Hi thanks for the video I have a cannon r6 and I was going to purchase the rode boom pole and the rode ntg4 with the h5 and im confused on how I can capture the audio already synced with the video so I don't have to sync the audio files separately
King! This guy is king! No bullshit intro music-video bullshit. He goes straight to the point. Learn from him! Great content, great value. 10/10. Liked, subscribed and commented!
Yo, this video really helped me understand a lot of things I was ignoring as a documentary filmmaker for years!! Really appreciate the amount of value in this under 10 minute video!
I match the meters with a 1khz tone from the H5. Also send the signal to the Camara But a nice beep tone from the H5 when it starts recording makes sync a breeze and use the high quality audio from the H5. Great video!
I hear the difference for sure. This is a great tutorial. I have an H5N which I was using to go into my laptop then syncing the wav file after recording. I'm definitely going to switch over to this method. Thanks!
Really really helpful video. Found this while looking for some alternatives to the XLR top handle for the fx30. Never thought about the additional compression with recording baked in audio. Thanks!
Hm, my Sony a7 III doesn’t compress audio, it puts PCM into the MP4 container. And I believe your a7 IV also doesn’t. External recording is theoretically better because of 24/32-bit float resolution, whether the camera’s audio is 16-bit.
Yes, these comments were in the context of consumer grade cameras, typically sub $1500 which is where most content creators live. You're right that my new Sony A7IV is PCM. It's beautiful.
Hi, great video! I'm working on this very thing right now. I'm a musician looking to make my own promo videos DIY style, and I just bought a Lumix G95 camera. I'm pairing that with the beastly Zoom H8 recorder which can record in multitrack with 6 XLR/1/4inch inputs.Very good info there about the baked in audio, and potential multiple layers of compression... thanks!
Outstanding thank you. 🙏 For my guitar I’ve upgraded to SM57’s, SLR cables to my Beachtek preamp to my camera. I’m hoping this is a big improvement over my shotgun mics
Very well put together video, thanks for all the information. You made it easy to understand and gave me a better vision of what I need to do as a content creator.
My bro very useful information. Now I need to buy a field recorder. I got the money to either buy the zoom h6 or h8 but still not sure which one to buy. Also I am thinking of getting the sennheiser mk600 and use it all together. Probably I will sync as it sounds so much better. But thank you! I learned now that audio also has in a way raw data just as video and that can be compressed and so on. Cheers great video! :)
I need this same solution but i need to have the external recorder record 4 channel, but i still want its line out to split the audio into 2 channels i.e. on external i have 4 mics, on the camera the sound would be 2 mics on left ,2 mics on right. the point here is if people ever talk over each other the external recording would be my safety.
Good information..Would you please explain how to sync audio from the recorder to the audio from the camera when you have two seperate recordings - my recorder was connected to a PA system and the camera was too far away.. I have to sync them in FCPx & they always go out of sync...
If you loose quality by 3 compressions with the baked in sound, why not taking syncing all the time the sound of the camera with the H5 sound, in premiere pro it is a one min process???
Hello! thanks for the video. Can I use the TRS cable to connect my Tascam directly to the camera, to speak through the Tascam so that the sound goes directly to the camera and records it there?
Great video! thank you I have a request, will you recommend the Zoom MSH-6 capsule for spoken words? or if you want to do a short video explaining? Thank you in advance.
HELP ME!!!!!!!! When I connect my recorder to my camera i get NO SOUND!!!!!! I tried everything from trs to trrs cables!!!!! But when i connect my Rode wireless mics, it works perfectly!!!!!!!!
what about an XLR female to 3.5 male directly from boom to the camera, using NTG4+ cuz it has self phantom power.. would it be similar quality as the zoom method u showed? all the zoom is doing is giving phantom power right? the rode NTG4 + has a -10 db button option so I'm guessing is not optimal but it might work.? asking cuz I have to cover a small event with 3 handheld cameras and I'm already using a dedicated on camera mic on 2 of them but buying a new one just for this job is not worth it. or am I better off recording audio directly from the GH5, without anything attached? Thanks a lot
Great video...Thank you! Will this work for the following? I am trying to connect a Shure SCM-268 mixer to a Panasonic HC-V785K Camcorders’ Mic input jack. I don’t think an XLR to 3.5mm cable is a legit way to go but I would certainly appreciate your thoughts.
Hey I have a question about Zoom! I’m trying to create a professional but simple videoconferencing setup. My thought is an A6700 with 4K USB streaming with a H5 interface connecting to a MKE 600. So then everything just comes out of camera, no need for a USB audio interface, making it easy to move the setup as needed. I’m worried about the compression effects you mentioned at the end, will USB streaming from camera still compress to AAC?
Question. I got the Rode NTG5 and I have the Saramonic LC-XLR to lighting microphone adapter cable. If I was to get the H5 would I be able to connect the LC-XLR to the H5 right to my iPhone? Thank you in advance.
@Audio for Content Creators So does the H5 have phantom power? Also, if I am understanding you correctly, I want to use a Rode NTG4 shotgun mic for streaming, and after watching this it seems as if my audience won't hear any difference between the Rode and a $30 lav mic from Amazon? BTW I am on a gaming laptop and I could hear a huge difference between your audio A&B tests. The baked-in audio actually had more bass, but it sounded almost clipping and the highs were not as defined.
You never explained why/how the sync audio to video is some tedious or complex. I see pros (like you) talking about how external audio is such a pain. I'm a noob and I just do it in like 3 clicks. So I am clearly missing some level of quality or some complexity. Just curious if you were going to reveal that secret. Why do the pros claim it is some massive amount of work? Neat video but I'll stick to my select the video/select the audio and click on "sync audio/video"
Really depends on the project. If you’re doing talking head videos or a sit down interview, it’s really easy to sync everything. When you start getting to multiple cameras, multiple recorders, dozens of locations, etc. for those who aren’t well-versed in production and don’t want to take the time to make sure everything is labelled and organized correctly, they’d prefer to just have everything already together. If you vlog for an entire day where it’s let’s say 300 clips, most people don’t want the extra work of syncing all that for them/ their editor in post.
Hey Brian, I really like all your content, some tips are top notch, however there is a huge problem with your channel. The channel name is basically no-name. No brand. It's very difficult to search and re-find your videos again, if I want to re-watch them. Why? Well, you basically have no name, no brand. I end up typing something like "boom mic setup for content creators" or similar just to find your specific videos - but your videos are always down there somewhere on youtube. It would 1000x easier, if you had some easy to remember brand name that no one uses, e.g. AudioBrian or BrianSound or BMAudio or a made up word like BRIADIO / BRADIO / SOUNGE , or a composition title like "Brian Miller - Audio Academy"
Susbcribe and notification bell ;) Seriously though, the reason is to avoid confusion with my personal brand that I make a living with, my name, which has nothing to do with audio at all.
Baked-in actually sounds better, but it's just because you didn't adjust the raw wav volume to match the loudness of built in audio. The 1-stage audio data-compression trick is super cool, thanks!
yeah, well it sounds richer but actually the flatter signal of the uncompressed is the better signal because it can be worked better. But I hear you I like the baked in sound too, but his point was it was the raw file, that can then be produced in post to make you sound like god.
hello thanks the for your video very useful, also maybe because you use Lumix g85 in mp4 which use aac there is a loss, maybe with a better camera ? if you register in mov directly with lpcm, audio file baked inn, maybe the quality is better similar to the wav, or more close ? not sure but I continue my investigation ...if you have some thought about it thx for sharing and your time.
Can I do this with JUST a mini xlr cable? My 3.5mm input doesn't work on my Mark iii 5D, and I want to be able to use a mic boom set up out in the field.
An awesome video as per usual, Brian! 😆👍👍 As ever, I appreciate you for taking the time to highlight the best way to get highest quality audio possible, especially if you're wanting to use the baked in method as opposed to editing and syncing the audio & video in post-production. ☺👌 Personally, I'll always opt for the recording externally then syncing and editing in post 99.9% of the time, however, even with that being said, I'm sure there'll be occasions where the baked in method come come in handy. 🎧📷🎤 Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
anyone here know if there’s a audio workflow (i.e. order of operations) for fairlight? or audio in general? for example, like resolve's "image processing order of operations" for color? -colton 🤟🏼
Hi dude , you demonstrated the two way system to grab audio straight in to the camera using the audio recorder and the cam, is there a three way to add a short gun mic like the Boya Bm 6060 to that connection ?
4:00 - 4:39 That is music to my ears, that timeframe of video right there is EXACTLY what i wanted to goddamn hear 👂🤩🤩🤩 I have a Lumix G85 and i wanted to connect a Shore SM7B to it - and that part of this video nearly gave me a stiffy !! 💪🏼
Thank you for your presentation. I would appreciate your feedback. I want to connect my GH-6 camera to an event sound board via an xlr (stereo) to my camera 3.5mm trs cable. would that work? Thank you for your response.
Thanks for the video. Helps a lot. I would like to modify this approach using the Zoom F3 and the line out connected to a Wireless GO II transmitter. Any suggestions?
This is similar to the irig pro set up im using to just being able to play live drums along to backing tracks. All I needed was just the splitter cable.
can you separrate the audio after using the backed in camera out put method to then upload as an audio podcast ? or is that not neccesary ? would I still be able to retrieve the audio only from the zoom h5 or h6 ?
Dude! You should consider what Fuji does with their cameras and allows you to select line level or mic level for the microphone port. I select line level and use a very good external Sound Source and this is all RUclips needs for the highest quality conversion
Do you have a set up for an on the go video shooter? I rig up my Sony a7iii with the rode video mic, I just ordered the zoom h6, I always keep a pair of good over-the-ear headphones on me. I also shoot bts on small sets as well and I dnt have boom man. I want better sound and do want sound to sound far away. So I would need help setting that up because I have a job in a few weeks. Thx ya for video and much love from GA
Is there something about syncing frames (like 4 frames) because the travel of the audio signal gets the sound very slightly behind the video (even connected)? (or is that something else?)
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Hey man, please do a comparison between the new Deity D4 Mini and Movo VXR10 pro. They both are same $50.
Hi thanks for the video I have a cannon r6 and I was going to purchase the rode boom pole and the rode ntg4 with the h5 and im confused on how I can capture the audio already synced with the video so I don't have to sync the audio files separately
First time I have been taught about the 'compression' aspect... Thank you...
King! This guy is king! No bullshit intro music-video bullshit. He goes straight to the point. Learn from him! Great content, great value. 10/10. Liked, subscribed and commented!
THIS IS ABSOLUTE BEST TUTORIAL ON THIS SUBJECT ON YOU TUBE, PERIOD. Many thanks!
One of the top Video's on Video Sound I have ever seen, major props.
Yo, this video really helped me understand a lot of things I was ignoring as a documentary filmmaker for years!! Really appreciate the amount of value in this under 10 minute video!
I match the meters with a 1khz tone from the H5. Also send the signal to the Camara But a nice beep tone from the H5 when it starts
recording makes sync a breeze and use the high quality audio from the H5. Great video!
Great video... some people just have the gift to make short easy understanding videos, you are one of them. Thanks
I hear the difference for sure. This is a great tutorial. I have an H5N which I was using to go into my laptop then syncing the wav file after recording. I'm definitely going to switch over to this method. Thanks!
Yeah even without the compression artifacts you can tell it sounds less full. How are you syncing?
As an audio engineer, I approve of this message. Well, all of them, but this one is good too. lol
Really really helpful video. Found this while looking for some alternatives to the XLR top handle for the fx30. Never thought about the additional compression with recording baked in audio. Thanks!
Wow, I had no idea about compression happening three times. Thanks for that. I'm loving my H6 I got for a song and break dance on CL yesterday.
This isn't your day job? It is my day job and I still learned some great things from this video. Cheers!
Thank you! loved the compression facts I learned a lot
Hm, my Sony a7 III doesn’t compress audio, it puts PCM into the MP4 container. And I believe your a7 IV also doesn’t. External recording is theoretically better because of 24/32-bit float resolution, whether the camera’s audio is 16-bit.
Yes, these comments were in the context of consumer grade cameras, typically sub $1500 which is where most content creators live. You're right that my new Sony A7IV is PCM. It's beautiful.
Hi, great video! I'm working on this very thing right now. I'm a musician looking to make my own promo videos DIY style, and I just bought a Lumix G95 camera. I'm pairing that with the beastly Zoom H8 recorder which can record in multitrack with 6 XLR/1/4inch inputs.Very good info there about the baked in audio, and potential multiple layers of compression... thanks!
Outstanding thank you. 🙏
For my guitar I’ve upgraded to SM57’s, SLR cables to my Beachtek preamp to my camera. I’m hoping this is a big improvement over my shotgun mics
Very well put together video, thanks for all the information. You made it easy to understand and gave me a better vision of what I need to do as a content creator.
absolute genius workflow. superb!
Thank you for your work! best video!
My bro very useful information. Now I need to buy a field recorder. I got the money to either buy the zoom h6 or h8 but still not sure which one to buy. Also I am thinking of getting the sennheiser mk600 and use it all together. Probably I will sync as it sounds so much better. But thank you! I learned now that audio also has in a way raw data just as video and that can be compressed and so on. Cheers great video! :)
I need this same solution but i need to have the external recorder record 4 channel, but i still want its line out to split the audio into 2 channels i.e. on external i have 4 mics, on the camera the sound would be 2 mics on left ,2 mics on right. the point here is if people ever talk over each other the external recording would be my safety.
The problem I’m having now is that the sound is passing through, but there’s a lot of noise. I mean a lot! It’s unusable audio. How do I fix?
Ground issue?
thank you :)
Good information..Would you please explain how to sync audio from the recorder to the audio from the camera when you have two seperate recordings - my recorder was connected to a PA system and the camera was too far away.. I have to sync them in FCPx & they always go out of sync...
Excellent info. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
If you loose quality by 3 compressions with the baked in sound, why not taking syncing all the time the sound of the camera with the H5 sound, in premiere pro it is a one min process???
Outstanding and Thank You !
Thank you! How well explained everything.
I've searched and found this!!! The zoom is so expensive. Are there cheaper options :) thank you! Amazing video 💜💜💜
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Lots of good knowledge nuggets here. Thank you!!
My pleasure!
With this method can you use more than one mic at a time?
Very very good explained, thanks
Hello! thanks for the video. Can I use the TRS cable to connect my Tascam directly to the camera, to speak through the Tascam so that the sound goes directly to the camera and records it there?
Can I skip the recorder and plug the XLR mic to my camera using an adapter?
Great video! thank you I have a request, will you recommend the Zoom MSH-6 capsule for spoken words? or if you want to do a short video explaining? Thank you in advance.
Is that a Gibson 1959 LP Cherry Sunburst?
do you have a link to that external mic?
HELP ME!!!!!!!! When I connect my recorder to my camera i get NO SOUND!!!!!! I tried everything from trs to trrs cables!!!!! But when i connect my Rode wireless mics, it works perfectly!!!!!!!!
for some reason everything works but its only playing back in the left ear , i have the zoom h6 connecting with sony zv e 10 using xlr mic any tips
How long does the battery last on the ZoomH5 using it as an XLR to Jack converter?
Oh nice. This is going to be a helpful tool.
what about an XLR female to 3.5 male directly from boom to the camera, using NTG4+ cuz it has self phantom power.. would it be similar quality as the zoom method u showed?
all the zoom is doing is giving phantom power right? the rode NTG4 + has a -10 db button option so I'm guessing is not optimal but it might work.?
asking cuz I have to cover a small event with 3 handheld cameras and I'm already using a dedicated on camera mic on 2 of them but buying a new one just for this job is not worth it.
or am I better off recording audio directly from the GH5, without anything attached?
Thanks a lot
Great video...Thank you! Will this work for the following? I am trying to connect a Shure SCM-268 mixer to a Panasonic HC-V785K Camcorders’ Mic input jack. I don’t think an XLR to 3.5mm cable is a legit way to go but I would certainly appreciate your thoughts.
Yes
very good video. thanks. now I feel like I should use non syncing
Hey I have a question about Zoom! I’m trying to create a professional but simple videoconferencing setup. My thought is an A6700 with 4K USB streaming with a H5 interface connecting to a MKE 600. So then everything just comes out of camera, no need for a USB audio interface, making it easy to move the setup as needed. I’m worried about the compression effects you mentioned at the end, will USB streaming from camera still compress to AAC?
So what XLR mic can I use to just go XLR to 3.5mm TRS directly without any recorder or power supply?
Question. I got the Rode NTG5 and I have the Saramonic LC-XLR to lighting microphone adapter cable. If I was to get the H5 would I be able to connect the LC-XLR to the H5 right to my iPhone? Thank you in advance.
Is the 'Line Out' from the recorder a direct analogue signal from the mics ?
@Audio for Content Creators So does the H5 have phantom power? Also, if I am understanding you correctly, I want to use a Rode NTG4 shotgun mic for streaming, and after watching this it seems as if my audience won't hear any difference between the Rode and a $30 lav mic from Amazon? BTW I am on a gaming laptop and I could hear a huge difference between your audio A&B tests. The baked-in audio actually had more bass, but it sounded almost clipping and the highs were not as defined.
Question: what are your thoughts on recording music?
Bravo! Great video
Well explained.
Can you do this with a Scarlett interface.
Great video thanks
You never explained why/how the sync audio to video is some tedious or complex. I see pros (like you) talking about how external audio is such a pain. I'm a noob and I just do it in like 3 clicks. So I am clearly missing some level of quality or some complexity. Just curious if you were going to reveal that secret. Why do the pros claim it is some massive amount of work? Neat video but I'll stick to my select the video/select the audio and click on "sync audio/video"
Really depends on the project. If you’re doing talking head videos or a sit down interview, it’s really easy to sync everything. When you start getting to multiple cameras, multiple recorders, dozens of locations, etc. for those who aren’t well-versed in production and don’t want to take the time to make sure everything is labelled and organized correctly, they’d prefer to just have everything already together. If you vlog for an entire day where it’s let’s say 300 clips, most people don’t want the extra work of syncing all that for them/ their editor in post.
Thank you so much!
Great job
Great video
I like the Baked in compressed audio better, 😂😂😂
its just about audio converter quality
How do you know all this?
I went to audio school 15 years ago. And... continuing education online makes it easy to keep learning.
Great video but there end result is still poor quality compared to the 24 bit wav file.
100%
1:38 - what’s that hood thing on the G85 called? And what does it do? I have a G85 i’m tryna upgrade the f**k out of it 🤣
It's a teleprompter.
Hey Brian, I really like all your content, some tips are top notch, however there is a huge problem with your channel. The channel name is basically no-name. No brand. It's very difficult to search and re-find your videos again, if I want to re-watch them. Why? Well, you basically have no name, no brand. I end up typing something like "boom mic setup for content creators" or similar just to find your specific videos - but your videos are always down there somewhere on youtube. It would 1000x easier, if you had some easy to remember brand name that no one uses, e.g. AudioBrian or BrianSound or BMAudio or a made up word like BRIADIO / BRADIO / SOUNGE , or a composition title like "Brian Miller - Audio Academy"
Susbcribe and notification bell ;) Seriously though, the reason is to avoid confusion with my personal brand that I make a living with, my name, which has nothing to do with audio at all.
Baked-in actually sounds better, but it's just because you didn't adjust the raw wav volume to match the loudness of built in audio. The 1-stage audio data-compression trick is super cool, thanks!
yeah, well it sounds richer but actually the flatter signal of the uncompressed is the better signal because it can be worked better. But I hear you I like the baked in sound too, but his point was it was the raw file, that can then be produced in post to make you sound like god.
I agree! Seems like this parallels a jpgs vs raw discussion..and jpg DOES look better straight out of the camera ...but you can surpass that with raw
hello thanks the for your video very useful, also maybe because you use Lumix g85 in mp4 which use aac there is a loss, maybe with a better camera ? if you register in mov directly with lpcm, audio file baked inn, maybe the quality is better similar to the wav, or more close ? not sure but I continue my investigation ...if you have some thought about it thx for sharing and your time.
Thanks. I was wondering why my Sennheiser shotgun mic sounded better plugged into my Zoom H5 compared to when I plugged it directly into my BMPCC.
Being using this line out method recording from my podmic through Zoom Podtrak P4 to my iPhone 11 Pro
Awesome.
The baked in audio actually sounded better 🤔
Thanks a lot brother ❤️
Subscribed ❤️
Can I do this with JUST a mini xlr cable? My 3.5mm input doesn't work on my Mark iii 5D, and I want to be able to use a mic boom set up out in the field.
I have a job in five days. I hope you see this. Would this video be applicable to a ZH1 and a Sony A7III???
An awesome video as per usual, Brian! 😆👍👍 As ever, I appreciate you for taking the time to highlight the best way to get highest quality audio possible, especially if you're wanting to use the baked in method as opposed to editing and syncing the audio & video in post-production. ☺👌
Personally, I'll always opt for the recording externally then syncing and editing in post 99.9% of the time, however, even with that being said, I'm sure there'll be occasions where the baked in method come come in handy. 🎧📷🎤
Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
anyone here know if there’s a audio workflow (i.e. order of operations) for fairlight? or audio in general?
for example, like resolve's "image processing order of operations" for color?
-colton 🤟🏼
My Sony ZV cam isn’t picking up my mic’s audio. Right now I’m using wireless go II. Waiting for an aux cable to line out my hn8 zoom.
does this work with the h1/h1n zoom?
Hi dude , you demonstrated the two way system to grab audio straight in to the camera using the audio recorder and the cam, is there a three way to add a short gun mic like the Boya Bm 6060 to that connection ?
very informative video. Especially the compression part. Thanks a lot.
Hi
Zoom h5 is too expensive. Is there any cheaper replacement?
I love ❤️ it
TRS to USB C if ypur phone doesn't have a aux port.
How would you accomplish this wirelessly? :)
Does it get recorded as a stereo channel in camera?
hello, do you know if i can put a tentacle sync system on my Zoom H8?
4:00 - 4:39
That is music to my ears, that timeframe of video right there is EXACTLY what i wanted to goddamn hear 👂🤩🤩🤩
I have a Lumix G85 and i wanted to connect a Shore SM7B to it - and that part of this video nearly gave me a stiffy !! 💪🏼
Excellent video. Thanks you! Cheers from Italy
¿how to export a music video clip so the audio "the master" dont suffer quality lost?
ahhh ok i see :) thanks
Thank you for your presentation. I would appreciate your feedback. I want to connect my GH-6 camera to an event sound board via an xlr (stereo) to my camera 3.5mm trs cable. would that work? Thank you for your response.
Thanks for the video. Helps a lot. I would like to modify this approach using the Zoom F3 and the line out connected to a Wireless GO II transmitter. Any suggestions?
Wow, this video made my day.
This is similar to the irig pro set up im using to just being able to play live drums along to backing tracks. All I needed was just the splitter cable.
Excellent. Thanks.
Very good content... Thank you
can you separrate the audio after using the backed in camera out put method to then upload as an audio podcast ? or is that not neccesary ? would I still be able to retrieve the audio only from the zoom h5 or h6 ?
Dude! You should consider what Fuji does with their cameras and allows you to select line level or mic level for the microphone port. I select line level and use a very good external Sound Source and this is all RUclips needs for the highest quality conversion
Great video Brian. Hope you’re well, mate. Steve.
Do you have a set up for an on the go video shooter? I rig up my Sony a7iii with the rode video mic, I just ordered the zoom h6, I always keep a pair of good over-the-ear headphones on me. I also shoot bts on small sets as well and I dnt have boom man. I want better sound and do want sound to sound far away. So I would need help setting that up because I have a job in a few weeks. Thx ya for video and much love from GA
Is there something about syncing frames (like 4 frames) because the travel of the audio signal gets the sound very slightly behind the video (even connected)? (or is that something else?)