JVN and Keke talk the Dax drama and growing up | Baby, This is Keke Palmer
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Who better to dismantle the conservative agenda than activist, author, and reality TV star Jonathan Van Ness?! This week, we share our unfiltered opinions on all things controversial from JVN’s interview with Dax Shepard to conservative Christian camps’ indoctrination. And you won’t want to miss JVN’s hot takes on “Questions that NEED to be Answered” like his biggest fashion flop, and what editors made him cut from his latest book. Plus, Keke’s back with her ICONIC impression of VP Kamala Harris…you know the one!
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I could listen to JVN and KeKe talk forever. Convinced they’re both going to save the world
Keke Palmer for president and JVN for vice president 🎉
But they aren’t going to.
@@vmezaaa Yeah. That oughta cause your (America’s) downfall.
Dang. No wonder Keke is such a solid, smart, good-hearted person. Her mom and dad seem so real and empathetic.
18:00 Dax Shepherd Convo
This is two friends having a real conversation. I love it.
Keke, that first conversation you had with your mom had my jaw on the floor!! Especially regarding what your teacher had said to you about being careful with your influence as a kid - such an amazing thing for kids to hear. So dope.
You two are a match made in whimsical heaven, needed conversation.
when two brilliant and beautiful minds come together, magic happens. Thank you Keke for holding this space for us.
So many things can be true at the same time! Giving non-duality. Love you both
8:29 “ I DO know that man’s name” - full circle moment 😂👏🏽
Wow! Both of you, magnificent! Well said at least 10 times each!
"how the worst people in your society are doing is representative of the whole!" made me gasp. this is my first time listening to keke's podcast and i'm instantly hooked. these are some truly incredible talking points especially in the section about capitalism.
Bring JVN back I didn’t want this conversation to end!!!!
I could listen for HOURS 🎉 I feel less insane seriously because whyyyyy doesn’t everyone think like this 😭
JVN and Keke just need to have a podcast together. This isn’t long enough.
This was so great so great to listen to. I appreciate everything JVN and Keke had to say.❤
This video made me so bipartisan it's not even funny. I love you JVN and Keke. Literally made my whole world that much clearer after this conversation
When Keke is talking about how motherhood made her like Mike Tyson and then she goes "you don't even know Jonathan" and now we all know what she's been going through. I love that she didn't let it break her, but is realizing her power.
Love this podcast
Love JVN so much! Another amazing podcast!!
This was a great convo ❤
so good! Loved watching!
I wish they had a podcast or show together or something, they are everything!
This was great! ❤ love both of them
Jonathan!!!! Yuyeesss
I've been subscribed to Dax's podcast for awhile on Spotify and JVN's episode was the first I listened to. I was so excited for the conversation bc I LOVE JVN, I love Dax's movies and his relationship to his wife, but I'd never heard his podcast or opinions until Jonathan's episode. I was heartbroken listening to it. And i'm quite surprised and enraged to find out that it was edited without JVN's consent. Super interesting stuff.
Dax is an amazing man. He is very much supportive about all the issues JVN is supporting and I know that from other episodes. I dont know what happened and I am very sorry.
@@alexiaherczeg4357 He's not supportive of trans people. Pay close attention to what he says and how he acts in other episodes. Not only did he not apologize, he was liking hateful comments on the IG post promoting the episode. Vile.
@@erintheokay thats not true. I did listen closely to every episode and he was just as always asking questions that the other side often asks so someone can answear them. He does that on a lot of different topics. Now i dont say that this was done right but I am sure that they didnt mean harm by this. Also he apologized during the episode. And I do understand JVNs side too but I think this is a missunderstanding and Dax did express that he doesnt have anything at all against trans people a ton of times.
@@erintheokay Agreed. His own actions show he isn’t supportive.
@@alexiaherczeg4357 It *is* true and the devil doesn't need any advocates. He's not a hard-hitting journalist and when JVN was tearing up, that should've been the cue to hit the brakes, not the gas. Furthermore, Monica has changed (or at least now she's sharing who she is) and is completely out of touch as well. Example: when talking about unnecessary neighborhood noise affecting folks with PTSD, she said some vile shit about how we "can't structure our lives around others." They seem like shitty people but there's a seat for every ass and folks will still listen.
Keke and JVN are such bright lights of human beings.
This is THE episode! How did I miss it. ThankYou truly Keke I love jvn. I knew he was my boo from the playground🛝🤸🏿♀️
KP was up for Half Nelson? Would've been amazing but a different film entirely, glad Mr and Mrs. P put their foot down on that one.
I'm having a new podcasts only day today, so glad I found this episode in particular.
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Yassss
Can we have all the queer guys on! Love their interviews ❤
I would not say I 'enjoy' people talking about oppression as that word just seems so one-note for the broadness that one experiences when hearing people speak their truth, but when I tell you I *enjoyed* this *entire* conversation, from the struggles to the love and relatability, this was such a good listen, filled my cup up to the brim ; . ;
NO HUMAN IS BORN SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER ‼️‼️‼️❤️
Yes give the black girls some praise! 🙌🏾 We’re always holding everyone down but who’s holding us down?? 💜
This was beautiful. Keke, thank you---you rule as ALWAYS. And JVN, thank you for sharing a bit more on the traumatizing interview with Dax. You are being more dignified and respectful than how you were treated. The Dax-Kristen/Ashton-Mila world is a weird one and Dax displays psychological issues with his wife being more successful---I wonder how much of that fuels his "beliefs."
love yallll ❤ so much!!!
Gen X raising Gen Alpha, look out. Love this Keke and JVN forever.
Love that y’all was on Sesame Street btw ❤️❤️
"the agenda is to save lives" YES KEKE
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Love thisss!! Keke is so well researched an spoken. I just wish, we could have listened a bit more about JVN. Felt like Keke had a lot so say but, but did not let JVN talked that much. Don't get me wrong, everything she said was ON POINT, but felt that she took most of the podcast to talk instead of letting JVN de the talking. Just maybe a suggestion for the future? I don't know.
BUT loved either way.
Wow why do I just saw this show where do I live don't know she has this show. This is a good show love me some keke
Keke you're beautiful and eloquent. Your mom is phenom. JVN, Thank you for your voice and leadership. Dax... Absolutely get REKT!!!
Yes to the magnificent seven😂 we all loved them especially michelle kwan
Keke! Let him talk bby girl 😂😂
I was just saying thissssssss 😢
Keke is everything
besides both of these individuals having wonderful brains, keke is so BEAUTIFUL like wow. face goals
I’m the type of person who believes people should do whatever they want to do and live how they choose. With that being said I’ve spent my entire life in athletics and around top tier sports. Nobody in their right mind can think trans women playing sports with biological women is fair or good for sports. Absolutely zero argument to believe otherwise.
This what I been saying about artists they the ones these young kids looking up to.
37:54 girl yes!!!
Things are "rebranded" to push the same agenda.
I so appreciate this conversation! I've always seen a more lighthearted version of Keke represented in the media, it was really cool to see/hear her get real about the systemic injustices we face in this country. I wish they were running for president. JVN first since they're old enough, Keke as VP. And then by the time the next election comes around Keke might be old enough to run for president. We need to change this world! We need to change our country, because the systems that are set up are serving only a few and it is not sustainable. We're already seeing the cracks in our system and they're only going to get worse unless we start making real change, dismantling systems of oppression.
Jonathan pitching themself was so real 😆ikdr
1:40 Cmon shade 😩😂😂 She didn't lie though
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Keke so damn likeable gyat dang.
🚫 NY Times
Wow...it's giving dial up 😂
Keke, in your sister's defense, she's a FAMU Rattler🧡💚🐍 We can't help but be about THE BUSINESS. It's not just a Gen Z thing!😂
19:09 YES KIKI, YES!!!!!
THIS❤❤❤❤❤ALL THIS
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There is no nuance these days says Keke near the end. So true. I think it is because of social media. When you cannot read intent and meaning in the written word then people have learned to avoid being subtle or using sarcasm or anything other than saying things in a matter of fact, straightforward way.
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I think that the coopting of black female mannerisms by white gay men has a lot to with the fact that there are no examples of men who are not preforming masculinity. In the void of "what are we without the pageantry of masculinity" the natural reaction (albeit predatory) is to take on the mannerisms of people who are safe and are frequently idols to gay men. Black women are frequently the heroes and icons and the people that gay men look up and in that vacuum of behavior a lot of gay men just don't know how to act literally so they default to the behaviors and speech of people who they care for and care for them.
There has never really been a surplus of men who aren't expected to preform masculinity so what they looks like and what a healthy gay mans behavior should be has never had the chance to be explored. i could go on and on but I'm not a guest on keke channel lol so ill hush up.
I want to state that this is not an excuse for appropriation just maybe an explanation for why its so common.
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Interesting perspective. You should be the next guest on the show🙃 We need a "fans call in" segment.
I like this talking point. It seems like gay/queer men/male presenting people of all races are portrayed as flamboyant on television and social media. I hesitate to say co-opt black women's mannerisms because not all black women are sassy, etc. It would be nice to see gay/queer men (and black women) with more quiet temperaments/personalities represented in television and media. I haven't perceived gay men as looking up to black women or black women, in particular, as caring for gay men. It seems to be more about the enhanced aesthetics and exaggerated personalities.
That’s partisan politics baby. Keep us arguing amongst ourselves instead of fighting those oppressing all of us. You shouldn’t of cut off that rant and kept that convo going. Keke, acknowledging those that are conspiring against us isn’t the same as believing that Swift is a satanic clone lol. Great conversation lovely humans.
18:55 LOUDER FOR THE ONES IN THE BACK
Jonathan brings up an interesting point about how gay culture has been so influenced by Black women because black girls were the only ones who stood up for their gay friends. 😢❤
I'm glad the Dax Sheppard podcast happened because JVN exposed Dax for being a toxic right winger
I actually don’t agree with that statement I don’t think it’s true that Dax is a right winger…they disagreed but that doesn’t mean he’s right wing 🤷🏽♀️ and it’s okay to disagree especially when it comes to how to raise children
@@cmssn87it’s not okay to demonize a group of people under the guise of “parental concern”. Just like what Moms of liberty is doing. Hiding bigotry under concern for children. This has been done historically
@@emilybenson6399Thats literally what JVN did
@@andyroosky No he didn’t.
He's also a narcissist
yall are NOT kidding about how satire falls on deaf ears of the younger generations
their tiktok comments are soooooo serioussss lololol
The only “drama” in that whole scenario was caused by Jon. Nobody else.
And KeKe you have discovered the Matrix! @39:53
It's so funny listening her mom talk on gay rights and the information is being put out on the internet. And then to hear her baby daddy Post the phone conversation of her screaming that Usher is gay. 😮
omg whaaaa
the armchair expert moment was very ironic considering both hosts are on hormone therapies and dax has tried to be open about challenging his masculinity ideals, but doesn’t seem like he is lol.
100% amen hallelujah. The agenda is to save lives to keep hate and control and judgement from killing people
Ma it’s givin dial up lol
Not the black Taylor Swift
the dax sheppard situation was disappointing. but i’ve noticed over the years of listening to his podcast, he’s a huge conservative who pretends to be in the “center.” he is consistently playing devils advocate when it’s not required, and it’s not fair to debate someone’s livelihood and oppressed existence instead of just listening. that was a moment that did not need to be challenged by him. if he were “open minded” like he says, he would have listened and done research. so sorry to jvn, they didn’t deserve that at all.
JVN should stop talking to these toxic people and think about his mental health. I understand he is an activist, but some of these people are taking an advantage of his kindness.
Kanakuk….
Heard JVN is allegedly abusive to staff. Please stop hiring this person and giving them publicity.
So I no what not 2
Yikes
Vote 💙 2024
Ostracized members of society become friends, over trauma bonding. Yes.
Young people have so much pain because we understand the past. Our bodies have wisdom. It doesn't take much to understand the past at this point when you take some time
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🐺wer u at bady🧔❤u so so much man Hercules 🧟
🐝 can try
Loved this. Jonathan is spot on. Why tf do old men care about women’s sports now?!
Because we have daughters? what kind of question is that?
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Omg the HIV chanting is odd but maybe they didn't laugh because Australia didn't shut down like the rest of the world. They didn't really have a pandemic! They shut down for two weeks and then went on to living their best lives while the rest of us you know. So maybe they couldn't relate and that joke just wasn't for them!
Bernie was on point until Palestine. PLEASE Keke and JVN, speak about Palestine!
What what your real mom loves me but I can't go that route thanks mom I 2 👶Bc out of me my
I like JVN and his positivity, but parts if this conversation was so odd.
Ive lost a lot of respect for JVN.
also, i dont think think that thinking women should have a fair shot in sport is brainwashing….
What did you not like that they said?
Lol you lost respect for someone being an activist? Oh, projection and bigotry.
You're talking as if cis men left and right have found some golden ticket that they can win by donning pigtails and changing their name and this is what's happening.
There's a handful of trans women who are in sports, very few. And even with those people are talking as if they are obliterating the cis women in their categories. A handful of trans women beat cis women and everyone is throwing hands.
Should there be parameters for under what conditions or at what point in a trans womans transition can she participate in a sport alongside cis women that would not equate her physicality to let's say doping? Sure, probably that's a great idea.
But excluding them completely or putting them into men's categories isn't a solution. I mean there's a reason why no one is talking about trans men in sports... cause visually wise they do not fit this scary idea of trans people into sports that conservative media have created by using the handful of trans women that have won over cis women in sports.
The last sports tournament that excluded trans women from their women's league is a chess tournament. How is that even about anything else but transphobia? Also to insinuate that across the board on most or all sports cis women don't stand a chance against someone who was born with an XY chromosome is redundant and sexist.
I absolutely adore keke…I used to like jvn but some of the comments and actions from him lately have turned me off him :(
Which comments?
Yeah you probably preferred him when he wasn't standing up for rights
This convo is gorgina!