Christiania: Copenhagen's Threatened Socialist Community
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Christiania (2004): The battle to save a socialist commune in the heart of Copenhagen
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Despite fending off numerous eviction attempts, the hippies of Christiania now face their most serious threat to date: market forces.
The government sees Christiania as a run down, crime ridden haven for drug dealers. It wants to improve the area through privatisation, forcing residents to buy the houses they currently occupy. If they don’t, the houses will be sold at market value. “We need to make sure this slumming way will end,” reasons government spokesman Ulrik Kragh. But that’s a prospect which fills residents with despair. “Christiania is totally opposed to market values,” explains long-time resident Nils Vest. If commercial values were to be imposed on Christiania, it would become just like everywhere else. “The government is making a sort of ideological crusade against everything and anything that could be a little bit left wing,” states resident Preban Kristensen. Where other attempts to drive the hippies out have failed, private ownership may finally succeed.
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Christiania is a wonderful place that should be forever preserved. My wife and I visited in 2013; we went back to Christiania three times in our brief stay in Copenhagen. Got better every time. Wonderful place. I would literally live there, and I realize that it would be very challenging in many ways. But what a humane existence!
People parasiteing of each other? People dealing drugs wonderful place? Alcohol addicted ?
@@albertocassinelli349 There are lots of complete sentences in Christiania. Would you like to go there for basic grammar studies?
@@albertocassinelli349 You are an idiot...Soft drugs are ok. Alcohol is not more a problem then anywhere else...FUCK YOU
@@albertocassinelli349 LOL clueless!
Christiania is today still going strong and have bought the land by a fond which all people of Denmark could donate to.
There are tell tale signs here, about the gentle personality traits of a sophisticated society.
I'm glad there is an update on the community as I've been fascinated by christiania for a while, but not too much info is out there.
This documentary was made 11 years ago.
Christiania is still there; as the saying goes "They can't make us go away, we are a part of what they are" (it sounds better in Danish, and even rhymes too - but you propably get the idea :-))
The Hash & Weed market out there is still going strong. I personally never had any problems buying out there even when it was supposedly shut down. Most people (myself included) see it great little (car-free, which I don´t think they mentioned) oasis, where you can quickly get away from the noise and stress of the city. Plus it´s one of the biggest tourist attractions we have, so I don´t think it´s going to change too much anytime soon.
There's nothing wrong with the way people in Christiania wants to live but the crackdown of the illegal weed market out there is due to organized criminals like Hells Angels and other dubious, violent criminals that exploit the free market and push their power onto the community (and pay the community a small fee for letting them deal there). A poor 18-year old boy tried to go there to deal weed and was beaten to death by organized pushers. No one wanted to come forward and point out the guilty people. They live in a society of fear where organized criminals are keeping a stranglehold on them to not interfere.
Best docs in the game.
it's sad it's come to this, this part of the city is like a coral reef for the city, it's the centre of creativity
It isn't a socialist commune and not a commune anyway. Don't know how anybody could come away with such an impression. Maybe somebody from the USA perhaps.
Y'know people, its possible to live like this, but not in a commune setting.
Put a (non-religious) twist on the phrase, "in the world but not OF the world...."
What a great place shameful that government just see money not life and happiness. We have tepee Valley in Wales that's in some way similar the people fight against authorities as a group and win constantly. Good luck
Underdeveloped real estate in the heart of Copenhagen? The community needs to gain title free and clear or they will be perpetually threatened by external forces. If you live on borrowed property, you live on borrowed time.
this property is not borrowed. It just doesn't belong to anyone
@@karinaklinkeviciute2444 The property belongs to Christiania as of 2012. It's legal.
Anarchist*
Anarchism, as a political theory, was heavily influenced by socialism. Christiania is either a mutualist system (anarchism with free-market socialism) or a straight-up Anarcho-Socialist system
Anarchistic which is neither Left-Wing or socialist.
Lenge leve Christiania!
Socialism and Capitalism simply cannot exist on the same planet. The ONLY way for a Socialist society to exist is from the destruction of Capitalism. And when I say the destruction of Capitalism I'm not talking about just the idea alone, but the people as well.
Then again the humanism & pacifism embedded in the socialist idea forbid „destroying people“.
Excellent doccie
Invite the Danish Monarchy for some Danish afternoon tea, and petition for a Royal Patent
Socialism is a tool of political intrigue, I wouldn't call a self governed state socialist.
Socialism just means social ownership
@@uncleseth6879 So when the state uses socialism to try to wager you into it's political division are you going to buy it? If a people is free of a external threat it is because they are free and live without modern society encouraging on there god given rights. You can try to redefine that and in fact you can try to change it but If you put a price on it you no longer can say I'm a free man I'm a socialist. Also, let's not be naive socialism is a type of classism and free people are not ruled by the state. As for social ownership I think that's an illusion and there is nationalism that ties people to a land but that does not mean that they are socially bound to that land.
@@kissofthecobra3761 I'm not actually redefining it because that is its definition. There is authoritarian state socialism but it doesn't mean that automatically.
@@uncleseth6879 Right! There are different forms of socialism.
@@kissofthecobra3761 indeed there are 👍
My only criticism would be the secular name, ' christiania'. If there is a religious dominating element, then this place is a place of manipulation. Let me find out, I may return to comment.
Wouldn't look good, if christiania', became the capital's capital. Peace and tranquility, will always be under attack from the bitter jealous tribe.
I love Christiania. Went there many years ago...
🌬♥️Thank You Journeyman. Nice movie - love from Siv Mælkebøtten (the port to the left) next time/ come to me.We own the houses today.
So, 11 years later, what happened?
Who won? Are they still there?
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yup. Still there, and with a bit of luck and support we'll be here for a long time yet. Check out this site: www.christianiafolkeaktie.dk/
Ohh!!! that utopia that can never be reached but dreamt
It have been reached for more than 40 years allready. But hey - Denmark is widely renowned for being a land of fairytales ;-)
WormholeJim I agree with you a bit. relatively speaking the Scandinavians are nearer .... well, unless isis took over
good journalism, thank you
My band played a show there in 1991, what a trip! It was like a Viking Hippy commune, but they had their sh*t together and paid us, fed us, and we got to crash there and hang out for a day before slogging off to the next town. Don't know if it's still there, but they had a big community center that regularly had rock shows, mostly any kind of alternative music.
Its still there :) Even today.
nice
legaliseringav
So, they occupyed a land they don't own? These people are land-grabbers, criminals and they should be put in prison.
The concept of „owning land“...
don't believe in everything they tell you, DevelopingOne.
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SOCIALIST? hahahaha. Put some Stalin over there for some real SOCIALISM.
Stalin was not socialist, he pretended to be
Anarchism, as a political theory, was heavily influenced by socialism. Christiania is either a mutualist system (anarchism with free-market socialism) or a straight-up Anarcho-Socialist system