Slight Correction - There's some more minor changes. The hurtbox has been expanded at the feet and arm in certain frames. Non charged air knuckle has a lot of forward momentum now, but also has 7f more landing recovery. Kind of a nerf, kind of a buff also in a way. And also, lv1 way easier to hit. Minor stuff, big change is crouch MP. To summarize "I'm going to stick this move out that's +1 on block, hitconfirmable, 6f startup that you cannot whiff punish, and if it connects I go into 3500+ damage and the corner, but if you dare try to stick anything out, I'm hitting you. And there is nothing you can do about it." Crouch MP was probably one of the most broken normals in SF history which is saying something.
@@Lukima If they nerf him to the absolute ground, it'll be okay there's other characters. Honestly Luke is harder than people think to use optimally, people already miss lots of Luke stuff as it is so if it's the same reward as other characters, there will be no point in picking him.
Yea, this is mostly a nerf to scrubby Luke play. His neutral is significantly normalized now though and it will be way easier to deal with him, but I predict he's still extremely strong.
If the opponent walks forward on wakeup after your 5LP frame kill, you'll always cross them up. So the new setup doesn't seem to be that great if the opponent knows they can do that. I guess this is always the case if you're +41 and you need to forward jump instead of neutral jump.
I'm not gonna lie, he really does. The scrubbiest things about Luke were definitely the crouch MP (by far), jump HP, and drive rush suppressor. One is gone, but the other two are really, really cheap. He's already a strong character as it is with the damage and well roundedness. His neutral isn't broken anymore though which is good, even Luke mirrors feel dumb both people were just pressing crouch MP and fishing and praying.
@@sk8lifeXgr8life Because in order to stop Luke's drive rush crouch LP or MP, you have to press your checks very fast (depending on the character), but if he comes in with drive rush suppressor, at the exact same timing and spacing, now you are getting punish counter'd into a full meterless combo for 3500+ damage... All for doing the right thing. Luke isn't the only character that can do it of course, DJ can also with drive rush sobat/OD Sobat/sway, etc. But Luke's is one of the most brainless. It forces you to just block and let him come at you for free, or try to parry and risk getting punish counter thrown. All for something that takes literally no skill.
@@saado99 i never tried that move as a rushed pressure option but wouldnt the startup get hit out of even easier than c. LP or c. MP by checks like you said?? Is him stepping back for the move really that good? and how is it on block?
Safejump is definitely weaker, I personally think Luke will still be amazing probably won't move on tier list, but the crouch MP was a big reason his neutral was broken and very few characters can compete on the ground. The R:R was completely messed up.
He still gets a ton of turn off your brain pressure. He may need to watch where he presses Cr.mp in the neuch more often, but that's not gonna stop him from eating paint chips mid match.
maybe off drive rush, but I never thought pressure was the reason Luke was so cheap. Ken's pressure is better IMO and has legit high lows. But Luke's damage is so high, it's very scary often to challenge him because its costly.
Slight Correction - There's some more minor changes. The hurtbox has been expanded at the feet and arm in certain frames. Non charged air knuckle has a lot of forward momentum now, but also has 7f more landing recovery. Kind of a nerf, kind of a buff also in a way. And also, lv1 way easier to hit. Minor stuff, big change is crouch MP.
To summarize "I'm going to stick this move out that's +1 on block, hitconfirmable, 6f startup that you cannot whiff punish, and if it connects I go into 3500+ damage and the corner, but if you dare try to stick anything out, I'm hitting you. And there is nothing you can do about it."
Crouch MP was probably one of the most broken normals in SF history which is saying something.
Lvl is not good as anti-fireball now
@@baadshahmiya Thanks for that! Noted.
As someone who didn't juat throw it out in neutral this honestly isn't the end of the world.
Yea. This is mostly a nerf to the scrubby Luke play, but I predict he will still be extremely strong.
I am scared for the big balance patch. I hope they do not nerf him to death@@saado99
@@Lukima If they nerf him to the absolute ground, it'll be okay there's other characters. Honestly Luke is harder than people think to use optimally, people already miss lots of Luke stuff as it is so if it's the same reward as other characters, there will be no point in picking him.
@@Lukima aside from nerfs, i would like something for OD flash knuckle because i'll say that is kinda useless right now
@@joaquinbitancor1269 Why do you think it is useless?
This is much needed imo, Luke is still a wild character but, fixing this buttons changes a lot for the reckless Luke players
Yea, this is mostly a nerf to scrubby Luke play. His neutral is significantly normalized now though and it will be way easier to deal with him, but I predict he's still extremely strong.
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If the opponent walks forward on wakeup after your 5LP frame kill, you'll always cross them up. So the new setup doesn't seem to be that great if the opponent knows they can do that. I guess this is always the case if you're +41 and you need to forward jump instead of neutral jump.
Actually didn't know that. Yea it's definitely a downgrade.
Do Jmp, air flash knuckle combos into supers in the corner still work the same since air flash knuckle has 7 more frames of recovery?
Still works, the 7f extra recovery is only if it doesn't connect
@@saado99 oh, ok that makes sense.
Needs more nerfs
I'm not gonna lie, he really does. The scrubbiest things about Luke were definitely the crouch MP (by far), jump HP, and drive rush suppressor. One is gone, but the other two are really, really cheap. He's already a strong character as it is with the damage and well roundedness. His neutral isn't broken anymore though which is good, even Luke mirrors feel dumb both people were just pressing crouch MP and fishing and praying.
lol whats so good about rush suppresor? jw thanks for the vids btw
@@sk8lifeXgr8life Because in order to stop Luke's drive rush crouch LP or MP, you have to press your checks very fast (depending on the character), but if he comes in with drive rush suppressor, at the exact same timing and spacing, now you are getting punish counter'd into a full meterless combo for 3500+ damage... All for doing the right thing. Luke isn't the only character that can do it of course, DJ can also with drive rush sobat/OD Sobat/sway, etc. But Luke's is one of the most brainless. It forces you to just block and let him come at you for free, or try to parry and risk getting punish counter thrown. All for something that takes literally no skill.
@@saado99 i never tried that move as a rushed pressure option but wouldnt the startup get hit out of even easier than c. LP or c. MP by checks like you said?? Is him stepping back for the move really that good? and how is it on block?
@@sk8lifeXgr8life which move is suppressor? Back HP?
honestly the safe jump change hurts more than the hurtbox nerf
Safejump is definitely weaker, I personally think Luke will still be amazing probably won't move on tier list, but the crouch MP was a big reason his neutral was broken and very few characters can compete on the ground. The R:R was completely messed up.
how to enable hitboxes?😮
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I have no doubt tha Capcom want Luke to stay God tier for the next 10 seasons
He still gets a ton of turn off your brain pressure. He may need to watch where he presses Cr.mp in the neuch more often, but that's not gonna stop him from eating paint chips mid match.
maybe off drive rush, but I never thought pressure was the reason Luke was so cheap. Ken's pressure is better IMO and has legit high lows. But Luke's damage is so high, it's very scary often to challenge him because its costly.
I quit
LUKE is still top tier quiet crying about it.
Did you watch the video?