🎶 I knew I wouldn't make it. The car just couldn't take it. I was turrrrrning, tires burrrrrning. The ground was in my sky. I was laughing and the bitch was Trashed. Death was in my eye! 🎶
"Back to the bar and hit the bottle again but there was No Tequila. We was pounding on the whiskey just to steady our brains 'cause there was No Tequila".
Ian Gilligan's vocal performance on the Born Again album is borderline supernatural. in my opinion, the greatest lead vocal ever laid down on a rock record. Ian left it all on that album as he was never able to sing in this manner again. I missed the tour but saw them on the next tour with Glenn Huges on vocals
I missed the Born Again tour since it was JUST before I got into Metal in 1984. But I DID see Gillan with Deep Purple on the Perfect Strangers tour and he sounded great. The first time I saw Black Sabbath live was with Glenn Hughes. I like Glenn Hughes and the Seventh Star album. but he wasn't sounding too good the night I saw him. Since then, I saw Black Sabbath with Dio (my favorite Black Sabbath singer), Ozzy, and Tony Martin. Great show every time! Maybe Tony and Geezer will do some one off shows with Ian some day. That way I can say I saw Black Sabbath live with all their singers! FWIW, the new Deep Purple album is really good!
I absolutely *LOVE* this album! Keep it Warm, Zero the Hero, Trashed, Disturbing the Priest, title track.....all cuts on this album are flippin' jams!!!!
I like Master of Reality probably best, love Heaven and Hell, but this one has its high points too! Also really dig Gillis' work on Speak of the Devil: favorite versions of "Fairies, Wizard, War Pigs, and Children"
My first Black Sabbath album that I purchased. Everyone said how horrible it was. Friends, rock critics, some of the band that made the bloody album! Forty years later, I’m still playing it on a semi regular basis. I love it. Holds up very well. F all of those who shit on it.
I was in high school when this album came out. i loved it. I got the vinyl and talked to my friend in math class and he said his version had the lyrics--mine just had the white sleeve. So be brought the sleeve the next day and let me photocopy it. I just saw my album has those copies taped to my album sleeve. My band at the time also covered Zero the Hero. Fun times...
I loved that album when it came out…gonna have to stream it tomorrow morning at work. I still have the LP and it is VERY HEAVY and DARK. That, to me, is what made it so great.🤘🖖✌️🎸🥁🎹🎤🎸
I did see Sabbath with Ian Gillan at the Cow Palace in January 1984. The one thing I recall clearly were two kids walking around the arena with a sign that read, Death to Dio. And I swear it's true. The Cow Palace seemed pretty full that night. I've got nine Black Sabbath albums. The first six with Ozzy, the first two with Ronnie and the one with (the one and only), Ian Gillan. ✊
I saw them on Born Again tour in Toronto at Maple Leaf Gardens and the arena was pretty full . It was fantastic and Gillan was great . They had the fullsize Stonehenge on the stage with huge illuminated crosses . I still listen to this album now at almost 60 and enjoy it just as much as i did as a teenager when it came out in 1983 🤟🤟
Great song 🎧 Zero the Hero especially when played live in concert in Toronto.. lol 😉🎸❤ Still reverberating in thy brain 🧠 all these years later 😂 Masterful performance by Gillan who’s powerful voice really belted out those vocals.., Zero The Hero …, !!!
During 1975-1977 the Ian Gillan Band put out 3 studio albums and a Double Live album released only in Japan. There was always a lag-time in the United States to get infornation on him and his albums were not real accessable until they turned up in the cut-out bins. Cut-outs were LP's that were cut to a $ 2.99 to $ 1.99 price rather than the $ 5.99 to $ 8.99 retail price. By 1980 import mail-order was the only way to get a Gillan LP from the UK. Gillan (The Band) were made available because the NWOBHM were pouring many import albums [LP's]. Most of my Gillan vinyl from 1975-1982 were obtained mostly from import mail-order, cut-out bins or trading with other collectors via United States Postal Service.
Oh yeah, cut outs and imports, those were the days. I bought Clear Air Turbulence as an import, but it wasn't cheap and couldn't see paying that much for an album. But, the 3rd or 4th time going back to it, I bought it. Love this album, and his solo bands.
@@notgivennotgiven7776 Gillan also had the 45 rpm 7" picture sleeves imported from the UK. I scored most of them from a place called Moby Music in Hollywood CA. They were so great because Gillan would always have the non-LP B-sides that were so great. I remember also lusting after certain albums until I could afford them.
I've followed Gillan down the ages. Got to see this Sabbath tour, it was magnificent. Always enjoyed the album, the songs are good, even if the final mix is miserable. At some point we might get a proper remaster and remix?
Andy Pearce remastered the album back in 2013. Available as a double CD (with a 1983 concert). This is the best sounding version available and it ain't bad at all!
Witnessed one of the most amazing vocal performances for Smoke 💨 On The Water 💦 by Gillan.. During the encore for Black Sabbath Born Again Tour … Incredibly Loud n Raucous 15 Minute Standing Ovation 👏… Should have seen the look 👀 on the faces of.. Geezer Butler & Tony Iommi …. Standing there on stage in total shock the Purple song outshining all the Sabbath tunes played earlier that night at Toronto’s Maple 🍁 Leaf Gardens …! 🎸🌟
Will always love Ian’s comment on his time with them “The longest party I ever went to” Ian has also recently praised Iommi for his early seventies contributions to hard rock/metal. Stating it as awesome. And Sabbaths contributions surpass Dp and Zep as the most relevant of the so called Trinity.
Another really well put together video Robert, I've just been getting into your stuff and it's all impressive stuff - passionate, well researched and articulate. The 'Gillan' band basically existed from '79- '82, when they put out 5 quality albums. Although they made no impact whatsoever in the States, back in their and my native Britain, they were a big deal, at least in the marginalised world of heavy rock, which although was popular over here, was reviled and dismissed by both the mainstream and trendy music press. Their peak was selling out 12,000 seater Wembley Arena in '82, with the mighty yet soon to be forgotten Budgie (one of my favourite bands to this day) in support, as well as second on the bill at Castle Donington's "Monsters of Rock", a one day festival which was the highlight of the British headbanger' s calendar, a must attend event. Anyway, I strongly recommend that you check out Gillan's five album run, a not unprolific output considering the brevity of the band's existence: Mr. Universe (1979), Glory Road(1980), Future Shock (1981), Double Trouble (1981) and Magic,(1982) The band comprised of an interesting bunch of musicians, with their own distinct image, including on the first three albums an original, shit-hot guitarist called Bernie Torme, as well as an ultra talented keyboardist called Colin Towns who later on became a successful television programme composer, a big, imposing bassist with a thunderous pound of sound named John McCoy and a great drummer called Mick Underwood, who had drummed with the legendary Paul Rodgers in a short lived band called Peace soon after the equally legendary Free had disbanded. Anyway, you must check out these albums for innovative, original and exciting heavy rock with Gillan himself on fire. I personally think all five of these albums tower above "Born Again"!
Tony Iommi has recently said that they plan on re-releasing the album digitally remixed for better sound quality. They said that at the time the album was released that something went wrong with the mastering and when they heard it on the radio they were all horrified at the bad sound quality. I can't wait to buy the new digitally remixed version when it comes out. The song "Trashed" is totally awesome amonst others.
I loved this album. I was a big Deep Purple and Sabbath fan, so this collaboration was heaven to me. I remember it being announced on an Issue of Kerrang magazine with Tony and Ian holding their Beers up in the pictures with pride. It was wild that Bev Bevan was the drummer. lol. I saw them live at the Philly Spectrum with Quiet Riot opening. Sabbath didn't disappoint. Great concert. Gillan would be playing his big Conga drums on stage during Zero the Hero, hair flying all over the place. Epic
Thank You For This Well done 👏 Brings back great memories 🔥✝️ Love this album probably because am a such a huge Deep Purple fan. Was devastated when i learned Dio was out of Black Sabbath…However now the best of 2worlds collide…Singer of DP 💜 join BS ✝️ Epic… Highlights: Trashed, Disturbing The Priest, Zero The Hero, Keep It Warm, Digital Bitch & Born Again. And Ian Gillan brilliant vocal performances & lyrics. Downsides: Pour Sound Quality & Mix. Had seen Gillan in 1982 on the Double Trouble Tour which was great.. Date: 18August 1983. Ticket Price: 95NOK. Venue: Drammenshallen, Oslo, Norway. First Concert On The Tour, First show for Ian Gillan & Bev Bevan with the group. Opening band: Pretty Maids. Audience: around 7000. Sound: Muddy & loud. Setlist: 5 songs from Born Again, Ozzy BS stuff & Smoke In The Water… The opening act nothing special.. BS: Loud, Dark, Gritty, Hard, Tough, Demonic Screams & the Great doomy stage set up with Stonehenge backdrops…✝️ Loved it of course 🙏 Thank You For The Music 🎸🎼 Cheers From Norway 🇳🇴
That first article isn't entirely accurate regarding Ian Gillan's career between leaving Deep Purple in 1973 and joining Black Sabbath ten years later. He effectively retired from the music business in 1973, doing a number of failed business ventures before re-emerging with the jazz-rock flavoured Ian Gillan Band nearly three years later. The IGB made three studio albums before imploding around 1978, after which the (much more successful) hard rock oriented Gillan (the band) came into existence. It was only after the disbandment of Gillan (the band) in 1983 that Ian Gillan joined Black Sabbath. The article's 200 gigs a year claim may have been the case in the IGB and Gillan years but certainly wouldn't have applied in the years immediately following Ian Gillan's departure from Deep Purple in 1973. Thank you for a very interesting video.
Saw the band 'Gillan' in Copenhagen Ca.1982 ; with Ian and Yannick Gears (from Iron Maiden) and saw 'Black Sabbath' At Reading Festival in 1983 with Ian Gillan singing (AND,playing BONGO-DRUMS)...Yannick climed on top of A Grant Marshall-'Mountain' , and Sabbath had Huge 'Strobo Crosses Action.
So I just discovered your channel the other day with the PowerSlave episode. The content and discussion about albums or whatever is right up my alley. I gotta look up all your videos and hoping to find episodes about Speak of the Devil, Piece of Mind, Heaven and Hell, and Screaming for Vengeance, plus many more. Absolutely great channel.
That's great! It's been an off and on channel here at our studio for many years. We recently decided to start putting some extra effort into content creation. I think we did some things a long time ago on Peace of Mind and Screaming for Vengeance. We have a video coming out soon about the Heaven and Hell tour. I'm really glad you like it.
I saw this show at the Aladin Theater in Las Vegas, November 25th 1983. I was 15 years old. I also saw the reunion tour with Ozzy and Bill Ward at the Thomas and Mac center in 1999. Both shows were amazing. 1983 Quiet Riot opened and it was my first big show i got to go to by myself. In 1999 Pantera opened for them. One of the highlight shows of my life.
saw this line-up (minus WARD/bev bevan instead) at READING 83....one of the best concerts I saw....Gillan screamed so much his voice was never the same after that tour....
On Jan 31 1984, I seen black Sabbath with ian gillan at the D.U. event center in Denver Colorado. MIND BLOWING! For me, it was the best of both worlds. Some people called it Deep Sabbath. Such a different texture on old Sabbath. More haunting and dark. Critics hated it but I'm a purple and Sabbath fan. I love the Sabbath and Deep Purple "Families" and how each member has his own dimension that he brings to the sound and how the members start their own bands. So there's a Deep legacy to study and enjoy. That tour, for me was the most perfect fruit from the "Birmingham" tree. It will never be repeated. I'm so glad I was there.
New subscriber here! Thanks much! I'm 58, so I grew up as a teenager in the 80's. I was 17 on 16 November 1983, and saw Black Sabbath on this tour with Quiet Riot, in Green Bay, WI. I thought Ian sounded great. I was standing right in front of Tony Iommi, in the second row. It was unbelievable. However, the 5K people there, pretty much thought that Biv Bevan's drum solo wasn't very good, lol. Overall, great performance. I now live in Jacksonville, FL. Cheers, and thank you! I love your videos.
I have always loved what most people seem to hate about Born Again. The detached muddy,quicksand,recorded in a swamp with a Fischer Price tape machine mix is fantastic. Tony's forlorn,melancholy,dark falling rain tone is deliciously on display here. Gillan's vocals/lyrics are positively unhinged. Live he was a madman incarnate. He seemed to really throw himself into the "evil" vibe in his always tongue in cheek way. Gillan ultimately split when Blackmore and the likelihood of arenas came calling again.
Saw this tour at the Cow Palace in San Francisco; opening were Ratt (all they had at the time was an E.P.) and Heaven. The place held 18-20,000 and it was maybe half full. We drove the 3 hours because we'd never seen Ian Gillan before. The band were great, Ian's vocal on the song Black Sabbath was really intense. It was an interesting experiment that was never going to last very long (particularly when the Deep Purple payday was looming). Cheers!
Yep I saw them! I loved Born Again from the start. I saw them at I believe the show in Chicago was at the Rosemont Horizon. They had the oversized Stonehenge stage dressing but when the lights went out and the fog rolled off the edge of the stage they backlight the Stonehenge monoliths with redlight as if the band were walking out of Hell. Then there were about 70 little pin spots to give the look of something equally angelic. Very cool. Then they ripped into Children of the Grave.. Rocked Bigtime!! Great gig, found out later the shirt I got brings a nice bounty…
I saw Black Sabbath with Ian Gillen and what I remember about that show the most is that we never got to see Ian's face as his hair was covering it the whole time.
I love love love this album. I wish they would put out a box set including 1) the album 2) any other studio recordings from this time period 3) 3-4 live sets from this tour, including live versions of every song played from the album, versions of supernaut and rock and roll doctor and any other nugget. A couple of summers ago I explored RUclips and listened to many live sets from this tour and they all blew me away. War pigs, heaven and hell, it all sounds glorious. Others have commented and I agree Ian Gillan brought a sense of danger back to the band. This is true both live and in the studio, the studio recording has a sabotage energy if you ask me and live, Gillan shreds his vocal cords even moreso than on the album, just totally goes for it. It must have been the chemistry (all connotations). Also, while Bill Ward is key to the appeal of the studio album for me, I must say that Bev Bevan is PHENOMENAL filling in for him on the tour. I had the born again cd in my car that whole summer but I blasted it and imagined “I had the tape deck roaring!” I love the Ozzy and Dio years, hell I love seventh star, but there is just something special about born again.
I Love The Born Again Album. I was a member of Columbia House and actually got the cassette in the mail because as all us old fogies out here know that if you did not select an album for the month, then Columbia would send you something similar to what you previously ordered. I was not even aware that Gillian was in the band! I put the cassette in the deck and was immediately shocked because I had no idea! I am from the country and news of such happenings did not exactly make it to my part of the country. In those days, if we could not find a Circus magazine somewhere we were totally clueless of such matters.
I was 14 when I seen Black Sabbath ( with Ian Gillian ) at the Sudbury Arena ( Ontario Canada) Nazareth opened the show. Fantastic stuff. Ian sang his ass off and the guys played great. People say that Ian could never quite hit those highs anymore after his stint in Sabbath and I agree. I am very happy that I seen this lineup ( Bev on drums ) . I only wish I could have seen them in the Dio years.
I love Born Again! Every song delivers! As far as the Sabbath/Purple family tree, you could start a channel on just that subject, and never run out of material! It might be the biggest family in rock!
I saw the Gillan version of Sabbath in Las Vegas, fall of '83 & what you're saying about energy of the new bands opening for them was definitely the case that night, where Quiet Riot seemed to steal their thunder - enough for me to actually walk out on them, and I'm a huge Deep Purple fan. All I can say now is, I wish I'd stayed longer, but as a 15 year old already appreciating heavier music, Black Sabbath didn't keep me there
I attended one of the shows on this tour. And it was VERY good 👍. Anyone who may have had a chance to see the tour, but didn't... really screwed up big-time. His handling of the early songs was excellent. And though I appreciate Dio immensely, and saw them together as well, I think Ian's versions of the "classic" songs were much better. He just seemed better able to interpret them. And I have heard previously that Ian is a friend of Ozzy's. So there's that. I am rabidly, but patiently awaiting Tony's remix of this album. Come onnn, Tony!!!😅
Consider yourself lucky.They never came to the NY otherwise I would have definitely seen them live.
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When I bought Born Again in 1984, I found the album very strange. I listened to it a few times and forgot about it in my vinyl collection. I don't know, Ian Gillan's style and humor, his tongue-in-cheek attitude, seemed alien to me within Black Sabbath's sound. Story twist: When I lost touch with heavy metal a little in the late 90s, I "discovered" this album (and, curiously, 1987's Eternal Idol with Tony Martin) in my collection again; after 10 years of sleeping beauty on the record shelf, it was basically born again on my turntable. I don't know, but today I still listen to it every now and then and think it's a great thing. Zero the Hero and Trashed are real gems. I have no idea why it "clicked" for me so late with this album. But whatever. My taste doesn't count. I even think The Elder by Kiss is great... :-D
I love Born Again. My favorite non Ozzy Black Sabbath album. Actually, I probably listen to Born Again more than any other Black Sabbath album these days. Trashed, Disturbing The Priest, Zero The Hero, Digital Bitch and Born Again are all great songs imo. Gillan's vocals are incredible on the album. Love all the stories surrounding the making of the album as well.
Saw them with Gillian November 12 1983 in Cleveland at the public auditorium. I was 17 years old and this was the first time I had seen sabbath. Gillian was fantastic. The show was great but the sound was really loud and at times good separation of instruments was poor due to the echo from this venue. Still was awesome and I feel fortunate to have seen this line up as it did not last more than 1 album.
Yea, - Zero To Hero - is pretty damn cool. Can you just imagine what Dio would have done with it. BTW, regarding this song . . . _"According to Tracii Guns of L.A. Guns and former member of Guns N' Roses, the riff [of Paradise City] was influenced by the Black Sabbath song "Zero the Hero" from the Born Again album."_
I 💯% can hear it.....sweeeeet! 👌* To clarify: I can totally hear the influence/inspiration for the riff. Not sure about the other thing. 🤙*Also song is called *Zero the Hero*
I liked this album when it came out. I hated the colors on the cover, didn't mind the image of the devil baby lol. There was a weird sound quality to it that just didn't come through the car speakers too well. It's loaded with great songs
I like your channel - you come across as a true fan mixing your memories, with facts and with archival info. Nice. Gillan was sublime on Children of the Grace (Worcester recording) and the song Black Sabbath (Reading festival). Was also quite good on Paranoid (also Worcester).
@@audiomover PS a fan did an AI remix of the Born Again album - not a remaster, but a remix. It did sound much better than the original album. Hopefully it gets a deluxe remix at some point. Zero The Hero! Then again, if you speed up ZTH, it's Paradise City by GNR.
My favorite black sabbath album gillian is great ! Really screaming good the best he got songs are really heavy and dark. Over the top and exaggerated its a bit over the top but it works!
@ColtraneTaylor no no ,I half-heartedly meant they could still get together and do some new material, which they may be s little too old but I think Ian is still active and Tony still does projects here and there, I believe Bill Ward still puts out new material here and there leaving just Geezer who declared he's happily retired but im sure for the right project he might be in , it would have to be all them for me to be interested but it would be kinda cool if it could, likely not of course but all the main players are there just older
Trashed is one of the best driving songs out there. Highway Star is another. Ian Gillan the common denominator. I didn't get to see this tour, but having seen Dio Sabbath, I can't complain.
A true metal classic, one of Gillans best vocal recordings ever IMO . Turn up 'disturbing the priest' to eleventeen and tell me you're not feeling it . When i first heard Born Again back in the day it was so sinister like a horror movie soundtrack , incredible album indeed . ✴
One detail about solo Gillan is that none other than Iron Maiden's Janick Gers became the guitarist in 1981 . Bernie Torme was also guitarist before that. and then there's John McCoy on bass.
I saw Sabbath with Gillan as I loved Gillan. In fact, my mates and I showed up with a banner asking if this was the Future Shock as per one of his more recent solo albums. Gillan can sing and he has an amazing range. Dio could sing but Gillan could Sing. Keep in mind the work he had done on Andrew Lloyd Webber's Jesus Christ Superstar back around 1970 before he really got busy with Purple. And Ozzy? He had a amazing rock n roll voice, and just an awesome presence - persona. But in like 1984 I think? I came to that show wanting to hear the intro to War Pigs with Gillan doing his vibrato, and I did. My life was kind of complete. Kind of. It is interesting that you reference Brad Gillis and Night Ranger and the fact that Gillis did a stint with Ozzy filling in for the recently passed Randy Rhoads and then made that live album at the Ritz in NYC. Keep in mind it was Gillan's guitarist who first filled in for Randy before Gillis took over. So just a small world? Add to that the fact that the band that warmed of the Born Again show in Philly where I saw them was Quiet Riot, Randy's original band. Add to that the folklore that the tune Digital Bitch found on Born Again is inspired by Sharon Osbourne. In general, the Sabbath show was fun. Not awesome but fun. I was waiting for Gillan to rejoin Purple - with him, and Blackmore and Jon Lord on the same stage again with Glover and Paice of course. In the end that was also cool, but not as good as I had hoped.
Gillan (the band) were one of my favorite bands back in the day, they were popular all around various countries in the world. In the UK alone, the had various records in they charts and one of their albums Future Shock made it to number 2 in the official album charts in the UK. 7:297:29
Awesome album! Also less talked about was his string of solo albums he released between 76-82 which did well in Europe but over here in the US went largely unnoticed. Even Born Again pretty much flopped but that did a little bit better than those solo albums.
I was 13 or 14 on that came out and I absolutely love it, I had also purchased speak of the devil and Sabbath live evil I think on the same day or within a week of each other something like that it was a very interesting time for metal.... and the nwobhm we're on their way up there were new bands and a few years thrash would begin to become more and more on my playlist but during this.... with the lineup changes and what not is whatever made its way into the Rock magazine of the time. And often that information was months old or very premeditated and not particularly truthful... anyway, I love born again to this day, it is one of Sabbath's most diabolical sounding records. I hear tell that they have rediscovered the actual Master tape so that a remix and re-release is going to be a possibility someday.... that would be outstanding cuz I think these songs never really got the release they deserved
I saw this tour in New Haven in 1983 when i was 14. I absolutely loved the concert! The new material and Ozzy/Dio era stuff spunded great! Stonehenge was the stage theme. Very Spinal Tap but it worked! Two large, lit up crosses on stage. I never warmed up to the album. In my opinion, the production is thrashy and sludge.sounding. But some people love it for the same reason.
Even as a 17 yr old I remember thinking what TH guy on stage playing bongos? 😋 apparently Gillan was broke ?? Apparently spinal tap got their movie ideas from this tour ?? Great dirty album tho ✌️✌️🤟🤟
Cool video. I saw them when I was 15, at a 5,000 seat hockey arena not far from Detroit. Nightranger opened. The concert was well attended but not sold out. What did they sound like? Like early 80’s era Black Sabbath with the famous voice of Deep Purple. They even played an encore of Smoke On The Water! It was almost like a “Supergroup” thing. (Believe it or not, I saw Ozzy and DIO solo later that year. Unfortunately, I never saw Dio with Sabbath/Heaven & Hell.)
That live recording of "Black Sabbath" with Gillan is on the second disc of the Andy Pearce remaster of Born Again. It has the the whole concert from their Reading Festival in 1983. This 2 disc set has only been out since 2011. Doesnt anyone buy CD's anymore?!
My friends and I never understood the hate this one got. We would crank this one right alongside the albums with Dio (we're partial to Dio) and Ozzy. This one is heavy as Hell. with great playing from the band and amazing vocals from Ian (who I place alongside Dio, Halford, and Dickinson as one of the great Metal singers). I love this album!
Geezer summed it up and took the majority of the blame (he and Tony both)by stating when asked what happened with Ronnie he said "cocaine ". And whatever genius said Gillian sounded the best on the song "Black Sabbath" is absolutely correct, that song was made for Gillian to sing
Zero is my favorite tune from that one too, then Trashed, Digital Bitch, Disturbing the Priest, Born Again...not the best, not the worst.. too bad they didn't make more albums with that lineup
I saw them touring this album in Dublin, 1983, at a festival with Motorhead and Twisted Sister. They were good however they didn’t play any of the Dio era songs . I’ve never been a big fan of the Born Again album. It’s a big drop in quality compared to the albums with RJD as singer, and the production sucked. I remember admiring Tony Iommi’s guitar playing and tone at the concert and found that live it was similar to the sound he got on Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules (and didn’t get on Born Again). I was also diappointed that they didn’t bring the Stonehenge set for the Dublin show. Maybe the stage was too small but couldn’t they have at least lowered a small replica onto the stage during the song and had some dwarves dance around it?
@@davidrice3337 saw TS open for Iron Maiden on Powerslave. All these little kids there with their mothers! We almost got kicked out for smoking weed! Maiden blew them off the stage!
@davidrice3337 Motorhead not only toured with them, but Lemmy was a real advocate for them when they came to the UK in the early 80s. See their appearance on the TV show The Tube
haha! my neighbor was blasting it out his bedroom window, when the other neighbor was blasting live ozzy out of a huge ghetto blaster parked on his shoulder while walking down the street while I was blasting Never Say Die which I'm sure was pouring out my windows
I love this album. From the live recordings, though, I didn't think Ozzy material fit him very well with one exception. "Rock N Roll Doctor", which unfortunately wasn't released on the deluxe Born Again, fits Ians style perfectly. It can be found on youtube.
Hey, regarding Gillan's solo efforts. He has fantastic albums that folks want to check out. If anyone likes Born Again, then one should check out Gillan, as in the name of his band from like 1979 to 1983. Some of you might know his guitarists during much of that - Bernie Torme, who was the guy first to be tapped to fill in for Randy Rhoads on Ozzy's Diary of a Madman tour after that plane crash. Janick Gers who is to this day still in Iron Maiden took over for Bernie in Gillan for the last year or so. Basically it is Deep Purple with a dash of punk? Good stuff. Albums include Mr Universe, Future Shock, Glory Road, Magic and one or two others. John McCoy-the Gillan bass player / producer and then some has also since released a bunch of live and other stuff. And much of this is on the various streaming services.
Oh the times where a band from early seventies was considered old and out 13 years later. Music culture sure moved fast back then. Thinking about current times, little has changed really in last 13 years since 2011 in music.
Cover was/is great. Looking like Rosemary's Baby and a play on the phrase, being reborn for a 3rd time. 2 Years earlier Depeche Mode used the same baby on their album cover.
Gillan was my favorite vocalist but not a fan of sabbath. Loved the Gillan solo albums especially Mr. Universe, Glory Road and Future Shock. They were top sellers in the UK and other euro and Asian countries.
I always think it is fascinating how a "new" singer comes on board and how they interpret their voice and lyrics into Black Sabbath. I thought Gillen did an excellent job getting into character. He has some marvelous critiques of religious values. I think it's appropriately scathing, particularly to Boomers who went from dipping their toe into 60's counterculture and then these same people went into the Evangelical movement and corporate prosperity towards the mid 80s. It made me think of Dylan's transformation. Very interesting stuff.
Disturbing the Priest is far beyond okay. I don't understand why so many people praise Zero the Hero , it's got a catchy chorus. But it's long and extremely repetitive.
Listened to this alot when it first came out. Saw them in Denver on this tour in 1984 pretty good crowd probably more than 5000 easy. They just didn't seem like they tried very hard when they made this album. Despite the muddy sound I like it. Disturbing the priest is the one we listened to the most ... Unusual arrangement w some cool guitar and great screamy vocals. Goes into a different kind of beat was this like early techno metal?
"Trashed" is one of the greatest metal songs of all time!!!!
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🎶 I knew I wouldn't make it. The car just couldn't take it. I was turrrrrning, tires burrrrrning. The ground was in my sky. I was laughing and the bitch was Trashed. Death was in my eye! 🎶
"Back to the bar and hit the bottle again but there was No Tequila.
We was pounding on the whiskey just to steady our brains 'cause there was No Tequila".
@@TheDKServices Wooooooooo!!! 🥂🍷🍻 Big *SHOUT OUT* to *Mr. Miracle!!!!* 🫡😂😂😂😂
Love that song, awesome tune.
Ian Gilligan's vocal performance on the Born Again album is borderline supernatural. in my opinion, the greatest lead vocal ever laid down on a rock record. Ian left it all on that album as he was never able to sing in this manner again. I missed the tour but saw them on the next tour with Glenn Huges on vocals
It was supernatural alright ....
I much preferred the Ian Gillan version of Born Again.😂😂
Weakest Vocal performance I've heard from Gillan , but he did sound good on Trashed, Born Again, and Disturbing the Priest.
I thought for a moment I was back here and reading my own comment. Nothing this epic has ever been done since, period.
I missed the Born Again tour since it was JUST before I got into Metal in 1984. But I DID see Gillan with Deep Purple on the Perfect Strangers tour and he sounded great. The first time I saw Black Sabbath live was with Glenn Hughes. I like Glenn Hughes and the Seventh Star album. but he wasn't sounding too good the night I saw him. Since then, I saw Black Sabbath with Dio (my favorite Black Sabbath singer), Ozzy, and Tony Martin. Great show every time! Maybe Tony and Geezer will do some one off shows with Ian some day. That way I can say I saw Black Sabbath live with all their singers! FWIW, the new Deep Purple album is really good!
I absolutely *LOVE* this album! Keep it Warm, Zero the Hero, Trashed, Disturbing the Priest, title track.....all cuts on this album are flippin' jams!!!!
Born Again was great! Zero The Hero is a classic Sabbath riff. Would have liked to see at least one more album with Gillian.
My favorite Sabbath album.
Better than Heaven & Hell ?!?
I ain't buying it
I like Master of Reality probably best, love Heaven and Hell, but this one has its high points too! Also really dig Gillis' work on Speak of the Devil: favorite versions of "Fairies, Wizard, War Pigs, and Children"
@davidrice3337 You knew 😂 I think I just say Born Again for shcok value, so someone might give it a chance🤙😂
@TheDKServices Sabotage is underrated. The Writ, cranked loudly, could stop a wild boar.
Born Again Ruuuules!!!!!🤘
My first Black Sabbath album that I purchased. Everyone said how horrible it was. Friends, rock critics, some of the band that made the bloody album! Forty years later, I’m still playing it on a semi regular basis. I love it. Holds up very well.
F all of those who shit on it.
Indeed it does. f the critics. . .
Same here.
I really enjoy that album
I was in high school when this album came out. i loved it. I got the vinyl and talked to my friend in math class and he said his version had the lyrics--mine just had the white sleeve. So be brought the sleeve the next day and let me photocopy it. I just saw my album has those copies taped to my album sleeve. My band at the time also covered Zero the Hero. Fun times...
Got to see this Tour, it was freaking awesome 🤘
Yet some so called fan will say no it wasn't, without even being there. haha
💯
I actually liked born again because I loved Deep Purple
Saw the band on this tour. They played really well and put on a good show to a sparse crowd.
I loved that album when it came out…gonna have to stream it tomorrow morning at work. I still have the LP and it is VERY HEAVY and DARK. That, to me, is what made it so great.🤘🖖✌️🎸🥁🎹🎤🎸
I did see Sabbath with Ian Gillan at the Cow Palace in January 1984. The one thing I recall clearly were two kids walking around the arena with a sign that read, Death to Dio. And I swear it's true. The Cow Palace seemed pretty full that night.
I've got nine Black Sabbath albums.
The first six with Ozzy, the first two with Ronnie and the one with (the one and only), Ian Gillan. ✊
Born Again was my first BS studio album (I have Live Evil on cassette prior) and was my first BS live show. This era will always be my favorite!!
I saw them on Born Again tour in Toronto at Maple Leaf Gardens and the arena was pretty full . It was fantastic and Gillan was great . They had the fullsize Stonehenge on the stage with huge illuminated crosses . I still listen to this album now at almost 60 and enjoy it just as much as i did as a teenager when it came out in 1983 🤟🤟
Hell yeah, man! I was 14 in '83. Good fkn times! 🤘😎🤘
Yeah. . . I believe their Stonehenge was too big for some stages. That situation proceeded to inspire Spinal Tap take on Stonehenge
Was there too - awesome show and iommi playing smoke on the water was unworldly!
Born again is epic!
💯. Oh yea, that's right! I remember that now! This giant illuminated cross would come down!
Great song 🎧 Zero the Hero especially when played live in concert in Toronto.. lol 😉🎸❤ Still reverberating in thy brain 🧠 all these years later 😂 Masterful performance by Gillan who’s powerful voice really belted out those vocals.., Zero The Hero …, !!!
During 1975-1977 the Ian Gillan Band put out 3 studio albums and a Double Live album released only in Japan. There was always a lag-time in the United States to get infornation on him and his albums were not real accessable until they turned up in the cut-out bins. Cut-outs were LP's that were cut to a $ 2.99 to $ 1.99 price rather than the $ 5.99 to $ 8.99 retail price. By 1980 import mail-order was the only way to get a Gillan LP from the UK. Gillan (The Band) were made available because the NWOBHM were pouring many import albums [LP's]. Most of my Gillan vinyl from 1975-1982 were obtained mostly from import mail-order, cut-out bins or trading with other collectors via United States Postal Service.
Oh yeah, cut outs and imports, those were the days. I bought Clear Air Turbulence as an import, but it wasn't cheap and couldn't see paying that much for an album. But, the 3rd or 4th time going back to it, I bought it. Love this album, and his solo bands.
@@notgivennotgiven7776 Gillan also had the 45 rpm 7" picture sleeves imported from the UK. I scored most of them from a place called Moby Music in Hollywood CA. They were so great because Gillan would always have the non-LP B-sides that were so great. I remember also lusting after certain albums until I could afford them.
saw them in 83 live in Munich... one of the most impressive live gigs I've ever seen.....and I 've been at many shows 🤘
I've followed Gillan down the ages. Got to see this Sabbath tour, it was magnificent. Always enjoyed the album, the songs are good, even if the final mix is miserable. At some point we might get a proper remaster and remix?
Andy Pearce remastered the album back in 2013. Available as a double CD (with a 1983 concert). This is the best sounding version available and it ain't bad at all!
@@Retro_Man_76 I heard it... a better effort. The master tapes have been found, I'm still holding out hope.
Remastering can't fix the mix, but there's hope again for a remix of these epic tracks.
Love this album, can’t wait for the remix to come out. 💜
Witnessed one of the most amazing vocal performances for Smoke 💨 On The Water 💦 by Gillan.. During the encore for Black Sabbath Born Again Tour … Incredibly Loud n Raucous 15 Minute Standing Ovation 👏… Should have seen the look 👀 on the faces of.. Geezer Butler & Tony Iommi …. Standing there on stage in total shock the Purple song outshining all the Sabbath tunes played earlier that night at Toronto’s Maple 🍁 Leaf Gardens …! 🎸🌟
Will always love Ian’s comment on his time with them
“The longest party I ever went to”
Ian has also recently praised Iommi for his early seventies contributions to hard rock/metal. Stating it as awesome. And Sabbaths contributions surpass Dp and Zep as the most relevant of the so called
Trinity.
I saw them Feb , 1984 . Wings Stadium Kalamazoo Michigan. It was an amazing show. I was blown away
Another really well put together video Robert, I've just been getting into your stuff and it's all impressive stuff - passionate, well researched and articulate.
The 'Gillan' band basically existed from '79- '82, when they put out 5 quality albums. Although they made no impact whatsoever in the States, back in their and my native Britain, they were a big deal, at least in the marginalised world of heavy rock, which although was popular over here, was reviled and dismissed by both the mainstream and trendy music press. Their peak was selling out 12,000 seater Wembley Arena in '82, with the mighty yet soon to be forgotten Budgie (one of my favourite bands to this day) in support, as well as second on the bill at Castle Donington's "Monsters of Rock", a one day festival which was the highlight of the British headbanger' s calendar, a must attend event.
Anyway, I strongly recommend that you check out Gillan's five album run, a not unprolific output considering the brevity of the band's existence:
Mr. Universe (1979), Glory Road(1980), Future Shock (1981), Double Trouble (1981) and Magic,(1982)
The band comprised of an interesting bunch of musicians, with their own distinct image, including on the first three albums an original, shit-hot guitarist called Bernie Torme, as well as an ultra talented keyboardist called Colin Towns who later on became a successful television programme composer, a big, imposing bassist with a thunderous pound of sound named John McCoy and a great drummer called Mick Underwood, who had drummed with the legendary Paul Rodgers in a short lived band called Peace soon after the equally legendary Free had disbanded.
Anyway, you must check out these albums for innovative, original and exciting heavy rock with Gillan himself on fire. I personally think all five of these albums tower above "Born Again"!
Tony Iommi has recently said that they plan on re-releasing the album digitally remixed for better sound quality. They said that at the time the album was released that something went wrong with the mastering and when they heard it on the radio they were all horrified at the bad sound quality. I can't wait to buy the new digitally remixed version when it comes out. The song "Trashed" is totally awesome amonst others.
I loved this album. I was a big Deep Purple and Sabbath fan, so this collaboration was heaven to me. I remember it being announced on an Issue of Kerrang magazine with Tony and Ian holding their Beers up in the pictures with pride. It was wild that Bev Bevan was the drummer. lol. I saw them live at the Philly Spectrum with Quiet Riot opening. Sabbath didn't disappoint. Great concert. Gillan would be playing his big Conga drums on stage during Zero the Hero, hair flying all over the place. Epic
@@dmacnic That sounds totally kick-fkn-azz!!!! 🫡 💯
Great presenting !
loved it
Thank You For This Well done 👏
Brings back great memories 🔥✝️
Love this album probably because am a such a huge Deep Purple fan. Was devastated when i learned Dio was out of Black Sabbath…However now the best of 2worlds collide…Singer of DP 💜 join BS ✝️ Epic…
Highlights:
Trashed, Disturbing The Priest, Zero The Hero, Keep It Warm, Digital Bitch & Born Again.
And Ian Gillan brilliant vocal performances & lyrics.
Downsides:
Pour Sound Quality & Mix.
Had seen Gillan in 1982 on the Double Trouble Tour which was great..
Date: 18August 1983.
Ticket Price: 95NOK.
Venue: Drammenshallen, Oslo, Norway.
First Concert On The Tour, First show for Ian Gillan & Bev Bevan with the group.
Opening band: Pretty Maids.
Audience: around 7000.
Sound: Muddy & loud.
Setlist: 5 songs from Born Again, Ozzy BS stuff &
Smoke In The Water…
The opening act nothing special..
BS: Loud, Dark, Gritty, Hard, Tough, Demonic Screams & the Great doomy stage set up with Stonehenge backdrops…✝️
Loved it of course 🙏
Thank You For The Music 🎸🎼
Cheers From Norway 🇳🇴
Dude! The intro to Disturbing the Priest is righteous! 🔥🤘😎🤘🔥
That first article isn't entirely accurate regarding Ian Gillan's career between leaving Deep Purple in 1973 and joining Black Sabbath ten years later. He effectively retired from the music business in 1973, doing a number of failed business ventures before re-emerging with the jazz-rock flavoured Ian Gillan Band nearly three years later. The IGB made three studio albums before imploding around 1978, after which the (much more successful) hard rock oriented Gillan (the band) came into existence. It was only after the disbandment of Gillan (the band) in 1983 that Ian Gillan joined Black Sabbath. The article's 200 gigs a year claim may have been the case in the IGB and Gillan years but certainly wouldn't have applied in the years immediately following Ian Gillan's departure from Deep Purple in 1973.
Thank you for a very interesting video.
Saw the band 'Gillan' in Copenhagen Ca.1982 ; with Ian and Yannick Gears (from Iron Maiden) and saw 'Black Sabbath'
At Reading Festival in 1983 with
Ian Gillan singing (AND,playing
BONGO-DRUMS)...Yannick climed
on top of A Grant Marshall-'Mountain' , and Sabbath
had Huge 'Strobo Crosses Action.
So I just discovered your channel the other day with the PowerSlave episode. The content and discussion about albums or whatever is right up my alley. I gotta look up all your videos and hoping to find episodes about Speak of the Devil, Piece of Mind, Heaven and Hell, and Screaming for Vengeance, plus many more. Absolutely great channel.
That's great! It's been an off and on channel here at our studio for many years. We recently decided to start putting some extra effort into content creation.
I think we did some things a long time ago on Peace of Mind and Screaming for Vengeance. We have a video coming out soon about the Heaven and Hell tour. I'm really glad you like it.
@audiomover 🤘
@@audiomover fyi....I got Maiden coming up on the 17th in San Antonio. "Scream for me Texas!"
One of me and my buddies favorite albums for 41 years. KILLER.
I saw this show at the Aladin Theater in Las Vegas, November 25th 1983. I was 15 years old. I also saw the reunion tour with Ozzy and Bill Ward at the Thomas and Mac center in 1999. Both shows were amazing. 1983 Quiet Riot opened and it was my first big show i got to go to by myself. In 1999 Pantera opened for them. One of the highlight shows of my life.
saw this line-up (minus WARD/bev bevan instead) at READING 83....one of the best concerts I saw....Gillan screamed so much his voice was never the same after that tour....
That's very smart of him - or not
Thanks for sharing....gotta love Hot Line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Decided to refrain from comment and give this and the channel a like.
On Jan 31 1984, I seen black Sabbath with ian gillan at the D.U. event center in Denver Colorado. MIND BLOWING! For me, it was the best of both worlds. Some people called it Deep Sabbath. Such a different texture on old Sabbath. More haunting and dark. Critics hated it but I'm a purple and Sabbath fan. I love the Sabbath and Deep Purple "Families" and how each member has his own dimension that he brings to the sound and how the members start their own bands. So there's a Deep legacy to study and enjoy.
That tour, for me was the most perfect fruit from the "Birmingham" tree. It will never be repeated. I'm so glad I was there.
New subscriber here! Thanks much! I'm 58, so I grew up as a teenager in the 80's. I was 17 on 16 November 1983, and saw Black Sabbath on this tour with Quiet Riot, in Green Bay, WI. I thought Ian sounded great. I was standing right in front of Tony Iommi, in the second row. It was unbelievable. However, the 5K people there, pretty much thought that Biv Bevan's drum solo wasn't very good, lol. Overall, great performance. I now live in Jacksonville, FL. Cheers, and thank you! I love your videos.
Wow, what a great experience! Thanks for sharing! I'm glad you like the vids.
@audiomover 💯!
Love the album! Underrated!! 🤘🏼☠️🔥
I remember his first solo album - child in time, I liked it, then he did like jazz fusion, Ian Gillan band, then Gillian - which rocked
I have always loved what most people seem to hate about Born Again. The detached muddy,quicksand,recorded in a swamp with a Fischer Price tape machine mix is fantastic. Tony's forlorn,melancholy,dark falling rain tone is deliciously on display here. Gillan's vocals/lyrics are positively unhinged. Live he was a madman incarnate. He seemed to really throw himself into the "evil" vibe in his always tongue in cheek way. Gillan ultimately split when Blackmore and the likelihood of arenas came calling again.
great description of it
Saw this tour at the Cow Palace in San Francisco; opening were Ratt (all they had at the time was an E.P.) and Heaven. The place held 18-20,000 and it was maybe half full. We drove the 3 hours because we'd never seen Ian Gillan before. The band were great, Ian's vocal on the song Black Sabbath was really intense. It was an interesting experiment that was never going to last very long (particularly when the Deep Purple payday was looming). Cheers!
Yep I saw them! I loved Born Again from the start. I saw them at I believe the show in Chicago was at the Rosemont Horizon. They had the oversized Stonehenge stage dressing but when the lights went out and the fog rolled off the edge of the stage they backlight the Stonehenge monoliths with redlight as if the band were walking out of Hell. Then there were about 70 little pin spots to give the look of something equally angelic. Very cool. Then they ripped into Children of the Grave.. Rocked Bigtime!! Great gig, found out later the shirt I got brings a nice bounty…
I saw Black Sabbath with Ian Gillen and what I remember about that show the most is that we never got to see Ian's face as his hair was covering it the whole time.
I love love love this album. I wish they would put out a box set including 1) the album 2) any other studio recordings from this time period 3) 3-4 live sets from this tour, including live versions of every song played from the album, versions of supernaut and rock and roll doctor and any other nugget. A couple of summers ago I explored RUclips and listened to many live sets from this tour and they all blew me away. War pigs, heaven and hell, it all sounds glorious. Others have commented and I agree Ian Gillan brought a sense of danger back to the band. This is true both live and in the studio, the studio recording has a sabotage energy if you ask me and live, Gillan shreds his vocal cords even moreso than on the album, just totally goes for it. It must have been the chemistry (all connotations). Also, while Bill Ward is key to the appeal of the studio album for me, I must say that Bev Bevan is PHENOMENAL filling in for him on the tour. I had the born again cd in my car that whole summer but I blasted it and imagined “I had the tape deck roaring!” I love the Ozzy and Dio years, hell I love seventh star, but there is just something special about born again.
I Love The Born Again Album. I was a member of Columbia House and actually got the cassette in the mail because as all us old fogies out here know that if you did not select an album for the month, then Columbia would send you something similar to what you previously ordered. I was not even aware that Gillian was in the band! I put the cassette in the deck and was immediately shocked because I had no idea! I am from the country and news of such happenings did not exactly make it to my part of the country. In those days, if we could not find a Circus magazine somewhere we were totally clueless of such matters.
I was 14 when I seen Black Sabbath ( with Ian Gillian ) at the Sudbury Arena ( Ontario Canada) Nazareth opened the show. Fantastic stuff. Ian sang his ass off and the guys played great. People say that Ian could never quite hit those highs anymore after his stint in Sabbath and I agree. I am very happy that I seen this lineup ( Bev on drums ) . I only wish I could have seen them in the Dio years.
Born Again is my favorite Sabbath album.
I love Born Again!
Every song delivers!
As far as the Sabbath/Purple family tree, you could start a channel on just that subject, and never run out of material! It might be the biggest family in rock!
I saw the Gillan version of Sabbath in Las Vegas, fall of '83 & what you're saying about energy of the new bands opening for them was definitely the case that night, where Quiet Riot seemed to steal their thunder - enough for me to actually walk out on them, and I'm a huge Deep Purple fan.
All I can say now is, I wish I'd stayed longer, but as a 15 year old already appreciating heavier music, Black Sabbath didn't keep me there
I attended one of the shows on this tour. And it was VERY good 👍. Anyone who may have had a chance to see the tour, but didn't... really screwed up big-time. His handling of the early songs was excellent. And though I appreciate Dio immensely, and saw them together as well, I think Ian's versions of the "classic" songs were much better. He just seemed better able to interpret them. And I have heard previously that Ian is a friend of Ozzy's. So there's that. I am rabidly, but patiently awaiting Tony's remix of this album. Come onnn, Tony!!!😅
Consider yourself lucky.They never came to the NY otherwise I would have definitely seen them live.
When I bought Born Again in 1984, I found the album very strange. I listened to it a few times and forgot about it in my vinyl collection. I don't know, Ian Gillan's style and humor, his tongue-in-cheek attitude, seemed alien to me within Black Sabbath's sound. Story twist: When I lost touch with heavy metal a little in the late 90s, I "discovered" this album (and, curiously, 1987's Eternal Idol with Tony Martin) in my collection again; after 10 years of sleeping beauty on the record shelf, it was basically born again on my turntable. I don't know, but today I still listen to it every now and then and think it's a great thing. Zero the Hero and Trashed are real gems. I have no idea why it "clicked" for me so late with this album.
But whatever. My taste doesn't count. I even think The Elder by Kiss is great... :-D
I love Born Again. My favorite non Ozzy Black Sabbath album. Actually, I probably listen to Born Again more than any other Black Sabbath album these days. Trashed, Disturbing The Priest, Zero The Hero, Digital Bitch and Born Again are all great songs imo. Gillan's vocals are incredible on the album. Love all the stories surrounding the making of the album as well.
Saw them with Gillian November 12 1983 in Cleveland at the public auditorium. I was 17 years old and this was the first time I had seen sabbath.
Gillian was fantastic. The show was great but the sound was really loud and at times good separation of instruments was poor due to the echo from this venue. Still was awesome and I feel fortunate to have seen this line up as it did not last more than 1 album.
Yea, - Zero To Hero - is pretty damn cool. Can you just imagine what Dio would have done with it. BTW, regarding this song . . .
_"According to Tracii Guns of L.A. Guns and former member of Guns N' Roses, the riff [of Paradise City] was influenced by the Black Sabbath song "Zero the Hero" from the Born Again album."_
I 💯% can hear it.....sweeeeet! 👌* To clarify: I can totally hear the influence/inspiration for the riff. Not sure about the other thing. 🤙*Also song is called *Zero the Hero*
Yeah he would have added some lame ass lyrics
Kick ass album - wished Gillan stuck around for one more!
Great album I was 16 when it came out saw that tour in Nov in Philly at the Spectrum
Some really heavy stuff on this! I personally love this album!
I liked this album when it came out. I hated the colors on the cover, didn't mind the image of the devil baby lol. There was a weird sound quality to it that just didn't come through the car speakers too well. It's loaded with great songs
I love Born Again. They recently found the tapes, and there's supposedly a re mix in the works.
it is really interesting....Gillan's solo work is a lot like Episode Six....which is the band he and Roger Glover quit to join DP
This album effing rocks. The actual story behind the cover is legendary.
I like your channel - you come across as a true fan mixing your memories, with facts and with archival info. Nice. Gillan was sublime on Children of the Grace (Worcester recording) and the song Black Sabbath (Reading festival). Was also quite good on Paranoid (also Worcester).
I'm glad you like it!
@@audiomover PS a fan did an AI remix of the Born Again album - not a remaster, but a remix. It did sound much better than the original album. Hopefully it gets a deluxe remix at some point. Zero The Hero! Then again, if you speed up ZTH, it's Paradise City by GNR.
I sure hope they update the recordings of that album and remaster them to make it the album sound the way it should have been all along.
My favorite black sabbath album gillian is great ! Really screaming good the best he got songs are really heavy and dark. Over the top and exaggerated its a bit over the top but it works!
Great record regardless of the mix or whatever.
I’m gonna look for that version of Black Sabbath. I had this album as a teen, I always thought it was way underrated
The Seventh Star with Ian Gillan would have cemented his status as a great Sabbath vocalist. It suits his voice ... time for an AI version.
No doubt. They could still....
@@danzemacabre8899 They could but Iommi won't insult his friend Hughes that way.
@ColtraneTaylor no no ,I half-heartedly meant they could still get together and do some new material, which they may be s little too old but I think Ian is still active and Tony still does projects here and there, I believe Bill Ward still puts out new material here and there leaving just Geezer who declared he's happily retired but im sure for the right project he might be in , it would have to be all them for me to be interested but it would be kinda cool if it could, likely not of course but all the main players are there just older
@@danzemacabre8899 That would be good too. Personally I feel Tony lost it after Forbidden/Eighth Star. Which is why I prefer his oldies.
Trashed is one of the best driving songs out there. Highway Star is another. Ian Gillan the common denominator. I didn't get to see this tour, but having seen Dio Sabbath, I can't complain.
A true metal classic, one of Gillans best vocal recordings ever IMO . Turn up 'disturbing the priest' to eleventeen and tell me you're not feeling it . When i first heard Born Again back in the day it was so sinister like a horror movie soundtrack , incredible album indeed . ✴
One detail about solo Gillan is that none other than Iron Maiden's Janick Gers became the guitarist in 1981 . Bernie Torme was also guitarist before that. and then there's John McCoy on bass.
I saw Sabbath with Gillan as I loved Gillan. In fact, my mates and I showed up with a banner asking if this was the Future Shock as per one of his more recent solo albums. Gillan can sing and he has an amazing range. Dio could sing but Gillan could Sing. Keep in mind the work he had done on Andrew Lloyd Webber's Jesus Christ Superstar back around 1970 before he really got busy with Purple. And Ozzy? He had a amazing rock n roll voice, and just an awesome presence - persona. But in like 1984 I think? I came to that show wanting to hear the intro to War Pigs with Gillan doing his vibrato, and I did. My life was kind of complete. Kind of.
It is interesting that you reference Brad Gillis and Night Ranger and the fact that Gillis did a stint with Ozzy filling in for the recently passed Randy Rhoads and then made that live album at the Ritz in NYC. Keep in mind it was Gillan's guitarist who first filled in for Randy before Gillis took over. So just a small world? Add to that the fact that the band that warmed of the Born Again show in Philly where I saw them was Quiet Riot, Randy's original band.
Add to that the folklore that the tune Digital Bitch found on Born Again is inspired by Sharon Osbourne.
In general, the Sabbath show was fun. Not awesome but fun. I was waiting for Gillan to rejoin Purple - with him, and Blackmore and Jon Lord on the same stage again with Glover and Paice of course. In the end that was also cool, but not as good as I had hoped.
There's a live version of Black Sabbath with Ray Gillen that is out of this world! Look it up, it's amazing!
Great album. The album as it came out the sound quality was so bad I couldn't listen to it. I hope a cleaner version is released.
Gillan (the band) were one of my favorite bands back in the day, they were popular all around various countries in the world. In the UK alone, the had various records in they charts and one of their albums Future Shock made it to number 2 in the official album charts in the UK. 7:29 7:29
Awesome album! Also less talked about was his string of solo albums he released between 76-82 which did well in Europe but over here in the US went largely unnoticed. Even Born Again pretty much flopped but that did a little bit better than those solo albums.
I was 13 or 14 on that came out and I absolutely love it, I had also purchased speak of the devil and Sabbath live evil I think on the same day or within a week of each other something like that it was a very interesting time for metal.... and the nwobhm we're on their way up there were new bands and a few years thrash would begin to become more and more on my playlist but during this.... with the lineup changes and what not is whatever made its way into the Rock magazine of the time. And often that information was months old or very premeditated and not particularly truthful... anyway, I love born again to this day, it is one of Sabbath's most diabolical sounding records. I hear tell that they have rediscovered the actual Master tape so that a remix and re-release is going to be a possibility someday.... that would be outstanding cuz I think these songs never really got the release they deserved
Since they found the master tapes for Born Again awhile back, they can finally do a proper remix and remaster. Tony Iommi said it is in the works.
I saw this tour in New Haven in 1983 when i was 14. I absolutely loved the concert! The new material and Ozzy/Dio era stuff spunded great! Stonehenge was the stage theme. Very Spinal Tap but it worked! Two large, lit up crosses on stage. I never warmed up to the album. In my opinion, the production is thrashy and sludge.sounding. But some people love it for the same reason.
Someone on one of these comments suggested looking up Gillan singing the song Black Sabbath. And I have to admit, he was amazing.
@audiomover Yeah, you mentioned that. I found the clip. Ian is absolutely diabolical on it!
Even as a 17 yr old I remember thinking what TH guy on stage playing bongos? 😋 apparently Gillan was broke ??
Apparently spinal tap got their movie ideas from this tour ??
Great dirty album tho ✌️✌️🤟🤟
Cool video. I saw them when I was 15, at a 5,000 seat hockey arena not far from Detroit. Nightranger opened. The concert was well attended but not sold out. What did they sound like? Like early 80’s era Black Sabbath with the famous voice of Deep Purple. They even played an encore of Smoke On The Water! It was almost like a “Supergroup” thing. (Believe it or not, I saw Ozzy and DIO solo later that year. Unfortunately, I never saw Dio with Sabbath/Heaven & Hell.)
Although Born Again sound like a demo recording the songs are great and I wished we'd gotten more than one album from that line up.
That live recording of "Black Sabbath" with Gillan is on the second disc of the Andy Pearce remaster of Born Again. It has the the whole concert from their Reading Festival in 1983. This 2 disc set has only been out since 2011. Doesnt anyone buy CD's anymore?!
I tunes doesn’t have it ,hopefully someday
Zero the Hero is a GREAT song. Sludgey, growling and powerful. Trashed is also a banger.
My friends and I never understood the hate this one got. We would crank this one right alongside the albums with Dio (we're partial to Dio) and Ozzy. This one is heavy as Hell. with great playing from the band and amazing vocals from Ian (who I place alongside Dio, Halford, and Dickinson as one of the great Metal singers). I love this album!
Geezer summed it up and took the majority of the blame (he and Tony both)by stating when asked what happened with Ronnie he said "cocaine ".
And whatever genius said Gillian sounded the best on the song "Black Sabbath" is absolutely correct, that song was made for Gillian to sing
Zero is my favorite tune from that one too, then Trashed, Digital Bitch, Disturbing the Priest, Born Again...not the best, not the worst.. too bad they didn't make more albums with that lineup
I saw them touring this album in Dublin, 1983, at a festival with Motorhead and Twisted Sister. They were good however they didn’t play any of the Dio era songs . I’ve never been a big fan of the Born Again album. It’s a big drop in quality compared to the albums with RJD as singer, and the production sucked. I remember admiring Tony Iommi’s guitar playing and tone at the concert and found that live it was similar to the sound he got on Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules (and didn’t get on Born Again).
I was also diappointed that they didn’t bring the Stonehenge set for the Dublin show. Maybe the stage was too small but couldn’t they have at least lowered a small replica onto the stage during the song and had some dwarves dance around it?
I have less respect for Motorhead if they shared a stage with twisted sister - we used to laugh at those goofs - still do actually
@@davidrice3337 saw TS open for Iron Maiden on Powerslave. All these little kids there with their mothers! We almost got kicked out for smoking weed! Maiden blew them off the stage!
@davidrice3337 Motorhead not only toured with them, but Lemmy was a real advocate for them when they came to the UK in the early 80s. See their appearance on the TV show The Tube
haha! my neighbor was blasting it out his bedroom window, when the other neighbor was blasting live ozzy out of a huge ghetto blaster parked on his shoulder while walking down the street while I was blasting Never Say Die which I'm sure was pouring out my windows
Geezer rejoins for a bit in 94, and bill Ward was on the 97 reunion album
Him, Dio and Appice rejoined in 92 for a album and tour, also.
I love this album. From the live recordings, though, I didn't think Ozzy material fit him very well with one exception. "Rock N Roll Doctor", which unfortunately wasn't released on the deluxe Born Again, fits Ians style perfectly. It can be found on youtube.
Hey, regarding Gillan's solo efforts. He has fantastic albums that folks want to check out. If anyone likes Born Again, then one should check out Gillan, as in the name of his band from like 1979 to 1983. Some of you might know his guitarists during much of that - Bernie Torme, who was the guy first to be tapped to fill in for Randy Rhoads on Ozzy's Diary of a Madman tour after that plane crash. Janick Gers who is to this day still in Iron Maiden took over for Bernie in Gillan for the last year or so.
Basically it is Deep Purple with a dash of punk?
Good stuff. Albums include Mr Universe, Future Shock, Glory Road, Magic and one or two others. John McCoy-the Gillan bass player / producer and then some has also since released a bunch of live and other stuff. And much of this is on the various streaming services.
Thank you I will check them out
Oh the times where a band from early seventies was considered old and out 13 years later. Music culture sure moved fast back then. Thinking about current times, little has changed really in last 13 years since 2011 in music.
Worcester '83 , great live bootleg with the best versions ever of Black Sabbath, War Pigs and Paranoid because of Gillan's performances.
Cover was/is great. Looking like Rosemary's Baby and a play on the phrase, being reborn for a 3rd time. 2 Years earlier Depeche Mode used the same baby on their album cover.
Gillan was my favorite vocalist but not a fan of sabbath. Loved the Gillan solo albums especially Mr. Universe, Glory Road and Future Shock. They were top sellers in the UK and other euro and Asian countries.
I always think it is fascinating how a "new" singer comes on board and how they interpret their voice and lyrics into Black Sabbath. I thought Gillen did an excellent job getting into character. He has some marvelous critiques of religious values. I think it's appropriately scathing, particularly to Boomers who went from dipping their toe into 60's counterculture and then these same people went into the Evangelical movement and corporate prosperity towards the mid 80s. It made me think of Dylan's transformation. Very interesting stuff.
Disturbing the Priest is far beyond okay. I don't understand why so many people praise Zero the Hero , it's got a catchy chorus. But it's long and extremely repetitive.
Listened to this alot when it first came out. Saw them in Denver on this tour in 1984 pretty good crowd probably more than 5000 easy. They just didn't seem like they tried very hard when they made this album. Despite the muddy sound I like it. Disturbing the priest is the one we listened to the most ... Unusual arrangement w some cool guitar and great screamy vocals. Goes into a different kind of beat was this like early techno metal?
Awesome album just needs a remix/remaster