Option to turn off tag flash or at least lessen it so it doesn't flash bang a portion of your screen. I enjoy the game but for some reason, that flash throws me off. Other flashes doesn't just that one.
@@Khann_2102And even then, their choices for functions were overall meh especially given the copy and paste roster and how received those guys were compared to the pre-MvC3 rosters.
I guess X-Men 97 was greenlit because of the PR fiasco of "characters are just functions", that exposed how bad were the X-Men treated by Marvel because of the MCU. If Marvel keeps the ball rolling with X-Men 97, a new MvC official game is a no brainer.
@@LeonardoSilva-xm8ft the Fantastic 4 is more of a FOX flavored MCU. And I like the way those characters were portrayed. That's kinda why Chris Evans never convinced me as the serious stern Captain America, because he was the goofy playful Human Torch to me. I wish Capcom incorporated the Fantastic 4 in a 90's fighting game, like they did to the X-Men.
... Yeah, keep MVCI should be a different flavor than UMVC3. UMVC3 is getting it's own mods and is amazing and this should be it's own thing so we have different things to enjoy.
Top priority: Visuals. Core of the project, right there. Should include the bosses too. High priority: Music. Fighting games normally have great music, and the fact that MvCI has tracks - remixed tracks, no less - that I'd call bad is a crime. High-medium priority: Mechanical tweaks like what Max proposed here. Just broad stuff for now. Medium priority: Character importer and expanded slots. Get the missing UMvC3 cast in here pronto, with rebalancing later. A solution for bringing its mods in would be cool eventually, but that's a lot of heckin' work. Sounds like this may be happening already, but through a different modder. Moderate priority: Battle Without the Stones. Adding three-person teams to MvCI is absurd and unnecessary given how its tags work, but a mode/groove with Infinity Stones turned off would be simple and potentially interesting. Moderate priority: Complementing that, adding a mode with assists, but only when one character is KO'd like 2XKO's comeback mechanic. I cannot stress enough how important retaining MvCI's tag system is. Low priority: Original new character mods. Low because, frankly, there's no dragging away UMvC3's community at this point, and I'd like to see 'em finish that Community Edition.
the weird part is that the Credits have an MCUfied version of Spidey's original theme & honestly works, Ghost Rider's MvC:I theme is better, & honestly the Capcom Character remixes aren't bad art all... but tastes are different so at least a toggle/option on the mod loader would be neat nah, replacing the Stones with a third character is just UMvC3 & at that point might as well just play modded Marvel 3
Visuals: Totally agree. Music: Personally, I'd leave the Infinite newcomer themes untouched. Everyone else can get different themes though if they end up being original tunes, PLEASE remix OTHER themes for the characters. Again personally, it'd be cooler to remix some of the previous MvC tunes as character or stage themes. Character Importer: Yes please. Maybe we can figure out how to add more stages in the future. Stones: Yeah, I'd go for a stone less groove. Though I'd also go for an unlockable Gauntlet groove that, hear me out, felt like SFxT's Pandora Mode done right.
X vs Zero BGM with movie orchestra aesthetic but only arranged the intro part is obviously out of mind. It's like removed the reason why X fight Zero in the first place
At least he and Wolverine can join the "lack of presence in all of MvC" club. Granted, Akuma wasn't in MvC1 and we had Evil Ryu but still, that was always what if "Ryu fought like Akuma?" in function.
it needs - X-Men and fan favorite characters - the screen shakes - jacked characters to have their necks - improved the camera angles on hyper combos - ditch the realistic aesthetics the actual game was going for - better cooler stages (with npcs) - and good ass music!
@@meganinten0078 Oh i don't mind the new themes,they are actually not bad. Hell some of the themes from the Capcom side aren't so bad too,I found the themes from the Marvel side to be quite generic.
@@jaysanj152actually spider man's theme in mvci sounds a bit like Sam raimi's spider man opening tune which could be why I like the mvci theme more cause I pretty much grew up with the Sam raimi spider man movies
@@Hillthugsta Personally, I'd have Reed and Ben as playable reps with Sue backing him up with barriers and invisibility to go with his Dhalsim or Necro-esque playstyle. We already got The Thing in Community Edition so we can carry that over to Infinite once possible.
In a perfect world, where we have MvC 4 where it has The X-Men 3V3 battles or mode A huge roster A good art style Screen shake Characters with correct proportions A good story mode where it makes sense Beautiful UI like persona 5, or SSBU for example And costume alt’s magneto has a curly mustache
Listen, Max, this maybe a minor thing. But PLEASE mod in facial reactions during Supers or cinematic attacks, because close up it doesn't even look like characters aren't even in pain, yet they're screaming their heads off! This is my take anyway.
Can only imagine how incredible this will look once all the modding has been done, cause a lot of the gameplay itself is already so much fun, once some stuff is improved and the game looks better and more characters… man. Sad we might not get any new official MvsC stuff, I would hope we would at least get ports of the older games but that’s probably very unlikely.
I do not want a new MVC game after the shit Disney is pulling in their writing on the MCU. Especially after how bad Disney is with Japanese developers when it comes to Marvel games. Looking at you Square Enix Avengers.
@@mrcwillis6970 It's why I don't want a new MVC game and yet people still want one despite the fact that Disney is ruining the MCU with their shit writing. Like, do you guys really want a Marvel vs Capcom game with garbage She-Hulk tier writing? With how some characters are just breaking the fourth wall and basically making an ass of themselves? Like I do NOT want to hear characters like Dante or Tron Bonne say, "Well... that happened" and then a laugh track comes into play in the game.
@@rapture9009 true but I fear that there would be new writers for a brand new MVC game and these new writers would just put some god awful writing that were inspired by the godawful MCU post endgame movies like She Hulk and the Eternals. Hell, we already seen these types of annoying writing with Forspoken with the “Did I just do that? I did that with my freaking mind” joke and Forspoken wasn’t even written by MCU writers but writers that think that dumb joke is funny for the modern era. Spoiler: IT ISN’T
TVC2 would need Tatsunoko on board, but any Versus game would be appreciated - heck, tweak Fighting Jam to have Groove System and all the 2D characters to make it the ultimate CPS-2/3 game so it'd have a cool niche alongside a modern 3D Capcom All-Stars! (:
5:48 THANK YOU I was super worried that they'd listen to people replying with "oh add assists and 3v3" Like at that point, just play marvel 3? Mvci being 2v2 is one of the things I like about it, with active tag, and no assists because I never really liked the assists of 3v3 mvc Tho I did love the assists in mvc1 as those were unique characters
Without turning it into MVC3, here's some ideas for simple presentation things that bugged me: 1) Fix the audio, camera blocking, and pacing for some cinematic supers. There were some supers where you dont know what is going on and the character would take forever to build up and perform the action. And they fill that time with weird dialogue sometimes. Also, fix Venom's voice lol 2) While we are in the topic of Supers, add more team unique team supers like the Bucky and Cap Unyielding Justice Super. Ex. Maybe Thor and Iron Man doing a super charged beam like in Endgame, Ryu and Ken double Hadoken. Cool shit. 3) Have an option to change Marvel Cinematic OST to classic Capcom Vs Themes for Marvel characters. 4) Would it possible to add comic effects in Supers without it being distracring, like in MvC3 where Wolverine would cut the oppomemt and it looks like he's ripping pages out of the comic book. I think that could work well with the artstyle. 5) More Colors and Skins. But what if we do Echo Fighters like in Smash? If you choose the Miles Morales skin for Spider-Man you get Miles' moveset. Zangief skin for Haggar, you get Zangief moveset. I think that could be one way to add new characters into the game without having to make new Character slots. 6) Can we get a better UI? I do not like how lifeless and devoid of character the Lifebars and Super Meter looks like. Everytime I look at the screen it doesnt feel like an arcade game, it feels like a mobile game because how the UI looks. For a game with flashy characters, the game lacks character and personality. Thank god for Gameplay making up for the slack of the visual department. 7) Longshot, but what if we can add every character that has ever been playable as a main character or assist in the game (including bosses). For a game calling itself "Infinite" we got a lackluster amount of characters. Balance be damned, but Id love to see it become true over time.
X having more than 4 specials and being able to use ANY of them in the air would be nice (buster doesn't count). Zero was only in half the amount of games X was, but his arsenal is more than double that of X's. No hate on Zero, I play both characters, I just think they did X dirty. PXZ did X's arsenal fine, I dont know why they fell short here.
I like Dan but he does not match X's voice at all. It's almost as bad as X4 X and it's such a downgrade from Mark Gatha. I get Gatha is retired but Capcom couldn't find anyone with a remotely deep voice for X? Seriously?
@@davidle347 I would've gone with Lowenthal or Diskin instead but they cast Diskin as Nova and therefore according to that stupid rule that says Marvel and Capcom characters can't share voices, he can't be X. (it's why Ash Burch is Chunners and why Brian Bloom reprised Cap instead of RCS) My ideal VA for X that isn't Dr. Gatha would be Lyon Smith but if they can't have his co-worker Alyson Court playing Claire anymore, then there's no chance he'll be playing X ever.
Perhaps Max should get in touch with Doncon and the people that enter his MvCI events like...i think every other week? I think they would have some input that could be worth hearing out since they are actively playing at a...relatively high level I would say.
I hope the first release is just the Visual Update or the Visuals get a standalone release for people who want Vanilla that just looks really dang good. But as for changes I feel like some characters could use adjustments I am just not the person to say what does need adjusting. And if it is at all possible getting the DLC planned characters playable.
"beyond will have a separate gameplay mod with balance changes. this is so gameplay purists can have all of the visual improvements without changing any gameplay" words straight from the person working on the mod on twitter.
We could be like "mwke it mvc3" but honestly id want it to be more of a what if, like if we got a true squeal, hecause those that want v3 would play it anyway, maybe havr this be an entry point for new players
Yeah. I can see Chris and Black Widow doing a Bullet Ballet/Dance, Frank and Rocket making crazy ass weapons, Hawkeye and MH making a even bigger arrow storm and of course X and Zero something similar to they supers from PXZ2
Restore the X-Men and get some new Fantastic Four reps. MvC began with the mutants at the height of X-Men mania in the late 90's/early 2000's, and would not be where it is today in terms of profile without them, and the fact that we got Doctor Doom and Super-Skrull before any Fantastic Four members or even characters like Annihilus from the Marvel side is criminal
To be fair, Blackheart and Shuma-Gorath came before Ghost Rider and Doctor Strange so this sort of thing isn't really new or bad from Capcom as it does show some cool inclusions as well as cool comprises like an all in one fighter based on the F4. That said, give us at least eight to twelve mutants (in terms of official MvC, mods can add as much as they want) and have Mr. Fantastic and/or The Thing as reps with Dr. Doom.
That first one requires so much work to the point where they would just be building the game from scratch. Your better off either passing around the controller or playing 2xko when that comes out bro
For me, Franziska von Karma. She got screwed out of Tatsunoko vs Capcom and a whip fighter from Ace Attorney would be fun to see in MvC. Also Simon Blackquill.
Honestly, focusing on a smaller cast than even MVCI, and just making them as solid and fun as possible. I feel like there's a ton of characters that have passed from 3 to UMVC3 to MVCI with very little change, and they're just kinda *there*
I just hope everyone is able to understand that adding whole new characters won't be easy, even if they choose to do it. It's probably gonna be months by the time Max and Ryn finish what they're already working on, and probably at least a year before we actually get any new characters, if we even get any. I want to see the X-Men and more characters from MvC3 in the game as much as the rest of you, especially Wolverine and MvC2 Jill, but we need to remember to be patient.
SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy has Two players in the same team and it is crazy fun! That game is very underrated and misjudged. SNKH gameplay is a mix of Marvel VS. and Smash Bros. The only complain I have with the game is the roster. So many few characters. I wish SNK makes a sequel of SNK Heroines, with more stages, characters and outfits.
Honestly I hope once the new slots will be possible, the X-Men won't reuse their 90s designs cuz it'd be so out of place next to everyone. For example I'd LOVE Cyclops to rock the magenta Alex Ross look from the books Also giving all characters 1 more alt in the future would also be neat (Chris gets his RE6 look, Spidey gets Ben's Sensational suit, Ghost Rider gets a different incarnation, etc.)
I think adding Legacy Characters(essentially echo fighters) would be pretty cool. Adds characters that wouldn't need too much changed from characters they're based on, while still giving them some unique mechanics & supers. One I'd really like to see is Chuck Greene, with emphasis on combo weapons
One of my favorite things about UMvC3's mods was the addition of "Strider 2099". I think a character like that really pushes the idea of the crossover forward, and I think that's where a lot this game's identity could be found to distinguish itself from MvC3. Like, a Maverick Hunter alt for Monster Hunter, or Edward "Falcon", Red "Earth" Hulk. Just fun crossover ideas that push X-Gard and Valkanda even further.
Something I didn't realize sooner that was fucking up my execution was having negative edge while also being able to cancel normals on whiff, so sometimes I would input the special too soon and it would come out on the wrong button.
Honestly I think a lot of people are asking for too much from this mod in the comments especially with the focus on gameplay changes seen in this vid. There are some genuine suggestions but I think focusing on game feel comes first then little things like animation tweaks etc. Obviously I think that balance should be left as is even despite its issues as that's tradition within mods for games. UMVC3 or Melee are two prime candidates for rebalance but generally that is frowned upon since the changes are a very personal opinion thing and can lead to unforeseen consequences (good examples would be SF2 HD Remix and that one romhack for 3S) One thing I think the mod should have by default though is include the voice modulator as it should be for Venom.
Personal Wishlist: - More camera shake - Give VENOM green saliva - Add more color pallettes - Add Comic book VFXs - Tag Team Lvl 3s - Give the lifebar UI a umvc3 aesthetic - Replace the stage music with MVC1-3
-Air normals never cause proximity guard -Pushblock adjusts with moves hitstop and protects you from high/lows better -Pushblocking projectiles moves the opponent back unless they switch -proximity guard on the ground for up close ranges, makes it so upbacking is punished by lows - back dashing doesn't block highs unless you up back -remove buffer on tech state those would be my biggest changes, game has so much potential to be sick
One thing I really think would improve the style of the game is better differentiation between the 'male' model frames. I can accept Cap having giant shoulder nodules, and I can reasonably accept, for example, Chris Redfield or Spencer having a model somewhat close to that. But Frank West should not be the same size as Cap, and Spidey should not be the same size as Cap. Spidey is strong, but he's not a bodybuilder. And Frank West has covered wars, ya know, but he didn't go to the STARS Proving Ground or anything nuts like that.
Mega Man X's moveset needs changing. I made an entire document detailing the changes back then. It included, (1) Mobile charge (2) More special moves (3) Charged Specials for complete alt versions during Armor mode (4) Nova Strike Lvl 3 is full screen dash to connect into the animation. (5) Others but the first 4 take priority. I am willing to discuss both that plus share that document I had.
I think the stages need more life and activity in the background. A better soundtrack would help, too. MvC2 feels very lively and I crave that feeling again.
After seeing your Collab with Modding MvCI for awhile I might considering of changing my Perspective of this game. It’s kinda great that everybody is giving this Game a Second Chance despite it’s Flaws. Although it’s still only a PC Mod and DOESN’T Fix the Cringy Story of this Game!
The Marvel vs. Capcom Infinity released in Japan was only available in English dubbed version, and none of the characters spoke Japanese. Of course, sales in Japan were poor. （日本で発売されたMARVELvsCAPCOM Infinityは全編英語吹き替え版でどのキャラクターも日本語を喋る事はありませんでした。勿論、日本では全く売れませんでした。）
Did not know that, but I am not surprised. Capcom seem like they didn't want to spend any money on the game, so they probably thought "Everyone knows Marvel are western comics, they don't need Japanese dubs", even though I think the movies do have japanese dub-voices? Though those probably would have cost a lot more than Capcom wanted to spend on this game...
@@goranisacson2502Historically the Versus games have had Marvel characters voiced in English only. Having the Capcom characters also be English only is a weird choice, though, especially since all of Capcom's other modern fighting games have dual audio.
For someone who likes Fighting games, I'm surprised you haven't checked out Marvel Contest of Champions, it's a mobile game but way worth checking out. I've played it for 9 years.
You pretty much touched on my main gripes with the game. Proximity blocking, inputs during super freeze, and reworking mobility/tags. The only thing I would add is reworking chip damage as well!
One thing that bugged me always: The VFX. It's not enough oomph. It may be other factors too, but it always felt like it went through like a hot knife through butter instead of having any weight.
I'm making a fighting game rpg. I'm using your videos as data. Your videos about what u like and don't like about fighting games the data is being used to try to make a good versus mode so thanks for making these alot of useful information for developers
Blue-sky concept: turn the stones into system-changing meters. Imagine if there was one item that gave you something like X-factor, one that gave you an SF4 Focus Attack, one that straight up gives you the Royal Guard style from DMC, and so on.
Mod kits have improved and you can adjust stuff at a much deeper level. Max has always loved this game but now with better mods this game has a chance to actually be revived
5 days ago a modder named Ryn made a modding tool for MvCI and started making some cel shaded mods, Max saw it and is now working with her (and some other, unnamed folks) to completely overhaul the game.
Personal list of small changes: hit sound effects should be weightier and more impactful, slightly more hit stop, reduce/remove glow from hit sparks to match the comic esthetic, shorten the length of slow-mo in death animations.
I think they could have had some sort of cooldown on how much youncould proceed when being push blocked. Like if youre being pushed back during your a lock down super attempt you should not be able to keep advancing.
If y'all can get some passionate fans that make music then maybe y'all need to make remixes of the marvel character's themes from previous games since they MCUified all the marvel themes for some dumb reason Capcom can stay somewhat untouched cus for example, sigma has a fantastic theme
I'd say the stages need more life to them. Original MVCI stages just feel so -dead-. Empty backgrounds, no characters, level doesn't react to attacks, etc.
I know this is like waaaaaaaayyyyy down the line, but will you give any focus to the Story Mode or just keep it the same? I know the Story Mode is just blah and not worth considering, but if the art style is going to be this way for regular matches, maybe before each match in the Story Mode, you can do like a comic book "page flip / wipe" and layer on the new visuals before the match begins...and then once it ends, you can "flip the page" back and go back the regular visuals for story cutscenes and such. Unless you were going to redesign the entire mode.
So my main issue is some small stuff - Proxy Guard needs to go - Screen shake - Better UI - Characters with glowing neutral stances need to pop a bit more, make the glow a bit brighter - Buff Black Panther PLEASE
Any game with regular / prolific touch of death combos need a burst. It should be its own meter or use all four special bars, so it's not spammed like TvC's burst
One of the things the visuals of the super specials if are compared to the ones of MvC3 they were worsened. Example the one from Ghost Rider penance stare and Mike Haggard also the one from Sigma just don't feel like nothing stetic from Megaman X.
Игры
●X-Men
●Screen shake
●Adjusted camera angles on hyper combos
●Get rid of photorealistic aesthetics
●Give muscular characters _necks_
Yes
*Replace the entire Captain America with MUA 3 Captain America's model or something that at least looks human
@@TheDevilDucker YES PLEASE FIX MY BOY HE NEEDS HELP.
Option to turn off tag flash or at least lessen it so it doesn't flash bang a portion of your screen.
I enjoy the game but for some reason, that flash throws me off. Other flashes doesn't just that one.
The xmen not being present, wasnt that due to some issues with marvel and the xmen liscense?
It's not Marvel vs. without X-Men
Especially since they're the whole reason the series started to begin with.
The X-Men are why we have MvC in the first place
@@notimportant3033 Blade Too
Jesus Christ the x-men aren’t all that hot shit. Marvel isn’t just them. Every game doesn’t need to include them.
@@jennifergriel861 I mean that is a fair opinion. But the fact they don't have ANY of them in this roster is kinda criminal.
It's a missed opportunity by Capcom to include a "power stone" character in this game
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of people talk about their grievances with the Marvel roster in this game, but the Capcom roster is also equally disappointing.
@@feathermanr7577 We wanted Asura.
The game discarded the principle of showcasing characters who are D-List and Z-List as well as A-List.
@@HydrogueThey want "function" characters only 😂
@@Khann_2102And even then, their choices for functions were overall meh especially given the copy and paste roster and how received those guys were compared to the pre-MvC3 rosters.
Considering the success of X-Men 97, the mutants need to be there!
I guess X-Men 97 was greenlit because of the PR fiasco of "characters are just functions", that exposed how bad were the X-Men treated by Marvel because of the MCU.
If Marvel keeps the ball rolling with X-Men 97, a new MvC official game is a no brainer.
@@NegoClauX-Men and fantastic four
@@NegoClau I'm pretty sure Sony owned the rights to X-Men when MvCI came out, not Marvel (or Disney). Marvel only recently re-acquired them.
@@LeonardoSilva-xm8ft the Fantastic 4 is more of a FOX flavored MCU. And I like the way those characters were portrayed.
That's kinda why Chris Evans never convinced me as the serious stern Captain America, because he was the goofy playful Human Torch to me.
I wish Capcom incorporated the Fantastic 4 in a 90's fighting game, like they did to the X-Men.
@@strayfoxdesigns 20th Century Fox owned X-Men (and Fantastic Four). Sony only owns Spider-Man.
... Yeah, keep MVCI should be a different flavor than UMVC3. UMVC3 is getting it's own mods and is amazing and this should be it's own thing so we have different things to enjoy.
Like a lemon flavor?
@@ChaosTx I mean, Lemon Maringue.
Top priority: Visuals. Core of the project, right there. Should include the bosses too.
High priority: Music. Fighting games normally have great music, and the fact that MvCI has tracks - remixed tracks, no less - that I'd call bad is a crime.
High-medium priority: Mechanical tweaks like what Max proposed here. Just broad stuff for now.
Medium priority: Character importer and expanded slots. Get the missing UMvC3 cast in here pronto, with rebalancing later. A solution for bringing its mods in would be cool eventually, but that's a lot of heckin' work. Sounds like this may be happening already, but through a different modder.
Moderate priority: Battle Without the Stones. Adding three-person teams to MvCI is absurd and unnecessary given how its tags work, but a mode/groove with Infinity Stones turned off would be simple and potentially interesting.
Moderate priority: Complementing that, adding a mode with assists, but only when one character is KO'd like 2XKO's comeback mechanic. I cannot stress enough how important retaining MvCI's tag system is.
Low priority: Original new character mods. Low because, frankly, there's no dragging away UMvC3's community at this point, and I'd like to see 'em finish that Community Edition.
the weird part is that the Credits have an MCUfied version of Spidey's original theme & honestly works, Ghost Rider's MvC:I theme is better, & honestly the Capcom Character remixes aren't bad art all... but tastes are different so at least a toggle/option on the mod loader would be neat
nah, replacing the Stones with a third character is just UMvC3 & at that point might as well just play modded Marvel 3
Visuals: Totally agree.
Music: Personally, I'd leave the Infinite newcomer themes untouched. Everyone else can get different themes though if they end up being original tunes, PLEASE remix OTHER themes for the characters. Again personally, it'd be cooler to remix some of the previous MvC tunes as character or stage themes.
Character Importer: Yes please. Maybe we can figure out how to add more stages in the future.
Stones: Yeah, I'd go for a stone less groove. Though I'd also go for an unlockable Gauntlet groove that, hear me out, felt like SFxT's Pandora Mode done right.
X vs Zero BGM with movie orchestra aesthetic but only arranged the intro part is obviously out of mind. It's like removed the reason why X fight Zero in the first place
Add Akuma. It's a crime that he isn't in in one way shape or form.
At least he and Wolverine can join the "lack of presence in all of MvC" club.
Granted, Akuma wasn't in MvC1 and we had Evil Ryu but still, that was always what if "Ryu fought like Akuma?" in function.
If we do get some new characters M Bison would be awesome!
@@John4th4n99he was in MvC2
it needs
- X-Men and fan favorite characters
- the screen shakes
- jacked characters to have their necks
- improved the camera angles on hyper combos
- ditch the realistic aesthetics the actual game was going for
- better cooler stages (with npcs)
- and good ass music!
Marvel Vs Capcom: Infinity Beyond is a sick name.
Buzz lightyear confirmed.
@@theotherjared9824 God, I hope
Beyond infinite
it's a buzz lightyear name
First things First
Swap the Generic characters theme with their iconic themes.
That alone would put the game to a tolerable state.
Or at least an orchestra style of their classic themes
...I do actually like Jedah's theme in MVCI 😢
Some tracks of MVCI are good
@@meganinten0078 Oh i don't mind the new themes,they are actually not bad.
Hell some of the themes from the Capcom side aren't so bad too,I found the themes from the Marvel side to be quite generic.
@@jaysanj152actually spider man's theme in mvci sounds a bit like Sam raimi's spider man opening tune which could be why I like the mvci theme more cause I pretty much grew up with the Sam raimi spider man movies
Add X-Men and Fantastic Four characters.
"I am Magneto, master of magnets!"
@@Dracobyte"Come, X-Chicken"
I'm glad someone else mentioned the F4. Its a shame they never represented themselves.
@@Hillthugsta Personally, I'd have Reed and Ben as playable reps with Sue backing him up with barriers and invisibility to go with his Dhalsim or Necro-esque playstyle. We already got The Thing in Community Edition so we can carry that over to Infinite once possible.
@@dnmstarsi I just have Reed play like Captain Commando with the other three used for specials/assists.
I mostly just want the characters to not look horrible, but I appreciate the mechanics getting some love.
In a perfect world, where we have MvC 4 where it has
The X-Men
3V3 battles or mode
A huge roster
A good art style
Screen shake
Characters with correct proportions
A good story mode where it makes sense
Beautiful UI like persona 5, or SSBU for example
And costume alt’s magneto has a curly mustache
Listen, Max, this maybe a minor thing. But PLEASE mod in facial reactions during Supers or cinematic attacks, because close up it doesn't even look like characters aren't even in pain, yet they're screaming their heads off! This is my take anyway.
For me usf4 has the best faces when getting hit with a ultra lol
Especially blanka 😂 @@sargetyu
Can only imagine how incredible this will look once all the modding has been done, cause a lot of the gameplay itself is already so much fun, once some stuff is improved and the game looks better and more characters… man. Sad we might not get any new official MvsC stuff, I would hope we would at least get ports of the older games but that’s probably very unlikely.
I do not want a new MVC game after the shit Disney is pulling in their writing on the MCU. Especially after how bad Disney is with Japanese developers when it comes to Marvel games. Looking at you Square Enix Avengers.
@@dee_dee4640 yeah… good point actually. The chances of it being good and what people want would be low.
@@mrcwillis6970 It's why I don't want a new MVC game and yet people still want one despite the fact that Disney is ruining the MCU with their shit writing. Like, do you guys really want a Marvel vs Capcom game with garbage She-Hulk tier writing? With how some characters are just breaking the fourth wall and basically making an ass of themselves? Like I do NOT want to hear characters like Dante or Tron Bonne say, "Well... that happened" and then a laugh track comes into play in the game.
@@dee_dee4640 To be fair I doubt that writers from the MCU would be involved in writing stuff in a new game if it becomes real
@@rapture9009 true but I fear that there would be new writers for a brand new MVC game and these new writers would just put some god awful writing that were inspired by the godawful MCU post endgame movies like She Hulk and the Eternals. Hell, we already seen these types of annoying writing with Forspoken with the “Did I just do that? I did that with my freaking mind” joke and Forspoken wasn’t even written by MCU writers but writers that think that dumb joke is funny for the modern era. Spoiler: IT ISN’T
Capcom should bite the bullet and bring back Tatsunoko or make a modern Capcom All Stars Vs.
TVC2 would need Tatsunoko on board, but any Versus game would be appreciated - heck, tweak Fighting Jam to have Groove System and all the 2D characters to make it the ultimate CPS-2/3 game so it'd have a cool niche alongside a modern 3D Capcom All-Stars! (:
5:48 THANK YOU
I was super worried that they'd listen to people replying with "oh add assists and 3v3"
Like at that point, just play marvel 3?
Mvci being 2v2 is one of the things I like about it, with active tag, and no assists because I never really liked the assists of 3v3 mvc
Tho I did love the assists in mvc1 as those were unique characters
Am I the only one that hated X factor in MVc3 which is my only issue with that game....
@@hta3ci Everyone hates X-Factor. It's the patriarch of the "shitty comeback mechanic" dynasty.
Not to mention, a lot of games use that template
I struggled to like the assists as well to the point I didn't use them a lot, though I still love the game
@@hta3ciI don't usually hear this take, why do you hate the x factor (genuine question)
Without turning it into MVC3, here's some ideas for simple presentation things that bugged me:
1) Fix the audio, camera blocking, and pacing for some cinematic supers. There were some supers where you dont know what is going on and the character would take forever to build up and perform the action. And they fill that time with weird dialogue sometimes. Also, fix Venom's voice lol
2) While we are in the topic of Supers, add more team unique team supers like the Bucky and Cap Unyielding Justice Super. Ex. Maybe Thor and Iron Man doing a super charged beam like in Endgame, Ryu and Ken double Hadoken. Cool shit.
3) Have an option to change Marvel Cinematic OST to classic Capcom Vs Themes for Marvel characters.
4) Would it possible to add comic effects in Supers without it being distracring, like in MvC3 where Wolverine would cut the oppomemt and it looks like he's ripping pages out of the comic book. I think that could work well with the artstyle.
5) More Colors and Skins. But what if we do Echo Fighters like in Smash? If you choose the Miles Morales skin for Spider-Man you get Miles' moveset. Zangief skin for Haggar, you get Zangief moveset. I think that could be one way to add new characters into the game without having to make new Character slots.
6) Can we get a better UI? I do not like how lifeless and devoid of character the Lifebars and Super Meter looks like. Everytime I look at the screen it doesnt feel like an arcade game, it feels like a mobile game because how the UI looks. For a game with flashy characters, the game lacks character and personality. Thank god for Gameplay making up for the slack of the visual department.
7) Longshot, but what if we can add every character that has ever been playable as a main character or assist in the game (including bosses). For a game calling itself "Infinite" we got a lackluster amount of characters. Balance be damned, but Id love to see it become true over time.
X having more than 4 specials and being able to use ANY of them in the air would be nice (buster doesn't count). Zero was only in half the amount of games X was, but his arsenal is more than double that of X's. No hate on Zero, I play both characters, I just think they did X dirty. PXZ did X's arsenal fine, I dont know why they fell short here.
I agree, deadass
bro also deserves a better voice than Dan fuckin' Hibiki.
Remember Bakugan?
Remember Masquerade?
His VA would make a killer X
@@dcb99filmzwait... did you...? Did you just disrespect Dan the man?
I like Dan but he does not match X's voice at all. It's almost as bad as X4 X and it's such a downgrade from Mark Gatha. I get Gatha is retired but Capcom couldn't find anyone with a remotely deep voice for X? Seriously?
@@davidle347 I would've gone with Lowenthal or Diskin instead but they cast Diskin as Nova and therefore according to that stupid rule that says Marvel and Capcom characters can't share voices, he can't be X. (it's why Ash Burch is Chunners and why Brian Bloom reprised Cap instead of RCS)
My ideal VA for X that isn't Dr. Gatha would be Lyon Smith but if they can't have his co-worker Alyson Court playing Claire anymore, then there's no chance he'll be playing X ever.
Please restore the dynamic camera and such for Ghost Rider's LVL 3.
The whole "Look into my eyes!" super just looks so bland in Infinite.
Perhaps Max should get in touch with Doncon and the people that enter his MvCI events like...i think every other week? I think they would have some input that could be worth hearing out since they are actively playing at a...relatively high level I would say.
Gotta change the marvel characters themes and make cap look cool
I hope the first release is just the Visual Update or the Visuals get a standalone release for people who want Vanilla that just looks really dang good. But as for changes I feel like some characters could use adjustments I am just not the person to say what does need adjusting. And if it is at all possible getting the DLC planned characters playable.
"beyond will have a separate gameplay mod with balance changes. this is so gameplay purists can have all of the visual improvements without changing any gameplay"
words straight from the person working on the mod on twitter.
I don't know how I feel about adding plinkdashing. I feel like that just adds a lot of excessive inputs, and takes away accessibility.
I wish max would just make / spearhead his own fighter from the ground up entirely.. would just love to see what that would turn out to be.
We could be like "mwke it mvc3" but honestly id want it to be more of a what if, like if we got a true squeal, hecause those that want v3 would play it anyway, maybe havr this be an entry point for new players
Especially since MvC3 is already having its own modding boom
Give every character special level 3 team attacks like Cap and Bucky
Yeah. I can see Chris and Black Widow doing a Bullet Ballet/Dance, Frank and Rocket making crazy ass weapons, Hawkeye and MH making a even bigger arrow storm and of course X and Zero something similar to they supers from PXZ2
@@gamemax1049 yes also Ryu and Chunli, Strider and Gamora, Morrigan and Ghost Rider for eg
@@gamemax1049 People remember X Zone 2?
I dug out my 3DS last week to replay some old stuff, and that was one of them.
Wild to see it mentioned.
Restore the X-Men and get some new Fantastic Four reps. MvC began with the mutants at the height of X-Men mania in the late 90's/early 2000's, and would not be where it is today in terms of profile without them, and the fact that we got Doctor Doom and Super-Skrull before any Fantastic Four members or even characters like Annihilus from the Marvel side is criminal
To be fair, Blackheart and Shuma-Gorath came before Ghost Rider and Doctor Strange so this sort of thing isn't really new or bad from Capcom as it does show some cool inclusions as well as cool comprises like an all in one fighter based on the F4.
That said, give us at least eight to twelve mutants (in terms of official MvC, mods can add as much as they want) and have Mr. Fantastic and/or The Thing as reps with Dr. Doom.
2 on 2 (4 players)
Infinity Gems vs Power Stones
Jedah animations have actual blood
Add X-Men and Darkstalkers
That first one requires so much work to the point where they would just be building the game from scratch. Your better off either passing around the controller or playing 2xko when that comes out bro
Phoenix Wright in the game.
Please. It’s all I ask 😭
Phoenix Wright is slightly underrated, except when finding the clues goes bad.
YEASSSSSS
Or even Apollo Justice ngl
@@Starcutter Apollo would work well given Trucy backing him up with her magic and Mr. Hat.
For me, Franziska von Karma. She got screwed out of Tatsunoko vs Capcom and a whip fighter from Ace Attorney would be fun to see in MvC.
Also Simon Blackquill.
Honestly, focusing on a smaller cast than even MVCI, and just making them as solid and fun as possible. I feel like there's a ton of characters that have passed from 3 to UMVC3 to MVCI with very little change, and they're just kinda *there*
Max is gonna turn this game into the next Project M
I just hope everyone is able to understand that adding whole new characters won't be easy, even if they choose to do it. It's probably gonna be months by the time Max and Ryn finish what they're already working on, and probably at least a year before we actually get any new characters, if we even get any. I want to see the X-Men and more characters from MvC3 in the game as much as the rest of you, especially Wolverine and MvC2 Jill, but we need to remember to be patient.
I am happy seeing these updates on the process of the games "BEYOND" update
SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy has Two players in the same team and it is crazy fun!
That game is very underrated and misjudged.
SNKH gameplay is a mix of Marvel VS. and Smash Bros.
The only complain I have with the game is the roster. So many few characters.
I wish SNK makes a sequel of SNK Heroines, with more stages, characters and outfits.
Honestly I hope once the new slots will be possible, the X-Men won't reuse their 90s designs cuz it'd be so out of place next to everyone. For example I'd LOVE Cyclops to rock the magenta Alex Ross look from the books
Also giving all characters 1 more alt in the future would also be neat (Chris gets his RE6 look, Spidey gets Ben's Sensational suit, Ghost Rider gets a different incarnation, etc.)
I think adding Legacy Characters(essentially echo fighters) would be pretty cool. Adds characters that wouldn't need too much changed from characters they're based on, while still giving them some unique mechanics & supers. One I'd really like to see is Chuck Greene, with emphasis on combo weapons
Giant Characters like in Tatsunoko vs Capcom
Apocalypse and Devilot/Super-8 for our (first) giant characters.
One of my favorite things about UMvC3's mods was the addition of "Strider 2099". I think a character like that really pushes the idea of the crossover forward, and I think that's where a lot this game's identity could be found to distinguish itself from MvC3. Like, a Maverick Hunter alt for Monster Hunter, or Edward "Falcon", Red "Earth" Hulk. Just fun crossover ideas that push X-Gard and Valkanda even further.
Something I didn't realize sooner that was fucking up my execution was having negative edge while also being able to cancel normals on whiff, so sometimes I would input the special too soon and it would come out on the wrong button.
Honestly I think a lot of people are asking for too much from this mod in the comments especially with the focus on gameplay changes seen in this vid. There are some genuine suggestions but I think focusing on game feel comes first then little things like animation tweaks etc.
Obviously I think that balance should be left as is even despite its issues as that's tradition within mods for games. UMVC3 or Melee are two prime candidates for rebalance but generally that is frowned upon since the changes are a very personal opinion thing and can lead to unforeseen consequences (good examples would be SF2 HD Remix and that one romhack for 3S)
One thing I think the mod should have by default though is include the voice modulator as it should be for Venom.
Personal Wishlist:
- More camera shake
- Give VENOM green saliva
- Add more color pallettes
- Add Comic book VFXs
- Tag Team Lvl 3s
- Give the lifebar UI
a umvc3 aesthetic
- Replace the stage
music with MVC1-3
Tag team lvl 3s are a good idea, they only do this with cap and bucky and having more wouod make sense as we have a lot of duo charcters
Very excited to see where this project goes.
The music. The sound effects
-Air normals never cause proximity guard
-Pushblock adjusts with moves hitstop and protects you from high/lows better
-Pushblocking projectiles moves the opponent back unless they switch
-proximity guard on the ground for up close ranges, makes it so upbacking is punished by lows
- back dashing doesn't block highs unless you up back
-remove buffer on tech state
those would be my biggest changes, game has so much potential to be sick
One thing I really think would improve the style of the game is better differentiation between the 'male' model frames. I can accept Cap having giant shoulder nodules, and I can reasonably accept, for example, Chris Redfield or Spencer having a model somewhat close to that. But Frank West should not be the same size as Cap, and Spidey should not be the same size as Cap. Spidey is strong, but he's not a bodybuilder. And Frank West has covered wars, ya know, but he didn't go to the STARS Proving Ground or anything nuts like that.
If you’re worried about the background losing definition, you can probably use Kirby dots in the back to make it look more comic book style too
Besides the X-Men being added to it and balance changes, I would like to see character endings for each character for Arcade Mode.
Mega Man X's moveset needs changing. I made an entire document detailing the changes back then. It included, (1) Mobile charge (2) More special moves (3) Charged Specials for complete alt versions during Armor mode (4) Nova Strike Lvl 3 is full screen dash to connect into the animation. (5) Others but the first 4 take priority. I am willing to discuss both that plus share that document I had.
Great!
I think the stages need more life and activity in the background. A better soundtrack would help, too. MvC2 feels very lively and I crave that feeling again.
After seeing your Collab with Modding MvCI for awhile I might considering of changing my Perspective of this game.
It’s kinda great that everybody is giving this Game a Second Chance despite it’s Flaws. Although it’s still only a PC Mod and DOESN’T Fix the Cringy Story of this Game!
The Marvel vs. Capcom Infinity released in Japan was only available in English dubbed version, and none of the characters spoke Japanese. Of course, sales in Japan were poor.
（日本で発売されたMARVELvsCAPCOM Infinityは全編英語吹き替え版でどのキャラクターも日本語を喋る事はありませんでした。勿論、日本では全く売れませんでした。）
Did not know that, but I am not surprised. Capcom seem like they didn't want to spend any money on the game, so they probably thought "Everyone knows Marvel are western comics, they don't need Japanese dubs", even though I think the movies do have japanese dub-voices? Though those probably would have cost a lot more than Capcom wanted to spend on this game...
@@goranisacson2502Historically the Versus games have had Marvel characters voiced in English only. Having the Capcom characters also be English only is a weird choice, though, especially since all of Capcom's other modern fighting games have dual audio.
Magneto needs a unique line against X-Men characters where he calls them "X-Chicken"
For someone who likes Fighting games, I'm surprised you haven't checked out Marvel Contest of Champions, it's a mobile game but way worth checking out. I've played it for 9 years.
damn those beeps!
If MvCi had X-men in it, a lot more people would have given it a chance. I didn't love the roster myself, but the game was fun to play.
Carnage, Wolverine, magneto, and some Darkstalkers characters needs to be in there
You pretty much touched on my main gripes with the game. Proximity blocking, inputs during super freeze, and reworking mobility/tags.
The only thing I would add is reworking chip damage as well!
Really hope this can happen
Max's "Let's get this done" brain is such a amazing thing to watch in action.
Vergil and Wesker (and mutants, obviously)
One thing that bugged me always: The VFX. It's not enough oomph. It may be other factors too, but it always felt like it went through like a hot knife through butter instead of having any weight.
I'm making a fighting game rpg. I'm using your videos as data. Your videos about what u like and don't like about fighting games the data is being used to try to make a good versus mode so thanks for making these alot of useful information for developers
Endings for each character would be nice. Even if it's a wall of text.
First few seconds and we on the same fuckin page. I love it lol.
Max might just do to MvC:I what Laithe kinda just did to Imperator Rime only he’s also making the crazy mod and I’m all for it.
Blue-sky concept: turn the stones into system-changing meters. Imagine if there was one item that gave you something like X-factor, one that gave you an SF4 Focus Attack, one that straight up gives you the Royal Guard style from DMC, and so on.
what if tag took elements from Battle for the grid?
The snappiness and such felt really good to control and read.
Hopefully you gain with the new artstyle but can keep some more of the fidelity tbh. And yeah new fighters and maybe stages lol..
Just make MVCI a better Marvel 3. That's all I ask for.
I'd rather mvci stays as it's own unique game, just play marvel 3 at that rate.
You're never gonna get anywhere trying to chase Marvel 3. It's better off becoming its own thing.
I mean, with modding for both of them out there, let them both be different and let us have both Coca-Cola and Mountain Dew.
Just go play marvel 3 bruh
What do you consider a better game than MvC 3?
I hope you can add Strider (2009) costume with a better model
What if you overhaul the stones, or add more?
I'm a little OOTL, can someone explain the sudden interest back in MvCI?
Mod kits have improved and you can adjust stuff at a much deeper level. Max has always loved this game but now with better mods this game has a chance to actually be revived
He hired some modders to make MVCi a pretty game
Or at least decent
5 days ago a modder named Ryn made a modding tool for MvCI and started making some cel shaded mods, Max saw it and is now working with her (and some other, unnamed folks) to completely overhaul the game.
Personal list of small changes: hit sound effects should be weightier and more impactful, slightly more hit stop, reduce/remove glow from hit sparks to match the comic esthetic, shorten the length of slow-mo in death animations.
Hell yeah Max !
Getting me hyped for MvC:I, a game i more or less scrapped week 1.
LEZZ GOOOOO
Tibazz
This is a dangerous question to ask.
🔥🔥🔥
I think they could have had some sort of cooldown on how much youncould proceed when being push blocked. Like if youre being pushed back during your a lock down super attempt you should not be able to keep advancing.
I may need to give the game a try on Steam. I played the demo on Xbox and had a decent time. Id probably wait for a sale tho.
God i have never done any modded games before but this is going to make me. Loved the game and sad they gave up. Max the hero we need
Max is practically making the next MVC
Seriously, just make it look SICK and that’s a very strong start.
Max starts off the video with the one thing I'm baffled wasn't in the release of the game. I would love to revisit this game with 2 vs 2.
X-Men we all know that animation kinda felt on some supers I think
Blade would be sick
ok max un convinced me to play marvel vs capcom infinte
Max stays doing the most for the FGC. This is awesome stuff!
I got this game recently and the tag combo system is actually cool and fun. Too bad it didn't get its due at the time but maybe max will fix that
MUSIC AND SFX! Please the music and SFX!
Needs those mvc1 vibes
Max put on the X-Men shirt for this
If y'all can get some passionate fans that make music then maybe y'all need to make remixes of the marvel character's themes from previous games since they MCUified all the marvel themes for some dumb reason
Capcom can stay somewhat untouched cus for example, sigma has a fantastic theme
MAKE THE SUPERS ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE THEY HIT HARD
I'd say the stages need more life to them. Original MVCI stages just feel so -dead-. Empty backgrounds, no characters, level doesn't react to attacks, etc.
I know this is like waaaaaaaayyyyy down the line, but will you give any focus to the Story Mode or just keep it the same? I know the Story Mode is just blah and not worth considering, but if the art style is going to be this way for regular matches, maybe before each match in the Story Mode, you can do like a comic book "page flip / wipe" and layer on the new visuals before the match begins...and then once it ends, you can "flip the page" back and go back the regular visuals for story cutscenes and such. Unless you were going to redesign the entire mode.
So my main issue is some small stuff
- Proxy Guard needs to go
- Screen shake
- Better UI
- Characters with glowing neutral stances need to pop a bit more, make the glow a bit brighter
- Buff Black Panther PLEASE
Any game with regular / prolific touch of death combos need a burst. It should be its own meter or use all four special bars, so it's not spammed like TvC's burst
One of the things the visuals of the super specials if are compared to the ones of MvC3 they were worsened.
Example the one from Ghost Rider penance stare and Mike Haggard also the one from Sigma just don't feel like nothing stetic from Megaman X.
I love seeing Max using his fighting game knowledge to slowly finding himself in some sort of game director position in a game project.
Yes 0:11