The irony in this scene is that if they weren't shouting they'd hear Goldstein actually speaking on the method of control currently being used on them. You can hear snippets of it, he's talking about hate being used to distract from key issues.
@@dubaivizebizde He is obviously Trotsky, but it's also true for many years Stalin claimed the enemies of the USSR led by Trotsky still wished to overthrow the revolution even after Stalin had long had Trotsky killed with an Icepick.
In the book, Winston tells about what Gloldstein was talking about: freedom of speech, freedom of though, making peace with Eurasia... And Winston described as "unable to even deceive a child".
_"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic."_ This is something that stuck with me after reading the book.
Good point. That is why, if I could choose within the universe, I'd frankly go for being a Prole. Although it is said they do eliminate those who seem too conscious there as well, so RIP.
When I was a kid I used to go Leeds United football matches with my dad. When we were playing Coventry City, a player called Dion Dublin came close to our seats and everyone started chanting “scum” at him. Without thinking, I did too and when the commotion died down, I asked my dad why. Turns out it was because he used to play for Manchester United, Leeds’ arch rivals. I felt ashamed for yelling abuse at someone for no reason and years later when I read 1984, this struck a chord with me about how easily we as people can be manipulated into such behaviour.
Football fans can be tribal in the most brutal sense. Orwell would say it's used as a means to divide and keep the masses ie "proles" in their places, just wave a flag or a team's crest and they will fight each other instead and never threaten the real people in power, because they are distraced by trivial things.
I have had similar moments. When I was younger, my brother and I used to fight a lot. When he got in trouble with my mother, I would have an inexplicable rage come towards him. I wanted to scream along with my mother and punch him when he had committed no wrong towards me.
This film clip is very similar to a clip that circulated on social media shortly after Trump's win in 2016. Derranged women screaming like demons. I am certain that none of them had a clue about his manifesto or how he would govern.
It’s crazy how one second, a whole theater of people are screaming and cursing at the giant screen. Then, their anthem comes on and everyone stands and salutes. Orwell was a genius beyond belief.
@@slivorywings2821 in my observation social media sites seems to reward people for making vile or hateful comments. The community rewards them with likes and since there's no genuine discourse between the opposing sides, it's all a race to see who can get the most likes by being the cruelest. It's less of a prediction than an understanding of how people can act to one another if there are no consequences. Or worse, if they are rewarded with even the smallest degree of status.
That's because they're in on the joke and know that everything is fake and that "Goldstein" is really an actor ordered to say a carefully prepared speech designed to anger the masses and get them to be on the Party's side.
Maybe not everything is as it seems. Who is the Inner Party guy who appears so unimpressed at 1.24 and 1.25? That's O'Brien... If you look at his role in the rest of the story, he has a motive to appear like that...
@@girlgarde that's smart. Thx for explaining. This movie is quite a movie. Left me a little paranoid for a while after I saw it. I'll never forget the possible lesson in this movie: you must seem to be like the others. Another movie with a similar impact on me was the 80's remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Inner party members have perfected the way of doublethink. They both don't believe and do believe that this is true, because that's what the party demands from them and that's it
And the most shocking of all is that none of them has ever truly met there enemies. The people they are meant to hate, they've never met eye to eye nor seen personally. All they know of them is through the screen and what is being fed to them by the media machine.
Good example recently was the Russia/Ukraine war (is there even a war there?). Pathetic people just waving a flag of those countries even though they have no idea WTF is going on in reality. It's why I can't totally hate the inner parties' depopulation plan.
Orwell said: " If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." Since he didn't specify if it would be the left boot or the right one, I'd say it behooves us to keep an eye on BOTH. Especially the one that purports to be on your own side, since that's the one you're least likely to see coming.
@@pervysage4392 The tool of totalitarianism are pretty much the same regardless of if they're wielded by the the left, the right or even persons without any ideology at all.
I like how O'Brien turns around and looks at Julia like, "She's a little to excited about all of this." Also, its funny seeing all the Inner Party members look bored out of their minds.
They're probably bored because they know exactly what this exercise is meant to invoke, after all they designed it to do just that. They know the secret, its like trying to watch a magicians act, when not only do you know how the trick was done; you designed the trick.
Real quick, he actually looked at Winston, which was actually what gave Winston the idea that O'Brien is a thought-criminal. They looked each other in the eyes briefly and Winston sensed that he was trying to tell him something.
look as these political nutjobs bicker as the book analyzers put aside politics and look at the big picture instead of sqabbles over which color is best
"You should make friend of horror, horror and moral terror are your friends, if they're not then they are enemies to be feared." Befriending Freddy Kruger is badass Befriending Big Brother is not so much
It was definitely targeted at Marxist Leninist, probably because during the anarcho communist reverlotion in Spain (that he served in) Marxist Leninist switched sides to fight against the anarchists so it makes sense that he wouldn't be a fan of them.
God forbid people hate the overt leftwing conspiracy run by globalists to divide and destroy America and Europe with third world immigration... that would be so stupid.
@@samadams7006 man you are off the rails. Go to therapy and talk to a shrink about these things, they would probably advise you make regular appointments.
@@methgunerathne2377 That pun is so basic and non-functional that it’s not even funny, it’s just a forced punchline that requires improper grammar I didn’t even use to make sense. People like you need to start to realize that a joke isn’t automatically funny just because it’s in the lowest, most basic form possible, that just makes it cheap.
The terror of 1984 isn’t just about totalitarianism or authoritarianism in the broader sense. It’s more specifically about the controlling of the psychology of the population. With the restrictions of thought through the reduction of lexis. I think a lot of people should pay close attention to what the ideas are presented in the text.
@Sakkra101 you do have a small but good point thier, for example Josip broz Tito the dictator of Yugoslavia after World War II wasn't all interested in the stalinist style leadership that other communist leaders in Eastern Europe were getting instead he rejected Stalin's request to establish a satellite state government in Yugoslavia that worked in a similar manner as other satellite States in Eastern Europe and made plans of his own, which infuriated the Soviet Union mostly Stalin who in retaliation kicked them out of the cominform and the Eastern bloc Stalin was building, and later on order the nkvd to execute plots to assassinate Tito which failed 22 times. when Stalin died a note from Tito was discovered which was basically one of the most badass letters a world leader could write to another and the only thing that Sparks a possibility that Stalin didn't die from a stroke was poisoned by are you going to stop agent sent by Tito in retaliation to Stalin's attempts to assassinate him . This is what it said "from Josip broz Tito To Joseph Stalin Stop sending people to kill me we already captured five of them one with a bomb another with a rifle. if you don't cease your attempts to get rid of me, I'll send one to Moscow and as God as my witness this mine will be so skilled that I will not have to send another."
@@deisk2707 Its a type of mental control that involves slow removal of the lexicon that we all use to be abstract with for instance. Like beautiful, pretty or exquisite, being drawn down to just “good” or “doublegood”. To the point where ideas aren’t conceptualised. You may think there’s something in your mind that you know fully well, but you don’t have the word or the synonymous definition to apply it. Not sure if you’ve read 1984 but you should read, as its an interesting idea thats explored, not just the big bad government thats seen in other dystopias. Although it plays a major part in the narrative.
I like how O'Brien is looking at it both knowing that he and his Inner Party comrades created and maintain this deception while simultaneously believing all of it.
Being an inner party member is the ultimate act of doublethink You must simultaneously accept both the parties stated ideology of creating a better world for all but also its genuine ideology of power for its own sake at any cost
Actually it's about the left. INGSOC is newspeak (a language created by the party to rewrite English, and remove words they dislike) means English SOCIALISM. Orwell wrote this to warn of the rise of socialist dictatorships in the western world.
Dalton T While the meaning of INGSOC is right the original poster is right. It was only english socialism because Orwell found them to be stronger at the time thus more likely to take control and implement the system seen in the book. If the right had been stronger at the time it might have been them instead.
This current generation has Xi and the CCP, whose atrocities are just as horrible. Live organ harvesting, concentration camps, brutal crackdown on peaceful protests, and most recently: the new so-called HK national law, by which anyone, even foreign nationals, can be arrested for criticising the CCP.
social media that’s why in this current climate I’m too lost for words to say anything. The world has gone mad. Pulling TV shows off the air because ‘it make fun of the Germans’ (Faulty Towers). I think I’m in the Twilight Zone or Oceania, where I MUST toe the line & have no opinion of my own.
@Jim Bobjones "freedom lovers" ok buddy if you really would rather live under authoritarian government than allow people to get abortions you're insane.
People in the comments saying this is conservatives, this is wokes, this is hamas, this is russia, this is israel, this is the west, etc. This is the attitude that resembles the people in this clip You are seething at everything you read and hear on the news and online and don't see others as humans
@@saricubra2867 Doesn't matter what kinds of totalitarianisms there are. People who let social media or the television control their hatred are all victims of the authoritative abuse of the state.
@@sppsports2449 yeah I got that, you know when you read a book before watching the movie and its unsettling how unlike the way you imagine them the characters are...well this might be the only time the actress looks more or less extracty the same as the Julia in my head
I would disagree in saying "average" peoplele are mindless and gullible if the original story shows us anything its that the people don't actually "think" of there own free will that big brother is good and that there society as a whole is good its that none of them have the courage or drive to stand against it they became complacent and at its root complacency is the lifeblood of toleration society Complacency and indifference
Not Cthulhu they are stuck in a limbic loop where the body’s sense of experience must pass through emotion & feelings before reaching Logic & Reasoning
Callum Fisher please explain to me how hate speech isn’t a form of “thoughtcrime”. Explain how shutting down people’s social media and platforms cause they don’t fit a narrative isnt “thoughtcrime”. We not be bad as 1984 but we’re sure on a straight road towards it
Take a careful look to realise that Inner Party members do not shout or act like an angry mob unlike the Outer Party members, and despite that no one thinks it is weird. They are also given first row seats.
@@girlgarde Even if the outer members know its fake, none of them would risk being persecuted for not acting like the group, reinforcing the action. Seems kind of familiar?
This is the only comment I've seen about social media being like this and it's accurate, it's not mocking 1 specific social media but all of them, it also exists outside of the internet too
that's because they always think the other side is...... and sadly, both sides are usually correct....... when media convinces you, that culture is what we should fight about, you won't notice, that president is laundering trillions of your taxes on fabricated war in ukraine...... that's how it works
I like the details of this scene: 1) While all the others are basically giving themselves aneurysms from shouting so passionately with hatred, the most forward sitting higher up are just watching, solemnly. They do not have to shout and scream, they know that this is all an act 2) 1:23 - that look he gives her. It is not of "Such passion for our cause and hatred for our enemies, well done". No, he sees for what it is - her trying to hard meaning she is actually thinking completely differently
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In a society where you are monitored almost constantly, and must strictly control and repress your emotions, something like the two minutes hate is very cathartic.
Omg I couldn't imagine living in a place where you are constantly monitored! (Has an Alexa, TV, Phone, etc in every room of the house) wow imagine being monitored! Like how when you download half of these social media applications they're all capable of reading your keylogs and they all have contracts with the CIA and FBI, I couldn't possibly fathom living in a world of control
@@ilikecinema1234 Yeah, but do you literally get unexisted for thinking the wrong way? Didn't think so. Corporations, as much as I hate them, use our data to make money.
"I didn't mean to threaten to shoot up a school and kill all liberals! Please let me back on! 😭😭😭 Oh well at least there's still -Terrorist Twitter- Parler!"
@@erica6488 interesting that the only means through which you find grounds to criticise them, is through a vague assumption which they in no way allude to. Almost like you don’t have much of a point Erica.
To prevent this, you have to do only one thing: listen to those who you disagree with. And remember, there are always those how listen when you speak. So thinke before you open your mouth.
I agree so much with your advice, I've even said something similar in a recent debate. I appreciate that you point out both how we speak and how we interpret speech matters, for all sides. Sadly, that's exactly what 1984 ideology and Two Minutes Hate itself go against- and I associate it with every exaggeration of an ideology that has existed in history, each inspires arguments I see on a daily basis.
@Your Standard Dart Another topic I've been thinking of and seen debates about. With me it went the other way round, the more I thought of them and the words of those who advocated them, the less I liked the idea. However it's possible there was miscommunication with those particular people, be it a problem on my end, theirs, or both. Maybe I'd understand the arguments better if someone else had explained in their way, like it happened with you. I'm always interested to hear new points of view, they've expanded my views as well. My issue isn't so much being against the warnings, but against being obligated to use them, and it further has to do with social circles I frankly find overly sensitive (just to be clear, I'm an even less fan of the overly insensitive). So I don't mind them as an option, but I do as a must.
If anything I believe this way of thinking expands our views, as it allows us to understand opposing points. thus making us more experienced and knowledgeable, which is pretty much opposite from naive. I also view idealism as a good thing because I feel it's important for conscience and depth; if not completely (because material aspects are part of our world too) then at least as something I'd put above materialism as I find it a morally and metnally better choice.
Recently I've been caused to reflect on this book. Fortunate to have read this fairly young and has been a touchstone through my life. Orwell was trying to share our human nature with us, and to see trends in culture not so much for what they are now, but what they may become. To see dangerous precedents being set. Personally I'm guilty of watching a lot of RUclips content, some verging on hateful. I got thinking about the 2 minutes of hate from 1984 and saw a bit of a parallel to my own present day existence.
This scene really captivates me with how mindless they act. It really strikes the fear of groupthink into my heart and makes me want to be sure to have my own opinions.
0:08 -- even when I saw the movie for the very first time, I think I somehow knew, "That is Julia." In fact, all the principal parts were extremely well cast.
The book is normally a mandatory read or on the syllabus in English Literature, at least in my day. It may have been removed along with Animal Farm so people don't understand what they're facing anymore...
“The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in.”
Terrifyingly appropriate. It's not Left vs Right anymore: it's authority vs liberty; it's individualism vs collectivism; most of all, it's a battle between the two methods by which we ultimately resolve any dispute: talk or violence. I hope everyone who reads this picks the first one. I hope everyone who'd rather shut down the first one via the second or in order to initiate the second (for whatever reason) seriously thinks about their reasons. Because if you're doing it for what you genuinely believe are moral reasons, then I can only say that in your desperation to achieve 'rightness' you're destroying it for yourself and everyone else.
@Poltiticslogicallyreformed. This is complete BS. The right is much less accepting of new ideas, but the left is very accepting of new ideas, but can't tolerate old ideas, even if they make sense. Two sides of the same coin. One is too progressive to the point where old things that work fine are not tolerated, but new ideas, no matter how much sense they make, are adopted, and one is too conservative to the point that even new, better ideas are not preferable to old ideas that don't work anymore. Please stop making this about left vs right, it's exactly what the facists and communists want. We should all unite against authoritarianism.
It’s not even left and right at some point, it’s circular. You get far enough right or far enough left and you’re left with the exact same ideology. Which is to subject and control the masses under the guise of “unity.” People need to abandon the left/right mindset and think for themselves as individuals and be able to deal with someone having a differing opinion. It’s the only way to escape a very bleak outcome
@@floater7082: First and most important rule of polite discussion to invite the free-flow of idea’s is: DO NOT BEGIN YOUR STATEMENT BY INSULTING THE OTHER PERSON.
Big Brother is so confident in its control that they can play an articulate and factual deconstruction of their entire system and people will refuse to listen to it.
By a very wide margin, the most profoundly depressing book I’ve ever read. I literally almost could not finish it, and took a couple of days to shake off its spell. Those last chapters, in particular, are brutal. Of course, being susceptible to depression to begin with doesn’t help… lulz.
A late response but I sadly have to agree. I finished reading it during work and I had to listen to some more positive things to shake it off. It is still lingering, the fear of the fragility of humanity and if we don't be careful the future of our species can be controlled by those who are apart of us.
Wait... 1984 isn't a critic of capitalism/big business... It's a critic of Stalinism. George Orwell was a democratic socialist who critiqued against totalitarian regimes
Well, it helps that it's masterfully transferred from one of the prints which has the bleach bypass as used by Deakins. :) The recent Criterion has a transfer by Deakins himself, but doesn't have the bluish-grey tint used in the prints.
Filmed on film instead of digital, with no CGI as well. Don't let the film companies and paid reviewers try to misinform you. We've not yet replicated the fidelity of film, and CGI can range from dreadful to passable depending on budget. Meanwhile high quality film and a great soundtrack with real actors based on a chilling book/screenplay cannot be matched.
It's almost the same in Turkey now. Only differance is that (Big Brother) Erdogan's party AKP (Ingsoc) call it "Paralel" instead of Goldstein. And party supporters always believe what Erdogan says even if there is contradiction in terms everytime. It is really madness. God help us.
Your an idiot .why do you think his people helped him when he needed them (the missed coup d'état) because his a good president . If he was a bad one they would never help
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The irony in this scene is that if they weren't shouting they'd hear Goldstein actually speaking on the method of control currently being used on them. You can hear snippets of it, he's talking about hate being used to distract from key issues.
Goldstein might even fake to unite the folk against an enemy and confusing them
@@dubaivizebizde He is obviously Trotsky, but it's also true for many years Stalin claimed the enemies of the USSR led by Trotsky still wished to overthrow the revolution even after Stalin had long had Trotsky killed with an Icepick.
@@fish2036 i think revalations need statü enemies to survive
One wonders what would happen to them if they weren't shouting, though.
In the book, Winston tells about what Gloldstein was talking about: freedom of speech, freedom of though, making peace with Eurasia... And Winston described as "unable to even deceive a child".
Not a phone insight. People just living the moment. Beautiful!
Try explaining the Two Minutes Hate to kids today. They'll never understand the true principles of Ingsoc!
Best comment here lol
There is a giant TV tho
It was 1984 after all.
@@jamesrogers8527 im 15 and i understand prettt much all of ideas represented here lmao
Some people just can't behave themselves in a movie theatre.
That’s a nice comment, among a sea of poorly worded and ill surmised rhetoric.
This is the best comment amongst pseudo-intellectual comments
@@kiva_kaze S O C I E T Y
@@lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394 yup, every other comment is that bs 😂
Dude, that just made my day, lol!
_"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic."_
This is something that stuck with me after reading the book.
sound like a pandemic
@@pouetpouetdaddy5 what.
social contagion
Have you ever been in a football game or basketball game where one side scores?
It's impossible to NOT be caught in the wave of people.
grimace from mcdonalds?
1984 has always genuinely terrified me because of the 'no-escape' feel. You literally cannot escape or leave. There is nowhere else to go.
Good point. That is why, if I could choose within the universe, I'd frankly go for being a Prole. Although it is said they do eliminate those who seem too conscious there as well, so RIP.
That is, if Big Brother isn’t lying about the state of the rest of the world, and tbh idk which is more terrifying
Welcome to now.
doubleplusgood comment
Where would you like to escape? In ideal society there is no need to escape.
Redditors when a ten year old says they don’t think Keanu reeves is a legend
People are actually very uncivil as how as they think their targets are. Free speech never exist.
Wholesome 100
Swappo So you just prove it correct, Redditors are bloodthirsty.
Redditors when they see a kid who doesnt like their wholesome 100 keanu chungus meme
Redditors when an 11 year old plays Fortnite/uses Tik Tok
We must always remember:
War is tragedy
Ignorance is weakness
Freedom is responsibility
Big Brother is definitely Watching You.
dude watch out you’re about to be unexisted
@@richardcallihan9746 ?
Zanir states correctly above, mocking the Orwelling dystopian slogan. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength
Watch out for the thought police😂.
1:46 The guy giving it all. Perfect scene. Captures the atmosphere. The anthem at the end is a relieve for me as a viewers too.
Weirdly the most stolen book in Russia, wouldn't want a record of having bought one! "1984!" 🎉🇺🇦💙
@@j.dunlop8295RUSSIA AND UKRAINE? NO
THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF OCEANIA ALL ALONG
THOUGHTCRIME!
idiotic comment, missing the point entirely.
@@j.dunlop8295What does that even mean
So this is what Twitter looks like in real life.
@Shane L Can we blame both?
Coments RUclips.
@Shane L this is literally US
@Shane L aged poorly xD
Supreme Court of Twitter
When I was a kid I used to go Leeds United football matches with my dad. When we were playing Coventry City, a player called Dion Dublin came close to our seats and everyone started chanting “scum” at him. Without thinking, I did too and when the commotion died down, I asked my dad why. Turns out it was because he used to play for Manchester United, Leeds’ arch rivals. I felt ashamed for yelling abuse at someone for no reason and years later when I read 1984, this struck a chord with me about how easily we as people can be manipulated into such behaviour.
Football fans can be tribal in the most brutal sense. Orwell would say it's used as a means to divide and keep the masses ie "proles" in their places, just wave a flag or a team's crest and they will fight each other instead and never threaten the real people in power, because they are distraced by trivial things.
@@fish2036 on the other hand, it can also bring people together
I have had similar moments. When I was younger, my brother and I used to fight a lot. When he got in trouble with my mother, I would have an inexplicable rage come towards him. I wanted to scream along with my mother and punch him when he had committed no wrong towards me.
This film clip is very similar to a clip that circulated on social media shortly after Trump's win in 2016. Derranged women screaming like demons. I am certain that none of them had a clue about his manifesto or how he would govern.
I felt the same after going to a Leeds United match with my dad, after accidentally cheering for the other side...
It’s crazy how one second, a whole theater of people are screaming and cursing at the giant screen. Then, their anthem comes on and everyone stands and salutes. Orwell was a genius beyond belief.
some believe he was a time traveler
@@CrispyChikenSammich or he jst knew it was coming cause its inspired by hitler and stalin
Make 1984 fiction again.
@@CrispyChikenSammich Some believe e was in on it.
a genius. or a prophet. or an insider giving us the normal heads up.
who can really say?
but damn, did he call it on the head.
Their INGSOC salute makes perfect sense. When would you have your wrists crossed like that? When you're being arrested. In shackles....
I love movies where girls are tied arms over head, like alex daddario in bereavement where her armpits are exposed
nice catch
The only thing they got wrong is that it’s millions of tiny screens instead of one big one.
Yep and everyone shouts with their thumbs 🤙🏻
Even worse that screen IS attached basically to the body
we're in too deep
Imagine even owning a phone.
And it's tuned in to CNN?
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Criticising Islam is Islamophobia
Charles Britannia the Republican way.
Chase Alford Well, INGSOC was based off of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.
Such a beautiful quote
Diversity is Strength
Orwell was ahead of his time.
No, it has always been like this in one form or another.
He should see the world now it’s slowly becoming a reality
@MrTsiolkovsky Except it wasn't an "expose of horrors". It's called "betrayal".
@MrTsiolkovsky yeah, he lied so much and then he regretted
@@throwfascistsintopits3062 yeah, he did not expose in his book about Catalonia the bad side of the left. He changed afterwards
The man predicted social media comment sections.
Exactly.
Weirdly the most stolen book in Russia, wouldn't want a record of having bought one! "1984!" 🎉🇺🇦
Can you tell me how.
@@slivorywings2821 in my observation social media sites seems to reward people for making vile or hateful comments. The community rewards them with likes and since there's no genuine discourse between the opposing sides, it's all a race to see who can get the most likes by being the cruelest. It's less of a prediction than an understanding of how people can act to one another if there are no consequences. Or worse, if they are rewarded with even the smallest degree of status.
yes
Buzzfeed staff meeting.
HAH
nightflight83 Lol!!Yup
LOL
nightflight83
You win the internet!
And unfortunately it’s not a joke. It’s realz
I like it how the Inner Party members are just like "Yeah, okay."
Deep down they know it's all bullshit but they don't care because they get the long end of the stick
That's because they're in on the joke and know that everything is fake and that "Goldstein" is really an actor ordered to say a carefully prepared speech designed to anger the masses and get them to be on the Party's side.
Maybe not everything is as it seems. Who is the Inner Party guy who appears so unimpressed at 1.24 and 1.25? That's O'Brien... If you look at his role in the rest of the story, he has a motive to appear like that...
@@girlgarde that's smart. Thx for explaining. This movie is quite a movie. Left me a little paranoid for a while after I saw it. I'll never forget the possible lesson in this movie: you must seem to be like the others.
Another movie with a similar impact on me was the 80's remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Inner party members have perfected the way of doublethink. They both don't believe and do believe that this is true, because that's what the party demands from them and that's it
You control the media, you control the people.
You control the people, you control the government
Imma do that.
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You control the government, you control the world
You control the toilet paper, you control the a$$holes
And the most shocking of all is that none of them has ever truly met there enemies. The people they are meant to hate, they've never met eye to eye nor seen personally. All they know of them is through the screen and what is being fed to them by the media machine.
Good example recently was the Russia/Ukraine war (is there even a war there?). Pathetic people just waving a flag of those countries even though they have no idea WTF is going on in reality. It's why I can't totally hate the inner parties' depopulation plan.
Modern Russia thrives on hatred, it's just like this. And doublethink underpins their society.
@@ClamMan1989 Yeah and here in the west we thrive on deep understanding of other peoples culture. XD
@@ThunderSen I'm not American
@@ClamMan1989 Neither am I.
Orwell said: " If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." Since he didn't specify if it would be the left boot or the right one, I'd say it behooves us to keep an eye on BOTH. Especially the one that purports to be on your own side, since that's the one you're least likely to see coming.
Always kill traitors before the enemy.
@@pervysage4392 The tool of totalitarianism are pretty much the same regardless of if they're wielded by the the left, the right or even persons without any ideology at all.
@@pervysage4392 Horseshoe Theory.
Orwell was a Socialist, 1984 is him attacking the right and USSR (which was not left wing in the slightest)
@@pervysage4392 two peas in a pod.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.'
George Carlin
I miss George. Back when I could watch comedians I disagreed with sometimes, but could still make me laugh.
At least we can hope these in the clip are pretending...while I'm not sure irl.
@@natalieanimal4063 People wanted a zombie apocalypse. Well, guess what ... you got one.
"Never underestimate governments."
-George Carlin, summarized.
We are all stupid. We are not superior to anybody.
I like how O'Brien turns around and looks at Julia like, "She's a little to excited about all of this."
Also, its funny seeing all the Inner Party members look bored out of their minds.
Every DemSoc meeting is like that
One of them looks like DR.Fauci
They're probably bored because they know exactly what this exercise is meant to invoke, after all they designed it to do just that. They know the secret, its like trying to watch a magicians act, when not only do you know how the trick was done; you designed the trick.
Real quick, he actually looked at Winston, which was actually what gave Winston the idea that O'Brien is a thought-criminal. They looked each other in the eyes briefly and Winston sensed that he was trying to tell him something.
look as these political nutjobs bicker as the book analyzers put aside politics and look at the big picture instead of sqabbles over which color is best
As a child: Horror is Stephen King novels and Friday 13th.
As an adult: Horror is the world of 1984.
Both can still be horrifying as and adult. But both are very different horrors
"You should make friend of horror, horror and moral terror are your friends, if they're not then they are enemies to be feared."
Befriending Freddy Kruger is badass
Befriending Big Brother is not so much
@@gomerjomer9209agreed but one is far more insidious and realistic than the other
I love how George Orwell targeted this at both sides of the political spectrum, but each side uses it as a representation of the other.
@@OJ1992 Well he certainly attacked the right when we fought the fascists in Spain
@@OJ1992 A shame yes, but that doesn't and didn't diminish his legacy, a socialist who despised authoritarianism.
@@OJ1992 Fair enough, I suppose
@@OJ1992 What?
It was definitely targeted at Marxist Leninist, probably because during the anarcho communist reverlotion in Spain (that he served in) Marxist Leninist switched sides to fight against the anarchists so it makes sense that he wouldn't be a fan of them.
I just love how half the comment section straight up mirrors the film scene while not even noticing it
Duh people acting like a herd is exactly like this scene, aren't I so big brained for saying this.
God forbid people hate the overt leftwing conspiracy run by globalists to divide and destroy America and Europe with third world immigration... that would be so stupid.
@@samadams7006 man you are off the rails. Go to therapy and talk to a shrink about these things, they would probably advise you make regular appointments.
@@samadams7006 again off the rails. What are you talking about?
@@bl7828 Google "drag queen story hour," idiot.
1984 is easily the scariest story of all time
What is the story tho?
@@cothinker680 a story about a global authoritarian/totalitarian world
@Brandon Hopkins You sound like one of these people. Mindlessly following what you read in conspiracy theories online.
And we are living it now
@@cothinker680 Read it yourself
This was such a faithful adaptation of the book. John Hurt himself did an incredible job as Winston.
Why did John hurt himself making this movie
@@methgunerathne2377 That pun is so basic and non-functional that it’s not even funny, it’s just a forced punchline that requires improper grammar I didn’t even use to make sense.
People like you need to start to realize that a joke isn’t automatically funny just because it’s in the lowest, most basic form possible, that just makes it cheap.
@@AfrewSpines what da hell
@@AfrewSpines lighten up pal
@@cookieking1996 No, people can just make smarter comedy, bars being set so low is a *bad* thing. 🤷🏻♂️
The terror of 1984 isn’t just about totalitarianism or authoritarianism in the broader sense. It’s more specifically about the controlling of the psychology of the population. With the restrictions of thought through the reduction of lexis. I think a lot of people should pay close attention to what the ideas are presented in the text.
If you have combining the novel with "The Prince" written by Nicolai Machiavelli then you know that this is what the politics is.
@Sakkra101 you do have a small but good point thier, for example Josip broz Tito the dictator of Yugoslavia after World War II wasn't all interested in the stalinist style leadership that other communist leaders in Eastern Europe were getting instead he rejected Stalin's request to establish a satellite state government in Yugoslavia that worked in a similar manner as other satellite States in Eastern Europe and made plans of his own, which infuriated the Soviet Union mostly Stalin who in retaliation kicked them out of the cominform and the Eastern bloc Stalin was building, and later on order the nkvd to execute plots to assassinate Tito which failed 22 times. when Stalin died a note from Tito was discovered which was basically one of the most badass letters a world leader could write to another and the only thing that Sparks a possibility that Stalin didn't die from a stroke was poisoned by are you going to stop agent sent by Tito in retaliation to Stalin's attempts to assassinate him . This is what it said "from Josip broz Tito
To Joseph Stalin
Stop sending people to kill me we already captured five of them one with a bomb another with a rifle. if you don't cease your attempts to get rid of me, I'll send one to Moscow and as God as my witness this mine will be so skilled that I will not have to send another."
Thats is EXACTLY THE POINT of it all.
The biggest warning he gave us in this book is about mind control by the state over people's lives.
So it's basically a process of mind control.
@@deisk2707 Its a type of mental control that involves slow removal of the lexicon that we all use to be abstract with for instance. Like beautiful, pretty or exquisite, being drawn down to just “good” or “doublegood”. To the point where ideas aren’t conceptualised. You may think there’s something in your mind that you know fully well, but you don’t have the word or the synonymous definition to apply it.
Not sure if you’ve read 1984 but you should read, as its an interesting idea thats explored, not just the big bad government thats seen in other dystopias. Although it plays a major part in the narrative.
I like how O'Brien is looking at it both knowing that he and his Inner Party comrades created and maintain this deception while simultaneously believing all of it.
It they job and what he and her co worker got some freedom not much but still he know it fake and also believe it
Being an inner party member is the ultimate act of doublethink
You must simultaneously accept both the parties stated ideology of creating a better world for all but also its genuine ideology of power for its own sake at any cost
The people that say "This is about the right/left" are exactly the people being portrayed in this clip
Out of all the languages you would've spoken, you've decided to speak facts 💯
^ Exactly as the OP says, it's about both/all sides.
@William Rockwell lol ok
Yeah no, its not about left or right, it about how you educate children and generating their future and totalitarianism
@William Rockwell imagine being so dumb you prove peoples points
I loved that scene where Winston threw the Telescreen and said "Say my name" for Julia to then say "You're Goldenberg"
I loved the show "Breaking Brother" where Big Brother big brothered all over the place
My favourite is the scene in 1984 when he says "It's 1984 time" and then proceeded to 1984 all over the place. Truly one of the moments in the film.
The Left: This is about the Right.
The Right: This is about the Left.
Orwell: This is about Totalitarianism.
Actually it's about the left. INGSOC is newspeak (a language created by the party to rewrite English, and remove words they dislike) means English SOCIALISM. Orwell wrote this to warn of the rise of socialist dictatorships in the western world.
@@daltont3878 But he also fought fascism in Spain, he opposed all totalitarian ideologies wither it be fascism or socialism.
Dalton T While the meaning of INGSOC is right the original poster is right. It was only english socialism because Orwell found them to be stronger at the time thus more likely to take control and implement the system seen in the book. If the right had been stronger at the time it might have been them instead.
Dalton T orwell was a socialist.
@@daltont3878
Sources?
Every comment section ever
Beck 🐰
Beck So true...
Beck every anti trump protest ever
The best comparison so far.
Beck so true XD
We’re reading this book in my English class and I can’t help but realize that Orwell called it on a lot of things, scary.
you realize you are being forced to read this book... right? if you told George Orwell that, he would hate it.
the_openers_of_eyes we weren’t forced to do anything lol a lot of people didn’t read and they still passed
This current generation has Xi and the CCP, whose atrocities are just as horrible. Live organ harvesting, concentration camps, brutal crackdown on peaceful protests, and most recently: the new so-called HK national law, by which anyone, even foreign nationals, can be arrested for criticising the CCP.
You know this was meant as a reflection of current times
@Pybro It's actually a reflection of past times.
me when I cannot dip my balls in the Burger King soda machine
Cruel opression of the world on the enlightened ones
Finally someone that speaks the truth
wot
literally 1984
GET AWAY FROM ME!!!!!
*THE STRONG CONTROL THEIR EMOTIONS, THE WEAK LET THEIR EMOTIONS CONTROL THEM*
social media that’s why in this current climate I’m too lost for words to say anything. The world has gone mad. Pulling TV shows off the air because ‘it make fun of the Germans’ (Faulty Towers).
I think I’m in the Twilight Zone or Oceania, where I MUST toe the line & have no opinion of my own.
ngl that sounds pretty emotional
Droop Smoop that’s because you’re slow
THE POWERFUL DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM
It's Okay no its only the two, you cant reinvent the wheel
1:07 "The party doesn't serve the people, it serves the state,"
-Goldstein
Booo!! You suck!!
Vive la brotherhood! Vive la comrade Goldstein , Democratic Revolotionary
Ata Fire Isn't Goldstein similar to Trotsky?
@@ylokky65 Yea ( evet yani benzer :) )
Ata Fire Türk müydün la
If twitter were a movie theater:
And yet people act like they are stuck and forced to be on Twitter / X.
Yep.
A good reason to leave 'X'.
It's in the hands of a man who values money over people.
“I wish people would stop using me when they don’t have an argument on Twitter.” -George Orwell
gavin dhailwal it’s a joke
gavin dhailwal r/wooosh
Conner Satterborn: Charged with wrongthink. Unperson. Report to Thinkpol. Rectify.
Some random Toaster I get the joke
Mazxj Stripes you’re right. He’s probably say people should be more wary of authoritarians instead of policing jokes.
This actually pisses me off that society is becoming this and people voluntarily giving up their freedom for bs ideologies. Weak
Hail authority
This hysteria will go on for years and years
No, it isn’t. Unless you live in North Korea.
@@thespamdance311 How ironic the people in 1984 also had no clue it was happening to them.
@Jim Bobjones "freedom lovers" ok buddy if you really would rather live under authoritarian government than allow people to get abortions you're insane.
People in the comments saying this is conservatives, this is wokes, this is hamas, this is russia, this is israel, this is the west, etc.
This is the attitude that resembles the people in this clip
You are seething at everything you read and hear on the news and online and don't see others as humans
This is totalitarianism, there are many kinds of totalitarianism, socially, economically speaking, racial, etc.
Ah, so everyone is immune from being depicted in this manner. NO.
THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE? 🤪
@@saricubra2867um, no? Totally 🤪
@@saricubra2867 Doesn't matter what kinds of totalitarianisms there are. People who let social media or the television control their hatred are all victims of the authoritative abuse of the state.
I love feisty Julia, and the way she tells Winston how hard she finds it to stop herself from laughing during the Hate:)
Yes! Also they captured Julia's appearance very well in this movie. Freckles, dark short hair, was great casting.
@@sppsports2449 yeah I got that, you know when you read a book before watching the movie and its unsettling how unlike the way you imagine them the characters are...well this might be the only time the actress looks more or less extracty the same as the Julia in my head
George Orwell was spot on with how mindless and gullible average people are.
Arse Robinson Indeed, one only has to read through the comments under this video and see the "SJW/Trump" comments
Indeed. Yet you, dear intellectual, are much smarter and have been enlightened by your own intelligence.
A smart person doesent need to say it
I would disagree in saying "average" peoplele are mindless and gullible
if the original story shows us anything its that the people don't actually "think" of there own free will that big brother is good and that there society as a whole is good
its that none of them have the courage or drive to stand against it
they became complacent and at its root complacency is the lifeblood of toleration society
Complacency and indifference
No wonder why they make such bad content 🤔
so called “free thinkers” when they’re told not to go 80 mph in a school zone
I get a two minutes of hate whenever I advocate drunk driving as a form of self-care.
I have rights to commit vehicular manslaughter
I hate when this happens to me everytime i walk with my home-made granade launcher in the streets
@@somebodyonce5976 it's called a booze cruise.
I've always found it interesting that "Free Thinkers" all think the same things..
I love the part when he said "it's Big brotherin time" and Big brothered all over the theater room , truly one of the orwellian moments of all time .
“Say my name.”
*”You’re Zoghlemburg.”*
“You’re goddamn right.”
You aren't funny
take my reddit gold
@@Dr.KarlowTheOctoling lol
This is the moment George became Orwellberg
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize
lol, bullshit unsubstantiated claim. No one is exempted from criticism, you are confusing hate speech with criticism.
we need to rise up against children with leukemia
@@Jdon-pd1tn Lol, literally the best analogy i've heard. Pretty much sums up what these losers believe in.
Basically Xi Jinping in China.
....as Voltaire NEVER said, despite the bullshit claims to the contrary.
Remember, this is what the OTHER side acts like!
You're trapped in the bipartisan loop my friend.
Egg Zachary
@Daniel von Strangle That's very "Remember, this is what the OTHER party will do!"
That’s just what someone on the other side would say
Not Cthulhu they are stuck in a limbic loop where the body’s sense of experience must pass through emotion & feelings before reaching Logic & Reasoning
We’re basically already at this point.
Obviously never read the book then.
Callum Fisher makes no sense bro He obviously doesn’t have to he’s watching the damn clip
Capt nuggets the fact that he even has an opinion means that we clearly are not anywhere close to this point.
Callum Fisher please explain to me how hate speech isn’t a form of “thoughtcrime”. Explain how shutting down people’s social media and platforms cause they don’t fit a narrative isnt “thoughtcrime”. We not be bad as 1984 but we’re sure on a straight road towards it
Capt nuggets I suppose thats right.
Nighteen Eighty-Four:It's just a fiction.
North Korea:You sure 'bout that??
Idk anyone who's unironically said "1984 is just a fiction". I mean anyone with an IQ over 10 can tell that it's obviously a political message.
Cuba: Am I a joke to you?
Dear google.
1984 wasn't intended to be an instruction manual.
Loll if you think that google is authoritian you deserved to get 1984 government
If you know anyone who went to work for Google and watch their ideology change to fit what Google teaches them,well it's depressing really.
@@texastaxes6016
Damn. What a stupid comment
@@MichaelJ44 reasoning by any chance?
Google? If google really was authoritarian you wouldn’t find this clip and you would have already been arrested for attempting to find it lmao
Take a careful look to realise that Inner Party members do not shout or act like an angry mob unlike the Outer Party members, and despite that no one thinks it is weird. They are also given first row seats.
That's because they know the truth plus they fabricated the entire film that they're watching to keep the masses in line.
@@girlgarde Even if the outer members know its fake, none of them would risk being persecuted for not acting like the group, reinforcing the action. Seems kind of familiar?
@@wianprinsloo2817 Many sports events, religious events and political rallies like that too.
When you are the only guy in the room that has never watched game of thrones
Ay same bro
Hahaha!!!
Traitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
can relate
do yourself a favour and never watch it.
The left: This is about the right.
The right: This is about the left.
Orwell: This is about the inner and the outer.
It is fascinating how few people get this basic element of the story.
USSR: Bans the book for being anti communist.
America: Also bans it, but for being pro communist.
Me: What?
Banning books in the USA is illegal.
@@TheoTungsten yeah I swear it’s not banned
it wasn't banned all over the US, but a county in Florida did ban it for being pro-communist
@@TheoTungsten Tell that to readers who like Dr. Seuss or When Harry Became Sally. Both effectively banned by the communist Left in America.
@@meerkat1954 Dr. Seuss made kids books
Not just Twitter, nor Reddit, this is literally every social media
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@@nombregenerico3771 Susan Wojak
@@rudolphconners4559 she just left
This is the only comment I've seen about social media being like this and it's accurate, it's not mocking 1 specific social media but all of them, it also exists outside of the internet too
it's so sad when you realize how hard it is to prove to people they are being manipulated 😑
that's because they always think the other side is...... and sadly, both sides are usually correct....... when media convinces you, that culture is what we should fight about, you won't notice, that president is laundering trillions of your taxes on fabricated war in ukraine...... that's how it works
From the movie or from real life?
@@Trov4dor yes
@@Trov4dorboth
It's easier to lie to the people than it is to convince them they've been lied to
I like the details of this scene:
1) While all the others are basically giving themselves aneurysms from shouting so passionately with hatred, the most forward sitting higher up are just watching, solemnly. They do not have to shout and scream, they know that this is all an act
2) 1:23 - that look he gives her. It is not of "Such passion for our cause and hatred for our enemies, well done". No, he sees for what it is - her trying to hard meaning she is actually thinking completely differently
No O'brien was looking at Winston, you didn't read the book
When someone dislikes your preferred presidential candidate
This looks mighty familiar ...
*Stares at social media apprehensively*
Peter: Accused of microaggression. Suspect; possibly a white male. Delete post and shadowban. Proceed with doxxing. Report to Political Correctness and Wellness Center.
@@luangu You know what I'm just gonna cancel myself before anyone else gets to. Put me on that list too.
(Welp, I just turned into Parsons).
@@luangu Victim mentality moment
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
how many fingers u see bro?
@@Jeff1999PB2 5!
Life is Death
Neck biting is hot.
@@Jeff1999PB2 Six.
In a society where you are monitored almost constantly, and must strictly control and repress your emotions, something like the two minutes hate is very cathartic.
Omg I couldn't imagine living in a place where you are constantly monitored! (Has an Alexa, TV, Phone, etc in every room of the house) wow imagine being monitored! Like how when you download half of these social media applications they're all capable of reading your keylogs and they all have contracts with the CIA and FBI, I couldn't possibly fathom living in a world of control
@ilikecinema1234
If you're paranoid about the things you say being seen by the FBI, then that says a lot about the kind of things you say lmao
Things like "Freedom is the power to say 2+2=4" really gets a lot of blowback on social media these days. Trans men are men after all!@@Tulip_bip
@@ilikecinema1234 Yeah, but do you literally get unexisted for thinking the wrong way? Didn't think so. Corporations, as much as I hate them, use our data to make money.
@alum202 Like brother were you born yesterday, the Boeing idiot just died like two weeks ago
Rest in peace John Hurt
Amen. He was a fixture on TWO generations of movie goers. Seemingly 48 his entire life, he had a charm that was entirely unique.
Did he get Hurt?
@@siyacer He lived in a Dystopian world, had an Alien burst through his chest, became the Roman Emperor, and lived in a Turkish Prison of course he is
1984: Hate week
2020: Cancel culture in Twitter
"I didn't mean to threaten to shoot up a school and kill all liberals! Please let me back on! 😭😭😭 Oh well at least there's still -Terrorist Twitter- Parler!"
Not Cthulhu get out of here your probably a big lover of identity politics
@@NotCthulhu please stfu, you must be a 13 year old girl
They should do an special like this "2 minutes of hate"
@@erica6488 interesting that the only means through which you find grounds to criticise them, is through a vague assumption which they in no way allude to. Almost like you don’t have much of a point Erica.
*[THIS COMMENT WAS DELETED BY ORDERS OF THE BIG BROTHER]*
By orders of the ministry of love
The vans are outside now...
Front
And
Back
*On
By is fine.
At least Big Brother has the courtesy to tell you it's been deleted, unlike RUclips.
This comment never existed. You are deluding yourself.
1984 wasn’t supposed to be a manual
Weirdly the most stolen book in Russia, wouldn't want a record of having bought one! "1984!" 😅
@@j.dunlop8295 As long as it is widely read and not banned, everything is going well.
Twitter mobs calling for someone to be fired
As they should be
@@texastaxes6016 why
@@texastaxes6016 Shut up
Edgy bootlicker who has never read 1984 doesn't like it when rapists get kicked off social media by a private corporation.
As they should lol
To prevent this, you have to do only one thing: listen to those who you disagree with.
And remember, there are always those how listen when you speak. So thinke before you open your mouth.
I agree so much with your advice, I've even said something similar in a recent debate. I appreciate that you point out both how we speak and how we interpret speech matters, for all sides. Sadly, that's exactly what 1984 ideology and Two Minutes Hate itself go against- and I associate it with every exaggeration of an ideology that has existed in history, each inspires arguments I see on a daily basis.
@Your Standard Dart Another topic I've been thinking of and seen debates about. With me it went the other way round, the more I thought of them and the words of those who advocated them, the less I liked the idea. However it's possible there was miscommunication with those particular people, be it a problem on my end, theirs, or both. Maybe I'd understand the arguments better if someone else had explained in their way, like it happened with you. I'm always interested to hear new points of view, they've expanded my views as well.
My issue isn't so much being against the warnings, but against being obligated to use them, and it further has to do with social circles I frankly find overly sensitive (just to be clear, I'm an even less fan of the overly insensitive). So I don't mind them as an option, but I do as a must.
nice
Very naive and idealistic point of view to say the least.
If anything I believe this way of thinking expands our views, as it allows us to understand opposing points. thus making us more experienced and knowledgeable, which is pretty much opposite from naive. I also view idealism as a good thing because I feel it's important for conscience and depth; if not completely (because material aspects are part of our world too) then at least as something I'd put above materialism as I find it a morally and metnally better choice.
1:46 "Show me your War Face"
You win comedy
YOU GOT A WAR FACE?!
AAAAAAAAHHH! THAT'S A WAR FACE! NOW LET ME SEE YOURS!
is it bad i just thought of the fob song... yeah it is
"You don't scare me....work on it!"
HYEEAAAAAAAGHH
Recently I've been caused to reflect on this book. Fortunate to have read this fairly young and has been a touchstone through my life. Orwell was trying to share our human nature with us, and to see trends in culture not so much for what they are now, but what they may become. To see dangerous precedents being set.
Personally I'm guilty of watching a lot of RUclips content, some verging on hateful. I got thinking about the 2 minutes of hate from 1984 and saw a bit of a parallel to my own present day existence.
Power is never shared.
This isnt a movie, its a prophecy come true.
It was based off what was happening back when it was first written, we’re just witnessing history repeating itself
Google yuri bezmenov, listen and learn
Say it ain't so Glenn
Read the book dude
it is not a prophecy, it was reflection of current times
this is your brain on cable news
Being taught 1984 at school was always hilariously ironic to me.
Interesting, i never learned about dystopias in school, there might be a reason for that. I live in Germany.
YONDU POPPINS I learned animal farm instead. Wish I was taught 1984, much more interesting book
@@michaelcain721 it really is an amazing book, but lessons take the fun out of everything
Honestly creepy if you think about it.
@@wasmachichhier9455 Germany never had a dystopia that's why....
Rest In Peace John Hurt 1940 - 2017
A Guy Who Played As Winston Smith In 1984 Movie
This scene really captivates me with how mindless they act. It really strikes the fear of groupthink into my heart and makes me want to be sure to have my own opinions.
Doesn't everything bad comes down to fear?
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
What a mad world.
It's the concept expressed on this shot: the good one (Goldstein) is considered the bad one.
Staying apart so we can be closer together
@@ngs4917 man is woman, boy is girl
DIEversity is strength
@@syrenematin4676 Well that's more of a metaphor
Westerners think Big Brother is in the East, Easterners think Big Brother is in the US Congress, but in fact Big Brother is everywhere.
literally 1984
Omega and alpha, everything and nothing.
I'm Big Brother
where's the biggest brother
@@auugh43546whichever one an individual is personally afraid to fight against, is the biggest for him.
This is just Twitter without the internet
0:08 -- even when I saw the movie for the very first time, I think I somehow knew, "That is Julia." In fact, all the principal parts were extremely well cast.
winston: underselling
julia: throws a shoe
no wonder they got caught
This should be mandatory to watch in high school
Eisen Chao I guess we could always burn it?
Eisen Chao don’t you mean German nationalist socialist?
....most high schools read the book
@@sonoftheway3528 it was 45 years ago.
The book is normally a mandatory read or on the syllabus in English Literature, at least in my day. It may have been removed along with Animal Farm so people don't understand what they're facing anymore...
We're there.
its definitely the start , you can almost smell it
We are actually living through this right now.
uh oh, i guess someone didn't even read the book and is now *trying* to seem smart on the internet by opinating about it
Ricardo Pereira 1984 is about the people I disagree with, when Orwell wrote the book he was thinking from my viewpoint.
he just got the year wrong
Ricardo Pereira, uh oh, someone doesn’t realize that people can be well informed and disagree.
@Christian Lopez not the same people who vaporize you for commiting thought crimes
0:41 look at his sad and disappointed face :(
Twitter: I must say that I'm a huge fan
“1984 is when twitter”-george orwellian
I didn't know Reddit and Twitter existed back in 1984.
That's why I only post on the pol board on 4chan
Literally Seattle right now.
Protest is Hate, Justice is Injustice, Military are Police.
@@NotCthulhu when the 7th grader learns about philosophy in his social studies class
@@NotCthulhu dumb!
Orwell was a socialist
@@NotCthulhu
Hahahaha. The left can't meme! The
“The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in.”
Terrifyingly appropriate.
It's not Left vs Right anymore: it's authority vs liberty; it's individualism vs collectivism; most of all, it's a battle between the two methods by which we ultimately resolve any dispute: talk or violence. I hope everyone who reads this picks the first one. I hope everyone who'd rather shut down the first one via the second or in order to initiate the second (for whatever reason) seriously thinks about their reasons. Because if you're doing it for what you genuinely believe are moral reasons, then I can only say that in your desperation to achieve 'rightness' you're destroying it for yourself and everyone else.
@Poltiticslogicallyreformed. Pure ideology
@Poltiticslogicallyreformed. This is complete BS. The right is much less accepting of new ideas, but the left is very accepting of new ideas, but can't tolerate old ideas, even if they make sense. Two sides of the same coin. One is too progressive to the point where old things that work fine are not tolerated, but new ideas, no matter how much sense they make, are adopted, and one is too conservative to the point that even new, better ideas are not preferable to old ideas that don't work anymore. Please stop making this about left vs right, it's exactly what the facists and communists want. We should all unite against authoritarianism.
It’s not even left and right at some point, it’s circular. You get far enough right or far enough left and you’re left with the exact same ideology. Which is to subject and control the masses under the guise of “unity.” People need to abandon the left/right mindset and think for themselves as individuals and be able to deal with someone having a differing opinion. It’s the only way to escape a very bleak outcome
@@floater7082: First and most important rule of polite discussion to invite the free-flow of idea’s is: DO NOT BEGIN YOUR STATEMENT BY INSULTING THE OTHER PERSON.
@@andrewbowers_ Ok. I will remember this.
Big Brother is so confident in its control that they can play an articulate and factual deconstruction of their entire system and people will refuse to listen to it.
Not that people refuse to listen to it, it's that people are too lazy
By a very wide margin, the most profoundly depressing book I’ve ever read. I literally almost could not finish it, and took a couple of days to shake off its spell. Those last chapters, in particular, are brutal. Of course, being susceptible to depression to begin with doesn’t help… lulz.
Stay away from "Lolita", by Vladimir Nabokov then.
Yeah, I'd have to agree. I had a few sleepless nights after reading it. More horrifying than any horror movie or novel, at least to me.
A late response but I sadly have to agree. I finished reading it during work and I had to listen to some more positive things to shake it off. It is still lingering, the fear of the fragility of humanity and if we don't be careful the future of our species can be controlled by those who are apart of us.
How many fingers, Winston?
@@bigbrainsupreme8106 "I don't know, I'm not a biologist"
So cool that I get to live in a movie!
Where do you live, North Korea? xD
@@maximebernatchez1855 worse. The US
@@maximebernatchez1855 not funny
@dihvocfoscocudvyvdd reading is for nerds!
@dihvocfoscocudvyvdd movies are for nerds also
"--hold on, let's listen to what he's saying"
We live in 1984 with pigs always tapping our computers and phones
This is now every Media Company and Social Media now. 1984 Is Real.
Wait... 1984 isn't a critic of capitalism/big business... It's a critic of Stalinism.
George Orwell was a democratic socialist who critiqued against totalitarian regimes
@@samve_000 "George Orwell was a democratic socialist"
Lol no
@@CopeAndSeeth I'm sorry to burst your bubble like that, but yes
he was against Stalin and this movie is about USSR they banned int in USSR.
@@samve_000 lad. Your the one who needs your bubble burst.
The comments section is fun to read.
You got that right.
TRAITOR
The comments section and the video are indistinguishable
Fence sitter.
Ceo of missing the point in comment section form
How can this movie look so good? It's from 1984 and looks better than some movies I've seen from 1995 - 2003
Well, it helps that it's masterfully transferred from one of the prints which has the bleach bypass as used by Deakins. :) The recent Criterion has a transfer by Deakins himself, but doesn't have the bluish-grey tint used in the prints.
Filmed on film instead of digital, with no CGI as well. Don't let the film companies and paid reviewers try to misinform you. We've not yet replicated the fidelity of film, and CGI can range from dreadful to passable depending on budget. Meanwhile high quality film and a great soundtrack with real actors based on a chilling book/screenplay cannot be matched.
Literally 1984.
It's almost the same in Turkey now. Only differance is that (Big Brother) Erdogan's party AKP (Ingsoc) call it "Paralel" instead of Goldstein. And party supporters always believe what Erdogan says even if there is contradiction in terms everytime. It is really madness. God help us.
IT REALLY IS NOW ISN'T IT
Come on, it can’t be that ba- *reads book*
Oh. Oh no.
Your an idiot .why do you think his people helped him when he needed them (the missed coup d'état) because his a good president . If he was a bad one they would never help
Him
I am living in turkey he is right
0:47 The entire class when the one kid mentions the homework the teacher forgot about
Underrated comment lol