Stop reading into what Walter Vieth said, he simply was saying what he understood through his own studies when the end of the 6000 yrs was. He did not say Jesus was coming in 2027 , only that it was possible. Its possible that Jesus could come in any year here on out. Jesus says he will come at a time we dont expect him to but we must watch and wait and in the meantime spread the gospel. Stop wasting your time causing division on what was said by Walter and preach the gospel to the world .
Thanks for this message. I was also one who listened to Walther Veith's message. One argument I was given, was that the translation referring to the day and hour, actually stated that only God will make known the hour and that instead of saying no man knowest the hour, but only God, we are supposed to read it as stating, no man will make known but only the Father will make known the hour. But this message clears it up so beautifully. My heart is broken today, as I was following Walther for years, but from the time I discovered the truth about the trinity doctrine, I have discovered that men like him, with a pretense of knowledge, are changing words and giving it other meanings, and preach things not ordained by God. Thus men in darkness. O brothers and sisters, we should guard against these things and pray for each other, so we do not fall for these deceptions of Satan. He is very cunning and one can be caught up by something if we let our feelings take hold, instead of letting God's Word alone speak to our hearts. God bless this ministry.
Praise God for His Blessings. You have shown discernment. One of the interesting statements from this Berean Talk is from Ellen White. She says about time setting that we are to "seek not to obtain a revival on any such grounds". How many times have you seen church revivals and prophecy meetings called based on the end of time. These meetings promote fear and doom, and focus on self being right. Sure, we need to be right with the Lord. We also need to work in the Lord's vineyard. In my opinion, this is the great opportunity that is missed. Our commission is to spread the Gospel message, to love and care for our brothers and sisters. What is the Gospel message? John 3:16. God's message contains the greatest testament of love to His creation. It's not just about love for self and the end of the world. It's about love for others as well as yourself. JOY...(using the letters of the word JOY) ..LOVE Jesus first LOVE Youself last and LOVE Others in between too. The end is a surety. Spreading the Gospel message is a task. There are so many out there who are in great need of knowing a Loving caring and forgiving God and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ who has redeemed us and given us the greatest gift ever, the gift of eternal life. So I praise God for His Blessings upon you, in showing you the Truth and you accepting this Truth. It makes my heart glad. Praise God for His Blessings upon these Berean Talks. I'm learning so much. Also, my thoughts on different things are being confirmed. I thank God for His Blessings in discernment. There are so many preachers out there who are in great need of His discernment. Be of good courage as you share the great Gospel message.
Matthew 17 reveal when Jesus second coming will take place 2 prophets = 200 + 3 disciples + 1 our Lord Jesus = 2031 after 6 He was transfigured showing them his second coming is cristal clear there
There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit-those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life in Christ.-Evangelism, 615. 7ABC 441.9.
Agreed...EGW confirms that Christ was crucified in the spring of 31 AD. The more pressing inquiry would be 'When does Christ casts the censor into the earth' [Rev 8:5- This is when Jesus leaves the sanctuary]. And the other precursor 'When is the pouring out of the spirit of Elijah?' [latter rain] And lastly, and in conjunction, 'When is the judgement of the ordained church?' [Rev 11:1 and Eze 9:6]...all key points in time. Nonetheless, in our meantime we are to spiritually prepare ourselves to be instruments for God.
In 1844, 22 Oct Christ went into the MHP on the day of atonement...if we are living in the day of atonement, when does the high priest stand Up? At the end of that day. There's a third day prophecy, Jesus raising the temple on the third day .... Temple being his body or people and third day being the third millenium since his death. This would bring the year 2031. It would then conclude that when Jesus said it is finished in heaven would be at the end of the day of atonement in the year 2031, closing the heavenly sanctuary, just like he did in closing the earthly sanctuary in 31AD. Interesting fact here... The parallels are striking. Jesus died on Passover, 2000 years from that time would take you to 2031. Inside 2000 years are 40 jubiles. This is parallel to the exodus story, delivered from Egypt, 40 years in the wilderness and then entering the promised land.
The number 27 came into my heart and thoughts years ago and I wasn't sure why but it felt important, I always thought it had something to due with my exit from this world. More and more especially since Christ had called me back from my wandering ways I feel it in my bones that if not then, than soon he is returning.
Brethren, it is important to know where we are in the stream of time but let's not forget that our individual end, I.e death, might come any second before then or then. Therefore let's not be too caught up on the exact timing but let's be 4eady from moment to moment.God blessed you all
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness." While we are not to know the hour of our Lord's return, we may know when it is near. "Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober." 1 Thessalonians 5:4-6. DA 235.3
The third vision,Daniel 8:14, was fulfilled in 1844, the fourth vision for the latter days (Daniel 10:14) is yet to be fulfilled, the epilogue (chapter 12) is from the Sunday Law, Daniel 11:45 till Michel stands up, Daniel 12:1.
God can give anyone a message at anytime. He is God. It's normal for a believer to figure out important issues. What if God does come in 2027. Should we not tell the world now.
Those looking for an early rapture at the start of the Seven Years of Tribulation may keep pushing it forward until the Great Tribulation begins, and I hope they are not overcome with depression. Be a Good Boy Scout: "BE PREPARED." We may have everything right. Be flexible so you don't break!
I was falsely excited too when i watched pastor Veith's 2027 sermon last year; it was presented in such a convincing way. He was wrong in assuming that the 4000y statements were definite time and not an approximation and also disregarding the principle that the thirds angel message is not depended on time.
If Jesus was to come in 2027, then the Sunday Law should start in 2024, we should use this clue to prepare for this difficult test,for those of us who have accepted Jesus is time to leave the cities, for the not buy not sell time is at hand.
This in unwatchable! Literally talking about ambiguity in a way that no man should have to listen to! What was your goal in making this, if it was turning people away from SDA, you nailed it! Shalom
We are welcome to know the prophetic season in which we are living, the Sunday Law needs to take place before Jesus’ second coming. "The interest in Daniel and the Revelation is to continue as long as probationary time shall last. God used the author of this book as a channel through which to communicate light to direct minds to the truth. Shall we not appreciate this light, which points us to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, our King? - {1MR 63.1}" Let’s read and study the 12th chapter of Daniel it’s a warning we all need to understand before the time of the end. Manuscript Releases 15:228 (1903).
Thus was displayed the last of those signs of his coming, concerning which Jesus bade his disciples, "When ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." GC88 334.2
When ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." Matthew 24:3, 33, 42-51. One saying of the Saviour must not be made to destroy another. Though no man knoweth the day nor the hour of his coming, we are instructed and required to know when it is near. We are further taught that to disregard his warning, and refuse or neglect to know when his advent is near, will be as fatal for us, as it was for those who lived in the days of Noah not to know when the flood was coming. GC88 370.2
I was sent to the Philippines for three years and was shown 2027 in two different prophecies to be the final year, and the Seventh biblical month is the ingathering of the Saints. I have a time chart and scriptures that explain the timeline of 1,260, 1,290, and 1,335 in Daniel 12. Also, how the 2300 days fit into these 2520 days in a Seven Years and will end on the very last day Jesus in the the Most Holy when Satan will be the final scapegoat. How do I contact you, folks? The Lord sent me there just before the lockdown, where I lived on top of a mountain in a deep jungle with an Adventist family. The last 7th 1,000 years is not a Jubilee. It is the 7th Land Sabbath when all the Earth will not be planted or harvested. After the 7th 1,000-year Sabbath Land Rest comes the Jubilee. When True Israel is returned to the Promised Land on the New Earth. Also, Ezekiel 48 shows land divided up by tribe on the new Earth.
People may try and set time for Jesus' return, but don't forget what Jesus said in Matt.24:22 and Romans 9:28, that if those days are not shortened or cut short, no flesh will be left alive (His people) He will cut it short in righteousness. Amen.
Satan does not want people to know that the end is near. 6000 years and 1000 years is all in the Bible. It should be studied. Nothing wrong with knowing when the second coming of Christ.
According to the Apostle Peter, the Creation account written by Moses almost 1,000 years after the flood, is the first prophecy given in the Bible. See 2 Peter 3. A Day representing 1,000 years. shalom.
If satan is given 6000 years to temp man, and 6000 years will end on 2027, then 2027 might be the start of the close of probation. its when Jesus will say let the righteous be righteous let the wicked be wicked...
It’s kinda interesting if you do the 7000year math in relationship to the Jubilee year cycle though how they link up pretty well. Anyway 2027 is not really that far if it’s true it will occur if not it simply will not either way I think the main takeaway from Veith and the others is about getting our lives in sync with heaven
We MUST be born again. You are born again when you are like Jesus. Then you are sinless 1 John 2: 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. We must be born again! Then Jesus has baptized you with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit do not let you sin anymore!!! To become born again you have to repent and ask Jesus forgiveness for your sins or ask Jesus in your heart! A really born again Christian has no future sins!! He is perfect, righteous and the light of the world. Please study : 1 John 3, Romans 6:6, Romans 8, Gal 5, Eph 4 and Titus 2:14
There is a colossal difference between time setting the day & hour, and the time of Christ's Second Advent. For example there is a difference between my saying that i will visit you next week; and i will visit you next week on Tuesday at 10:00 am. Next week is indefinite, while Tuesday 10:00 am is in the definitive. Did Veith say His coming is in the definitive - No.... Please people, engage your intellect before you make unsound conclusions Another thing is that the presenters here sound very juvenile in doctrinal issues. They need to exegete all of the doctrinal patterns and types / symbolisms given in the Bible - numerology (sixes, sevens, eights, tens , twelves, twenty fours, forty, etc) jubilee, time reckoning, chronology, millenia, etc. The presenters need to wholistically look at all these things and then give a well balanced analysis / conclusion. Any Jack n Jill can say what these sceptical presenters are alluding to. Their efforts can only achieve one thing only - give people a false sense of security, and that's exactly what Satan desires to achieve here especially at this stage of the earth's history.This message is God - given to prepare His people for the Second Coming of Christ, and there is nothing to lose if we all anticipate this in 2027 - in fact we win by living sanctified lives in anticipation of His Advent. The other reason why God has unveiled this timeline is a way of shaking pretenders out of His true Church - those who won't embrace this message are children of darkness and thus will be sifted out of the 144000 number that is being sealed right now and made ready to meet Christ sooner than the world anticipates - Allellujah ! All glory to our Lord and Saviour who has made sure that He does not catch His people unawares. Believe me this message will not result in despondence but will solidify the position of those who are genuinely waiting for Christ's Second Coming - only God's people will understand but the wicked will not understand this awakening message... We will preach this 6,000 year timeline with all our might and enthusiasm until Christ appears in 2027, if not God will tell us then why Christ did not come in 2027, and just like in 1844 we will follow the LORD's injunctions then... All this is not in vain - our God is in control......
I don't believe in those messages where they try to place a time for the return of Jesus, but you make a mistake when saying that sister White reprehens time she refers to any kind of time.
UD se equivoca en creer esa falsedad del 2031. UD asegura que cuando los testimonios hablan de no poner tiempos o fechas lo hace en el contexto histórico de personas usando la profecía de los 2300 días y que a eso se refiere la hermana White en todas las citas donde ella condena el poner tiempos para la venida de Jesús. Esto una mentira que el adversario de las almas le ha hecho creer a UD y a todos esos que siguen a Víctor Sanvicens. Hablan del contexto histórico, pero no hacen caso al contexto inmediato en los mismos testimonios que les hablan claro de las consecuencias en poner fechas. Y cometen el error de tratar de refutar textos claros usando otros textos abstractos y no tan claros, y al final acaban confundidos
@@MartinSmith-vk2uw allí es donde está el problema con el asunto de los seis mil años, uds no pueden comprobar si los cuatro mil años se cumplieron cuando Cristo nació, o si fue en su bautizmo o si fue en su crucifixion, solo porque les "parezca" que la cita de la crucifixion es la que deben seguir, de una cita sola no pueden sacar una idea, deben leer todas las citas referentes y entonces llegar a una conclusión, al haber tantas citas que ponen los cuatro mil años en distintos momentos de la vida Cristo es obvio que es un aproximado un redondeó. Lo de la agenda 2030, es una señal más que Cristo está a las puertas. Yo e mirando como 50 videos de Sanvicens no le exagero. Mire los 32 de "hay fecha para la venida de Cristo?" También los de "pero el día y la hora nadie lo sabe" y otros más. Todos cuajados de errores y mentiras, me he visto tentado a hacer un vídeo pero siempre ando ocupado y además no tengo experiencia haciendo videos todos su puntos son refutables. Se que sueno duro pero es que este asunto es peligroso. La hermana White dice que Dios no ha enviado a estos que predican de fechas para la venida de Cristo, también dice que los que se empecinan en esta prática hacen la obra del enemigo de Dios.
Nothing new. Excite with searching or hearing a set year instead of recognizing we dont proclaim the 3rd angel's message, and then proclaim it! This, if EGW is true about the flexibility of the time of Jesus coming back, this delays even more the return: setting a year delays Christ's return!I have often heard: let me have smthg from my pension scheme before Jesus comes back. Now in Germany, where the density of SDA is quite high for an european land, alarming videos are coming up, that the pension system will collapse 2027. Maybe this will give SDAs to think about.
I think Walter Veiths fleshing out of Babylonian powers ,Mason's , pagan God's and how they are reflected in today's world are informative.The thing is God's people have always had to function in Babylon like Daniel, Moses, Joseph, and others.The were schooled in these powers arts of politic, war, agriculture, economics, and like Moses the dark arts of Egyptian magic! Paul was a man of Roman politics,he had relationships with the. Priests(he was a tentmaker and had dealings in procuring animal skins from sacrifical offerings.We have to be in Babylon ,but at the same time we have to come out of Babylon! We shouldn't get exited about these things because as was stated " there is nothing new under the sun".Like you the Church has tried to bring Mr. Veith to task,as you can sadly see the confusion he brings, affecting even mature S.D.A.'s into a state of excitement that can do harm in the fog of battle!That's why the unity Ellen. G White stressed for the end times was so important.Adventists incur much damage amongst themselves from lack of a better term, "friendly fire" Happy Sabbath!
The cosmic week theory does not hold. The Masoretic Jews changed the chronology in Genesis, but the Septuagint remains sound and also agrees with the 77 generations Luke gives for the genealogy of JESUS. The earth is now about 7700 years old. Some will use Ellen White to try to prove 6,000 years, but as her son testified in a statement that she signed, her chronology and other historical information is not to be taken as inspired.
@@mbogoalex7493 “Regarding Mother's writings and their use as authority on points of history and chronology, Mother has never wished our brethren to treat them as authority regarding the details of history or historical dates” (W.C. White to W.W. Eastman, 11/4/1912).
You cast doubt on inspiration. And to somehow substantiate it with a statement by her uninspired son? Really? EGW states 6000 yrs more than once. I believe it. I do not question it. It is chronologically confirmed that the Earth was created in 4004 BC. Your 7700 yrs is miserably errant.
So the advice is " Dont look for the coming of the Lord and dont get excited. " Casually directly contradicting the bible when Jesus says ( Ill paraphrase ) " Watch" and " Rejoice because your redemption draws near " Yeah thats more then enough evidence for me to stay away from you guys
I can give you a timeframe (within 2 1/2 years) when rapture comes. When you do a deep study of the timing of rapture, scripture shows that it takes place in a period of time called the latter days. (The latter days is a 7-year period that lies on the latter times timeline, aka the end times). Each of these timelines are marked by the Shemitah (7-yr. cycles), which begin and end with certain events told in scripture. For instance, the time past timeline began when Mankind sinned (Elul 29), which began time, and ends when another event takes place, ushering in the last days. The event that ended the time past timeline is when Jesus turned 30 years of age, so to lawfully teach and preach the gospel throughout Israel (Num. 4). Note: the time of when Jesus was born (3 BC), to when He was baptized (being about, not quite 30; AD 27), until He turned 30 (AD 28 Tishri 1) was still the time past timeline. In other words, Jesus turning 30 ushered in the last days timeline. The event that ends the last days timeline is when the church collectively comes to believe another gospel, which is not another, to become an apostate church, and deceives many to think they are something they're not...rapture ready; that when the church comes to the full, then the latter times timeline begins. (Scripture proves this event occurred on Sept. 29, 2008 Elul 29, which then at sunset of that Elul 29 (which begins Tishri 1) the latter timeline began; Sept. 30, 2008 Tishri 1). So we've been living in the end times since Sept. 30, 2008 Tishri 1, which began at sunset of Elul 29. According to scripture, when the church comes to the full to become an apostate church we are then given 14 years until the last seven years begin called the latter days, which begins in the fall of 2024 - 2031, which has three phases. Phase 1: After the latter days begin (at sunset of Oct. 2, 2024 Elul 29, which begins Oct. 3 Tishri 1) He shall pour out His Spirit once again called the Latter Rain. (Though I cannot be dogmatic, scripture supports the Latter Rain could fall on June 1, 2025 Pentecost), which is 8 months after the latter days begin. Note: the Latter Rain, which shall fall for 3 1/2 years, is His time of correction and conviction to the apostate church and to the secular world. This Rain will first fall upon the apostate church, and all that come out of it, to receive the truth of the gospel, they shall go forth in the power of His Spirit, and shall be slain for the word of God (His Law) and for the testimony which they held. These are the dead in Christ of that tribulation, which is days, not years in length. When the dead in Christ rise and stand on their feet, then we which are alive and remain (His faithful that have, do, and teach the truth, which are few in number, and are kept from that tribulation) shall be caught up together with them (the dead in Christ now risen) in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. End of Phase 1. After that tribulation and rapture then comes great tribulation wherein a great multitude are seen in heaven, having made their robes white in the blood of the Lamb, which were killed like those in that tribulation before them. End of Phase 2. Immediately after the tribulation of those days (great tribulation of the latter days) then comes His wrath. Just prior to His wrath Ezekiel's War occurs (Ezek. 38: 8,16), and then the remnant Jews shall confess and repent to be saved, and then comes His wrath upon the ungodly and the disobedient children, followed by the Second Coming of Christ with the holy angels and saints to set up the Millennial Kingdom of Christ on earth. Lastly, given the Latter Rain begins on June 1, 2025 Pentecost, and given this Rain falls for 3 1/2 years (Dec. 2028), and given tribulation, rapture, and subsequent great tribulation all take place during the time of the Latter Rain (within the latter days) then rapture should occur at twilight evening after sunset of Elul 29/Tishri 1 of 2025, 2026, or 2027, as the positional timing of rapture is: post-trib.-pre-great-trib.-pre-wrath, during the Latter Rain. God is: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, the Godhead, and these Three are one. Come Lord Jesus, let it Rain!!
Use this channel to preach the gospel instead of looking for fault with bible students and their understanding. You not better than them. Don't fool yourselves.
Stop reading into what Walter Vieth said, he simply was saying what he understood through his own studies when the end of the 6000 yrs was. He did not say Jesus was coming in 2027 , only that it was possible. Its possible that Jesus could come in any year here on out. Jesus says he will come at a time we dont expect him to but we must watch and wait and in the meantime spread the gospel. Stop wasting your time causing division on what was said by Walter and preach the gospel to the world .
"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come." Amen
Thanks for this message. I was also one who listened to Walther Veith's message. One argument I was given, was that the translation referring to the day and hour, actually stated that only God will make known the hour and that instead of saying no man knowest the hour, but only God, we are supposed to read it as stating, no man will make known but only the Father will make known the hour. But this message clears it up so beautifully. My heart is broken today, as I was following Walther for years, but from the time I discovered the truth about the trinity doctrine, I have discovered that men like him, with a pretense of knowledge, are changing words and giving it other meanings, and preach things not ordained by God. Thus men in darkness. O brothers and sisters, we should guard against these things and pray for each other, so we do not fall for these deceptions of Satan. He is very cunning and one can be caught up by something if we let our feelings take hold, instead of letting God's Word alone speak to our hearts. God bless this ministry.
Praise God for His Blessings. You have shown discernment. One of the interesting statements from this Berean Talk is from Ellen White. She says about time setting that we are to "seek not to obtain a revival on any such grounds". How many times have you seen church revivals and prophecy meetings called based on the end of time. These meetings promote fear and doom, and focus on self being right. Sure, we need to be right with the Lord. We also need to work in the Lord's vineyard. In my opinion, this is the great opportunity that is missed. Our commission is to spread the Gospel message, to love and care for our brothers and sisters. What is the Gospel message? John 3:16. God's message contains the greatest testament of love to His creation. It's not just about love for self and the end of the world. It's about love for others as well as yourself. JOY...(using the letters of the word JOY) ..LOVE Jesus first LOVE Youself last and LOVE Others in between too. The end is a surety. Spreading the Gospel message is a task. There are so many out there who are in great need of knowing a Loving caring and forgiving God and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ who has redeemed us and given us the greatest gift ever, the gift of eternal life.
So I praise God for His Blessings upon you, in showing you the Truth and you accepting this Truth. It makes my heart glad.
Praise God for His Blessings upon these Berean Talks. I'm learning so much. Also, my thoughts on different things are being confirmed. I thank God for His Blessings in discernment. There are so many preachers out there who are in great need of His discernment.
Be of good courage as you share the great Gospel message.
Matthew 17 reveal when Jesus second coming will take place 2 prophets = 200 + 3 disciples + 1 our Lord Jesus = 2031 after 6 He was transfigured showing them his second coming is cristal clear there
I pray for Dr Veith. I think he will see the Truth about the Father and Son. I pray it's soon. 🙏
There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit-those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life in Christ.-Evangelism, 615. 7ABC 441.9.
@@saultorrez3019 You're not God, so stop saying you know when he will return.
2031 is the end of 6,000 years, according to the types and antitypes of Bible Chronology. Blessings and shalom. Questions invited.
Agreed...EGW confirms that Christ was crucified in the spring of 31 AD. The more pressing inquiry would be 'When does Christ casts the censor into the earth' [Rev 8:5- This is when Jesus leaves the sanctuary]. And the other precursor 'When is the pouring out of the spirit of Elijah?' [latter rain] And lastly, and in conjunction, 'When is the judgement of the ordained church?' [Rev 11:1 and Eze 9:6]...all key points in time.
Nonetheless, in our meantime we are to spiritually prepare ourselves to be instruments for God.
Nobody knows you're not God
In 1844, 22 Oct Christ went into the MHP on the day of atonement...if we are living in the day of atonement, when does the high priest stand Up? At the end of that day.
There's a third day prophecy, Jesus raising the temple on the third day .... Temple being his body or people and third day being the third millenium since his death. This would bring the year 2031. It would then conclude that when Jesus said it is finished in heaven would be at the end of the day of atonement in the year 2031, closing the heavenly sanctuary, just like he did in closing the earthly sanctuary in 31AD.
Interesting fact here... The parallels are striking.
Jesus died on Passover, 2000 years from that time would take you to 2031. Inside 2000 years are 40 jubiles. This is parallel to the exodus story, delivered from Egypt, 40 years in the wilderness and then entering the promised land.
Be blessed brethren
The number 27 came into my heart and thoughts years ago and I wasn't sure why but it felt important, I always thought it had something to due with my exit from this world. More and more especially since Christ had called me back from my wandering ways I feel it in my bones that if not then, than soon he is returning.
Brethren, it is important to know where we are in the stream of time but let's not forget that our individual end, I.e death, might come any second before then or then. Therefore let's not be too caught up on the exact timing but let's be 4eady from moment to moment.God blessed you all
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness." While we are not to know the hour of our Lord's return, we may know when it is near. "Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober." 1 Thessalonians 5:4-6. DA 235.3
The third vision,Daniel 8:14, was fulfilled in 1844, the fourth vision for the latter days (Daniel 10:14) is yet to be fulfilled, the epilogue (chapter 12) is from the Sunday Law, Daniel 11:45 till Michel stands up, Daniel 12:1.
God can give anyone a message at anytime. He is God. It's normal for a believer to figure out important issues. What if God does come in 2027. Should we not tell the world now.
Those looking for an early rapture at the start of the Seven Years of Tribulation may keep pushing it forward until the Great Tribulation begins, and I hope they are not overcome with depression. Be a Good Boy Scout: "BE PREPARED." We may have everything right. Be flexible so you don't break!
Sunday law will be the nail on the head i.e when the Sunday law is enforced we can be sure his coming is in a few years.
I was falsely excited too when i watched pastor Veith's 2027 sermon last year; it was presented in such a convincing way. He was wrong in assuming that the 4000y statements were definite time and not an approximation and also disregarding the principle that the thirds angel message is not depended on time.
He never set a time I watched that video, I don't get how people got the idea he was setting time.
@@timeoftheend7156exactly, these people who are falsely accusing Veith are not honest......
If Jesus was to come in 2027, then the Sunday Law should start in 2024, we should use this clue to prepare for this difficult test,for those of us who have accepted Jesus is time to leave the cities, for the not buy not sell time is at hand.
ELLEN WHITE says we will never have a message hang on time.
This in unwatchable! Literally talking about ambiguity in a way that no man should have to listen to! What was your goal in making this, if it was turning people away from SDA, you nailed it!
Shalom
We are welcome to know the prophetic season in which we are living, the Sunday Law needs to take place before Jesus’ second coming.
"The interest in Daniel and the Revelation is to continue as long as probationary time shall last. God used the author of this book as a channel through which to communicate light to direct minds to the truth. Shall we not appreciate this light, which points us to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, our King? - {1MR 63.1}"
Let’s read and study the 12th chapter of Daniel it’s a warning we all need to understand before the time of the end. Manuscript Releases 15:228 (1903).
Revelation 22:20 He which testified those things said. Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Lord Christ Yeshua is our SALVATION and he is coming back soon 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for this message .May God bless you
Thus was displayed the last of those signs of his coming, concerning which Jesus bade his disciples, "When ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." GC88 334.2
When ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." Matthew 24:3, 33, 42-51. One saying of the Saviour must not be made to destroy another. Though no man knoweth the day nor the hour of his coming, we are instructed and required to know when it is near. We are further taught that to disregard his warning, and refuse or neglect to know when his advent is near, will be as fatal for us, as it was for those who lived in the days of Noah not to know when the flood was coming. GC88 370.2
Jesus says pray that your flight be not in the winter or on the Sabbath day. This indicates time is subject to us too and so is not predetermined.
Or does it mean more so, as to where you live on earth. You need to consider the seasons and the northern/southern hemispheres.
the sooner the better Titus 2:13
How I pray that prof Walter Veith is right we live in a evil world
I was sent to the Philippines for three years and was shown 2027 in two different prophecies to be the final year, and the Seventh biblical month is the ingathering of the Saints. I have a time chart and scriptures that explain the timeline of 1,260, 1,290, and 1,335 in Daniel 12. Also, how the 2300 days fit into these 2520 days in a Seven Years and will end on the very last day Jesus in the the Most Holy when Satan will be the final scapegoat.
How do I contact you, folks? The Lord sent me there just before the lockdown, where I lived on top of a mountain in a deep jungle with an Adventist family. The last 7th 1,000 years is not a Jubilee. It is the 7th Land Sabbath when all the Earth will not be planted or harvested. After the 7th 1,000-year Sabbath Land Rest comes the Jubilee. When True Israel is returned to the Promised Land on the New Earth. Also, Ezekiel 48 shows land divided up by tribe on the new Earth.
People may try and set time for Jesus' return, but don't forget what Jesus said in Matt.24:22 and Romans 9:28, that if those days are not shortened or cut short, no flesh will be left alive (His people) He will cut it short in righteousness. Amen.
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Satan does not want people to know that the end is near. 6000 years and 1000 years is all in the Bible. It should be studied. Nothing wrong with knowing when the second coming of Christ.
According to the Apostle Peter, the Creation account written by Moses almost 1,000 years after the flood, is the first prophecy given in the Bible. See 2 Peter 3. A Day representing 1,000 years. shalom.
Christ said in Matthew chapter 24 you don't know the date or hour of my return,even I don't know.
This is great 👍 all thanks to Jehovah
If satan is given 6000 years to temp man, and 6000 years will end on 2027, then 2027 might be the start of the close of probation. its when Jesus will say let the righteous be righteous let the wicked be wicked...
It’s kinda interesting if you do the 7000year math in relationship to the Jubilee year cycle though how they link up pretty well. Anyway 2027 is not really that far if it’s true it will occur if not it simply will not either way I think the main takeaway from Veith and the others is about getting our lives in sync with heaven
Thank God...Amen🙏🙏🙏
We MUST be born again.
You are born again when you are like Jesus. Then you are sinless
1 John 2:
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
We must be born again!
Then Jesus has baptized you with the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit do not let you sin anymore!!!
To become born again you have to repent and ask Jesus forgiveness for your sins or ask Jesus in your heart!
A really born again Christian has no future sins!! He is perfect, righteous and the light of the world.
Please study : 1 John 3, Romans 6:6, Romans 8, Gal 5, Eph 4 and Titus 2:14
America Babylon will burn. It's not water this time but fire.
There is a colossal difference between time setting the day & hour, and the time of Christ's Second Advent. For example there is a difference between my saying that i will visit you next week; and i will visit you next week on Tuesday at 10:00 am. Next week is indefinite, while Tuesday 10:00 am is in the definitive. Did Veith say His coming is in the definitive - No.... Please people, engage your intellect before you make unsound conclusions
Another thing is that the presenters here sound very juvenile in doctrinal issues. They need to exegete all of the doctrinal patterns and types / symbolisms given in the Bible - numerology (sixes, sevens, eights, tens , twelves, twenty fours, forty, etc) jubilee, time reckoning, chronology, millenia, etc. The presenters need to wholistically look at all these things and then give a well balanced analysis / conclusion. Any Jack n Jill can say what these sceptical presenters are alluding to. Their efforts can only achieve one thing only - give people a false sense of security, and that's exactly what Satan desires to achieve here especially at this stage of the earth's history.This message is God - given to prepare His people for the Second Coming of Christ, and there is nothing to lose if we all anticipate this in 2027 - in fact we win by living sanctified lives in anticipation of His Advent. The other reason why God has unveiled this timeline is a way of shaking pretenders out of His true Church - those who won't embrace this message are children of darkness and thus will be sifted out of the 144000 number that is being sealed right now and made ready to meet Christ sooner than the world anticipates - Allellujah ! All glory to our Lord and Saviour who has made sure that He does not catch His people unawares. Believe me this message will not result in despondence but will solidify the position of those who are genuinely waiting for Christ's Second Coming - only God's people will understand but the wicked will not understand this awakening message... We will preach this 6,000 year timeline with all our might and enthusiasm until Christ appears in 2027, if not God will tell us then why Christ did not come in 2027, and just like in 1844 we will follow the LORD's injunctions then...
All this is not in vain - our God is in control......
6000 years prophecy is only knowing the close of time not telling a definite time of the second appearing of God ...
Isaacs Newton said 2060
The bible said no man no’s the hour that he going to come back ,no even his son so your idea s are wrong and that’s that
The 3.5 year, Great tribulation STARTS NOW!!!
I don't believe in those messages where they try to place a time for the return of Jesus, but you make a mistake when saying that sister White reprehens time she refers to any kind of time.
Maranatha 2031
UD se equivoca en creer esa falsedad del 2031. UD asegura que cuando los testimonios hablan de no poner tiempos o fechas lo hace en el contexto histórico de personas usando la profecía de los 2300 días y que a eso se refiere la hermana White en todas las citas donde ella condena el poner tiempos para la venida de Jesús. Esto una mentira que el adversario de las almas le ha hecho creer a UD y a todos esos que siguen a Víctor Sanvicens. Hablan del contexto histórico, pero no hacen caso al contexto inmediato en los mismos testimonios que les hablan claro de las consecuencias en poner fechas. Y cometen el error de tratar de refutar textos claros usando otros textos abstractos y no tan claros, y al final acaban confundidos
@@timeoftheend7156 Si los seis mil años de pecado no vencieran en el año 2031 y si no existiera la agenda2030 entones yo m retractaria .
@@MartinSmith-vk2uw allí es donde está el problema con el asunto de los seis mil años, uds no pueden comprobar si los cuatro mil años se cumplieron cuando Cristo nació, o si fue en su bautizmo o si fue en su crucifixion, solo porque les "parezca" que la cita de la crucifixion es la que deben seguir, de una cita sola no pueden sacar una idea, deben leer todas las citas referentes y entonces llegar a una conclusión, al haber tantas citas que ponen los cuatro mil años en distintos momentos de la vida Cristo es obvio que es un aproximado un redondeó.
Lo de la agenda 2030, es una señal más que Cristo está a las puertas. Yo e mirando como 50 videos de Sanvicens no le exagero. Mire los 32 de "hay fecha para la venida de Cristo?" También los de "pero el día y la hora nadie lo sabe" y otros más. Todos cuajados de errores y mentiras, me he visto tentado a hacer un vídeo pero siempre ando ocupado y además no tengo experiencia haciendo videos todos su puntos son refutables. Se que sueno duro pero es que este asunto es peligroso. La hermana White dice que Dios no ha enviado a estos que predican de fechas para la venida de Cristo, también dice que los que se empecinan en esta prática hacen la obra del enemigo de Dios.
Its even at the door. Thats a good rough estimate.
Nothing new. Excite with searching or hearing a set year instead of recognizing we dont proclaim the 3rd angel's message, and then proclaim it! This, if EGW is true about the flexibility of the time of Jesus coming back, this delays even more the return: setting a year delays Christ's return!I have often heard: let me have smthg from my pension scheme before Jesus comes back. Now in Germany, where the density of SDA is quite high for an european land, alarming videos are coming up, that the pension system will collapse 2027. Maybe this will give SDAs to think about.
I think Walter Veiths fleshing out of Babylonian powers ,Mason's , pagan God's and how they are reflected in today's world are informative.The thing is God's people have always had to function in Babylon like Daniel, Moses, Joseph, and others.The were schooled in these powers arts of politic, war, agriculture, economics, and like Moses the dark arts of Egyptian magic! Paul was a man of Roman politics,he had relationships with the. Priests(he was a tentmaker and had dealings in procuring animal skins from sacrifical offerings.We have to be in Babylon ,but at the same time we have to come out of Babylon! We shouldn't get exited about these things because as was stated " there is nothing new under the sun".Like you the Church has tried to bring Mr. Veith to task,as you can sadly see the confusion he brings, affecting even mature S.D.A.'s into a state of excitement that can do harm in the fog of battle!That's why the unity Ellen. G White stressed for the end times was so important.Adventists incur much damage amongst themselves from lack of a better term, "friendly fire" Happy Sabbath!
Fall to the second coming is a period of 6,000 years(of sin). Study to show yourself approved.
The cosmic week theory does not hold. The Masoretic Jews changed the chronology in Genesis, but the Septuagint remains sound and also agrees with the 77 generations Luke gives for the genealogy of JESUS. The earth is now about 7700 years old. Some will use Ellen White to try to prove 6,000 years, but as her son testified in a statement that she signed, her chronology and other historical information is not to be taken as inspired.
where is the statement please?
@@mbogoalex7493 “Regarding Mother's writings and their use as authority on points of history and chronology, Mother has never wished our brethren to treat them as authority regarding the details of history or historical dates” (W.C. White to W.W. Eastman, 11/4/1912).
@@BrightBeamsMission Thank You!
You cast doubt on inspiration. And to somehow substantiate it with a statement by her uninspired son? Really? EGW states 6000 yrs more than once. I believe it. I do not question it. It is chronologically confirmed that the Earth was created in 4004 BC. Your 7700 yrs is miserably errant.
@@canadiancontrarian3668 Sr. White signed the statement of her son.
So the advice is " Dont look for the coming of the Lord and dont get excited. " Casually directly contradicting the bible when Jesus says ( Ill paraphrase ) " Watch" and " Rejoice because your redemption draws near "
Yeah thats more then enough evidence for me to stay away from you guys
Nobody but God knows the day, year ECT.
I can give you a timeframe (within 2 1/2 years) when rapture comes. When you do a deep study of the timing of rapture, scripture shows that it takes place in a period of time called the latter days. (The latter days is a 7-year period that lies on the latter times timeline, aka the end times). Each of these timelines are marked by the Shemitah (7-yr. cycles), which begin and end with certain events told in scripture. For instance, the time past timeline began when Mankind sinned (Elul 29), which began time, and ends when another event takes place, ushering in the last days.
The event that ended the time past timeline is when Jesus turned 30 years of age, so to lawfully teach and preach the gospel throughout Israel (Num. 4). Note: the time of when Jesus was born (3 BC), to when He was baptized (being about, not quite 30; AD 27), until He turned 30 (AD 28 Tishri 1) was still the time past timeline. In other words, Jesus turning 30 ushered in the last days timeline.
The event that ends the last days timeline is when the church collectively comes to believe another gospel, which is not another, to become an apostate church, and deceives many to think they are something they're not...rapture ready; that when the church comes to the full, then the latter times timeline begins. (Scripture proves this event occurred on Sept. 29, 2008 Elul 29, which then at sunset of that Elul 29 (which begins Tishri 1) the latter timeline began; Sept. 30, 2008 Tishri 1). So we've been living in the end times since Sept. 30, 2008 Tishri 1, which began at sunset of Elul 29.
According to scripture, when the church comes to the full to become an apostate church we are then given 14 years until the last seven years begin called the latter days, which begins in the fall of 2024 - 2031, which has three phases.
Phase 1: After the latter days begin (at sunset of Oct. 2, 2024 Elul 29, which begins Oct. 3 Tishri 1) He shall pour out His Spirit once again called the Latter Rain. (Though I cannot be dogmatic, scripture supports the Latter Rain could fall on June 1, 2025 Pentecost), which is 8 months after the latter days begin. Note: the Latter Rain, which shall fall for 3 1/2 years, is His time of correction and conviction to the apostate church and to the secular world. This Rain will first fall upon the apostate church, and all that come out of it, to receive the truth of the gospel, they shall go forth in the power of His Spirit, and shall be slain for the word of God (His Law) and for the testimony which they held. These are the dead in Christ of that tribulation, which is days, not years in length. When the dead in Christ rise and stand on their feet, then we which are alive and remain (His faithful that have, do, and teach the truth, which are few in number, and are kept from that tribulation) shall be caught up together with them (the dead in Christ now risen) in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. End of Phase 1.
After that tribulation and rapture then comes great tribulation wherein a great multitude are seen in heaven, having made their robes white in the blood of the Lamb, which were killed like those in that tribulation before them. End of Phase 2.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days (great tribulation of the latter days) then comes His wrath. Just prior to His wrath Ezekiel's War occurs (Ezek. 38: 8,16), and then the remnant Jews shall confess and repent to be saved, and then comes His wrath upon the ungodly and the disobedient children, followed by the Second Coming of Christ with the holy angels and saints to set up the Millennial Kingdom of Christ on earth.
Lastly, given the Latter Rain begins on June 1, 2025 Pentecost, and given this Rain falls for 3 1/2 years (Dec. 2028), and given tribulation, rapture, and subsequent great tribulation all take place during the time of the Latter Rain (within the latter days) then rapture should occur at twilight evening after sunset of Elul 29/Tishri 1 of 2025, 2026, or 2027, as the positional timing of rapture is: post-trib.-pre-great-trib.-pre-wrath, during the Latter Rain.
God is: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, the Godhead, and these Three are one.
Come Lord Jesus, let it Rain!!
2300 years were prophetic. Prophetic of what? 2x3=6 3x2=6. Questions invited.
He coming when you all stop guessing lol
Use this channel to preach the gospel instead of looking for fault with bible students and their understanding. You not better than them. Don't fool yourselves.
Autum 2027
You "dont know", But I know!!! Jesus told me! and YHWH told me ! And Holy Spirit told me!
I have heard from ALL 3 !!!
Jesus returns early Oct 2027!!!
Lord Christ Yeshua will back in year 2033 EXACTLY 2000 years when was crusified in year 33 AD New Era i think and I hope 🙏🙏🙏
Jesus coming Nisan 5786
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Jesus is coming in 2023, we are not promised tomorrow!
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Well you were wrong
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