Being a lifetime member and going through my own current “walking on water” trials . Your story here of the Cardinals deeply touched my heart. I was rooting for you to see one and when you did, and you dropped to your knees, I dropped to my knees too… so to speak. Thank you for sharing that one. Personally I really needed it. I don’t doubt the church, but my current trials sure are heavy right now… Wouldn’t change it for the world! I love how we bless each other in this church!
A stepping stone of Faith. Heavenly father is always looking for excuses to bless us, anytime we even reach out a little he "Reaches for [our] reaching". Speaking of: next time you drop by Utah, I've got a Provo temple rock for you. 52 years, tens of thousands of missionaries' prayers answered, and (probably) the appearance of the Lord.
You know, I will further support you about the cardinal miracles you've experienced! The Book of Mormon teaches that all things upon the Earth witness of God. Alma 30:44 God uses his creations upon the Earth for his purposes and to do his will. I'd say your experience with the cardinals is comparable to what the Bible teaches. God used the birds as a sign of significant things happening, a way of leading to safety, and a way to talk to you in a way that you can relate to and that has great meaning to you. Thank you for sharing your beautiful testimony! Nature and its beauty, diversity, complexity, and life is a testimony of God! ❤
Like you David, I also have come from a Protestant background at age 25 I ran into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, joined,went on a mission, and have fed my faith almost every day by prayers,reading,attending church, and experiencing the Holy Spirit and revelations in so very many wonderful ways, I truly cherish my relationship with Jesus Christ. Now at 73 and the opportunities that I occasionally take to reflect on my membership in His True Church, I am overwhelmed with gratitude beyond my ability to express, the deep joy and love that has companioned me on this journey. I love it❤️🙏
The answer is simple, Palmyra was the place where Moroni buried one the Scriptures that were to be the Spiritual Meat to nourish the Saints of the latter- days.
That’s one of my favorite scriptures! I cling to it when people try to sway me. I know it and I know that God knows that I know it, how could I deny my God?
Loved this. You are not weird because of these cardinal bird sightings. God speaks to us in multiple ways. I think it’s amazing and beautiful. Your faith inspires me and builds mine. Thank you for sharing your faith journey!
I didn’t think I would have this opportunity to mention this to you. My husband and I were in Houston delivering food at the Bishops Storehouse. I was walking around the grounds thinking about you and your baptism. Well wouldn’t you know, 2 cardinals flew by me. I smiled and laughed and thought the Lord is very pleased with you.
When you talk about your Cardinal experiences I'm always reminded of what it says in 2 Nephi chapter 31 verse 3: "... For the Lord God giveth light unto the understanding; for he speaketh unto men according to their language, unto their understanding." God understands the intricacies of your mind better than anyone else. He knows how to make things happen that will direct your mind where it needs to go, regardless of how silly they might seem at times. Who can deny that God works in mysterious ways ❤ Thanks for sharing your conversion process with all of us 🙏
I also am a new convert and was baptized the next weekend after you did yours. I also come from a protestant background, and what has helped me when the doubts come in is the love that I feel for the church and the Book of Mormon, that in itself is big. I had head knowledge before but not the love for all humans that I have now. I too have so much to learn and am taking it one day at a time. Thank you David, you gave me the courage to jump...I did alot of research especially the history of the church and spent alot of times with the missionaries asking questions. ❤😊
That's so awesome! Welcome to the fold. You may not be as famous as David is now, because of RUclips, but in the Lord's eyes, your conversion is equally important. I'm so impressed with the courage and faith you recently baptized members display. Your testimony builds all of us up!
Born and raised a member of the church. It was hard to be the only member in my grade in Highschool. It gives me an appreciation for those who convert to the gospel later in life. Keep the faith brother. I too have been told to stop doubting. Everyone must choose, born in the church or to join later, we are all converts.
Hello David!! I love your cardinal stories!! I am a 64 year old life long member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I don't know if I have shared with you before about my 92 year old father and his hummingbird connection. Three years ago, my Beloved brother David passed away at the age of 59. He was named after my father. My father & my brother David were very close. David's death has been very hard on my father. But in the 3 years that David has been gone, he comes to my dad in the form of a hummingbird. Often times, the hummingbird will hover right in front of my dad's face making eye contact with him. My dad always feels David's presence when a hummingbird comes around, and a few times, he even heard David's voice telling him that everything would be okay. The Lord allows things to happen in a way that will resonate with each of us individually!! Don't ever feel silly about sharing your cardinal stories, because this grandma here LOVES THEM!! 🐦🔥🙏❤️
The way you’re navigating this new era of your page is so great! I remember you on Ward Radio wondering what was next… but I must say, I absolutely love what you’re doing. I’m glad you found a home in the gospel and are continuing to discuss your journey and visiting new places. You’ve strengthened my faith since I’ve returned to church.
David, I sure do love you. What courage you have to share your personal feelings and know that there will be some people who will deride you. I was a Protestant when at age 14 I KNEW there were too many churches that did not agree and I wanted TRUTH. I was lead to the Church of Jesus Christ and when I heard Joseph's story I SO related to him. He and I were so much alike in how we thought and thought about which of all the churches were true? When I knelt and prayed I felt just as he described his experience when he saw God the Father and Jesus Christ. The Holy Ghost gave me such a manifestion of truth that ALL doubt left me and my heart was changed. My conversation's power has sustained me over the last 50 years because my father turned against me and there have been very few I have been able to share my testimony with in my family. I enjoy reading your accounts and you are not weird seeing Red Cardinals! Heavenly Father is continuing to manifest His truth to you! Stay strong and know you are gaining so many friends along the way!
Stop doubting, brother. Testimonys can come line up on line. I joined the church at 19 years old, I'm 77 now. I look back at my life and can see the hand of God in my life and the spirit testifying to the truthfulness of the church many times.
David, as you were talking about opposition that faces many new converts, I was reminded of a 21-year old woman I knew in Toulouse, France many years ago. Her parents warned her that if she was baptized, she was no longer welcome in their home. That faith-filled sister fasted and prayed, and was baptized, Two years later I saw a photo in the Church News. It showed her as one of the missionaries opening up missionary work in Italy. (Thank you for your example of faith, Maria.)
You are amazing David! May Heavenly Father bless you to enjoy your journey on the covenant path. “ Doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith” President Dieter F. Uchtdorf
The Sacred Grove is so special to me even though I will never see it, but knowing that God, our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ are real gives so much hope and peace of mind and soul. I love listening to you and watching your testimony grow, which always strengthens mine. Thank you for taking me virtually to places I will never be able to go. And for raising money for St. Jude hospital. I wish I could post pictures of a display of a 7 1/2 foot Christmas tree that will be decorated with cardinals and poinsettias and angels. We are in the process of making the display as a fundraiser for Primary Children's Hospital here in Salt Lake City, Utah. Thee display will include a nativity and other Christ centered items. We are calling it "Light of Christ". David, you are bringing the Light of Christ into many lives. 🙏🙏😇
It really helped me to hear about your cardinal witnesses. Today God is helping me shift my thoughts about the talents He has given me. I paint birds and He has given me several insights that were backed up by your story - really helped me see that my God given gifts matter - all our God given gifts matter. Thank you.
I’ma life long 74-year old member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.,I had my own personal experience with D&C 6 about 21 years ago. It’s one of my personal testimony moments.
Your “cardinal” journey was like the icing on the cake. Your correlation or connection with red cardinals may go deeper than you can even understand in mortality, but as for this time, has been such a unique assurance to your conversion. Just know the Lord knows your thoughts and has great things in store for you for years to come. This is something he has blessed you with to continue fortifying yourself when it can be so easy to doubt. Keep up the great work! Love everything you are doing.
I love seeing your journey! One thing I learned from my father (who was an institute/religion instructor for the church) is that there is a difference between doubt and questions. Questions are necessary for our growth and learning. Without questions, we don't get answers. When I was a teen and had a lot of my own questions, my parents both told me "You're right on schedule! This is what you should be doing. We want you to have questions!" Why? Because it showed I was taking ownership of my faith. But most importantly, their confidence in my ability to learn the truth for myself gave me confidence that the answers were out there and not some great mystery I could never understand. I knew that if I studied and searched and prayed and stayed close to the Spirit and strong in my relationship with God, I would learn and gain the understanding I lacked. Don't doubt, but be believing that God will (and WANTS) to reveal the truth to you and that he can if you are asking, seeking, and knocking with REAL intent.
I live on the West Coast and few years ago I had the opportunity to travel across the country to visit the Hill Cumorah and the Sacred Grove. It was a very spiritual experience. Especially at Hill Cumorah. I was at the base of the Hill staring up at it and contemplating where on the Hill the plates were hidden by Moroni. I received an unmistakable witness from the Holy Ghost that it was sacred ground and the plates were indeed hidden there and later brought forth.
David, I have had two experiences with & while in the Sacred Grove. One is of such a personal revelatory instruction that I feel it is too sacred to disclose. Here's how I experienced the other: When I went there, I was with my husband & one of my daughters & her husband. We all decided to walk into the Grove alone & from different starting points. I walked right out of the little prairie home's back door & straight into the Grove. I began to wonder if I had been Joseph Smith exactly how would I decide where to walk. So for me, I decided to find a spot where I felt comfortable that I would not be seen by any of my family. So, I found a place that I felt like I could kneel comfortably out of sight. I stood there pondering what had happened as Joseph knelt inside that Grove on that spring morning. I didn't feel anything extraordinary, but I did feel a deep confirming testimony of the events he recorded as true. What was interesting is that the of the 4 of us who were in the Grove at that time did not run into each other, at all, on that day!
Dear David, my Brother, It is so heartwarming to hear your words. Please keep sharing. I'm a senior missionary who is also still learning after all these years of the Lord's tutoring. I often feel the Lord's compassion when I realize again and again that I'm looking at life through a pin hole at His grand plan! Just when I think I have a real grasp, I'm presented with a new visita of the enormity of His work and how small is my hand as I try to help. If there is one thing, I've learned it is, "Doubt not, because ye see not." His promises are sure and it is our privilege to see His Hand revealed. Blessings on you and all of us as we Follow Him!
Love love love your genuine heart! Thank you for sharing! I think more people can relate to your connection with the “natural” world! ❤️☀️ What an incredible story about the red cardinals! So very special! 🥰
Oh you Quoted my favorite scripture- D&C 6 is the best! I love the verse where the Lord tells Oliver to think back to when he felt the spirit speak peace to his mind. And encourages: “What greater witness can you have than from God?” ❤
I joined the church at age 25 and I am now approaching 79 in a couple of weeks. Yes I have had periods of asking is this really true? And then the answers would always come. Always hold on to what you know and as elder uchtdorf once said in a conference talk doubt your doubts not your faith
You are amazing with your beautiful videos. They really touch me! Someone very talented with the beautiful music along with pictures of the Sacred Grove. You have a ministry to do and are doing it splendidly!, seems like the Holy Ghost is really inspiring you! I watched this one 3 times back to back keep doin’ great job!
I love your use of natural scenes and music to preface and set a contemplative mindset for the comments that follow. They seem to help me hear the purity of faith that is so refreshing from our new members. Keep glowing gently - others will follow.
D&C 6:36- is one of my favorite scriptures! “Look unto me in every thought; doubt not, fear not.” Definitely not a coincidence you found comfort and solace from it too!!
David, I was born to parents who were members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Laterday saints, so my conversion story is different than yours, but we all have to become converted. We aren't born with a testimony. I realize that it may be more difficult and requires more spiritual walking on water as you mentioned, for one who was not born into an LDS family. My great great grandfather was a convert to the church in London England. We have family records and letters between him and his father. His father could never accept this church that his son had joined but their letters were respectful of one another. I have read other things that my great great great grandfather wrote and I have come to see him as a man with great faith in God, but his background kept him from accepting the truth of the restored church. I have come to feel a bond with my great great great grandfather and I have a hope that when I pass beyound this life, I will be able to greet him and learn that he was able to accept the truth of the reastoration in the spirit world.
Yay! I love it when you make videos about your testimony and what you’ve learned! From the talk “Come join with us!” By Dieter F Uchtdorf Oct 2013 he says -Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters-my dear friends-please, first doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith. We must never allow doubt to hold us prisoner and keep us from the divine love, peace, and gifts that come through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.❤ I am sure it HAS to be difficult if loved ones do not understand. Just remember your example and how bright your spirit is will witness to them. You do not have to prove anything to anyone! Pray to know what to say if you feel cornered. You will be blessed for this massive life changing sacrifice you have made. Heavenly Father KNOWS YOU and loves you and you’re on the right path even if others don’t understand. You also have us to be there for you too as you know.
Loved it, David! Thanks for taking us along with you to such a holy place. I love your update about your journey so far. Try not to doubt. We have NO DOUBT that the cardinals and the monarch ARE messages from heaven. 😇😍 I'm digging the shirt too. 😊
Dear Friend David, you are definitely a deep thinker, and the Lord is using your testimony to share His Gospel. Keep sharing your Cardinal stories with us!
There are three large trees that are larger than all the other trees in the grove. They are called the apostle trees. They are right at about 200 years old
Those cardinals are your ancestors letting you know that they are keeping an eye on you. They know you will be THE ONE who will do the temple work for them. You will discover them and the joy you will give them the first time you take them to the temple.
I'm glad you were able to receive that confirmation from God in the grove. I've never been there before, but I'd love to go. I really sympathize with the great and spacious building comments. Strangely enough, I just referenced that exact same thing to my husband this morning. It's disheartening. But less so when we remember that we were told exactly how it would go. How it would look and feel. But we aren't alone at all. We all have each other, and anyone we can lift up along the way. They are still to be found.
Oh my, not silly at all! I have that connection with His creation too, it’s strange and difficult to understand but easy to discern 🙏 for me and my family it’s rainbows, my brother passed of leukemia in 1963, he told my parents he would paint rainbows, and it has been a comfort through the years, the day my dad passed, fourteen days after mom, driving out the driveway there was a double rainbow. Glory Hallelujah ❤🙏 I also seem to communicate with some animals, sometimes the Lord wants to play and have fun, I picture Him laughing with joy when He is happy with me, and He does things that give me joy and laughter, I fall to my knees and reach for Him🙏 glory glory hallelujah praise His name
You always pull out cool symbolism that is so neat. The trees reaching to heaven and how tall they can grow because they are together in the grove stood out to me.
My first encounter with the LDS church was seeing the Community of Christ edition of the Book of Mormon on Amazon around 2007. I decided to buy it and see what it was about. Next my physics teacher at high school I finally noticed had a BOM on his desk. I took a card from him and contacted the missionaries and the rest is history.
I love ❤️your videos David, and the signs and symbolism the Lord is giving you as you continue on your spiritual journey and walk the covenant path. I know when you are feeling/hearing the words “don’t doubt,” they’re coming from the Holy Ghost. He’s always with you and you are receiving inspiration and direction from him. Thank you for your testimony of Jesus Christ and the demonstrable way you’re keeping your baptismal covenants.
I always enjoy watching your videos. I love red Cardinals! Whenever I see them I think of my mom who has passed. I love following your journey!! You are very spiritual person 💗
The sacred. Grove is one of the most spiritual places. I have ever been. the spirit there is overpowering, I could go back there over and over and over again Just to feel that spirit again
Thank you for your inspirational words. You moved me to tears. I was born and raised LDS, and I endeavor to stay committed to Jesus Christ and the covenant path to reach eternity. God bless you. Stay the course.👍😊😊😊💗💗💗🙏🙏🙏🙏Keep the faith.
I love your channel because it just provides further proof that if we seek truth, we will eventually find it. You've approached every faith and denomination in this journey with sincerity and a willingness to learn, even if you didn't necessarily agree or believe everything they were teaching. You still listened and that is a very hard thing for anyone to do and it's a testament to your humility. You were inquisitive and asked questions, instead of working off of assumptions or the teachings of others. You went straight to the source and found out for yourself. So I don't think any member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is at all surprised where your story has eventually landed because we all know that this really is His Church, thanks to the restoration of the fullness of His gospel through Joseph Smith, and you found exactly what you were seeking. Nevertheless, we all love to see it because, not only are we happy for YOU, but having this little window into your life provides yet another testimony to us that testifies to the truthfulness of all of it! To answer your question though - I visited the Sacred Grove when I was in my early twenties. Unfortunately, my faith was not very strong at the time so I didn't get everything out of it that I could. But it was very surreal, knowing that you're standing in the place where Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph. I have two boys, ages 8 and 10, and I plan to take a trip back there with them in the next few years so they can see that special place for themselves.
Thank you so much for sharing these most sacred places . Such a humble beginning in the log farm house with the sacred grove right there . I’m sure the most special spirit of witness was felt in the sacred grove and hill Comurah . I would love to see all those places one day. And kirtland temple is so sacred . I hope you went inside . I love church history .
I've been to Palmyra twice (from AZ) and it's such a wonderful place to get that full understanding of Joseph Smith and what he had to go through to remain strong and do God's will. Thanks for your sincerity and for describing what you are feeling. This is a testimony in itself. You may consider going to Nauvoo. I spent five full days there in order to see everything that was offered in the area. Thanks for continuing with your videos!
Thank you David for sharing your journey with us! You are so positive and respectful of all the churches you have been to, even the more unusual churches, you have given a fair description of. I appreciate your open mindedness and sincere desire to seek for truth. I feel like your journey has been about uniting followers of Christ. Thank you Brother! Best wishes from England 🏴
The Joseph Smith story of searching for the right church is the example for all to follow to find the Savior's church. After struggling with arguments from all sides about doctrines and being totally confused, the one right answer came through communion with God, the Expert on the subject.
Your videos are always such a pleasure to listen to. So positive and upbeat. I've really enjoyed following your journey over the past 1+ years :) One book that has been tremendously helpful to me regarding my own doubts, and how such doubts are a crucial aspect of our spiritual growth, along with faith, is called "The Crucible of Doubt" by Terryl and Fiona Givens. That book really resonated with me. One line in particular I try to remember: "There is a type of flower that can only bloom in the desert of doubt. Faith that we elect to perfect in the absence of certainty is an offering that is entirely free, unconditioned and utterly authentic. Such a gesture represents our considered and chosen response to the universe, our ascent to what we find beautiful and worthy, and deserving of our risk."
I can't wait for the Kirtland temple video 😍!!! David, have you been ordained to the Melchizedek priesthood yet? Have you had a chance to baptize anyone yet? Have you had a chance to go and do proxy baptisms at the temple yet? We'd love to hear about it if you have 😊❤
Hi David, I think raw, real, and authentic describes you very well. You can use the words silly & weird about your Cardinal sightings all you want, but I will always think they are marvelous. Especially seeing 5 on your baptism day, which could have been a mini family reunion in support of that joyous day? I loved your thoughts about the trees in the Sacred Grove representing the Tree of Life, growth, rooted in Scripture & protecting each other. Last month, I also visited the Kirtland Temple & the John Johnson farm in Hyrum, OH. It's a spiritual feast that's well worth your time. Last week, I attended BYU Education Week for the 2nd year in a row & I would highly recommend you look into attending in August of 2025. Thanks for sharing your journey. Best wishes always.
In my youth I visited with my family and felt the Spirit of God in the Sacred Grove. The church owns the property so others can feel such beautiful peace there. The land will never be an apt complex.
Excellent, genuine content. No one should put a cap on what God can do to communicate with us and manifest his mercy to us. He is truly mindful of every person (Alma 26:37).
Hey, Trail! Great to see you here. Have you seen Chris the casual? He's investigating the church but he's pretty hung up on the idea of a heavenly mother. Was that a big concern for you when you investigated the church?
@@gwengold8154 not really, since we don’t really focus on her much. My focus was on the BoM. If it’s true, then Joseph was a prophet and the Church is true. So I didn’t need to have every single thing “proved” after that.
@trailbackhome that's awesome! That's what I hope that Chris the casual will realize also. Like it says in Lawrence Corbridge's talk--there are primary questions, and there are secondary questions. The primary questions are really what matters.
There was a conference talk not long ago about Doubting your Doubts. It might be helpful. David, you have a very spiritual and poetic nature that makes you unique. Not everyone can recognize the symbolism in things like the cardinals. There is meaning in them for you alone and you have the faith to recognize that. Your testimony helps to strengthen mine.
My husband has a book about animal Spirit guides, so I looked up cardinal and it says, “this is a good time to make a fresh exploration of the religion You grew up in, with your eyes and heart open. “ And another resource I found says that cardinal represents friendship, love, devotion, self-confidence, assertiveness, family, and home, protection, and angel messages. You are obviously receiving many angel messages!
Many "tender mercies" will be subtle enough that we can choose to dismiss them as coincidences, but I find them hard to ignore when they are so repeated. I worry that some "fanatics" will treat every coincidence as a "sign", but I don't get that sense when you relate your stories as I also feel that there is something to this. Believing will always be a choice and there are some tough subjects that won't have good answers, but at the end of all of this, the Church is only expecting us to learn more about Jesus our savoir and try to serve, help, and love others as He would do. and, "don’t expect the world to cheer you on."
I love visiting the Sacred Grove. Sometimes we had the privilege of being there alone - as just husband and wife communing in its sacred surroundings or with our children, watching their understanding deepen. To think that I can stand on holy ground without traveling halfway around the world…to be where a young boy was introduced to Deity in a way he never expected…I feel honored and humbled each time we visit.
I love your videos David. Your story has made a deep impression on me and I think of you often and hope you are going strong. I have friends who have left the church and I am sorrowful because the gospel is so great and so true. I was hoping to see you at BYU Education week. It is so enlightening to be in a place where so many people are seeking to build their knowledge and faith of gospel truths as well as obtain other pertinent information to help them in daily living. Keep going on this journey. As you gain more light, you will be blessed.
I really love hear your experience, I am always expected to know what you going to share. I know you are a song of God. It is wonderful to hear you, thanks, David for your great work, keeping doing so, there are hundreds souls to touch, your vivid experience can make the difference. I hope your keep in the covenant path. God bless you. Keeping reading the Book of Mormon, and you never fell down. This is the only true and living church on the earth, direct by a living prophet. Russell M. Nelson. Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. Jesus Christ is on head of church. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days Saints.❤❤ love you bro. ❤❤ best regard from DR.
Always get excited to see you've got a new video out cause I know I'll learn something profound from your insights. Love the thoughts on the slim trees reaching to God, lifting each other, bearing witness of Him as examples of the saints. David, you are one of God's valiant sons and He is with you. Keep it up Brother Boice, we need you! And we expect persecution, Christ said we would have it.
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Thanks for watching! What does the Sacred Grove mean to you?
Would be glad to read your comments below.
Being a lifetime member and going through my own current “walking on water” trials . Your story here of the Cardinals deeply touched my heart. I was rooting for you to see one and when you did, and you dropped to your knees, I dropped to my knees too… so to speak. Thank you for sharing that one. Personally I really needed it. I don’t doubt the church, but my current trials sure are heavy right now… Wouldn’t change it for the world! I love how we bless each other in this church!
A stepping stone of Faith. Heavenly father is always looking for excuses to bless us, anytime we even reach out a little he "Reaches for [our] reaching".
Speaking of: next time you drop by Utah, I've got a Provo temple rock for you. 52 years, tens of thousands of missionaries' prayers answered, and (probably) the appearance of the Lord.
A place of reflection and appreciation of the greatness of God and his love for his creations.
God told me He visited Joseph Smith there. So I believe Him that He visited Joseph Smith.
You know, I will further support you about the cardinal miracles you've experienced! The Book of Mormon teaches that all things upon the Earth witness of God. Alma 30:44
God uses his creations upon the Earth for his purposes and to do his will. I'd say your experience with the cardinals is comparable to what the Bible teaches. God used the birds as a sign of significant things happening, a way of leading to safety, and a way to talk to you in a way that you can relate to and that has great meaning to you. Thank you for sharing your beautiful testimony! Nature and its beauty, diversity, complexity, and life is a testimony of God! ❤
Like you David, I also have come from a Protestant background at age 25 I ran into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, joined,went on a mission, and have fed my faith almost every day by prayers,reading,attending church, and experiencing the Holy Spirit and revelations in so very many wonderful ways, I truly cherish my relationship with Jesus Christ. Now at 73 and the opportunities that I occasionally take to reflect on my membership in His True Church, I am overwhelmed with gratitude beyond my ability to express, the deep joy and love that has companioned me on this journey. I love it❤️🙏
Awesome!!!
Amen!
Beautiful, sir.
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The answer is simple, Palmyra was the place where Moroni buried one the Scriptures that were to be the Spiritual Meat to nourish the Saints of the latter- days.
"I knew it. I knew that God knew it. And I could not deny it."
That’s one of my favorite scriptures! I cling to it when people try to sway me. I know it and I know that God knows that I know it, how could I deny my God?
“Doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith.”-President Dieter F. Uchtdorf
Uchtdorf is one of my favourites!
Such a culty thing to say lol
is this another cardinal sighting 😂
Loved this. You are not weird because of these cardinal bird sightings. God speaks to us in multiple ways. I think it’s amazing and beautiful. Your faith inspires me and builds mine. Thank you for sharing your faith journey!
I didn’t think I would have this opportunity to mention this to you.
My husband and I were in Houston delivering food at the Bishops Storehouse. I was walking around the grounds thinking about you and your baptism. Well wouldn’t you know, 2 cardinals flew by me. I smiled and laughed and thought the Lord is very pleased with you.
When you talk about your Cardinal experiences I'm always reminded of what it says in 2 Nephi chapter 31 verse 3:
"... For the Lord God giveth light unto the understanding; for he speaketh unto men according to their language, unto their understanding."
God understands the intricacies of your mind better than anyone else. He knows how to make things happen that will direct your mind where it needs to go, regardless of how silly they might seem at times. Who can deny that God works in mysterious ways ❤
Thanks for sharing your conversion process with all of us 🙏
I also am a new convert and was baptized the next weekend after you did yours. I also come from a protestant background, and what has helped me when the doubts come in is the love that I feel for the church and the Book of Mormon, that in itself is big. I had head knowledge before but not the love for all humans that I have now. I too have so much to learn and am taking it one day at a time. Thank you David, you gave me the courage to jump...I did alot of research especially the history of the church and spent alot of times with the missionaries asking questions. ❤😊
That's so awesome! Welcome to the fold. You may not be as famous as David is now, because of RUclips, but in the Lord's eyes, your conversion is equally important. I'm so impressed with the courage and faith you recently baptized members display. Your testimony builds all of us up!
Oh, welcome, welcome!!!!!
@@aprilamelung9124 Welcome!😊💗
Doubt not, fear not! Press on! I love your sincerity and humility! Welcome to the Kingdom of God! Keep up the great work!
Born and raised a member of the church. It was hard to be the only member in my grade in Highschool. It gives me an appreciation for those who convert to the gospel later in life. Keep the faith brother. I too have been told to stop doubting. Everyone must choose, born in the church or to join later, we are all converts.
Hello David!! I love your cardinal stories!! I am a 64 year old life long member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I don't know if I have shared with you before about my 92 year old father and his hummingbird connection. Three years ago, my Beloved brother David passed away at the age of 59. He was named after my father. My father & my brother David were very close. David's death has been very hard on my father. But in the 3 years that David has been gone, he comes to my dad in the form of a hummingbird. Often times, the hummingbird will hover right in front of my dad's face making eye contact with him. My dad always feels David's presence when a hummingbird comes around, and a few times, he even heard David's voice telling him that everything would be okay. The Lord allows things to happen in a way that will resonate with each of us individually!! Don't ever feel silly about sharing your cardinal stories, because this grandma here LOVES THEM!! 🐦🔥🙏❤️
That’s really cool!
These are the best videos on RUclips thank you. You, David Alexander, and even Ward Radio have been a great influence
The way you’re navigating this new era of your page is so great! I remember you on Ward Radio wondering what was next… but I must say, I absolutely love what you’re doing. I’m glad you found a home in the gospel and are continuing to discuss your journey and visiting new places. You’ve strengthened my faith since I’ve returned to church.
David, I sure do love you. What courage you have to share your personal feelings and know that there will be some people who will deride you. I was a Protestant when at age 14 I KNEW there were too many churches that did not agree and I wanted TRUTH. I was lead to the Church of Jesus Christ and when I heard Joseph's story I SO related to him. He and I were so much alike in how we thought and thought about which of all the churches were true? When I knelt and prayed I felt just as he described his experience when he saw God the Father and Jesus Christ. The Holy Ghost gave me such a manifestion of truth that ALL doubt left me and my heart was changed. My conversation's power has sustained me over the last 50 years because my father turned against me and there have been very few I have been able to share my testimony with in my family. I enjoy reading your accounts and you are not weird seeing Red Cardinals! Heavenly Father is continuing to manifest His truth to you! Stay strong and know you are gaining so many friends along the way!
Stop doubting, brother. Testimonys can come line up on line. I joined the church at 19 years old, I'm 77 now. I look back at my life and can see the hand of God in my life and the spirit testifying to the truthfulness of the church many times.
David, as you were talking about opposition that faces many new converts, I was reminded of a 21-year old woman I knew in Toulouse, France many years ago. Her parents warned her that if she was baptized, she was no longer welcome in their home. That faith-filled sister fasted and prayed, and was baptized, Two years later I saw a photo in the Church News. It showed her as one of the missionaries opening up missionary work in Italy. (Thank you for your example of faith, Maria.)
You are amazing David! May Heavenly Father bless you to enjoy your journey on the covenant path. “ Doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith” President Dieter F. Uchtdorf
Hello David, I truly believe that you are a special child of God and that you have an important work to do in His church. 😊❤❤❤
The Sacred Grove is so special to me even though I will never see it, but knowing that God, our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ are real gives so much hope and peace of mind and soul. I love listening to you and watching your testimony grow, which always strengthens mine. Thank you for taking me virtually to places I will never be able to go. And for raising money for St. Jude hospital. I wish I could post pictures of a display of a 7 1/2 foot Christmas tree that will be decorated with cardinals and poinsettias and angels. We are in the process of making the display as a fundraiser for Primary Children's Hospital here in Salt Lake City, Utah. Thee display will include a nativity and other Christ centered items. We are calling it "Light of Christ". David, you are bringing the Light of Christ into many lives. 🙏🙏😇
It really helped me to hear about your cardinal witnesses. Today God is helping me shift my thoughts about the talents He has given me. I paint birds and He has given me several insights that were backed up by your story - really helped me see that my God given gifts matter - all our God given gifts matter. Thank you.
I'm a convert from NZ David and yes we are family. Worldwide. Much love. I appreciate you.
I’ma life long 74-year old member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.,I had my own personal experience with D&C 6 about 21 years ago. It’s one of my personal testimony moments.
Your “cardinal” journey was like the icing on the cake. Your correlation or connection with red cardinals may go deeper than you can even understand in mortality, but as for this time, has been such a unique assurance to your conversion. Just know the Lord knows your thoughts and has great things in store for you for years to come. This is something he has blessed you with to continue fortifying yourself when it can be so easy to doubt. Keep up the great work! Love everything you are doing.
I love seeing your journey! One thing I learned from my father (who was an institute/religion instructor for the church) is that there is a difference between doubt and questions. Questions are necessary for our growth and learning. Without questions, we don't get answers. When I was a teen and had a lot of my own questions, my parents both told me "You're right on schedule! This is what you should be doing. We want you to have questions!" Why? Because it showed I was taking ownership of my faith. But most importantly, their confidence in my ability to learn the truth for myself gave me confidence that the answers were out there and not some great mystery I could never understand. I knew that if I studied and searched and prayed and stayed close to the Spirit and strong in my relationship with God, I would learn and gain the understanding I lacked. Don't doubt, but be believing that God will (and WANTS) to reveal the truth to you and that he can if you are asking, seeking, and knocking with REAL intent.
I live on the West Coast and few years ago I had the opportunity to travel across the country to visit the Hill Cumorah and the Sacred Grove. It was a very spiritual experience. Especially at Hill Cumorah. I was at the base of the Hill staring up at it and contemplating where on the Hill the plates were hidden by Moroni. I received an unmistakable witness from the Holy Ghost that it was sacred ground and the plates were indeed hidden there and later brought forth.
David, I have had two experiences with & while in the Sacred Grove. One is of such a personal revelatory instruction that I feel it is too sacred to disclose.
Here's how I experienced the other:
When I went there, I was with my husband & one of my daughters & her husband. We all decided to walk into the Grove alone & from different starting points. I walked right out of the little prairie home's back door & straight into the Grove.
I began to wonder if I had been Joseph Smith exactly how would I decide where to walk. So for me, I decided to find a spot where I felt comfortable that I would not be seen by any of my family. So, I found a place that I felt like I could kneel comfortably out of sight. I stood there pondering what had happened as Joseph knelt inside that Grove on that spring morning.
I didn't feel anything extraordinary, but I did feel a deep confirming testimony of the events he recorded as true.
What was interesting is that the of the 4 of us who were in the Grove at that time did not run into each other, at all, on that day!
Dear David, my Brother,
It is so heartwarming to hear your words. Please keep sharing.
I'm a senior missionary who is also still learning after all these years of the Lord's tutoring.
I often feel the Lord's compassion when I realize again and again that I'm looking at life through a pin hole at His grand plan! Just when I think I have a real grasp, I'm presented with a new visita of the enormity of His work and how small is my hand as I try to help.
If there is one thing, I've learned it is, "Doubt not, because ye see not." His promises are sure and it is our privilege to see His Hand revealed.
Blessings on you and all of us as we Follow Him!
Very inspiring. Thanks.😊 I’m also a convert. My testimony means the world to me. God bless you on your journey of faith in his kingdom.
@@maryannstout7600I love both of your comments. Thanks!
His Truth is marching on. Way to go David!
David I always enjoy listening to you. You are sincere & comitted. Your testimony is deeply profound.
I loved greeting you in the Conference Center after the Tabernacle Choir broadcast. I have been following you most of your 52 week journey. Judd
Love love love your genuine heart!
Thank you for sharing!
I think more people can relate to your connection with the “natural” world!
❤️☀️
What an incredible story about the red cardinals! So very special! 🥰
Oh you Quoted my favorite scripture- D&C 6 is the best! I love the verse where the Lord tells Oliver to think back to when he felt the spirit speak peace to his mind. And encourages: “What greater witness can you have than from God?” ❤
I joined the church at age 25 and I am now approaching 79 in a couple of weeks. Yes I have had periods of asking is this really true? And then the answers would always come. Always hold on to what you know and as elder uchtdorf once said in a conference talk doubt your doubts not your faith
You are amazing with your beautiful videos. They really touch me! Someone very talented with the beautiful music along with pictures of the Sacred Grove. You have a ministry to do and are doing it splendidly!, seems like the Holy Ghost is really inspiring you! I watched this one 3 times back to back keep doin’ great job!
I would love to go to the sacred Grove. Thanks for sharing this video.
Your new testimony and fresh perspective strengthens me! My parents converted. My life has been eternally blessed because of their faith!!
I love your use of natural scenes and music to preface and set a contemplative mindset for the comments that follow. They seem to help me hear the purity of faith that is so refreshing from our new members. Keep glowing gently - others will follow.
D&C 6:36- is one of my favorite scriptures! “Look unto me in every thought; doubt not, fear not.” Definitely not a coincidence you found comfort and solace from it too!!
David you have million of members of the church to have your back. Keep on the covenant path.
David, I was born to parents who were members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Laterday saints, so my conversion story is different than yours, but we all have to become converted. We aren't born with a testimony. I realize that it may be more difficult and requires more spiritual walking on water as you mentioned, for one who was not born into an LDS family.
My great great grandfather was a convert to the church in London England. We have family records and letters between him and his father. His father could never accept this church that his son had joined but their letters were respectful of one another. I have read other things that my great great great grandfather wrote and I have come to see him as a man with great faith in God, but his background kept him from accepting the truth of the restored church.
I have come to feel a bond with my great great great grandfather and I have a hope that when I pass beyound this life, I will be able to greet him and learn that he was able to accept the truth of the reastoration in the spirit world.
Yay! I love it when you make videos about your testimony and what you’ve learned! From the talk “Come join with us!” By Dieter F Uchtdorf Oct 2013 he says -Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters-my dear friends-please, first doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith. We must never allow doubt to hold us prisoner and keep us from the divine love, peace, and gifts that come through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.❤
I am sure it HAS to be difficult if loved ones do not understand. Just remember your example and how bright your spirit is will witness to them. You do not have to prove anything to anyone! Pray to know what to say if you feel cornered. You will be blessed for this massive life changing sacrifice you have made. Heavenly Father KNOWS YOU and loves you and you’re on the right path even if others don’t understand. You also have us to be there for you too as you know.
Loved it, David! Thanks for taking us along with you to such a holy place. I love your update about your journey so far. Try not to doubt. We have NO DOUBT that the cardinals and the monarch ARE messages from heaven. 😇😍
I'm digging the shirt too. 😊
Dear Friend David, you are definitely a deep thinker, and the Lord is using your testimony to share His Gospel. Keep sharing your Cardinal stories with us!
There are three large trees that are larger than all the other trees in the grove. They are called the apostle trees. They are right at about 200 years old
Those cardinals are your ancestors letting you know that they are keeping an eye on you. They know you will be THE ONE who will do the temple work for them. You will discover them and the joy you will give them the first time you take them to the temple.
This is true!
I'm glad you were able to receive that confirmation from God in the grove. I've never been there before, but I'd love to go. I really sympathize with the great and spacious building comments. Strangely enough, I just referenced that exact same thing to my husband this morning. It's disheartening. But less so when we remember that we were told exactly how it would go. How it would look and feel. But we aren't alone at all. We all have each other, and anyone we can lift up along the way. They are still to be found.
Oh my, not silly at all! I have that connection with His creation too, it’s strange and difficult to understand but easy to discern 🙏 for me and my family it’s rainbows, my brother passed of leukemia in 1963, he told my parents he would paint rainbows, and it has been a comfort through the years, the day my dad passed, fourteen days after mom, driving out the driveway there was a double rainbow. Glory Hallelujah ❤🙏 I also seem to communicate with some animals, sometimes the Lord wants to play and have fun, I picture Him laughing with joy when He is happy with me, and He does things that give me joy and laughter, I fall to my knees and reach for Him🙏 glory glory hallelujah praise His name
You always pull out cool symbolism that is so neat. The trees reaching to heaven and how tall they can grow because they are together in the grove stood out to me.
My first encounter with the LDS church was seeing the Community of Christ edition of the Book of Mormon on Amazon around 2007. I decided to buy it and see what it was about. Next my physics teacher at high school I finally noticed had a BOM on his desk. I took a card from him and contacted the missionaries and the rest is history.
I have different versions of the Book of Mormon from splinter groups. The text is different from the LDS Stand Works version.
@@BunnyWatson-k1w true!
I love ❤️your videos David, and the signs and symbolism the Lord is giving you as you continue on your spiritual journey and walk the covenant path. I know when you are feeling/hearing the words “don’t doubt,” they’re coming from the Holy Ghost. He’s always with you and you are receiving inspiration and direction from him. Thank you for your testimony of Jesus Christ and the demonstrable way you’re keeping your baptismal covenants.
David thanks for your heartfelt awesome work. I'm grateful you are in the restoration.
Thanks for the tour, I still hope to see the Sacred Grove one day.
You are in our thoughts and prayers as you build your personal relationship with The Savior and His restored Gospel. Bless you David
The quality of these videos are stunning. So nice to see these places again.
love you bro authentic!
A Monarch butterfly flew over my head and i was looking up the symbolism moments before you brought it up in your video. Transformation and change. 🦋
I always enjoy watching your videos. I love red Cardinals! Whenever I see them I think of my mom who has passed. I love following your journey!! You are very spiritual person 💗
The sacred.
Grove is one of the most spiritual places. I have ever been. the spirit there is overpowering, I could go back there over and over and over again Just to feel that spirit again
You're very spiritually minded and I believe it will serve you well.
I love your analogies! You have a gift! Thank you!
Thank you for your inspirational words. You moved me to tears. I was born and raised LDS, and I endeavor to stay committed to Jesus Christ and the covenant path to reach eternity. God bless you. Stay the course.👍😊😊😊💗💗💗🙏🙏🙏🙏Keep the faith.
Great content. Thank you
You are so awesome! You strengthen my testimony every time I listen to your testimony!!
Your videos are always so insiring. Thank you for sharing.
I love your channel because it just provides further proof that if we seek truth, we will eventually find it. You've approached every faith and denomination in this journey with sincerity and a willingness to learn, even if you didn't necessarily agree or believe everything they were teaching. You still listened and that is a very hard thing for anyone to do and it's a testament to your humility. You were inquisitive and asked questions, instead of working off of assumptions or the teachings of others. You went straight to the source and found out for yourself. So I don't think any member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is at all surprised where your story has eventually landed because we all know that this really is His Church, thanks to the restoration of the fullness of His gospel through Joseph Smith, and you found exactly what you were seeking. Nevertheless, we all love to see it because, not only are we happy for YOU, but having this little window into your life provides yet another testimony to us that testifies to the truthfulness of all of it!
To answer your question though - I visited the Sacred Grove when I was in my early twenties. Unfortunately, my faith was not very strong at the time so I didn't get everything out of it that I could. But it was very surreal, knowing that you're standing in the place where Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph. I have two boys, ages 8 and 10, and I plan to take a trip back there with them in the next few years so they can see that special place for themselves.
Thanks for sharing your personal spiritual experiences. ❤ It helps boost my own witness of the restored gospel. I'm a convert, too. 😊
Loved your insight about the thin trees each individually reaching for the heavens representing the church. Really beautiful.
Thank YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING!!
This is amazing! Heavenly Father is guiding you through. Just lovely!
Your protecent background to Laterday Saint is like that butterfly changing from one phase to another
I am amazed that you are able to travel so far to complete these wonderful videos. They are well appreciated and my favorite RUclips channel.
The butterfly is telling you to keep moving forward. Don’t go back to the cocoon.
Thank you so much for sharing these most sacred places . Such a humble beginning in the log farm house with the sacred grove right there . I’m sure the most special spirit of witness was felt in the sacred grove and hill Comurah . I would love to see all those places one day. And kirtland temple is so sacred . I hope you went inside . I love church history .
loved your insight about the skinny little trees reaching up towards heaven
I've been to Palmyra twice (from AZ) and it's such a wonderful place to get that full understanding of Joseph Smith and what he had to go through to remain strong and do God's will. Thanks for your sincerity and for describing what you are feeling. This is a testimony in itself. You may consider going to Nauvoo. I spent five full days there in order to see everything that was offered in the area. Thanks for continuing with your videos!
Thank you David for sharing your journey with us! You are so positive and respectful of all the churches you have been to, even the more unusual churches, you have given a fair description of. I appreciate your open mindedness and sincere desire to seek for truth. I feel like your journey has been about uniting followers of Christ. Thank you Brother! Best wishes from England 🏴
The Joseph Smith story of searching for the right church is the example for all to follow to find the Savior's church. After struggling with arguments from all sides about doctrines and being totally confused, the one right answer came through communion with God, the Expert on the subject.
Your videos are always such a pleasure to listen to. So positive and upbeat. I've really enjoyed following your journey over the past 1+ years :)
One book that has been tremendously helpful to me regarding my own doubts, and how such doubts are a crucial aspect of our spiritual growth, along with faith, is called "The Crucible of Doubt" by Terryl and Fiona Givens. That book really resonated with me. One line in particular I try to remember:
"There is a type of flower that can only bloom in the desert of doubt. Faith that we elect to perfect in the absence of certainty is an offering that is entirely free, unconditioned and utterly authentic. Such a gesture represents our considered and chosen response to the universe, our ascent to what we find beautiful and worthy, and deserving of our risk."
I can't wait for the Kirtland temple video 😍!!!
David, have you been ordained to the Melchizedek priesthood yet? Have you had a chance to baptize anyone yet? Have you had a chance to go and do proxy baptisms at the temple yet? We'd love to hear about it if you have 😊❤
Hi David,
I think raw, real, and authentic describes you very well.
You can use the words silly & weird about your Cardinal sightings all you want, but I will always think they are marvelous. Especially seeing 5 on your baptism day, which could have been a mini family reunion in support of that joyous day?
I loved your thoughts about the trees in the Sacred Grove representing the Tree of Life, growth, rooted in Scripture & protecting each other.
Last month, I also visited the Kirtland Temple & the John Johnson farm in Hyrum, OH. It's a spiritual feast that's well worth your time.
Last week, I attended BYU Education Week for the 2nd year in a row & I would highly recommend you look into attending in August of 2025.
Thanks for sharing your journey. Best wishes always.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, can't wait for the Kirkland temple video.
In my youth I visited with my family and felt the Spirit of God in the Sacred Grove. The church owns the property so others can feel such beautiful peace there. The land will never be an apt complex.
Thank you for sharing your experience, how lucky you are to be able to cisit all these wonderful places!
Excellent, genuine content. No one should put a cap on what God can do to communicate with us and manifest his mercy to us. He is truly mindful of every person (Alma 26:37).
Your journey is really wonderful. I love the church too,. You choose the right one God bless you ❤
I always love watching your videos! Keep looking for the cardinals!
Would be amazing to visit there someday! So glad to see these every week!
Hey, Trail! Great to see you here. Have you seen Chris the casual? He's investigating the church but he's pretty hung up on the idea of a heavenly mother. Was that a big concern for you when you investigated the church?
@@gwengold8154 not really, since we don’t really focus on her much. My focus was on the BoM. If it’s true, then Joseph was a prophet and the Church is true. So I didn’t need to have every single thing “proved” after that.
@trailbackhome that's awesome! That's what I hope that Chris the casual will realize also. Like it says in Lawrence Corbridge's talk--there are primary questions, and there are secondary questions. The primary questions are really what matters.
There was a conference talk not long ago about Doubting your Doubts. It might be helpful.
David, you have a very spiritual and poetic nature that makes you unique. Not everyone can recognize the symbolism in things like the cardinals. There is meaning in them for you alone and you have the faith to recognize that. Your testimony helps to strengthen mine.
My husband has a book about animal Spirit guides, so I looked up cardinal and it says, “this is a good time to make a fresh exploration of the religion You grew up in, with your eyes and heart open. “
And another resource I found says that cardinal represents friendship, love, devotion, self-confidence, assertiveness, family, and home, protection, and angel messages.
You are obviously receiving many angel messages!
Many "tender mercies" will be subtle enough that we can choose to dismiss them as coincidences, but I find them hard to ignore when they are so repeated. I worry that some "fanatics" will treat every coincidence as a "sign", but I don't get that sense when you relate your stories as I also feel that there is something to this. Believing will always be a choice and there are some tough subjects that won't have good answers, but at the end of all of this, the Church is only expecting us to learn more about Jesus our savoir and try to serve, help, and love others as He would do.
and, "don’t expect the world to cheer you on."
I love visiting the Sacred Grove. Sometimes we had the privilege of being there alone - as just husband and wife communing in its sacred surroundings or with our children, watching their understanding deepen. To think that I can stand on holy ground without traveling halfway around the world…to be where a young boy was introduced to Deity in a way he never expected…I feel honored and humbled each time we visit.
And, as Elder Utchdorf counseled in General Conference a few years ago, “Doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith.”
I love your videos David. Your story has made a deep impression on me and I think of you often and hope you are going strong. I have friends who have left the church and I am sorrowful because the gospel is so great and so true. I was hoping to see you at BYU Education week. It is so enlightening to be in a place where so many people are seeking to build their knowledge and faith of gospel truths as well as obtain other pertinent information to help them in daily living. Keep going on this journey. As you gain more light, you will be blessed.
I really love hear your experience, I am always expected to know what you going to share. I know you are a song of God. It is wonderful to hear you, thanks, David for your great work, keeping doing so, there are hundreds souls to touch, your vivid experience can make the difference. I hope your keep in the covenant path. God bless you. Keeping reading the Book of Mormon, and you never fell down. This is the only true and living church on the earth, direct by a living prophet. Russell M. Nelson. Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. Jesus Christ is on head of church. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days Saints.❤❤ love you bro. ❤❤ best regard from DR.
Thanks for your beautiful insights. I feel like church members are so happy for you because that’s the joy we feel when we’re reunited with family
My family and I visited the Saved Grove and other Church historical sites for the first time just last month! Quietly profound.
Yay!!! I've been looking so forward to this one! I can't wait to watch it 😊
I'm so glad the Lord is well aware of how you "get" His messages! Wonderful!
Such a great video. We love you keep going in your faith.
Always get excited to see you've got a new video out cause I know I'll learn something profound from your insights. Love the thoughts on the slim trees reaching to God, lifting each other, bearing witness of Him as examples of the saints. David, you are one of God's valiant sons and He is with you. Keep it up Brother Boice, we need you! And we expect persecution, Christ said we would have it.
Spot on David!