This isn't a video of wrong notes. This is a video of personality and pure music. Stop judging and comparing badly the great ones . Just feel the differences and enjoy...
D'accord. I hear a few obvious wrong notes, missed notes, & hitting between the keys, but a poor soundtrack causes distortion which can be mis-heard as wrong notes, and it's difficult to sort out which is which when something sounds off. Ergo, I give Neuhaus a pass, given all the enjoyment I received from watching him play. And that's the object behind performance art, is it not?
Some of those missed notes especially during the 2nd time of that romantic melodic part were crucial notes that should not have been missed... It's hard to enjoy when he misses some of the notes to the point where the harmony totally changes. like a chord was supposed to sound like a minor chord then he missed the third to a major chord. People who bring up the issue with him missing notes actaully have a point. If it's someone like Neuhaus or Horowitz I would expect much better than that...
The same people who criticise Golden Age 20th century pianists for wrong notes would no doubt have criticised the great Anton Rubinstein. No doubt they also believe that a photograph is better than a Michelangelo fresco because it is more realistic.
Thank you so much for posting this precious film. He is a father of Stanislav Bunin, a sensational pianist who won the Chopin competition in 1985. Would be wonderful if more of Neuhaus' film is posted.
I can say that I like both interpretations, and for different reasons. I like this one for the clarity of the lower notes, and the changes in speed during some parts. I like Horowitz's interpretation for the unflinching perfection, and the clearer melody line.
I'll WAY take this kind of BEAUTIFUL... EXPRESSIVE... CONNECTED Playing over all of the robots of today... No matter what less kind comments others would say... I believe Scriabin would have LOVED this performance...
I completely agree with you, crystal130h. Especially in the second go around of the main melody in the soprano register, the part where the melody is actually syncopated. There are two lines to be sung, but he only brings out the top one.
Is any piece of the piano repertoire played more for an encore than this one? God's angels were really whispering into Scriabin's ears when he was composing this gem! If the great Russian master had written just this one work, his existence on this planet would have been justified 10,000 times over!
Улица Комиссаржевской . Каштановый град и громадины окон, и сумрак от веток, в побелке стволы, над тропкой отпавший, кружащийся локон, как будто бы помнит дворянства балы, зелёные кущи и красные стены, сухая брусчатка, квадраты земли, вся улица, будто модельная сцена и пир фотографий до полной луны, и жёлто-салатные коврики-листья порой устилают недлинный проспект, виднеются редко кленовые кисти, и тем дополняют оттенками цвет, влюблённые пары и тихие встречи, как будто бы райский проход, уголок, и трогают снова прохожих за плечи ладони, покинувши крон потолок, молочные лица, листы штукатурки, и серые фоны меж лаковых рам, и тут не бывает толпы и окурков, деревья, как своды, скрепившие храм, в жару и осенне таится прохлада, асфальтовой почвы широкая гладь... И этому острову сердце так радо, когда перед взором мифический сад!
Competitions today produce amazingly passionate AND intellectual interpreters such as: Alessio Bax Daniil Trifonov Haochen Zhang Denis Kozhukhin just to name a few that performed at WWU this year...I don't buy the argument at all that people have lost character, but the inundation of pitch-perfect recordings today might make it seem that way
Heinrich Neuhaus (teachers included Godowsky; uncle was Felix Blumenfeld; cousin was Szymanowski) was father of Stanslav Neuhaus. Stanislav Neuhaus is father of Stanislav Bunin. I don't know why his name is "Bunin" instead of "Neuhaus", but one can imagine how difficult it would be to build a career with the same name as your [semi?] well-known father... I thought this Scriabin performance was quite good. Some of the criticism here may simply be due to the atrocious audio quality.
I feel the same way about Peter Serkin, who obviously has a very different personality and temperament to Rudolf but seem to feel the burden of trying to live up to the name Serkin. I thought Stanislav did quite well in this regard, perhaps better than Peter!
I totally agree! Being a pianist, I understand your point;) I don't care that much about the wrong notes and unclarity of his interpretation, but I still don't like the way he plays it. I'm learning it now...very hard to keep the fifth finger standing out and keep clarity because of the low end "blurriness" in the left hand.
I agree. Of course, the political situation during Heinrich's and Stanislav's time was not very amenable to creating an international career, while both of them were very active in the Soviet sphere. Bunin's popularity in Japan at least is quite high, but there are so many great pianists coming out of Russia etc. that it is difficult to really distinguish oneself among the shrinking classical fan base, I am afraid...
OMG - this is bad news for me - Neuhaus is one of the best of the century and even he cannot do it flawlesly. I will have to play this beast in a competition soon.... This is indeed the best interpetation ever but even he does not own it 100%!!!
People - please - What is this: 'Piano Playing VH1' or 'Glamour'? This is a beautiful interpretation! - that is the important thing. Do not turn this into cheesy hollywood!
Oh I was shocked to learn that Bunin is son of Stanislav Neuhaus! He actually looks like him a bit! Wow what an incredible blood line! But it's odd how non of them really really boomed as a concertist, despite the incredible talent (especially of Heinrich)
This is my favorite among scriabin. My favorite performances are Richter & Horowitz (From the albums RIchter plays Scriabin & Horowitz plays Scriabin)...
oh yeah i think i remember in richters book he said that gilels later in life denied neuhaus taught him, he wanted people to think he was self taught if i remember correctly but i read it long ago so im not sure if my memory is correct i seem to also remember neuhaus helped change richters sound
I just tried to post this, hope it doesn't come through twice. I assume that Stanislav Neuhaus is the son of Heinrich Neuhaus. But someone has suggested that Stanislav Neuhaus is the father of Stanislav Bunin, but if this is true why isn't Bunin's name Neuhaus?
i agree wit mursum151 there is def sum musical qualities that can b enjoyed in this performance. It is also very childish to compare every performance to horowitz... there is other performers with valid interpretations enjoy the music for wat it is.
I agree. A poor soundtrack can create what one hears to be wrong notes, when it is actually distortion. I think the pianist did well enough, probably much better than any critics of this video. The pianist has a lot of sheer presence and animal magnetism going for him, like Jorge Bolet and other virtuosi who really looked the part. The old archival black and white film enhances the charm. And the artist had a head of hair to die for!
Ye s Inde ed today's pia nists fo r su re have the traits to perform at high le ve l bu t mas ter s ar e a dif fer ent mat ter and yadi ya pedan tic bab ble
so-called what? Scriabin himself and Rachmaninoff were trained at the Moscow conservatorym cradle of the Russian school and they were followed by Heinrich Neuhaus (father of this performer on YT who is really average) Richter, gilels,Sofronitzky etc etc etc and last but not least Kissin.. Who of them play cautiosl and bland performances? Oh, maybe Horowitz?;-)
I speak only for barbarians like myself: This is a good effort but pales next to Horowitz. Such pieces require taking risks and pushing the envelope way beyond mere sanity and into schizophrenia
mursum151: "the terrible performance" definition as said from trevjr is acceptable,not only if you compare it to Horowitz but above all if you think that Neuhaus's pupil were Richter & Gilels. Yes, it's a terrible performance. "It is already a great accomplish to be able to play this piece": WHAT? Are you know that Neuhaus was a concert player, a very famous piano teacher in the Moscow Conservatory and not an ordinary amateur pianist?!?
My heart goes out to Mr. Neuhaus here. He seems so utterly uncomfortable... perhaps it is the inhuman and unforgiving camera. Clearly he is rushing phrases and on the defensive. Equally clearly, he is capable of much better in this piece. One wonders if there is another performance on record...
Terrible??...not at all.I find an adequate flowing in sentiments and a strong waving sound.If this all about musical expression,then,playing clearly has to be put aside...at least for now..
Thanks for posting this video, as my mother was studying both with him and his father, Heinrich Neuhaus in Moscow, from 1961-1964
Wow !!
Lucky!
anything about your mother's study with them would be interresting reading.
Amazing
The hair alone is worth the price of admission.
This isn't a video of wrong notes. This is a video of personality and pure music.
Stop judging and comparing badly the great ones . Just feel the differences and enjoy...
D'accord. I hear
a few obvious
wrong notes, missed notes, & hitting between
the keys, but a
poor soundtrack causes distortion which can be
mis-heard as
wrong notes, and it's difficult
to sort out which is which
when something sounds off. Ergo, I give Neuhaus a pass, given all
the enjoyment
I received from
watching him
play. And that's
the object behind performance art, is it not?
Some of those missed notes especially during the 2nd time of that romantic melodic part were crucial notes that should not have been missed... It's hard to enjoy when he misses some of the notes to the point where the harmony totally changes. like a chord was supposed to sound like a minor chord then he missed the third to a major chord. People who bring up the issue with him missing notes actaully have a point. If it's someone like Neuhaus or Horowitz I would expect much better than that...
The same people who criticise Golden Age 20th century pianists for wrong notes would no doubt have criticised the great Anton Rubinstein. No doubt they also believe that a photograph is better than a Michelangelo fresco because it is more realistic.
I learned one thing after all these years: People who criticize on the Internet have no talent. :)
@@listenmatelisten That's actually very true...
Thank you so much for posting this precious film. He is a father of Stanislav Bunin, a sensational pianist who won the Chopin competition in 1985.
Would be wonderful if more of Neuhaus' film is posted.
Excellent performance! How amazing and brilliant!!
he's got lovely hair
@@scriabin2079 nah stop........
Good unity. The tempo, no exaggerations when you have to go down or up, also in dynamics. Very good
I can say that I like both interpretations, and for different reasons. I like this one for the clarity of the lower notes, and the changes in speed during some parts. I like Horowitz's interpretation for the unflinching perfection, and the clearer melody line.
I'll WAY take this kind of BEAUTIFUL... EXPRESSIVE... CONNECTED Playing over all of the robots of today... No matter what less kind comments others would say... I believe Scriabin would have LOVED this performance...
Génial, j'adore son interprétation.
I completely agree with you, crystal130h. Especially in the second go around of the main melody in the soprano register, the part where the melody is actually syncopated. There are two lines to be sung, but he only brings out the top one.
excellent....what a great musician and pianist
I regret it I didn't find this video earlier, it immediately become my second favourite interpretation of this piece after Horowitz
Stanislav and Scriabin are God's excuse for making us self aware.
A divine performance! Thank you for posting this!
Such raffinement, elegance...
beautiful performance !
scriabin will be always my favourite composer...
A real gem this performance is!
Is any piece of the piano repertoire played more for
an encore than
this one? God's angels were really whispering into
Scriabin's ears
when he was composing this
gem! If the great Russian
master had written just this
one work, his existence on this planet would have been justified
10,000 times
over!
not at all similar. They are in the same key though. Scriabin's is much more euphoric and tragic. Chopin's is very innocent sounding.
Улица Комиссаржевской
.
Каштановый град и громадины окон,
и сумрак от веток, в побелке стволы,
над тропкой отпавший, кружащийся локон,
как будто бы помнит дворянства балы,
зелёные кущи и красные стены,
сухая брусчатка, квадраты земли,
вся улица, будто модельная сцена
и пир фотографий до полной луны,
и жёлто-салатные коврики-листья
порой устилают недлинный проспект,
виднеются редко кленовые кисти,
и тем дополняют оттенками цвет,
влюблённые пары и тихие встречи,
как будто бы райский проход, уголок,
и трогают снова прохожих за плечи
ладони, покинувши крон потолок,
молочные лица, листы штукатурки,
и серые фоны меж лаковых рам,
и тут не бывает толпы и окурков,
деревья, как своды, скрепившие храм,
в жару и осенне таится прохлада,
асфальтовой почвы широкая гладь...
И этому острову сердце так радо,
когда перед взором мифический сад!
Phenomenal performance.
Thanks for sharing this!
Любимый. Композитор,Прекрасный Музыкант!
awesome!!!,he play it perfectly!
Competitions today produce amazingly passionate AND intellectual interpreters such as:
Alessio Bax
Daniil Trifonov
Haochen Zhang
Denis Kozhukhin
just to name a few that performed at WWU this year...I don't buy the argument at all that people have lost character, but the inundation of pitch-perfect recordings today might make it seem that way
Beautiful!
Is he a relative of lugansky? Compare his face and gesture at 2:05 with Luganskys Rach performance (23 5 and 16 4).... :)
Heinrich Neuhaus (teachers included Godowsky; uncle was Felix Blumenfeld; cousin was Szymanowski) was father of Stanslav Neuhaus. Stanislav Neuhaus is father of Stanislav Bunin. I don't know why his name is "Bunin" instead of "Neuhaus", but one can imagine how difficult it would be to build a career with the same name as your [semi?] well-known father...
I thought this Scriabin performance was quite good. Some of the criticism here may simply be due to the atrocious audio quality.
I feel the same way about Peter Serkin, who obviously has a very different personality and temperament to Rudolf but seem to feel the burden of trying to live up to the name Serkin. I thought Stanislav did quite well in this regard, perhaps better than Peter!
I wish I saw Heirinch playing this...
*Heinrich
WoW….Beautiful……!!!!!!!!
What imbecile could not like this??? It's absolutely beautiful. Everything Neihaus ever played was ... he was GOD.
I totally agree! Being a pianist, I understand
your point;) I don't care that much about the wrong notes and unclarity of his interpretation, but I still don't like the way he plays it. I'm learning it now...very hard to keep the fifth finger standing out and keep clarity because of the low end
"blurriness" in the left hand.
When wrong notes do not matter and the music is just so good
well i love this interpretation.
Does anybody have a video of Heinrich Neuhaus? Would be great to see and listen to the master of masters...
I agree. Of course, the political situation during Heinrich's and Stanislav's time was not very amenable to creating an international career, while both of them were very active in the Soviet sphere. Bunin's popularity in Japan at least is quite high, but there are so many great pianists coming out of Russia etc. that it is difficult to really distinguish oneself among the shrinking classical fan base, I am afraid...
OMG - this is bad news for me - Neuhaus is one of the best of the century and even he cannot do it flawlesly. I will have to play this beast in a competition soon.... This is indeed the best interpetation ever but even he does not own it 100%!!!
What? This piece is quite comfortable to play actually.
До сих пор лучше ещё никто не сыграл
What a fragile, truly Russian performance! Subtle taste and the highest nobility.
perfect... he is God.... Потрясающе! нет слов
People - please - What is this: 'Piano Playing VH1' or 'Glamour'?
This is a beautiful interpretation! - that is the important thing.
Do not turn this into cheesy hollywood!
Oh I was shocked to learn that Bunin is son of Stanislav Neuhaus! He actually looks like him a bit! Wow what an incredible blood line! But it's odd how non of them really really boomed as a concertist, despite the incredible talent (especially of Heinrich)
Uploaded 16 years ago? Damn
I completely agree. It is very sad...
The earlier Moscow live recording is even better IMO.
i know his grandson!
he's outstanding as well, with genes like that you can't go to far astray.
i"ll a video of the guy.
Wait, his son is Stanislav Bunin, so you know Bunin's son??
@truthkills you're spot on -
This is my favorite among scriabin. My favorite performances are Richter & Horowitz (From the albums RIchter plays Scriabin & Horowitz plays Scriabin)...
My god, gorgeous hair!
oh yeah i think i remember in richters book he said that gilels later in life denied neuhaus taught him, he wanted people to think he was self taught if i remember correctly but i read it long ago so im not sure if my memory is correct
i seem to also remember neuhaus helped change richters sound
scottbos68 That was Heinrich Neuhaus...😊
check out the Horowitz interpretation if you like this. The coloring is unreal with Horowitz, and the texture absolutely perfect
oh and nice performance :)
I just tried to post this, hope it doesn't come through twice. I assume that Stanislav Neuhaus is the son of Heinrich Neuhaus. But someone has suggested that Stanislav Neuhaus is the father of Stanislav Bunin, but if this is true why isn't Bunin's name Neuhaus?
V.Horowitz has a splendid live recording of this piece along with another from opus 8, number 11, I think. (Bb minor?)
this video is oldern then most of YT's viewers
specially at the end
I wish my hair would do that when I play the piano :(
you guys should check out Michael Pinnella's (of Symphony X) cover of this same song. He adds some strings in it and it sounds incredible!
Sorry but his "work" is completely mechanical and a complete non-sense, complete lack of musicality
The father of Stanislav Bunin,pianist
the son of Henrych Neuhaus
Heinrich Neuhaus is the great piano master and teacher as well,he was like a walking piano academy.
D'accord!
WOW! that was nice! :D 5/5
Buenísima interpretación.😂
i agree wit mursum151 there is def sum musical qualities that can b enjoyed in this performance. It is also very childish to compare every performance to horowitz... there is other performers with valid interpretations enjoy the music for wat it is.
1966 ??
they hadn't inventend TV recording by that time!!
LEONID KUZMIN is the 1 who truly owned it imo.
you can still see the difficulty, but if you try hard enough you can accomplish whatever you want.
Bunin's dad!
You're right, probably piano competitions led to this..
to my ears, the rubato here gives it that weird feeling of an out-of-control waltz...like ravel or something...it does look easy for him
Ravel wrote waltzes, or ANY
THING, that sounded as if it
was out of control? Give me a break!
sorry double post haha
👍
didnt neuhaus teach richter and gilels?
He has hair that would scare Conan O'brien away.
Handsome!
1966? The year Stanislav Bunin was born? Isn't Neuhaus Bunin's dad?
And likewise, I prefer Horowitz's and Richter's to this, but I am below this.
Thanks! Great.
Bravissimo , ma che bei capelli anche 👋😜
Evgeny Kissin rules this song
The best interpretation is the one of Roberto Scherson, no doubt !
Very nice to hear the "pianistenmacher" himself...
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I think the matter lies on the soundtrack.
I agree. A poor
soundtrack can
create what one
hears to be wrong notes, when it is actually distortion. I think the pianist did well enough, probably much
better than any
critics of this video. The pianist has a lot
of sheer presence and
animal magnetism going for him,
like Jorge Bolet
and other virtuosi who really looked the part. The old archival black and white
film enhances
the charm. And
the artist had a
head of hair to
die for!
Ye
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pia
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fo
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the
traits to
perform
at high
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lol, well I like the cover better, but this one is great too
should music be competitive?
well it sounds great to me! It's not this song wasn't played by someone else.
Richter does the strongest version, on the Warsaw concert recording.
El tempo creo que no es el adecuado
This guy's mannerism reminds me of Liberace.
leonid kuzmin
so-called what? Scriabin himself and Rachmaninoff were trained at the Moscow conservatorym cradle of the Russian school and they were followed by Heinrich Neuhaus (father of this performer on YT who is really average) Richter, gilels,Sofronitzky etc etc etc and last but not least Kissin.. Who of them play cautiosl and bland performances? Oh, maybe Horowitz?;-)
umm but this IS the son. Unless junior had a son himself I don't know about..
I speak only for barbarians like myself: This is a good effort but pales next to Horowitz. Such pieces require taking risks and pushing the envelope way beyond mere sanity and into schizophrenia
handsome gay handsome piece handsome interpretation .. .
nice hair
mursum151: "the terrible performance" definition as said from trevjr is acceptable,not only if you compare it to Horowitz but above all if you think that Neuhaus's pupil were Richter & Gilels. Yes, it's a terrible performance. "It is already a great accomplish to be able to play this piece": WHAT? Are you know that Neuhaus was a concert player, a very famous piano teacher in the Moscow Conservatory and not an ordinary amateur pianist?!?
Wow it's 9 years but this pianist was Heinrich Neuhaus son
I'd give my hands for hair like that. Maybe not
@klausknulp I Hate u. lol. All the best.
He looks like skinny Jay Reno
My heart goes out to Mr. Neuhaus here. He seems so utterly uncomfortable... perhaps it is the inhuman and unforgiving camera. Clearly he is rushing phrases and on the defensive. Equally clearly, he is capable of much better in this piece. One wonders if there is another performance on record...
Or maybe they said "you gotta get it done in 3 minutes"....you never know what non-ideal conditions happen on TV recordings
Better a fast Scriabin than no Scriabin.
Terrible??...not at all.I find an adequate flowing in sentiments and a strong waving sound.If this all about musical expression,then,playing clearly has to be put aside...at least for now..
MUCH better pianist than his son.