Patch 14.4 | Kobe and Meteos beg Phreak for Buffs | The Dive
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Dive! Azael, Kobe, and Meteos are joined by Phreak and talk Dev, Patch 14.4, win rate, and balance. The gang also gives their takes on the best and worst champions. After picking Phreak's brain, Meteos and Kobe couldn’t help themselves and beg him for buffs.
Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for next week's episode!
0:00 - Intro
2:59 - Worlds, LCS beating LEC
3:58 - Phreak updates
7:20 - Dev Talks and balance
14:13 - Builds, win rates, and new framework
21:56 - Worst champ in the game?
26:40 - K’Sante
41:58 - Patch talk
45:23 - New roadmap for gameplay, more patch talk
46:27 - Grubs
51:58 - Twisted Fate
55:36 - Ghost and power level
1:10:24 - What’s the game really about?
1:14:43 - Items, champs, and win rate debate
1:26:33 - Rek’Sai
1:36:34 - Volibear buff, Jungle Meta, and one tricks
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I’ve got a pitch for volibear: every time he ults there’s a 5% chance he does a 360 in the air and a 1% chance for a 720, the spinning dunk would go SO hard
Guys see this and think "hell yeah"
Dunkmaster Volibear when?
What a dumb idea.
I am 1000% all for it.
Hell yeah
bruh i love dunking too.. fuck with this hard
Happy to see PHREAK doing some content. Phreak & Kobe was the classic casting duo who LCS viewers grew up with and I still miss Phreak as a caster. With Meteos there as well, I half expect them to announce today's Featured Matchup between C9 and Vulcun TechBargains! Those were the days.
How can you possibly miss phreak as a caster??? He was the absolute worst!!!
@@einarbarenholtz5952 Clown take
Im just gonna float this emotional whatever this is, out there... It is SO bizarre to me, that this game is just barely old enough now, that kids started saying shit like "I grew up with." I was already an adult when league came out so, fuck. This isnt like growing up with Bill Nye or Mr. Rogers, these kids are talking about growing up with shit from 2009... FUCK.... Im old :(
That's so nuts hearing about how Sylas top alone can inflate the champs entire win% just from it countering one champion. Love hearing stats like this, since with how big scalewise League is there are just so many angles you can look at the data.
I also looked up the stat he said about senna being seraphines support in 25% of the games and its really true. I was shocked
This is why you can't look at data at statistics individually and why many data tracking websites for League have multiple metrics like Win Rate, Pick Rate, and Location played. This is a much better way to understand champion strength in an individual role.
This is some of the best League content we've had in a while. Getting to hear Phreak talk a lot about the tools they have and the reasons why the balance team works the way it does makes me feel a lot better about the state of the game, even if I think they royally fuck it up sometimes.
This episode was SO GOOD. I love hearing Phreak's thoughts and approaches to the game, especially when the data can be easily misunderstood.
I swear the Dive episodes this season have been some of my favorite in a long time. Episode one with our lost compatriot Mark, Meteos joining the squad, and Phreak making an awesome cameo, bless.
Absolutely loved hearing all the comments from Phreaks side of the scene. The particular comment about Maokai being giga OP for years and no one had any idea was so cool. Huge thanks to Phreak coming on the Dive. Miss your casting man.
Dive squad, best content in the scene bar none. Makes every Thursday a banger
Phreak talks like he's on 1.25x speed when he speaks after meteos
I think he is lol. Look at the movements here 28:35
yes i've checked like three times to make sure im not actually sped up lol on my video
I checked as well! Phreak talk is supernatural!!
I thought I was the only one to notice that
I read "Kobe and Meteos peg Phreak for buffs" and I was like "what the actual hell"
That episode’s behind a paywall
Nah that one's Patreon only
Gotta do what you gotta do
I would pay so much money to see that.
@@bingusworshipper😮
It’s a pretty good idea to have Phreak in here for this week while LCS is on break and they have nothing new to talk about for that.
Literally the ONLY good thing about LCS break lol
Phreak actually really on top of his game! Remember that we did NOT get this much explanations and discussion ever previously around balancing etc. Having someone so outspoken as Phreak, sharing his thoughts every patch, and even tanking any questions like this like a pro is really appreciated! I know there are cases where we might feel that his point is off, when he defends a balancing that people experience as something else then he sees, but that is just details and obviously we have different information on each side. I feel like he is doing a good dam job!
Lack of mana turned Phreak's hair gray
He just needs to acquire a few World Runes.
Nah its either the lighting or he dyed his hair more gray for this, if you check his channel his hair colors way more normal, still has gray in it but its not pure gray like here
@@a_level_70_elite_raccoonHes gonna end up bald if he does.
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I forgot how eloquent Phreak is. Major respect to him for trying to be open and transparent about the process!
Phreak does a really good job of answering personal grievances disguised as tough questions.
Example?
Really enjoyed getting to hear Phreak's perspective on the game holistically and the balance team's viewpoints as well.
Hearing Meteos & Phreak talk about balance and agreeing on several things really I think points to how intelligent Meteos is as a player, and it's nice to hear him get to be a bit more serious than with Sneaky & Doublelift, despite how much I enjoy listening to the Tri-Cast.
thanks for coming on Phreak, it was really cool hearing from your perspective. you took the suggestions and feedback like a champ and I appreciate you hearing out the guys on their ideas even if you know they wont ever work in the live game.
Fire content to keep us entertained while LCS is on break 🔥🔥🔥
Meteos' cook for lvl 1 invade is great.
All suggestions seemed pretty good though aswell!
I wonder if K'Sante would benefit from a 'tired' like mechanic, where after his ult ends he loses the healing and extra damage but doesn't immediately regain his armor and magic resist
That would be cool.
Awesome idea!
PHREAAAAK goddam i miss him dude. fire podcast. didnt see all of it but its already one of my fave episodes so far. Also Meteos adds so much value as an ex pro and personality. probably the best decision made to make him co host
Phreaks takes on champions arent always the best, but one thing you gotta give him respecc and credit for is how transparent he is and keeping the community aware of why he wants to put out specific changes. He definitely cares about the game, and thats nice to see that level of transparency on the process
such a treat listening to Phreak
He uploads all his toughts on his channel every patch notes
@@mikevos4460 i'm subscribed to him but i feel like he's so much more eloquent when with others, especially his classic casting partner kobe
@@jckauffman6004Yeah true, think in his own video's he can't feel the time to tell himself to pause real quick so he just keeps going on 200% speed
Thanks for coming on phreak! It's nice to see communication between game developers and the community. I was thinking about it, and as far as I know League is the only game where the company will send out regular player feedback surveys to the community instead of just an AMA thread. Ty riot. I often have problems with the balance, but I recognize that Riot already tries to cater to players.
Phreaks eyebags and greyness makes me wonder how hard he is working at the balance team.. hope the community takes it easy on him. Hes been there always and definitely cares about the game.
I agree, I cannot believe he is only 36... Isn't that crazy?
This was BY FAR my favorite episode of any NA content this year, probably of all time. Hearing the balance team perspective, seeing all of the things they look at to determine whether to actually touch a champ (e.g. the Maokai thing), it's so cool and makes me respect that side of the game so much more.
„Make the game holistically“ - good stuff phreak and riot!
This might be the best Dive Episode yet and I loved all of them. More of this pls. This neerdy insight into numbers and metas is what I need more of.
this was a great episode to watch and listen to some insights, thanks and greetings from europe!
Man I'm really starting to look forward to these!!
Loved this episode! Thanks for the great content this year! ❤
This is an awesome episode. I love hearing some of the ideas that go into balancing.
Meteos' sweater is fire 🔥 Also love that Meteos is always willing to change up the game 😂
Damn my friend was playing dead man’s rush maokai support last year, I gotta let him know he’s a genius
Really great episode. Love hearing all the details that goes into balancing, and what everything thinks about the changes to league
Happy to see Phreak back!
The entire video is the dive members pitching Phreak on their balance changes LMAO
This was the perfect episode to fill out the gap in LCS. Super informative; I always like getting all of your opinions on game balance at both levels of play.
this was a great episode, easily one of my favorites this season. I'd love to see more guests on the show with you guys.
hahah that Darius post was CRAZY. I'm glad you brought it up.
This season is the best season so far. You guys are knocking it out of the park every ep.
I have always missed Phreak on the casts! This was a great episode, and I'm so happy y'all keep delivering great content.
Lets go! Love the dive! Yall keep up with the good work! Oh and Meteos addition is huge this year!
Damn bro, moving to balance team straight up turned his hair gray
He might've been coloring it to maintain appearance / brand as a media personality, but now he can just be phreak the regular dude
what hair?
Loved this, as always
Yay Phreak! The Dive has always been enterntaining but this season in particular has been good as Meteos being a former player has added a different dimension tbh. And having Phreak on was super insightful. Im so happy i got to attend worlds and hear Phreak cast IRL. Def miss them both but hopefully on to better things!
I’m always happy to see phreak on the dive
I love watching these shows. Great job everyone
Really liking the show so far!
This episode was the best to listen to super informative great job!!!!
phreak is really the soul of league, man. what a dedicated lad.
I absolutely love me some Phreak action, it was super interesting to see the logic behind how the game is balanced and its made me appreciate the state of the game a lot more. Thank you Phreak for still being willing to come out and talk, I know that you get a lot of undeserved hate from corners of the community and I just want to say that we appreciate you and the live pod team.
really enjoyed that
Last season I was spamming graves top with heartsteel and titanic hydra, into stuff like sterak's and frozen heart. Basically just to stack heartsteel/grasp against melee tanks and avoid losing until I had 8k hp and was an unkillable tyrant. It wasn't very strong and was very easy to punish in the first 25 minutes against anyone with an idea of macro (Just push in the graves with 80 AD pre titanic). However, I'm also in Iron. For some reason, mobafire started recommending Grasp/Hearsteel as Graves top Rush in NA if you tracked Plat/lower in the filters, presumably because I had the highest WR (like 72% across 100+ games). I have to say, I've never felt pride as much as the moment when my friend told me his duo partner started copying my build in Silver and went 0-14-0 and logged off for the day.
This is awesome lmao
haha wtf
Listening to phreak talk about the game always makes me want to play more!
best episode yet!!!
A Phantastic episode illustrating the crazy complexity of League of Legends.
I actually really loved this episode. Not much of a stats person but I found Phreaks insights so interesting.
Would love to see one of these after a big patch each time.
PS. Petition to get a video where one tricks bring QOL updates to phreak and he gives feedback.
Best episode of the Dive ever. Loved seeing game dev Phreak come back to talk about everything League.
I just want to say that when phreak said when you autopilot rec(ommended) items sometimes you get rekt. I appreciate that pun. I cringed. but I appreciated it.
Loved this episode ❤❤ sad it ended so soon even though its almost 2 hrs lmao
On the idea of the trade off items- In Smite they had items that would mess with your stats to align your character with different classes. My favorite was to use certain mages as support, take the tank item, and now i do way less damage but i didnt get vaporized on the frontline. Annivia in League would be a fantastic character for this item.
Love to see phreak here! Amazing diacussion. I may not always agree with the balance changes but Phreak always explains the reasoning
Also IM PERMA BANNING SHACO FUCK THAT CHAMP
BIG BRO PHREAK
There's a lot of good proposals going straight to Phreak and I like the possibility. Summoners having groups you can only pick from is really cool or Flash default and 1 other choice. Biggest problem with the game is not banning bought accounts until they are sold and tank a few dozen games and the needing over 100 hours to unlock ranked at level 30
Ngl I never watched the dive but now that Meteos is on I’m so excited to watch and catch every episode
You missed out on so much
Great video
I never liked league podcasts before. But the dive and talking with pro's is some great content
ty phreak for coming on the dive!
Can't agree more on the summoner spell change. That would really make the game fresh
On the DFG Activation point that Azael brought up, I remember in recent years one of the casters bringing up the point that roughly as high of a percentage of players didn't use Varus W Active, and I can't recall fully, but I want to say it was even just in pro play.
I could watch an entire regular segment where the Dive guys pitch balancing ideas to Phreak.
I agree with Meteos. Leashing sucks, I kinda understand where Phreak comes from, but leashing should have been removed a long time ago.
Preak speaks like I have the video on 1.5 speed
For me he speaks like I have the video on 2.0
But that might be because I have the video on 2.0
More of these kinds of episodes please! Love the back and forth of ideas that could improve the game.
More of this please
Ohh man, i loved the stats runes so much.
You could go full armor runes on a malphite or a chogath and just outrade a Riven bit hitting minions ignoring her. Was very fun.
Phreak ❤❤ 90% of the community loves you. Ignore the haters please and keep doing what you are doing.
Dear production team, could you please add tooltips for the items or buffs they talk about? Thanks
Top lane with lane advantage takes 1 grub, each jungle gets 1 grub too Pog!
Holy phreak the legend
Phreak is awesome. We love to see him and love to watch him get hardballed by the dive cast. Handles it like a champ and we get some awesome Info.
Phreak seems like one of us but cursed with too much power, i love this
Great episode. Hard disagree about leashing though. It starts the game off on the wrong foot not the right one.
At this point I kinda want Azael to just say that they will be taking community questions "next episode" as a running joke at the end of each episode lol
Really enjoyed pro play try to counter dev master mind. More of this please:D
Really sad to see Reksai in the unplayable state she is in right now. hope her Q orbwalking is hotfixed as she cannot q while shes moving or with any active items.
Well dang @kobe now I gotta go listen to Phreak’s channel! Lol 😂
Would love just flash as preset and like 8-10 other summoners where you can only choose 1 but do a lot. Then you can buff a bit jungle/summons and items to balance the lack of flexibility. You already get that a bit with jungle items
Love having to skip the first 30 seconds. Really makes my day >:(
Using active items in a team fight is already a bit funky whether using mouse buttons or keyboard options. I don’t like the idea that an optimal build might require use of all 4 abilities, proper spacing and 5 item abilities. That sounds bad to me. 1 or 2 as is, is plenty complicated enough.
What about Flash being turned into an item similar to Blink Dagger in Dota2? It would open up the possibility of opting into Flash during a game instead of before it and even upgrading that item, again like Blink Dagger.
For item Actives they need to make it more more clear that items have an active when it is in your inventory. Most players are just buying items they see in a guide and don't know everything the items they buy are doing. I just found out a few months ago that Randuin's has an active. I always just bought it for crit protection.
Such a Phreaky episode.
If it doesn't get covered in this episode, i would like to know thoughts on "unconventional" supports (like camille) beginning to shine (personally a big fan of more variety for us support mains) and if riot is okay with this and not going to gut them to be unplayable.
May I interest you in Annivia support? You have a stun, a wall to block off adcs with no mobility, an AOE slow, and a guardian angel at level 1 so you can trade heavy in lane.
Phreak talks so fast. His brain must work better than mine.
Ive got a design pitch. I hate how theres a hexgate in same location as a blast cone by blue buff. When i try to click blast cone to escape away over wall, i click gate and then die. Separate these please. The blast cone can be moved preferably
So the question I have for the K'sante discussion is is this just going to be the evolution of tanks going forward? K'sante has like what 3-4 identities and thats the problem hes a tank/dps that can carry why does he also get an unstoppable. Its fine for Udyr because he doesnt have 5 dashes to get in the Ram invuln rounds out his mobility k'sante it just seems like its an extra cherry on top of an overloaded kit.
Don’t forget to reference the top right “average win rate observed” on lolalytics. It puts everything else in context.
Listening to this as it was filmed pre-patch is funny cause currently it looks like Mao'kai jungle is gutted and Mao'kai support is still Thanos.
More Phreak visits please
i love u phreak ! i supoprt u for 10 year now