Thanks! You know what would be killer? If you guys came out with a small box with the guts of the Rode VMP. I would love a simple inline attenuator/preamp from Rode!
Agree on this one. In general, now when video recordings are going to get easier for everyone, some kind of "external" recorder like the H1, but with the RØDE VMP goodness inside would be perfect for the vlogger/RUclips'r that doesn't have the money for DSLR + RØDE VMP, and since a lot of handycams doesn't have stereo input, a device like this would be GOLD!!
One more thing to add: The XLR inputs need to be fed line level signals. (Either from a mic that already does Line level, or a a preamp) Otherwise the audio signal will come in quiet, which may become very noisy when amplified in post.
Looks like a decent upgrade! The biggest problem with the H1 is the plastic screw thread. Mine's already worn out, so I've been attaching it to other gear with elastic bands.
And another great video :) Thank you! I did the same with 2 3.5mm inputs. Additional informations, as some people have problem with 3.5mm input splitters. These basic splitters you buy on Amazon are simply to duplicate the signal on both jack, to be used on a smartphone for example. You have to buy a specific splitter that separates left and right. During my searches (Amazon FR), I didn't have a lot of choices so I had to pick only between a Hosa and a Stagg splitter. I picked the Hosa splitter because the Stagg one had a loose input 3.5mm jack. I returned them 2 times but same problem with new splitters. So I kept one as a backup (Have 2 Hosa splitters). Hosa splitters are great because they are color coded (red/black for left/right channel) and they have a better build than the Stagg. Refs: - Hosa: YMM-261 - STAGG: YC-0.1/1J2JFH My 2cts.
Caleb again!!! I don't believe I see all these pieces and i pass them for more expensive solutions. Imagine what it'd cost to have all this in one device. Thanks man!
My main take away from this video (what works for me) was the dual headphone jack for use of recording to dual audio sources. Dual audio recordings equal less stress during a shoot. Brilliant and (slap myself on the forehead) simple!! Thanks!!
+DSLR Video Shooter lol I was like that as a kid too, I have to see what upgrades I would want to do with my Canon t5i I already did the firmware upgrade that isn't apart of Canon specifically so I got a lot more things that it can do though shooting and editing video with its firmware isn't great cuz you have to convert the video to something that Adobe premiere can read
Doing this, You have blocked the front portion of the H1N unit. You wont get descent ambiance if you start recording with the stereo microphones mounted on this unit, u will get slightly muffed sound
Exactly! The splitter connects both outputs in parallel. Camera input is high impedance (it "reads" voltage), while headphones are low impedance (they draw current). This is additional load on recorder output is similar to shorting your signal to ground using coil/resistor. It will make your signal weaker. Also the headphones have different impedance at different frequencies, so they will affect lows more than highs. Also headphones work in reverse like dynamic microphones and they add to the length of cable, so they catch both acoustic and electromagnetic noise. Another problem is that you obviously can't control the headphone output volume, because it would also affect the camera input. If you have headphones with volume control integrated in cable, this can also interfere with recording in same way as headphones do (imagine connecting and disconnecting the headphones to the system as a worst case scenario).
Also i need to say that there is solution for all of this. You can add external headphone amplifier which will have the same high-impedance input as the camera has. So it will take the burden of powering the headphones and keep the recorder output happy. There will be only two high-impedance devices connected to Y splitter, which do not load the line very much.
@@harviecz I don't know if you can read this, but I have this one Problem, My problem is that DJ Person is bad and always forget to turn down Background music when Couple's Give speeches in the Reception ( I am Talking about Wedding Event), Now I want to connect a device to the microphone directly by splitting the xlr going to the mixer to my Zoomh1n and Zoomh1, that way I can only Record the Audio and not the audio with the background music? Is it possible? if it is, what device should I buy in order to achieve this? If you can reply, it would be a great help.
@@exogendesign4582 I don't really understand your setup, but XLR is ballanced signal and zoom needs unballanced. There are baluns to convert ballanced to unballanced, but i am not sure if that will work with splitter, that might not be possible. BTW do you know there are mixers which can automaticaly lower the volume of music, when microphone voice is detected? (But the music will come back almost immediately when they stop speaking, eg. when doing dramatic pause)
Shut up! I'd like to give you a thousand likes for these videos. You can't imagine how curious i was to watch it and how i am excited with your gh4 mods. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. You have a fan in Brazil.
I bought the Rodelink system and want to feed the sound directly to my camera. Would it be better for sound quality if I plugged in a Zoom H1 to the camera and connected the Rodelink to that?
Does the cold shoe fit on a Rebel T5i and a Zoom H2? Also, what cord would work with making the H2 an external mic for the T5i? I cant tell if I need a male to male 3.5 or a female to male, etc. Thank you!
So glad I came across this. I have been wanting to do this with mine, using a wireless for my buddy and wired for me keeping the unit in my backpack when we ride. Going to try in the very near future!! Thank you for this.
Awesome Caleb!! I've been working on something myself along these lines. The only difference is the mic end. I am testing out some wireless devices instead of the XLR ports. Thanks for putting this video together!
Is there any way you could make a demo with this using a battery powered shotgun mic like the ntg 2 and compare it to a h4n or a Dr40 that has the ntg 2 plugged in ?
WOW, this is the bestest, super-est, most ingenious hack ever that I've come across! Thanks so much for sharing these tips Caleb, you da Man. The H1 is such a nice affordable piece of gear and this just takes it to next level.. for noobs like me. Your videos rock! A+++
As someone who used DSLR Video Shooter's link to buy the Dual XLR to 3.5mm Jack I can say with certainty this cable is crap. It's not wired correctly for stereo use. With one mic per channel. Instead the XLR connectors are wired in parallel and the 1/8" TRS is configured as a balanced audio connection. I don't own a DSLR but I can say this cable is wired wrong for a camcorder with a stereo wired 1/8" TRS connector. Fortunately this can be fixed if you know how to solder. Remove the 3 screws on each XLR connector. Remove the cover of the XLR by pulling back on it. Be sure to remove the metal strain relief first that you unscrewed. You'll find the XLRs wired like this. Pin Color 1 bare copper 2 Red on one XLR, orange on the 2nd. 3 White On the one with the orange wire, unsolder the orange wire, cut off the excess copper and pull it back. On the one with the red wire unsolder the white wire and move the red wire to pin2. Cut off the excess white wire copper and pull it back. Finally short with a short piece of wire pins 1+3 on each XLR. Now reassemble. Now each XLR will go with each channel. If you do leave a channel unplugged expect hum though. Does not seem to effect the other channel. I can't believe he recommended this cable. Did he ever try it? Pro tip I should have seen myself. If the XLRs are not marked with channel identifications by word or color, it is unlikely stereo. But then again are there any 1/8" devices with balanced audio?
Just a newbie question -- what is the Short 3.5mm to 3.5mm male cable and the splitter for? I thought we can just plug in our headphones? why the need to plug audio into the camera?
Question, so I was able to purchase the 3.5mm jack, and and I placed two lavaliers in them and through my H1, nothing else. Now I"m having audio issues. I can hear the interview online through youtube, but not on my cell phone device? did I do something wrong?
No different from the H1 on its own. People seem pretty freaked out by adapters, but the tech and sci is pretty simple. The only problem with this stuff is when you start running long cables or have so many adapters that the grounding gets messy.
@@dslrvideoshooter Thank you for the video. But I'm not sure if I am understanding it correctly. So by doing this "hack", it allows the H1 to record the audio from the XLR Mics. While also sending that audio signal, over to camera of choice (Me=GoPro). But does the camera also record its own audio from its internal speakers? Or do both audio signals get overlayed on top of each other, into 1 file? Or is the camera, only recording the audio signals that are coming from the XLR Mics? Also wondering with this setup installed, do the on board microphones of the Zoom H1 also capture/record sound? Because the h1 is a dual track recorder? I'm sorry for all the silly questions. Your help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
there are also dynamic mics like te RE50 that have xlr connections. i use an old Beachtek xlr adapter. gives me 2 xlr connections and mini connector with some attenuation. no phantom power on that either.
I have bought ZoomH1 for voice over I am facing a problem that it is catching background voice clearly fan noise, sound of horn coming from a distance, whenever i record i have to turn off fan close the door and wait for the moment when everybody gets silent did i make a wrong choice ?
I've seen some tutorials/ reviews saying that you can use the headphone jack to send the audio back to the camera to use as reference. Isn't the audio the audio that goes back to the camera the same that is saved in the recorder? Is there a quality loss?
I know theoretically its perfect to use a xlr mic with this set up.. but is it practically working. ? I really want to know this.. please let me know... rather If you post a comparison video with an XLR mic to H1 vs to zoom h5 ... that will be helpful . I have tried the NTG 2 with this set up 6 months ago. but It was too noisy to use as i had to crank the preamp of H1 to 70-80 to get a good voice from 2 -3 feet . Please reply.
For using XLR mics with small recorders, I have to wonder if the Tascam DR-10X or Saramonic SM-VRM1 aren’t better suited for the task, though perhaps slightly more expensive. If you’re doing interviews and you already have a Zoom H1N, you’re probably better off just using its built-in mics instead of jury rigging something because it’ll look better on screen, and if you must use a better, XLR-based mic but don’t need to hide the equipment, you should probably just upgrade to a recorder that has phantom power and a dedicated line out. I get that people are trying to save money, but the major advantage of the H1N is that it’s compact and simple, so adding all this extra stuff kinda ruins its greatest strength.
Ever use the h1 as a field mic recorder? If its under 50 feet range to the subject(s) you want to record, I'm understanding its actually can be used as a shotgun mic? Any experience with this?
I completed this exact same setup, hooked up two external lav mics to the inputs, and had issues with the sound in post production. The sound would ONLY play on laptops, and websites, but when playing through the phone, it was like the sound record wasn't even on. Did I do something wrong? That shouldn't have happened right?
I have just tried it with Rode stereo mic pro however the noise level had gone way up and no way to reduce it even with my G85 setting to -12 and Rode stereo -10 :( the noise were gone once I plug Rode mic directly to G85.
I appreciate your audio savvy. But either you have made a mistake or I am missing something. You indicate that by using the dual xlr to a 3.5 stereo splitter/combiner it will send the two signals to the left/right channels in one file. If so, each channel can easily be modified in post. But I purchased a splitter/combiner, and found that on the h1 it is simply combining the signals. There is no separating of the two mic signals into a left/right channel in the resulting file. Both signals are on both channels. Any thoughts?
Really neat idea thank you. Can't see me having a use for it though but I am sure lots of music people will. My RUclipss are hillwalking mainly and my issues are wind noise on my Sony and problems doing my piece to camera. Hopefully the zoom H1 will help. V1 any way radically different from the V2 to make it worth choosing the 2? Anyone know?
@DSLR Video Shooter Thank you for the video. But I'm not sure if I am understanding it correctly. So by doing this "hack", it allows the H1 to record the audio from the XLR Mics. While also sending that audio signal, over to camera of choice (Me=GoPro). But does the camera also record its own audio from its internal speakers? Or do both audio signals get overlayed on top of each other, into 1 file? Or is the camera, only recording the audio signals that are coming from the XLR Mics? Also wondering with this setup installed, do the on board microphones of the Zoom H1 also capture/record sound? Because the h1 is a dual track recorder? I'm sorry for all the silly questions. Your help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
Caleb nice video...... the cable you have from the H1 to the camera does that need to be a Sescom cable ?on my X-t2 there is no connection with an ordinary TRS cable.
So, does this mean that if the camera has a headphone jack (like an A7S) then a the dual XLR-3.5mm jack cable is going to enable two XLR inputs with in-camera recording? (without phantom power of course) Thanks.
Very nice upgrade for such a cheap price! Just a question, is it possible to do the exact same thing but instead of double XLR input to have double Mini Jack imput? I want to do an interview with two lav mics and want to connect them both, but a cheap adaptor that I found and tested was not splitting the two mics to left and right channel. Both mics were recording to the left channel, thus not giving me the flexibility I want in post.
Can someone explain how this works..i don't have a camera that accepts external mics??? I use the zoom h1 mostly as a usb mic into my macbook. Whats the advantage of using the Zoom..aern't those rode mics self powered condensers - condensers generally have their own preamp..wouldn't you get a more pristine audio recording going direct?? Your signal chain is mic condenser element>mic preamp>xlr cable>zoom preamp>patch cable>camera internal preamp... Does the plugging in of an external mic bypass the camera's internal preamp?? If so, then I'm geussing ur maybe going to get better audio as the preamp in the zooms sounds excellent for a cheap device. If it doesn't, then Im not sure your achieving tht much, except that you could record 2 persons in an interview style setting using dynamic mics or something similar (cutting out background noise). They're great little gadgets. So many uses. You can field record, use as a usb mic, a headphone amp, camera mic..what can't this little bugger do :)
Caleb, I actually have a question regarding this too. I'm very new to using the H1, how do you actually set the input + output level for the H1 and the input level on the camera so that I can get a good level of audio without clipping? Thanks in advance! I actually bought the H1 for my Panasonic GX8 because of this video, ha! :)
Cool tutorial! My only complaint about the Zoom H1 is the plastic tripod mount. Anyone have suggestions to prevent the mount from wearing out from daily use? I'm on my third unit.
Doesn't the cable that runs out of the H1 and into the camera's mic input need to be an attenuator cable? I was under the impression that a regular 1/8th inch to 1/8th aux cable won't work--the cable need to be able to convert a line input to a mic level input (or something...I'm not sure of the technical reason).
Thanks, Caleb. Does this setup allow for recording to the H1 and the camera simultaneously, essentially giving me two "copies" of the audio, one on the H1's media card and another in the camera? And what is a typical pre-amp that would provide phantom power of needed for a XLR mic that doesn't have batteries? Something compact.
The 2 XLR inputs for stereo are awesome. Great idea. However, XLR is balanced and H1 input (3.5 mm) is unbalanced. Does the XLR to 3.5 mm cable create a noise issue as I have been led to believe ?
Looks nice.... But watch out for putting the XLR's right above the existing XY mic. It can sound like putting headphones on your ears and listening to the environment. It may cause less clearity and depth in the recording.
Does the Zoom H1 have a loud audio limiter? I know that you can set your levels so that they don't clip, but if I'm at an event and I'm moving around and I find myself in front of a loudspeaker does the Zoom compress the loud sound so that it doesn't distort?
Fantastic Hack, great to add more functionality to the Zoom H1. However, will the audio quality be effected with so many adapters ? This can include additional noise for example.
Should I use an XLR cable with my Rode VideoMic Pro and Zoom H1? People say they're more rugged than 3.5mm cables. Could the 3.5mm to XLR adapters cause interference?
The mic is known to have interference so use XLR adapters won't add to the issue much. Just don't let anyone hold the phone next to the mic and text ;-)
If you link the Zoom H1 to the camera, does it degrade the audio by going through the internal amplifier inside the camera after coming out of the Zoom h1?
Hey, I have a 5D MK II, a zoom H1, and am looking into buying a Seinheiser ME66. Would this mod work to connect the ME66 to the 5D in order to record the audio, without any glitches or issues? I am new to audio so would appreciate any advice and explanation. Thank you.
And will using a shotgun mic like the ME66 through an adapter give the same quality sound it would normally through a camera with a built in XLR input?
My God, I think you are the person that can really really help me... I got almost no idea about sound. I own a Fuji Xt-2 and use the Rode Videomicro which is great, I also have a Zoom H1, just saying... What I really want to ask you... is there a way to record SIMULTANEOUSLY SOUND FROM TWO DIFFERENT SOURCES LIKE 1)A PERSON WEARING A LAVALIER AND 2) A MICROPHONE ON CAMERA, WHILE HITTING THE RECORD BUTTON ON CAMERA AND EACH MIC RECORD ONLY WHEN YOU HIT THE RECORD BUTTON (OF THE CAMERA)... that way the sync of the sound would be easier right? Maybe what you show here is what I want, but if I understand well it is not, but it is close... I really hope that my question is clear , but I honestly have no idea what I should do or even if it is possible...I would really appreciate your opinion and any suggestion, I strongly believe you are the person that can really help me. Thank you!
Very handy!
Thanks! You know what would be killer? If you guys came out with a small box with the guts of the Rode VMP. I would love a simple inline attenuator/preamp from Rode!
Agree on this one. In general, now when video recordings are going to get easier for everyone, some kind of "external" recorder like the H1, but with the RØDE VMP goodness inside would be perfect for the vlogger/RUclips'r that doesn't have the money for DSLR + RØDE VMP, and since a lot of handycams doesn't have stereo input, a device like this would be GOLD!!
Right? I think it would killer.
Oh yes it would! Right now I am using a VideoMic Pro + H1.... If all of that was put into 1 device... would be freakin' awesome!
One more thing to add:
The XLR inputs need to be fed line level signals. (Either from a mic that already does Line level, or a a preamp)
Otherwise the audio signal will come in quiet, which may become very noisy when amplified in post.
Looks like a decent upgrade! The biggest problem with the H1 is the plastic screw thread. Mine's already worn out, so I've been attaching it to other gear with elastic bands.
And another great video :) Thank you! I did the same with 2 3.5mm inputs.
Additional informations, as some people have problem with 3.5mm input splitters. These basic splitters you buy on Amazon are simply to duplicate the signal on both jack, to be used on a smartphone for example. You have to buy a specific splitter that separates left and right.
During my searches (Amazon FR), I didn't have a lot of choices so I had to pick only between a Hosa and a Stagg splitter.
I picked the Hosa splitter because the Stagg one had a loose input 3.5mm jack. I returned them 2 times but same problem with new splitters. So I kept one as a backup (Have 2 Hosa splitters).
Hosa splitters are great because they are color coded (red/black for left/right channel) and they have a better build than the Stagg.
Refs:
- Hosa: YMM-261
- STAGG: YC-0.1/1J2JFH
My 2cts.
I saw those: tinyurl.com/jyr3mgr great idea for those looking for 3.5 instead of XLR. Thanks for the info!
Caleb again!!! I don't believe I see all these pieces and i pass them for more expensive solutions. Imagine what it'd cost to have all this in one device. Thanks man!
This is super useful - I travel a lot for recording interviews etc and this is great for reducing the amount I have to carry
I have been holding out from getting a Zoom H1 because I am able to get by using my iPhone and adapter, and the Røde Rec app. It actually works well.
My main take away from this video (what works for me) was the dual headphone jack for use of recording to dual audio sources. Dual audio recordings equal less stress during a shoot. Brilliant and (slap myself on the forehead) simple!! Thanks!!
great video thanks any other tips for the h1
man I been watching your videos for a little while and I have to say you are very tech savvy
Why thank you George! You'll have to thank the 10 year old Caleb. Took a lot of things apart as a kid ;-)
+DSLR Video Shooter lol I was like that as a kid too, I have to see what upgrades I would want to do with my Canon t5i I already did the firmware upgrade that isn't apart of Canon specifically so I got a lot more things that it can do though shooting and editing video with its firmware isn't great cuz you have to convert the video to something that Adobe premiere can read
+DSLR Video Shooter the raw video comes out as an mlv file
THANK YOU!!!! Diy projects rock & being able to upgrade my handheld recorder for under $20.... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Keep up the great content
Doing this, You have blocked the front portion of the H1N unit. You wont get descent ambiance if you start recording with the stereo microphones mounted on this unit, u will get slightly muffed sound
Its a nice upgrade, but do the XLRs somewhat interfere with the audio signal if you wanted to use the internal mics?
Using an audio splitter will degrade the feed, fine in many cases, but not an 'HD' solution audio wise. Still, great idea!
Yes, you are right!
Exactly! The splitter connects both outputs in parallel. Camera input is high impedance (it "reads" voltage), while headphones are low impedance (they draw current). This is additional load on recorder output is similar to shorting your signal to ground using coil/resistor. It will make your signal weaker. Also the headphones have different impedance at different frequencies, so they will affect lows more than highs. Also headphones work in reverse like dynamic microphones and they add to the length of cable, so they catch both acoustic and electromagnetic noise. Another problem is that you obviously can't control the headphone output volume, because it would also affect the camera input. If you have headphones with volume control integrated in cable, this can also interfere with recording in same way as headphones do (imagine connecting and disconnecting the headphones to the system as a worst case scenario).
Also i need to say that there is solution for all of this. You can add external headphone amplifier which will have the same high-impedance input as the camera has. So it will take the burden of powering the headphones and keep the recorder output happy. There will be only two high-impedance devices connected to Y splitter, which do not load the line very much.
@@harviecz I don't know if you can read this, but I have this one Problem, My problem is that DJ Person is bad and always forget to turn down Background music when Couple's Give speeches in the Reception ( I am Talking about Wedding Event), Now I want to connect a device to the microphone directly by splitting the xlr going to the mixer to my Zoomh1n and Zoomh1, that way I can only Record the Audio and not the audio with the background music? Is it possible? if it is, what device should I buy in order to achieve this?
If you can reply, it would be a great help.
@@exogendesign4582 I don't really understand your setup, but XLR is ballanced signal and zoom needs unballanced. There are baluns to convert ballanced to unballanced, but i am not sure if that will work with splitter, that might not be possible. BTW do you know there are mixers which can automaticaly lower the volume of music, when microphone voice is detected? (But the music will come back almost immediately when they stop speaking, eg. when doing dramatic pause)
Shut up! I'd like to give you a thousand likes for these videos. You can't imagine how curious i was to watch it and how i am excited with your gh4 mods. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. You have a fan in Brazil.
Thanks Samuel! Glad you're enjoying the DIY/Hacks!
Fantastic tips! Really awesome, thank you! Greetings from Japan!
This is one of the most handy hacks I've seen on RUclips! Great idea!
This is fantastic. I filmed a band last night and wasn't able to connect to the sound desk using a H1n because of no XLR input.Thank you!
I bought the Rodelink system and want to feed the sound directly to my camera. Would it be better for sound quality if I plugged in a Zoom H1 to the camera and connected the Rodelink to that?
Does the cold shoe fit on a Rebel T5i and a Zoom H2? Also, what cord would work with making the H2 an external mic for the T5i? I cant tell if I need a male to male 3.5 or a female to male, etc. Thank you!
So glad I came across this. I have been wanting to do this with mine, using a wireless for my buddy and wired for me keeping the unit in my backpack when we ride. Going to try in the very near future!! Thank you for this.
Nice! Thank YOU for watching John!
Super creative. Thanks for the tips!
Hi caleb..is zoom h1 has phantom power? Can i use reguler xlr mic which use phantom power to zoom h1?
Awesome Caleb!! I've been working on something myself along these lines. The only difference is the mic end. I am testing out some wireless devices instead of the XLR ports. Thanks for putting this video together!
Nice! Keep me posted! I'm about to start working on a cheap wireless option too.
Is there any way you could make a demo with this using a battery powered shotgun mic like the ntg 2 and compare it to a h4n or a Dr40 that has the ntg 2 plugged in ?
WOW, this is the bestest, super-est, most ingenious hack ever that I've come across! Thanks so much for sharing these tips Caleb, you da Man. The H1 is such a nice affordable piece of gear and this just takes it to next level.. for noobs like me. Your videos rock! A+++
As someone who used DSLR Video Shooter's link to buy the Dual XLR to 3.5mm Jack I can say with certainty this cable is crap. It's not wired correctly for stereo use. With one mic per channel. Instead the XLR connectors are wired in parallel and the 1/8" TRS is configured as a balanced audio connection. I don't own a DSLR but I can say this cable is wired wrong for a camcorder with a stereo wired 1/8" TRS connector. Fortunately this can be fixed if you know how to solder.
Remove the 3 screws on each XLR connector. Remove the cover of the XLR by pulling back on it. Be sure to remove the metal strain relief first that you unscrewed. You'll find the XLRs wired like this.
Pin Color
1 bare copper
2 Red on one XLR, orange on the 2nd.
3 White
On the one with the orange wire, unsolder the orange wire, cut off the excess copper and pull it back.
On the one with the red wire unsolder the white wire and move the red wire to pin2. Cut off the excess white wire copper and pull it back.
Finally short with a short piece of wire pins 1+3 on each XLR.
Now reassemble. Now each XLR will go with each channel. If you do leave a channel unplugged expect hum though. Does not seem to effect the other channel.
I can't believe he recommended this cable. Did he ever try it? Pro tip I should have seen myself. If the XLRs are not marked with channel identifications by word or color, it is unlikely stereo. But then again are there any 1/8" devices with balanced audio?
Just a newbie question -- what is the Short 3.5mm to 3.5mm male cable and the splitter for? I thought we can just plug in our headphones? why the need to plug audio into the camera?
Hello. Can the line in jack, be used to bring audio from a PA system? Thanks in advance for your help.
Question, so I was able to purchase the 3.5mm jack, and and I placed two lavaliers in them and through my H1, nothing else. Now I"m having audio issues. I can hear the interview online through youtube, but not on my cell phone device? did I do something wrong?
Nice idea Caleb. How does the sound quality hold up?
No different from the H1 on its own. People seem pretty freaked out by adapters, but the tech and sci is pretty simple. The only problem with this stuff is when you start running long cables or have so many adapters that the grounding gets messy.
@@dslrvideoshooter Thank you for the video. But I'm not sure if I am understanding it correctly. So by doing this "hack", it allows the H1 to record the audio from the XLR Mics. While also sending that audio signal, over to camera of choice (Me=GoPro).
But does the camera also record its own audio from its internal speakers?
Or do both audio signals get overlayed on top of each other, into 1 file?
Or is the camera, only recording the audio signals that are coming from the XLR Mics?
Also wondering with this setup installed, do the on board microphones of the Zoom H1 also capture/record sound?
Because the h1 is a dual track recorder?
I'm sorry for all the silly questions. Your help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
@@alotl1kevegas860 when microphones are plugged in, the Zoom microphones are switched off due to the pushed aside pins inside the receptable.
Hi Can you please tell me connect to connect ZoomH1n and Boya BY M1 lav mic to my smartphone so that I can record Audio and Video in together
How can I do this with two Lav mic to separate channels? great video thanks!
Could this be done with the splitter on the mic side? looking to add another 2 xlr mics too. We are going to try this set up for a podcast.
there are also dynamic mics like te RE50 that have xlr connections. i use an old Beachtek xlr adapter. gives me 2 xlr connections and mini connector with some attenuation. no phantom power on that either.
If you already have a Zoom F1, you can do basically the same things, but you also have the option of using an EXH-6 input capsule.
I have a zoom h4n pro 2020 model. I have a rode go mic as well. How Can I use rode go mic with zoom h4n pro to record audio ?
This hack is 7 years old but I think I'm gonna try it. :) Thank you
Does having it on the shoe mount like it is cause any noise while handling the camera? Like when using it without a shock mount.
Awesome video! Subbed. I am a beginner and was thinking of getting an h4n or h5 but budget was prohibiting. I have an h1 and this should help! Thanks!
Nice ideas, thanks! You'd have to rotate the recorder 90 degrees clockwise in order to use the viewfinder.
Super awesome tip! But will my audio degrade if I use the XLR to 3.5 jack like this set up?
Hello. Do you know how is possible disable the H1 screen light?
I have bought ZoomH1 for voice over I am facing a problem that it is catching background voice clearly fan noise, sound of horn coming from a distance, whenever i record i have to turn off fan close the door and wait for the moment when everybody gets silent did i make a wrong choice ?
I've seen some tutorials/ reviews saying that you can use the headphone jack to send the audio back to the camera to use as reference. Isn't the audio the audio that goes back to the camera the same that is saved in the recorder? Is there a quality loss?
There isn't a quality loss. But this setup is great for camera with no headphone jack or for any camera if you want a backup of the audio.
Thanks. I shoot with a 70d and this is much cheaper than everything else that i was considering!
I know theoretically its perfect to use a xlr mic with this set up.. but is it practically working. ? I really want to know this.. please let me know... rather If you post a comparison video with an XLR mic to H1 vs to zoom h5 ... that will be helpful .
I have tried the NTG 2 with this set up 6 months ago. but It was too noisy to use as i had to crank the preamp of H1 to 70-80 to get a good voice from 2 -3 feet .
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Bro am i right understand: you plug into dslr audio in from zoom’s headphone jack, so dslr will rec voice from zoom not own… right or
For using XLR mics with small recorders, I have to wonder if the Tascam DR-10X or Saramonic SM-VRM1 aren’t better suited for the task, though perhaps slightly more expensive. If you’re doing interviews and you already have a Zoom H1N, you’re probably better off just using its built-in mics instead of jury rigging something because it’ll look better on screen, and if you must use a better, XLR-based mic but don’t need to hide the equipment, you should probably just upgrade to a recorder that has phantom power and a dedicated line out. I get that people are trying to save money, but the major advantage of the H1N is that it’s compact and simple, so adding all this extra stuff kinda ruins its greatest strength.
I think this upgrade (by Caleb) is only relevant in moments when we shoot on dslr while relying on the dslr built-in mics.
Fantastic upgrades Caleb! This may inspire me pull my H1 out of retirement.
Nice! Every H1 deserves love!
Could you do something like this if you had a Zoom Q2HD recorder?
Will it work connecting to a Samsung Galaxy S7? and does it still record to the SD card whilst sending record signal to the camera/phone?
This is REALLY AWESOME!!! but does splitting the sound going in and out of the H1 harms it's quality in any way?
So lets say i want to use a rode videomic pro, can i rig that to an XLR output even though it comes with the 3.5mm ?
i dont understand the part where you send the headphone out to the camera in. then still use the headphone
Ever use the h1 as a field mic recorder? If its under 50 feet range to the subject(s) you want to record, I'm understanding its actually can be used as a shotgun mic? Any experience with this?
I completed this exact same setup, hooked up two external lav mics to the inputs, and had issues with the sound in post production. The sound would ONLY play on laptops, and websites, but when playing through the phone, it was like the sound record wasn't even on. Did I do something wrong? That shouldn't have happened right?
So after you plug t into the camera, do you need to hit record for it to record the sound into the camera, or not?
I have just tried it with Rode stereo mic pro however the noise level had gone way up and no way to reduce it even with my G85 setting to -12 and Rode stereo -10 :( the noise were gone once I plug Rode mic directly to G85.
How would this work using the USB to an iPhone? Would it send all the audio?
I appreciate your audio savvy. But either you have made a mistake or I am missing something. You indicate that by using the dual xlr to a 3.5 stereo splitter/combiner it will send the two signals to the left/right channels in one file. If so, each channel can easily be modified in post. But I purchased a splitter/combiner, and found that on the h1 it is simply combining the signals. There is no separating of the two mic signals into a left/right channel in the resulting file. Both signals are on both channels. Any thoughts?
Really neat idea thank you. Can't see me having a use for it though but I am sure lots of music people will. My RUclipss are hillwalking mainly and my issues are wind noise on my Sony and problems doing my piece to camera. Hopefully the zoom H1 will help. V1 any way radically different from the V2 to make it worth choosing the 2? Anyone know?
@DSLR Video Shooter Thank you for the video. But I'm not sure if I am understanding it correctly. So by doing this "hack", it allows the H1 to record the audio from the XLR Mics. While also sending that audio signal, over to camera of choice (Me=GoPro).
But does the camera also record its own audio from its internal speakers?
Or do both audio signals get overlayed on top of each other, into 1 file?
Or is the camera, only recording the audio signals that are coming from the XLR Mics?
Also wondering with this setup installed, do the on board microphones of the Zoom H1 also capture/record sound?
Because the h1 is a dual track recorder?
I'm sorry for all the silly questions. Your help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
What setting should be done for ASMR audio from H2N ...please help me by replying
Can I just use the 3.5mm splitter two create two inputs for Rode videomic pros?
DSLR Video Shooter If I connect the Zoom H1 to the Camera am I then using the H1 Pre amps or the camera ones?
What about phantom power, can I use an straight up preamp with xlr?
Caleb nice video...... the cable you have from the H1 to the camera does that need to be a Sescom cable ?on my X-t2 there is no connection with an ordinary TRS cable.
Can you make a video showing how to make a DC coupler for a DSLR?
It is on the list!
This is amazing, so easy and cheap to add xlr inputs to one of my fav bits of gear, totally doing this
So, does this mean that if the camera has a headphone jack (like an A7S) then a the dual XLR-3.5mm jack cable is going to enable two XLR inputs with in-camera recording? (without phantom power of course) Thanks.
Very nice upgrade for such a cheap price! Just a question, is it possible to do the exact same thing but instead of double XLR input to have double Mini Jack imput? I want to do an interview with two lav mics and want to connect them both, but a cheap adaptor that I found and tested was not splitting the two mics to left and right channel. Both mics were recording to the left channel, thus not giving me the flexibility I want in post.
Can someone explain how this works..i don't have a camera that accepts external mics??? I use the zoom h1 mostly as a usb mic into my macbook. Whats the advantage of using the Zoom..aern't those rode mics self powered condensers - condensers generally have their own preamp..wouldn't you get a more pristine audio recording going direct?? Your signal chain is mic condenser element>mic preamp>xlr cable>zoom preamp>patch cable>camera internal preamp... Does the plugging in of an external mic bypass the camera's internal preamp?? If so, then I'm geussing ur maybe going to get better audio as the preamp in the zooms sounds excellent for a cheap device. If it doesn't, then Im not sure your achieving tht much, except that you could record 2 persons in an interview style setting using dynamic mics or something similar (cutting out background noise). They're great little gadgets. So many uses. You can field record, use as a usb mic, a headphone amp, camera mic..what can't this little bugger do :)
What mic would you recommend to use with this setup? Mainly record instrument and some vlog or interview. My budget is under 200. Thank you!
Neat dude... not gonna do it but it opens up other ideas. Thanks 👍🏽
Great rig Caleb!
I feel like for that splitter to send line to camera you would need an attenuated cable... No?
Most cameras can handle low level line inputs. At least I haven't had any issues.
Caleb, I actually have a question regarding this too. I'm very new to using the H1, how do you actually set the input + output level for the H1 and the input level on the camera so that I can get a good level of audio without clipping? Thanks in advance! I actually bought the H1 for my Panasonic GX8 because of this video, ha! :)
Do You need to press the record button on the zoom to record with the camera
What mic and cable length work the best. Are not most mics line powered? What can this little device handle?
Cool tutorial! My only complaint about the Zoom H1 is the plastic tripod mount. Anyone have suggestions to prevent the mount from wearing out from daily use? I'm on my third unit.
You might be able to find a small metal cheese plate, attach that to the bottom and use the metal threads for mounting and leave the plate on.
Can i use 2 akg d5 mics with this set up for interview or podcast type video?
Doesn't the cable that runs out of the H1 and into the camera's mic input need to be an attenuator cable? I was under the impression that a regular 1/8th inch to 1/8th aux cable won't work--the cable need to be able to convert a line input to a mic level input (or something...I'm not sure of the technical reason).
If the H1 was a beefy preamp with a strong line out you would probably need one, but this setup works fine for cameras.
so this set up allows you to record straight to a dslr?
Thanks, Caleb. Does this setup allow for recording to the H1 and the camera simultaneously, essentially giving me two "copies" of the audio, one on the H1's media card and another in the camera? And what is a typical pre-amp that would provide phantom power of needed for a XLR mic that doesn't have batteries? Something compact.
Yes, but doesn't running the headphone splitter half the impedance thereby doubling the volume of the output and potentially straining the zoom amp?
The 2 XLR inputs for stereo are awesome. Great idea. However, XLR is balanced and H1 input (3.5 mm) is unbalanced. Does the XLR to 3.5 mm cable create a noise issue as I have been led to believe ?
Looks nice.... But watch out for putting the XLR's right above the existing XY mic. It can sound like putting headphones on your ears and listening to the environment. It may cause less clearity and depth in the recording.
This just might save me a good amount of 💰!! Thank you Caleb!
I was contemplating buying the Zoom H4 but after seeing this i'm having second thoughts!
Does the Zoom H1 have a loud audio limiter? I know that you can set your levels so that they don't clip, but if I'm at an event and I'm moving around and I find myself in front of a loudspeaker does the Zoom compress the loud sound so that it doesn't distort?
Won't the xlr ports going to block the microphone?
this hack isnt meant for using the built in mics
Would you reccommned using this setup, then an xlr cable then adapting it back to 3.5mm to use with a rode videomic
Fantastic Hack, great to add more functionality to the Zoom H1. However, will the audio quality be effected with so many adapters ? This can include additional noise for example.
Not that would be noticed. I haven't seen a quality difference.
Good stuff Caleb... What input is it on my Canon 7D Mark I?
Update for the Zoom H1n please ?
Should I use an XLR cable with my Rode VideoMic Pro and Zoom H1? People say they're more rugged than 3.5mm cables.
Could the 3.5mm to XLR adapters cause interference?
The mic is known to have interference so use XLR adapters won't add to the issue much. Just don't let anyone hold the phone next to the mic and text ;-)
What are you recording with now in this video , it's sounding like gold .
If you link the Zoom H1 to the camera, does it degrade the audio by going through the internal amplifier inside the camera after coming out of the Zoom h1?
Hey, I have a 5D MK II, a zoom H1, and am looking into buying a Seinheiser ME66. Would this mod work to connect the ME66 to the 5D in order to record the audio, without any glitches or issues? I am new to audio so would appreciate any advice and explanation. Thank you.
And will using a shotgun mic like the ME66 through an adapter give the same quality sound it would normally through a camera with a built in XLR input?
Hello. I can use the XY zoom microphone + external microphone "LINE"? So I have two recording channels? It's possible?
Unfortunately no. The H1 only supports using one or the other.
My God, I think you are the person that can really really help me...
I got almost no idea about sound. I own a Fuji Xt-2 and use the Rode Videomicro which is great, I also have a Zoom H1, just saying...
What I really want to ask you...
is there a way to record SIMULTANEOUSLY SOUND FROM TWO DIFFERENT SOURCES LIKE 1)A PERSON WEARING A LAVALIER AND 2) A MICROPHONE ON CAMERA, WHILE HITTING THE RECORD BUTTON ON CAMERA AND EACH MIC RECORD ONLY WHEN YOU HIT THE RECORD BUTTON (OF THE CAMERA)... that way the sync of the sound would be easier right? Maybe what you show here is what I want, but if I understand well it is not, but it is close... I really hope that my question is clear , but I honestly have no idea what I should do or even if it is possible...I would really appreciate your opinion and any suggestion, I strongly believe you are the person that can really help me. Thank you!