it's random notes if they want, but anyone with ears would know that's false.
@@joshyjoshyjosh a band with guitars that sound like a horror circus is a diamond in this rhinestone wave of rock. Nothing like it will exist for a loooong time before people begin picking up on it. That's why no one can casually claim " i CaN dO tHaT"
0:45 I'm not sure about this, but Joji didn't tell too much about his 'Joji' project, people just randomly found the soundcloud and listened to it over and over again. Then he realised it was the smartest choice for him to go.
I love Filthy Frank but who actually likes Joji as an artist?
Frank was a better artist when he was using the Pink Guy motif, even if it was silly as hell it had a lot more gas in it's tank
extra funny to me given that FF calls out people saying what he was doing was less artistically valid than his Joji shit, then completely drops the FF persona for Joji
@@mikepence1933 You got it Mr.VP. I remember him defending his pink guy stuff repeatedly, only to than give up the brand he cherished.
I wouldn't be surprised if he got tired of being associated with his youtube, but to do such a sudden gear shift will leave a lot of fans not caring.
@@montengro234 I really enjoy the Joji music, and I also really enjoyed all the Pink Guy and Filthy Frank stuff, but he didn't just leave because he didn't care. By the time he left his youtube career was already unsustainable because of RUclips standards. Plus he had health issue which he had discussed on the channel at least two years before leaving, and no one cared. The channel gave him depression and he also started developing stress seizures. To say he just completely abandoned FF is unfair seeing as he did it longer than he wanted to. Even if you dislike the music you have to give him credit where credit is due for the transition.
@@serot0nergic I do respect frank as an artist but I find it hard to respect Joji with how plain and flavorless his music is. I respect your opinion too, even if I really don't get it.
I don't believe that fully to be perfectly honest. He put himself into that situation, he made prank videos and that kinda content. I get why that's stressful, but he himself chose to do that. He could have ranted about shit in his room and not been so extreme. He could have changed his content slightly.
Vidyagamesnake joji has potential and it's pretty apparent. I find his music overhated.
The thumnail looks like Frank softly caressing Melon's chin. Exactly what I had imagined in my Filthy Frank X Melon fanfic. I'm archiving this.
Damn nice Joji insight you talked like two seconds about it good job bruh
Let argue: joji would be nothing without filthy Frank
A fan Filthy Frank: *well ya*
This made me extremely happy to know there’s people like you out there. I make music, and my biggest fear is releasing something that’s “just a club banger” after watching this I wanted to go straight to the studio, but I’m on a business trip so I’m sad haha. I liked the vid Very insightful, especially the section.80 part, I loved that album but it definitely doesn’t tell as good a story as the latter two. Cheers
People who use the word poser are the best examples of a poser.
Melon would be nothing wihtout him
He've created a monster, 'cause nobody wants to see Melon no more
They want Cal, He's chopped liver
Well if you want Cal, then this is what he'll give ya
Let us not argue melon and love each other please
The new Daughters album is totally fine for casual listening. I folded laundry to that album today, I cooked, I did dishes; maybe I am confusing what the person means by "Casual listening".
tweet: things are bad
melon: some things are bad but some things are also good
Anthony would be nothing without Cal
True, his music is kinda bland
its just some generic trap beat with some sad boy moaning
*trash
@@allisonfazekas4 I agree but apparently you like death grips, the nerve to insult another artist when you like generic boring hipster noise trash is kind of jarring. 🤮
Now thats a galaxy brain if ive ever seen one
His music sounds like what cardboard paste smells like. Dull and bland
I doubt he'd have been recognised as an artist on soundcloud w/o his internet persona cause there's sooo many people out there trying to get heard. However, he is turning out to be quite successful as himself which I can't really grant to the FF franchise cause the jump from youtube to music is drastic and most people fail. I don't think the people who caused him to go #1 on hip hop billboard are the same people who watched his yt vids. so basically i think he needed it to become known in the first place but now he's made a name for himself unrelated to frank
I gotta say I actually like the Chloe Burbank experiment Joji/FF did, genuinely I liked those songs and listen to them still. But this new stuff, yeeesh, not my style tbh. Anyway me like joji I want him to be happy. Peas
Joji does generic and weak sadboy songs, no originality, no credibility, just generic songs.
i agree, idk why people overhype his music so much
@@jacky8129 You know why. 15-16 year olds that are currently the kids with enough time to keep spreading shit around as if they just found some original brand new classic to take in as life's truth and gospel. When in reality any low-effort loser can mumble a bit with a victim-complex and a lofi beat can play the game on easy mode. Brooding teenagers are a cruse.
Tom waits worst to best NOW!
Man do i love my daily Crit1kal dose
*Lets argue* : Anthony Fantano would be nothing without Cal Chuchesta
*agree
Yeah. Joji is my favorite musician, but I definitely agree his sound is way to niche to do well with out filthy frank.
3:38 loved the bonus meme with charlie
Trent Reznor predicted the future almost 25 years ago. Cause today god died.... 😔
Kanye is still alive bro wtf are you on about
So did my dog :-(
how could trent predict his own death?
anthony thinks he's an artist confirmed
Criticism will always be beneath art. While it does take some skill to be an effective and FAIR critic, it will never hold a candle to what goes into making art. To be a critic all you need these days is an opinion and the ability to write at a 6th grade level. Damn near everyone is closer to that than being an artist.
Criticism is important, but is never more important than the actual art. A lot of these critics just like to puff themselves up and act like they essential.
Interestingly enough, I think maybe this comment is sort of a criticism, as well. Does that make this comment an art? Yeah, I doubt it also.
Actually, it's a lot deeper than that. Nerd culture and internet culture in general has just shaped the critic into somebody with an opinion, not somebody who is able to dissect and analyze a piece of work.
This is true so long as you hold that art is objective.
that first question, his fanbase is entirely different, with a third probably not even knowing FF, so I'd say he would be still blowing up.
I didn’t realize you record so much footage fr these. We want the wrap tapes Anthony, like tbh I would watch an hour long version of this every week.
needle drop would be nothing without thisistheplan
Yes his following would’ve been much smaller but I still think he would’ve made it without filthy frank, ever since the first time I heard his stuff I was never in the mindset of “I have to like this because I like filthy frank” I just liked it for what it was and I think many people too
Ernesto Torres no, he's unoriginal
It's true without filthy Frank he probably would have a lot smaller following
“If an artist started with a higher following, he would have a higher following”
Every 60 seconds, a minute passes in Africa
False, if you go around and ask Joji fans if they knew who Filthy Frank was or if they knew it was Joji, a great majority of them would say no. The FF fanbase won't even touch his music simply because it's not FF, which proves that he worked his way up and became popular because his music is simply good.
@@bandolierboy1908 doubt
NotAPlayer you see all the people talking shit about his earlier releases such as in tongues? The people who disliked it were either his FF fan base acting pissed since they don’t have pApA fRaNkU anymore, or regular music listeners who gave him too much shit. He started off with a lot of people not liking his music, but now you see his face in the center of Times Square; the dude was worked form the ground up, with very little help of his FF fanbase
Oh wow I know Joji's your friend Anthony but you don't have to call him 'Zipperhead without a slanted eye" fifteen times over in three minutes just because he's half Australian!
"LET'S ARGUE: Joji Would Be Nothing Without Filthy Frank
"
How can you argue about something that's undeniable fact?
There's a lot of different arguments against it, actually