Ford Is Going BONKERS with This Ranger Raptor & Bronco Raptor Factory TUNE!
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
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Full factory warranty, its a no brainer. Already the top dog in this segment. This will only increase the gap. Can't wait for the review and testing.
@@nm-qt2hb except for the fuel economy
Top dog? LOL..says who? You the fan boy? What else can they offer besides HP? Cuz both the GM and Toyota trucks have more capabilities than your desert runner with steps..
@@TREVORJB101 More capability? How so? Tell us what the GM and Toyota trucks can do and do better than this I guarantee you can't....
@@TREVORJB101
The GM with the 35s is a slow dog. They went cheap and never did gears. The Toyota has no front locker.
Raptor is the top dog. The GM is the slow dog. The way the new Toyota breaks, it's a junkyard dog.
😮@TREVORJB101 they are all nice trucks, especially the zr2 value.
I'm crushing on that Ranger Raptor but my wallet is saying "why do you hate me".
Dont bother, if you go over the speed limit Ford will snitch on you
Good One!🤣😂
I was too until I saw that my local dealers want 10k over msrp for a raptor ranger. I'll stick with my 2019 3.5 ecoboost f150 for now.
@@rovidbouski4022 Not yet, It's something are working on but you should be good unless you use one of those insurance APPs
Ranger Raptor , truck of the year . Hell yeah brother .
Ford’s North America Product Communications director indicated a similar tune is coming for the Gen3 F150 Raptor. Personally, I can’t wait.
Where did you see this?
@@MtnPilot Seems like Mike Levine responded to someone's question on Instagram saying "stay tuned" when asked about tunes for the F-150 Raptor. Could be nothing as that is pretty standard PR speak.
Ordered my tune today From Ford performance dealer Lethal Performance $695 free shipping and this weekend they have a 10% off site wide deal coupon code LABOR.
I paid 625.50 total for the tune and it come pre loaded in for diagnostic tool.
You can tune the 21-22 raptor’s not the newest ones, I have had 2 Gen2s (current DD is a 2020 F150 Raptor) I wouldn’t drive one w/o being tuned anymore, they’re right, you gain 80-120hp just w/ a tune
3 year 36,000 powertrain warranty after the tune is good, but you have 5 year 60,000 powertrain warranty on the original tune. So for most people on a 5 or 6 year loan, you might consider selling when the 36 months are up. That engine ain't gonna be cheap to replace when it blows.
Couldn’t you just revert the tune after 3/36 if you really wanted to be safe? It’d be hard/impossible for them to blame the tune for subsequent damage if you didn’t have it tuned anymore.
@nismo370z4 Why are you assuming the engine will blow? I've been running a Stage 4 93 Octane Livernois Motorsport tune on my 2020 Explorer ST a few months after I bought it (same engine in the Bronco & Ranger Raptors). I drive my truck like I stole it, and almost everyone likes to TRY and size me up until they're breathing in my exhaust fumes. I'm over 4 years now with my tune and I have ZERO issues with the powertrain in my truck. And Livernois' tunes are more aggressive than Ford's tune. For example, it's Dyno'd at 410HP & 475TQ at the wheels! Ford didn't specify if their power is at the crank or the wheels. I will pass on this Ford Performance tune for my Ranger Raptor, and will wait on Livernois to see what their performance numbers are. You need to worry about your Nissan, as those vehicles in this day and age are pure GARBAGE!!
@@JobrofoshoNo. Once the computer has the new tune uploaded, it's something you can unload but it leaves in the history you can't erase.
@@DalHarpJrtypical guy who just assumes it will have issues because he has assumptions. Of course it'll be expensive to replace but so is pretty much everything these days. I'd hate to know what an Ecodiesel or six cylinder Duramax costs to replace.
@@302Mustang13 Right, but how can you blame a tune if it’s been uninstalled? Any warranty claim that’s rejected due to another unapproved part-the burden is on the dealer to show that the part caused the problem. If you removed the tune, that would be a tough case to make. Regardless of whether they knew it was once tuned in the past.
And this is on the stock garbage intercooler too. Put an AM on it and they will run like a gem.
My god. I cant wait to put this in my RR.
I had this done to my Focus ST, I gained only 30-40 HP but gained 90 tourqe. The only issue is, you have to use 91 and above. You lose the option to use 87 octain. Also my fuel economy went up, so I guess it evens out? These tunes are made by Ford Performance, they have been around for years.
My brother and I both ordered a ranger raptor about a month ago I am excited to get this tune.
My Raptor has been in the shop for a month already, might as well tell them to get this tune added lol
Details? Defects?
@@ScottieDawg333 Sorry, just saw this. The main instrument cluster failed about a month after I purchased it and it’s been the shop since. They have no ETA on fix or an IC replacement
I'm a little confused, I was under the impression that the 10R60 tranny that's in both the Bronco and Ranger Raptor's was only torque rated for 443 ft-lbs. This new torque rating of 536ft-lbs pushes this into 10R80 category of a max 580 ft-lbs. This seems sketchy to me unless they've recently "uprated" these transmissions, and if so, what was changed? Sounds really cool though, looking forward to seeing this.
The 10R60 has been running in Explorer ST’s with full boltons and E85 tunes pushing out 600+ whp. I think they are pretty stout
@@Jay-me7gw sure but that is not the same as a factory backing their transmission warranty. I saw a MT article saying the Raptor variants get a revised torque converter and secondary oil cooler, so that may be part of why they're able to bump up power and torque specs more versus the other 10r60 equipped vehicles (Explorer ST has a FP tune but it's only rated for 430/467).
Correct, it is the 10R60, however it's not an issue with more torque. Those boxes perform well as long as you add an additional cooler to keep the oil cold. Over 1000 RRs now in Australia with 780Nm/510HP Performance Package. I've had mine for over a year now, done over 20.000km with the performance package.
Ford’s powertrain management will reduce output in certain gears to keep reliability. Ford could give it 600hp and you would never experience it due to software.
Citation?
Throw in a high flow air filter, colder t stat, a Mishimoto intercooler, 93octane mandatory ; the will help ensure a higher level of reliability and power consistency on the hotter tune and even the stock tune.
Dyno on same dyno, before and after
The results would probably be the same.
@@Commentleaver-c6x The real world 1/4 mile is the only verification needed; I wouldn't be surprised if it gave the tyres some torture off the line with all that extra torque !!
It's the factory. They don't need to do that shit. They will be sued into an oblivion if it's too far off.
Wtf that’s more power than my new 2024 F150 Raptor!
Wow now everyone knows you got a raptor. Good job. 😂
Plenty of tunes out there for the F150, too!
Shoulda bought an ARRRRRR!!!
Faster than my 26 raptor R too.
Ranger raptor is fastor without the tune
Stellantis, are you listening? Do you hear the steady drum beat of being put in the back of the pack? A possible four door mustang! A factory tune, no warranty loss, V8’s still in play! I am by no means a Ford guy but, I can and do give credit where it is deserved: good move Ford.
😂😂😂lol what
I have a feeling the tune was something they already had during development but neutered the motors because of “50 state legal requirements” it’s because one, you know who, state for sure and a couple others on the east coast that the other 47 states get something that all states can have. I’m sure in the fine print it’s not available in CA, NY and most of New England.
I don’t believe that’s the case considering you can bolt a whipple onto a 5.0 and make 700+ hp and still remain 50 state legal.
@@Jay-me7gw supercharged 5.0 isn’t available in California.
“Ford Performance advertises the supercharger kit as being legal in 49 states. Unfortunately for 2024 Mustang owners from Cali, this package does not have regulatory approval for use in California”
@@charlienevergold3654 wasn’t talking about the FP kit. I was talking about the kit straight from Whipple which has a CARB EO #
TFL, what about 5Star tuning? Do they make something comparable. I almost bought the 2.7L F150 because of your testing of their tune.
Factory warranty.
You need to do an MPG/Towing loop before and then AFTER the dealer software upgrades
It keeps getting better can't wait to get mine next year
smile from mirror to mirror when i drive mine. You will love it.
Would help if Ford built more than 5 Raptors a month.
I've seen 2 here in the NE since they can't put. Both sold well over MSRP. Any one that shows up gets a $10k markup
There’s a bunch coming, the pipeline is pretty good actually there will be a plenty sitting.
Order one, don’t wait for dealer stock
I ordered one 90 days ago and still don't have a build date
Ive seen lots of Bronco Raptors. All sitting for quite some time in NE.
@@jeremypotthoff we have 4 inbound here in Madison if you want one at msrp let me know!
Smokes the taco in every spec haha
More companies need to do this after the sale.
Awesome news. The explorer st needs it
There already is one.
@@orangemanbraptor yeah saw that. 430/467tq. Likely certain components in the driveline arent up to the task of the 500+lb-ft these put out but that is still damn respectable.
Factory Raptor tune incoming 👀
Already planning on getting one next summer when my Silverado’s warranty runs out next summer, and I will DEFINITELY be checking that box on order day.
Looking forward to that Toaster Test!!
30min labor to install at the dealer, or any ASE certified mechanic can install for you. When you connect the device to the truck, the mechanic has to input his certification number to keep the factory warranty. I've got a 22 Ranger, running the Ford Tune. Keep in mind the power train is built to north of 800hp..
Ranger Raptor offers by far the most performance, the standard Colorado ZR2 offers the best value and Tacoma is bringing up the rear on both. It will be interesting to see how the sales numbers reflect this over time.
100% agree. GM's hud and vented seats are nice to see in the midsize market. They do seem to have the most issues of the whole bunch though. Taco is in the basement.
Its not that interesting that the truck gains this much power. The power and torque curves on these turbo'd engines are completely artificial and controlled purely by the PCM and tuning. The stock tune requests 430 ft-lbs, and thats what the engine makes. All Ford had to do was tell the tune to request 536 ft-lbs, and the PCM handles the rest.
Look at the GM 2.7L. It magically went from 348 ft-lbs to 430 ft-lbs without physical changes. It was purely in the tuning. They limited torque in the tuning and so the PCM controlled boost to limit the maximum torque it made.
GM can't step up because I imagine their turbo is not large enough to supply much more power. Ford puts fairly large turbos in the F150 3.5 and this 3.0, capable of making 600+ crank HP if need be. They have a ton of overhead available to make 455 hp.
Would love to see 0-60 times before and after
Why do people care about acceleration in trucks? If you want to go fast, buy a muscle car or sports car, right? Seriously, racing a truck on the street or highway is doubly irresponsible.
We stopped hiring contractors with trucks modded for speed over a decade ago. We get better quality, better dependability, and less complaints.
@@nunyabidness3075Good for you. For the rest of us…we do care. Buy what you want. I’ll do the same. 0-60 is more than just for racing. It’s an indicator of the power that a truck has.
And dyno
@@nunyabidness3075 Agreed. I just bought a 2024 Colorado ZR2, and while I'd like a little more power for passing (might do an intake kit, cat-back exhaust, and maybe a mild tune - as long as this doesn't negatively affect MPG TOO much), I'm plenty happy with it. It's a TRUCK, not a 'Vette.
@@nunyabidness3075because it’s fun to blow away your junk muscle car with a truck
The Maverick Lobo should have that engine with that horsepower
Won’t happen
Agreed
At best they might make a Maverick ST with the 2.7.
They won't put tge 3.0 in it, because he would step on the toes of the Ranger Raptor and Explorer ST.
@@DragonKnightX12 the maverick would get the 2.3l from the focus ST if any
@@firebry23 yeah agreed!
Within a week of buying my Bronco Raptor I put an aftermarket intercooler and intake on it and tuned mine to 500hp not sure how much Torque but guessing around 600. It really wakes the truck up.
So all you did was change the intercooler and intake to get it to 500hp?
@@user-vw5je5qo2r didnt he say he tuned it?
These engines wont make more power without a tune. You cant just slap an intake and exhaust on it and expect gains like a 1998 honda civic. They are load based tuning, meaning the PCM targets a specific torque based on the throttle position and RPM. If you don't tell it to request more torque, it wont.
@crrc4s After getting my Ranger Raptor, I put a 2-Inch leveling kit on the front end and installed proper 33.2x12.5 Nitto's on 20-Inch wheels. Waiting to get my tri-fold bed cover and Livernois tune.
As a Raptor owner, I care more about suspension than horsepower. I have a tuned eco boost with plenty of power that tune on the bronco and Ranger is plenty of juice. They don’t need to worry about what Dodge is doing as long as their suspension does what they say the trucks are for
Agree, plenty of power already. The real magic is the suspension. Over high speed washboard, it’s the best riding truck I’ve ever driven. Ford nailed suspension design and tune, IMHO.
Great news for many. But not sure we all need this for our daily commute. Lol. Plus very curious what will happen to our MPG. Cheers all
Daily commute?!😂 Give me the power! By a prius for the daily commute
If you're that passive then you wouldn't be in the Raptor target market to begin with
If GM wanted to compete with this they would need to drop another engine into the Colorado as far as I am concerned.
I don't think they will do this and prefer keeping the truck more competitive by being cheaper.
Yea, I was thinking the same thing. I am thinking the 4 banger turbos in the GM and Toyota's would be hard pressed to ever to get them to produce that sort of power reliably anyway.
If you want to make lot of money cheaper is the way to go. Since people like to copy other people. Look at Toyota is was top because it was cheapest most reliable truck and if other truck company can do that they will be come most bought truck
@@kabloosh699 yeah, that 2.7 isn't touching this at 310 hp stock.
The best part of this Ford offering is the factory warranty. 536 lb-ft of torque is going to hella stress that drive train.
@@skyoung419z Interesting. The Mustang GT and Dark Horse has an available Ford Performance supercharger from Whipple with warranty that makes 810 horsepower and 615 lb-ft that has pretty much the same automatic.
The 10speed can hadle over 1000lbft
They need to come out with a Raptor Maverick
The tune and add ventilated seats, I’m in!
I love that Ford offers power updates at an affordable price. It shows their dedication to their performance junky customers.
With all that horsepower, you can get to the dealer in no time to get your recalls fixed.
Great video guys, exciting news for sure. I am planning to get the tune for RR as well. Really looking forward to all your new Ranger Raptor testing. Should be very interesting. Adding 100 lbs of torque at that lower RPM range, could in theory anyway actually improve fuel economy.
Not that would be why any of us owners bought our Ranger Raptors. LOL I will say the requirement for Premium fuel has me curious, if that is only one of those things that if you want that max power you need the premium fuel, or is something changing that is actually going to require premium fuel all the time.
It possible. That they were in the lab test engine and see how they push HP. Or they had this in there back pocket and was waiting for other competitors to see if they increase there hp with launch of raptor so they could remain king of HP
Okay the first review of the new tune after install on ranger6g said this - (You would never know that it is tuned, drives just like stock just a little bit faster)
Hope this isn’t a spoiler for the podcast I haven’t listened to yet! 😂 Really enjoying the “Toaster” test. As cool as the Gauntlet is, I think the toaster is closer (forced rhyme) to where the average person works be. Either way keep up the great work!
Been waiting for this, Numbers actually suprised me. Already placed a pre order 👍
Yeah I will put it on my 2024 RR saw as well yesterday, can’t wait for you to put in and talk about it great nees
Andre you are an audio nightmare! 😂 clapping, hitting your mic.
Given the cam phaser issues now appearing on the 3.0 engine, not sure I'd give up 2years and 14k miles of powertrain warranty for the extra power/torque.
How about reliability down the road? Extra stress on the engine
This is amazing. Ford is doing this. That much TQ on a midsized truck is bonkers. It's a no brainer!!
Can’t wait to see the video before and after
Can’t find one in LA for MSRP. $10k + markup. I need to get one with this tune. Can’t wait for the videoes to follow.
Admittedly, I've been a Tacoma fanboy since I bought my first Tacoma back in 2004. I currently own a 3rd gen and had every intention of replacing it with the 4th gen until Toyota decided slap a 4cl/hybrid in it. When I'm ready I plan on going with the RR instead.
So just curious. And maybe someone else has commented on this I didn’t look through all the comments. So basically the explorer ST has the same engine and I think the same 10 speed transmission. I’ll be at the set up differently in the computer, if this tune from the factory is OK for the ranger and bronco should it not be also good for the explorer ST? Can you do some research on this and find out if that will be available for the ST
I have the ranger raptor.
How much does this new tuning change the MPG ?
Wrong question
@@RUclipsuser1aa For real! LOL. I have a tuned Explorer ST (93 octane) and average about 16-18 MPG mixed driving. It's the price you pay for performance, and I don't mind it one bit!
Should allow the Ranger Raptor to break into the high 13’s and the BRaptor to hit low 14’s in the quarter mile. It’s a gonna be a hell of a gateway drug for a real custom tune…ask me how I know 😅
Toaster Test the Ranger Raptor
Always Alliterate.
It's not a heavy duty tow vehicle, why abuse it like that.
We are reaching the breaking point. Boom goes the repair bills.
One incentive to buying new
That's how you stay on top.
You have to wonder about long term effects on the driveline hardware. You get the upgrade because you want to use it. So what are the currrent max ratings on the trans and driveline gears? Or did Ford spec the Ranger for this power prior to offering the tune?
If you guys think the 2.7L is near the peak of its potential, you should experience the Whipple tune. It woke up the sleeping beast in my 2 door Bronco. 😎
They were referencing the Chevy 2.7L in that segment, not the EcoBoost.
Will this tune be available on other vehicles with this engine like the Explorer ST?
What about Explorer ST? It’s got the same engine.
Andre and Case - maybe you should pull off the Go Fast Camper for your test before and after, and then put it back on for a before and after
Now, they need to offer it on the Powerboost.
Getting ready to move to Colorado in the spring this may have sealed me getting the Ranger Raptor when we move 😊
Careful which area you move to with the increased violence in certain areas
Guys.. please do dyno test before and after tuning 🙏
If today's turbo motors are built well they are nowhere near maxed out. Back in the 80's the SAAB 2 liter turbo 4 was the choice for rally racing. By changing the turbo boost and oil pump they tuned them for well over 700 horse power.
The current F150 3.5L and this 3.0L have enough turbo to support >600 crank hp.
You guys mention the toasted test. You need to put the obd reader in the trucks and data log torque while pulling that hill. I bet most of these trucks are not using anywhere near their maximum output.
I worked out a few wrinkles learning this:)
Sounds awesome but can’t run larger tires than the stock ko3s and it’s unclear what happens to the power train after 36k
Hope they also increase the cooling. Separate oil and transmission coolers would be smart.
The nano has an engine oil cooler and transmission cooler already.
Best midsize truck on the market & the Colorado ZR2/Canyon AT4X are a distant 2nd place.
I don’t even see the Tacoma as beating the Frontier when price is factored. The segment has changed dramatically.
It’s crazy. Great truck but sticking to my jeep gladiator 2022 that I paid 44k for when I they were letting them go for cheap. Keeping the truck but the bronco raptor is my want but dang the prices.
Will the transmission cope with the extra torque?
Did you notice it’s actually 49 state? I just looked at it on fords website, the explorer ST has a flash too but it’s only 430 hp but it’s 50 state
Good find. Yeah would kinda suck not to be able to purchase this if you lived in CA.
Does the discount only apply to people that attend the rally? I thought it said owners in general.
The babe bots are in the chat 😂
Hobots
and we have feeling too
Do you have any drag races videos of this ranger raptor vs other midsize and full size trucks?
I've been telling everyone the nano architecture is beast!!
Will it be available for European markets as well?
They should just make it the standard power
Probably will in the 2025 models.
This is AWESOME!
Sucks for california and when is the 2025 ranger raptor coming out?
Ford sells a tune for the 2.7 Ecoboost Bronco and it requires premium fuel. I am guessing this also requires it. Still a very cool upgrade!
Ordered a tuner for the. Ranger Raptor yesterday. I was told by ford performance that they will be shipping out in a couple days.
What site?
@@lupehn ordered through an authorized ford performance dealer. Hillbank Motor Corp. is the shop that will install the tune to maintain the warrantee.
@@lupehnI called an authorized ford performance shop to order it.
This is great as it won't void warranty... however, the rest of us can go with aftermarket tuners, OZ, MPT to name a couple, and get a performance tune, ex: 93x tune from MPT, and get much higher numbers than a 50 hourse gain...
Warranty?
Honestly, I wouldn’t trust most of those guys to make a truly safe tune. I ran tunes from 4 different companies on my F150 and, once I learned how to tune it myself and started really datalogging and looking closer at the tunes, they were not great. They could have made way better and safer tunes.
I am 100% with Kase on wanting to see Ford to shove a Coyte in there.
That would be awesome.
I know with or without being factory supercharged, I for one would be ordering a new one tomorrow if they were to ever offer a V8 in the Ranger Raptor.
I like my current Ranger Raptor a lot, I just miss the sweat sounds only a V8 can make.
Can't wait to see the cost of a taillight repair/replacement
Does this factory tune applies worldwide? or just US? I am located in Thailand. please confirm. Than you very much
*what happens to your fuel economy with this tune ?, does it lower it by a lot?*
Yes
Depends on how heavy your right foot is. If you drive normally before and after, I bet it'll be more or less the same. Some vehicles even gain slightly more mpg after getting an aftermarket tune. Since this is a factory certified tune, it should maintain the same level of mpg, as long as its driven normally
who cares
@@HoneyBadgerFarm people who don’t want to buy more gas probably.
Who gives gives a shit
I have a Ranger Raptor. What do I ask for at the dealership so they know what to give me! I want to go next week for this!
I traded in a Ranger tremor which i installed a ford performance upgrade believe me that sucker would scat.
Likely about 4 lbs of boost. The cost probably covers the extra warranty repairs.
Thats what I was thinking. The cost is less about the tune, and more about padding the warranty.
So TFL... what are you hearing about the 555 TQ on a 10r60 that has max 463 tq as its listed or (600nm)
Just own it under warranty, then dump it.
@waynewallace2061 this is the only correct answer!!
Stanton Crest
Sounds good but I am betting that to get those performance numbers it will be premium fuel only are you willing to pay that penalty at the gas pump ?
The stock Ranger Raptor numbers are already on premium fuel, so obviously this is too.
Are you willing to pay $57k plus tax title and registration only to whine about premium fuel? 😂
30006 Cruickshank Tunnel
Actually Ford Australia has Herod Performance putting 505hp and 572hp from the Ranger Raptor. Ford is giving the same warranty as the normal Ford Ranger Raptor