IBANEZ MULTISCALE BTB BASSES - BTB605MS & BTB805MS
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Our review of the Ibanez BTB605MS & BTB805MS basses.
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0:00 Intro
0:49 35"-37" Scale
1:06 BTB605MS
2:07 New T1 Pickups
2:40 BTB805MS
3:22 4.7kg / 4.5kg
3:31 Reverb Sound
4:03 Conclusion 
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Gregor saying "panga panga" is always the highlight of my day 🤣
Ah now I see what you mean, and indeed you are correct
I thought i was the only one 😂
Wait till you see Henning saying it. :D
1:06 - The Walk - What did you say?
What a player!
Whether they're good pickups or not, some will probably stay away because they can't change them in the future if they desire something different. Fender did this with their last Dimension and I think that bass would still be around today if they used a standard soapbar size pickup instead a proprietary shape.
Yeah, Ibanez is a nice mod platform
I got Nordstrands in my BTB 20th anniversary . They're awesome . I imagine Ibanez pickups are better than the Bartolinis , I know people will like them but for me I couldn't stand them and that's the main reason I haven't picked up a EHB .
The 6th string updated BTB would have been a purchase if I didn't order a Dingwall 6 already . If I was rich , I'd get the BTB though . They're incredible basses , I'm loving mine and it's " old " now
Well but you can still change the preamp after all
Pfft. People that mod basses are capable of using a router.
well, you can still change pickups. just grab yourself a guitar maker and let him ream the cuts for other pickups. it's surpisingly not that expensive. Cost me 100e to get larger cuts to use EMG pickups on my old Soundgear 6 string bass. I hated the bartolinis and still hate them on my current ehb -.-
The multiscale BTB is one of my most anticipated bass releases in quite some time. Such a good looking bass in my opinion. G.A.S is hitting me hard.
Me to, even though unfortunately I get vert little time these days to even play the bass guitars I have. But that btb looks and sounds amazing
Me too, pretty hard. In the face.
@Thomas Kievitdamn!
@Thomas Kievit wow
@Thomas Kievit Enough time to earn the money 😃
As someone that has openly shared my disgust of the BTB style, I have to say that Ibanez has really knocked these out of the park and I cannot WAIT to try one!
we've filmed the studio tour yesterday 😬😅
I have had several Ibanez basses over the years, from SG to a special Koa Wood one I bought on Maui. They are my favorite. Granted, there are far more brands and styles that I have not played than I have, but the Ibanez basses have never disappointed. These new ones you are featuring here look very cool indeed (IMO not in terms of style…don’t like big body wings… but cool in terms of awesomeness), crazy versatile and with the wonderful Ibanez ‘feel’. Thanks for the video! I will check these out.
I bought it a month ago and i can't stop playing it. It's a masterpiece!
That looks amazing. I am a fan of BTBs and these look amazing.
Never expected to hear Pantera, pleasant surprise
sweet! I've got an old BTB400 that sounds lovely to my ears! Great to see the upgrade!!
Great tone on these guys!
Great video. Thanks. Really cool basses too and the bass player really has an unusual playing style.
I’m definitely looking into getting the BTB805MS this year.
WALK!!! ❤️ Mannomann, bin ja schon von Beginn an ein Fan der BTB Reihe (..meine Lieblinge waren bisher die Dx705, 1305 und die alten 700er OL Modelle) - aber dieses Modell setzt - für mich - vom Design und vom Sound allen vorherigen Bässen die Krone auf 👌
Ich kann es kaum erwarten den türkisen Bass in der Hand zu halten, KNALLER!!
Love the look, need to try one ❤️
Great review, thank you 😊
Huge fan of the look and sound. It's great.
Putting one on order today, I freakin love life!!
Great Review, thank!
I would love to see a review of that vintage fender amp.. I see in the background. that's cool
yep i want BTB805 sounds killer
The in body recessed bridge is genius
Great review. Your video editor rocks 🤘🏼
Thanks 🙂
My first bass was an ibanez sr300eb absolutely loved it but unfortunately it broke i bought a squire jazz to replace it and since then ive been through about 10 different basses most expensive being about 400 and none of them compared to my first bass. I recently went to andertons and played the btb805ms along with a dingwall and spector and instantly fell in love with the btb the others didnt even come close. Im saving up all my money and selling all my basses and im not even picking another bass up until I get it because it feels like im playing a shovel with barbed wire attatched from end to end. This is honestly the best bass I have ever played (even over a fender professional series bass) and is also one of the most beautiful. 100/10 ibanez great job on this one!!
I would have liked to have heard more about the B string. The only reason to buy a fan fret, is better tension, and a lower action on the B and the E. So, I wish you had dealt with this a little more.
I have a BTB 5 string, and the B lets it down, even using a 130.
I suppose I'll have to go to PMT a check one out for myself. When they're in stock!
I'm surprised how well BTB body shape fits multiscale design
Ibanez is innovating beautifully! And still at an affordable price! Ibanez ❤️
Só máquina !!! 🙏👏👏
waiting for this
Can confirm you said cerulean right! :) Really enjoyed this video as I've had my eye on this thing for a while now! As someone who realllllyyyy wants a Dingwall NG, but is also a broke college kid and definitely not afford it, this thing looks and sounds great!!
My only question is, are these things actually out/have been released?? Because I can find the listings for them online at the usual sellers like GuitarCenter, Sweetwater, etc etc., but they're always only for preorder and never actually In-Stock. I'd love to get my hands on one before I have to go back to school in the fall.
Love ibanez basses only for btb line and ehb now btb's even more great for me)) awesome!)
Will consider as Dingwall can't deliver the drocs.. thanks for the review.
had the occasion to A-B the 605ms vs the 805ms at a long & McQuade, The 805ms is indeed quite the looker but it had a tamer and overall darker sound than its 605ms sibling. (setup and controls were the same) also it weighted quite a bit more wich led me to the 605ms. I think it might have been the woods on those 2 basses and it might not be the same with all. Regardless, Both basses are a great new addition to the BTB Family. Nice video, keep up the good work.
I’m considering picking one of these up, but I know they’re incredibly similar. Was there any noticeable differences/advantages between them? Mostly playing metal/punk.
would love to hear this through a B7K please! how well does it compare to a dingwall ng2/3?
Does anyone know about what replacement strings can be used for this bass? Ibanez website says the BTB806MS comes equipped with D'Addario NYXL30130 37" but I can't find them anywhere on the market. Would Dingwall 6-string-sets fit? Are there other options?
The pickups were my only concern with these but sounds like that's not an issue. I would love one of these for F# tuning.
Yes, me too! Now i won't have to get a Dingwall which would've set me back 800€ more. The 605 also has a way cooler color, if i may say
At last someone has given the weight. Was waiting for the 605 to be released but won't bother now. Far too heavy for my knackered back.
The blue one is nuts wow I love that. Really don't love the 35 inch on the g string though.
Why? 35" is the BTB standard scale. If the G was any shorter, the fan frets would be too difficult to navigate.
The G on my BTB sounds great , 35" too .
I got to play the 805 today and it had a beautiful g string. Perfect ring out and not too much tension
Nice demo but I sure would love to see some serious slap playing on it. The slanted space between the pickup and neck looks a little tight for the way I pop.
Would you say you can achieve comparable tone to the Dingwall NG3 with this? The Dingwall is my dream bass, especially with that Dark Glass preamp, but man.... this is a pretty sexy bass.
4.7 is nice weight not bad at all, the second looks beautiful man
I think the idea of a 37 inch scale bass is the extra tension in the lower strings... and yet, they were almost completely forgotten in this review.
VERY NICE
Woww awesome bass
Woooww.. 👀👀👀👏.. 💓.. Ibanez
For the love of god PLEASE use the low B more in these reviews
For those wondering about the scale of the strings, the low B string has a length of 37 inches, and the G string is 35 inches.
They look pretty sweet, but I've got to wonder how neck heavy they are with those extra long necks and an upper horn that doesn't make it to fret 12.
Your channel i love your accent too 🖤
Does anyone knows what are dimensions for T1 pickups? I would like o replace them with Nordstrand or Aguilar pickups. Can someone adivse?
How do they compare to the Dingwall NG? I have a Dingwall currently but have always been a BtB guy. I’m stuck
Finde gut, dass Ibanez jetzt auch "Dingwall-Scale" Bässe macht 🤷♂ (ist vielleicht eine etwas günstigere Alternative - besonders wenn man den "Darkglass-Preamp" schon in Form von Amp-Equilizer/Pedal daheim hat). Wird Zeit, dass sich da eine "Meta-Scale" etabliert in Sachen Multiscale, wie es auch standardmäßig (34") bei den regulären Bässen ist. Hoffe nur, dass die BTBs nicht dieses Ibanez SR typische Fretbuzzing ab Werk haben 😅.
Uuuuund - sie haben einen "Sandberg/Human Base - Zerofret" - das ist schon sehr nice 🤷♂
I wish they had more than two color options
Dear Ibanez could you please remove the peace of fretboard wood just behind the nut. It looks not really good and incomplete
This. I guess a GruvGear will hide it anyway, but still, why not at least paint it on the blue bass?
Yeah it looks dodgy.
This! They didn’t have it on their pilot multiscale SoundGear SRFF4505.
I have the SRMS806 which has that same annoying triangle there. I’m guessing it’s just easier from a production stand point and would actually cost more if they shaved off the fret board and added proper headstock finishing. But still… it’s weird!!
@@diyguy9617 I have SRMS805 (which i have modded the hell out). I wish they have just made it a 35.5" neck across all the strings.
Very nice 👌
Finally!
Had it for about year love it no complaints
Can one of the pickups be lowered or something? I read about these on the Ibanez website and they made it sound like you can lower one of the pickups and get a true single coil sound with no hum.
Hey, the beauty truly is. Bests, m.m.
Gregor! What do you prefer about the Cerulean one for recording?
the results. but I'm talking about these 2 specific basses. in the next couple it might be the other way around. These are tiny details, which can be affected by a slight difference in string height, etc.
PANGA PANGA!!!!
I have two other non multi scale BTBs, and the one thing I don’t like about them has always been the pickups. And the weight, they are beefy 😅
The beefiest basses make you feel the most powerful when you wear them low ☺️
Wonder how this compares to the Spector ns dimension ?
I wonder why the 605 is the one for recording over the 805 ?
Is it better than the EHB1265ms?
🔥
Do Ibanez do E to C tuned 5 strings?..I'd prefer an extra thin C string than a B string for ambient bass ..
You can do that with every 5 string, regardless what strings it was first delivered with
Does anybody know the individual scale of each string?
I really dig that BT805. However I feel like the cutaway imposes a "metal" aura upon the player. And while I love metal, I don't play it. Hoping they have a body variation in the near future
It’s probably going to weigh like a small boat anchor. My Dingwall barely passes the 3.5-kg mark. I’m still eager to try one though. If only Ibanez releases these soon enough… That B string doesn’t sound super convincing though.
Yeah my 6 string is just a bit more at 4kg. The B string should sound better than that.
Sounds good though, looks very nice - end of the fingerboard - fret zero , still looks dodgy - just do it like Dingwall ffs
@@craigmoran893 What's the issue with a zero fret?
Many great bass builders use that method and have incredible basses.
@@martyrofgrenth2136 Sorry i meant how they have (haven't) cut the fingerboard, at where zero would be. (the nut)
A shortcut to save money.
I am trying to decide between a Btb, a Dingwall, and a Keisel. I know you have reviewed this one and the Kiesel. If you were me dropping over 2 grand, which one would you choose? I've also considered the Spector multiscale. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated! Great job on the reviews btw!
Haven't looked at Kiesel in a long time, but personally, if you have the money I'd probably go with a Dingwall over the Ibanez? Granted I'm a bit biased cause a Dingwall is (at least one of lol) my dream bass, but as far as I know, when it comes to multiscale basses, Dingwall is where it's at.
Additionally, as the comment below you (for me at least lol) mentioned, they don't seem to be in stock at the moment? There are listings for them, but they all seem to be preorder listings. It's kinda confusing as they're supposed to be Ibanez's 2022 line, but we're halfway through 2022 and so far, nothing?? I hope they'll be in stock soon!
@@matthewszklany101 Thank you for replying! I really like the sound of the Dingwall (at least listening to them on youtube), and Lee Sklar is amazing on them, but I really prefer stainless frets. Also, I've never played a multiscale, and there isn't a music store around me that carries them, so I a bit nervous about buying one blind. I've been playing a 5 string forever so it probably won't be an issue. Do you wonder about them being built in China (the quality I mean)?
After trying both the 805 and a dingwall combustion today, I heavily recommend you try them both first before making a purchase. The dingwall has a wider neck and feels a bit hard to navigate, for me at least.
@@anotakudetective1546 Thanks for the reply! Which one sounded better to you? Did you notice a difference in quality?
@@treed873 The knobs are one lol. The btb had some tighter knobs so you need two fingers to turn them easily. The dingwall had different knobs that were smoother but also clicks due to what in guessing was the pickup selector. I prefer the sound of the btb but many like the combustion.
How heavy was the EHB1265MS? These sound wonderful, btw.
I have the EHB1506MS and it's less than 8lbs. They are super lightweight.
@@facemash The 1265 has heavier wood though so I wanted to know specifically.
35" to 37" scale can afford Hipshot D-tuner, actually Lo-A tuner, on B-string...
That'll be amazing！
I once was in hannover and there was a music store there and they had the blue btb and i tried it and i didnt like it because the neck was thicc af the jack was shit because it was a nightmare to get the cable out of it so i wanna say that if you are into solos the blue btb isnt the right thing
ok, I am a metal musicians ... very aggressive and low tuned 8 string guitars guy - which should I get BTB605MS & BTB805MS? Big difference in sound?
No, very close actually. Pick the one that looks better to you
your 605MS is nearly a full pound lighter than mine. Mine weighed in at 10.6lbs
No one can stop Ibanez!!!...especially with Stranberg basses out of stock for a year
Glad to see Ibanez joining the 37" B-string club, and also a bit excited about their G-string creeping up from 34 to 35". Makes one wonder if we, in a couple of years, will have come full circle on this multi-scale business and just settled on 37" across the board as the new standard. ☺
Lord I hope not. I only just tolerate 35” on the G string. Multiscale is one thing, but personally I’d hate to play a straight 37”
A Dingwall 6 string is 37 to 32.25. So you have to stretch a little more than a 35 to play some low notes. But as you move across the strings, the frets get closer together and this makes playing fast, easier! The G is normal but the C benefits from being shorter.
That would be a terrible idea. Tension would be way, way too tight on the high strings if you did that.
Would’ve hopped to see the 6 string version
I try to avoid getting 6-string basses for demos. Keep in mind the players have no chance to prepare these sessions. Everything's improvised and a 6-string is an unnecessary complication in such a scenario. Of course we're demoing 6-string basses if a brands asks, but we avoid it when we can
I'm not a huge fan of the Ibanez 3 band eq. Now maybe a rotary switch to play the coils individually with the option of series and parallel, and a darkglass tone capsule
I don't like any of their pickups or electronics.They sound Hifi and plasticy.
They would probably just make a shitter, cheaper version of the Darkglass and disappoint like they have with, their own pickups, Bartolini and Nordstrand.
@@craigmoran893 ok I can see your point there, but having the 605e, I can assure you the Ibby Nord's sound very nice, full and crisp. Nothing like the bh2 or MK1.
panga panga👏
Das T-Shirt ist mal 'ne Ansage! xD
I would go for this BTB if the body ergonomics were better. This sharp edge is killing me...
I got used to it pretty quickly but yes it is sharp.
I want that bass soooooooooooooo bad!!!!!! I'm thinking about the 806ms
I have a four string j bass, five string BTB 745..... So the six string model seems like the best step in my next bass ho stable
Ok, when do they make passive ones? Or 18v ones? I can't stand the low headroom of classic active basses.
Better yet would be phantom powered 48v
They have active and passive capabilities. You can switch the preamp off.
@@pat8437 pickups designed for active basses have less winding. That means less impedance/inductance, less volume, a higher cutoff frequency and a lower Q
@@bacicinvatteneaca I don’t know too much about pickups, but I imagine that it comes down to whether or not the pickups themselves are active or passive, right? Because you can put, for example, passive Seymour Duncans in an active bass. You still then, I imagine, have the high output of the pickup with obvious shaping due to the pre amp. So unless they’ve specifically designed these passive (and they are passive according to the Ibanez website) humbuckers to have a lower output, I imagine they’d have solid passive output? But I can’t say for certain, I know very little, I’m engaging in pure abstraction here.
@@pat8437 nope, active pickups have even less winding, by a long shot.
@@bacicinvatteneaca I fail to understand how this relates? I never said anything to the contrary. All I said was these Ibanez pickups are passive, and that passive pickups work with active basses irregardless of whether or not they’re “designed for it”, so I can’t see how you can tell if these pickups have less winding, imprudence, volume etc SHEERLY because they’re in an active/passive bass.
Is this available in a 4 string by chance?
Nope
Do they make this in a 4 string?
Nope
I wish you had the dude with the beard demoing the bass. I don't think the guy that you used did this bass justice. I'm not saying he's a bad bass player I'm just saying I don't think he was right for this demo. I'd also like to hear this bass through different overdrive or distortion than you used.
Cool looking basses but that B still sounds dirty, buzzy and lascking clarity.
Surely having some noise cancelling jazz pickups would also reduce the weight of having 4x single coils?
Don't ibanez make their own in house Nordstands too?
I like it, it looks cool and visually I'm a fan but I just feel a few minor modifications from design to construction could actually make it sound and feel better as well as making it more versatile for more bassists.
Still prefer a Dingwall if I was to go fanned frets.
This is strange but they sound sort of strangled to me. Like strings are too tight. It isn't a bad sound just odd.
Such a long scale length will do that for you. Really strangles the fundamental of the overtone series, ya know..the part of a bass you actually want to hear.
@@liamtahaney713 That makes no sense. Shorter scale length makes everything muddier. Longer adds clarity.
It's probably setup with the same strings they would put on a standard scale bass, so yeah the strings will be a bit tighter feeling. You can easily go lighter gauge with a 37" scale and get a normal feel and clearer tone.
@@facemash Shorter scale length removes overtones. The fundamental is what sounds "muddy" because there's just the low tone without much else of interest going on that would colour it. Same effect as if you pluck a string at its midway point-more fundamental because of where the waves are propagating, less harmonics. The actual factor here is string tension. Less freedom to wiggle means less flub, but I guess the effects on the string might not sonically be to everyone's taste.
I'm wating 806ms... I want to meet that Quickly
Price of these are going up now that this video has been made lol
Liked at 1:30 hahahahaha
Bro, that's a harp with frets
it looks like my Dingwall´s
What inches means, wants the world to know?
The world usually googles things it doesn’t understand
another instrument I can't buy and has no release date? cool, placing my order now
@@ab-ix7gn I have no idea what you googled but it wasn't the Ibanez BTB806MS or BTB805MS, and it was more like 5 minutes to verify I am correct.
Panga panga 🤘
Love the “assumed pronunciation”, a true LOL moment.