British Army puts NEW Apache E model through its paces
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2023
- Apache helicopters from 3 Army Air Corps have been exercising in Scotland on the latest model of the aircraft.
663 Squadron - based at Wattisham Air Station in Suffolk - is testing out the new AH-64 E over the rugged landscape of the Highlands.
The soldiers have been based at Balado Airfield near Kinross and flying sorties over the north of the country as part of Exercise Wojtek Highlander.
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It’s great having the most advanced equipment but only if it’s in significant enough numbers!
You're right. The same can be said for our tanks, our soldiers and just about everything else we've got. The very best but very little of which ultimately reduces it's effectiveness, and it's honestly a shame because those who are serving put their all into it
MoD like their big ticket items.....shame they dont pay/treat the most important commodity, personnel, with the same vigor.
We're the third of fourth most powerful army in the world, given how small our country and population is, that is quite something.
@@importantjohn How do you work that out? We have a little bit of everything and a lot of nothing. They have said themselfs we'd only match Russas artillery pace for two days and they have been going at it for over a year. If we lost 10 of these heads would be rolling.
well to be honest we probabally don't even know if they will make much difference because yes they're great chasing the taliban about the middle east... perhaps a little vulnerable and pointless having now crew capacity in a real war
i wouldn't be banking on helicopters too much after watching Ukraine... maybe the entire concept of attack helicopter is a little dated unless like i say chasing taliban about the desert and mexico uses them for it's regular police work
we always have these old guys that apparently know best, like to get all upset if any US president dares try to retire the A-10
Seeing those fly over Scotland must be an amazing view.
Its just so iconic. LOVE IT!
Often see these flying around as well as F35 and F22 in my area of the UK.
@darrengreen7906 Lakenheath? not sure where else you'd see f22.
Chances are then, if you're seeing US F35s and 22s, the Apaches will also be US. Not these ones.
Apaches at Wattisham (AAC), F-35’s at Lakenheath (+ F-15’s: USAF) and Marham (RAF)… F-22’s not stationed in UK but visit occasionally
do they come with Royal Marines attached on the stubby wings as standard
It's an option that's sold separately. Technically it's a keg of beer, six boxes of crayons and instructions on how to properly use those items to convince a marine from any nation to attach themselves to the helicopter.
Wow those guys are really flying those Apache’s stunningly!
THUNDER! na na na na naa naa
THUNDER! 🎶🎶🎶🎶
Watched the team flying overhead past the Helix where I work. There is a webpage where you can apply to have a photoshoot.
👍 - Fantastic !!! 👍
... however ...
super sad that the British Army is far too small !!!
British army has big friends!
@@razonysame with Germany tho
@@FuriousFire898
Same friends.
@@roddeazevedo
Maybe so. But true.
Great video.
Glad To see UK fly's the Apache's. A well Armed UK tells Enemies to Think Twice .Cheers from USA
shes one hell of a locust!
AH-64 E it with the radar on top America called it the long bow!
Awesome helicopter!
My second-favourite helicopter after the Huey!
Nothing matches the looks and sound of a Huey!
I personally know the Project Manager responsible for overseeing the production of those large Radomes on top of the mast. It's incredible how much tech they pack in those things!
3 of these flew over me this wednesday I wonder if it was these 3 I was in York at the time
Correction: "US/UK most advanced attack helicopter"
I'm not sure what he means that it can carry more weapons as it only has 4 hard points. It always has with the AH64 A type, so does it now have wing tips weaponry such as AIM-92H stingers or AIMX9 sidewinder.
paul morgan your right, but it has never been used as the helicopter has no need for the weapon.
The newer helicopters can carry more advanced weapons, like drones, the JAGM, etc.
any records ever... in all history... of an apache using one of them sidewinders?
@@DarkShroom Nope. The hardpoints were never fitted. It was a proposal only.
More can mean wider variety...
Can’t wait til we start seeing these helicopters and aircraft flying with drones to scout for them
We need more that's the problem :|
we need more soldiers
@@THE_CRIMSON_FUCKXR Need more everything but the biggest thing lacking is political will
@@phooogle without a doubt
@@phooogle No, it's money. You know the stuff that's used to pay for things?
Apaches with Ghost riding protector drones , automated self control AI Drones with Satellite /GPS targeting systems
Throttle response is op on electric vehicles run circles around you
this thing needs long range high precision guided air-to-air or air-to-ground missiles
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Interesting and it continues to tradition of what the British military use to do during World War II which was actually buying American helicopters and then license produce them which is what Westland Helicopters was known to do so.
Explains why I saw 4 fly over Perth last week
You have good eyes?
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The description states that this is an AH-64 E, the same designation that the US uses, is that correct? Because UK-made Apaches have always been known as AH-1 in the past so this should be AH-1E.
What description it don’t actually say it’s the same the ones the British use are different to the Americans don’t quote me on this but I’m sure the first batch what they got wasn’t as reliable so they used rolls Royce engines again don’t quote me on this but the apaches the British use are more upgraded AgustaWestland company
Here I am thinking the E stands for hybrid 😂
Can these still be taken down with a .303 rifle by shooting the radar on top?
@@Tree.fiddy. an Iraqi did it already. I remember this because I was in the British army at the time.
Most conventional the Apaches and black hawks
K52 hold my beer.
I've been saying Apache wrong my whole life. I thought it was Apayche
Quite literally speed of lightening vs speed of fluid
Could have been built UK under license like the previous ones but Gov said NO.
@@user-mr4uo5mw9nour old Apaches were actually better than the yank model!
@@user-mr4uo5mw9n😂 the previous ones were built in the Uk under license with better engines than the US versions which were underpowered
Because there is only one company in the UK that builds helicopters and its not a UK company.
Westland built the last Apaches under licence
@@garagenigel The British's old attack helicopters were bought as a kit from Boeing. The Limeys used their own RR engine in those, which had to be derated due to the limitations of the transmission. Nothing about it was better. It cost more money and the British had a very very small number of engines made for those, which also cost a lot more money.
The USA uses the same engine family in the AH-64, AH1, UH 60, etc helicopters. The Limeys had 67 AH 64D (aka MK1) attack helicopters. The US Military has thousands of attack helicopters and utility helicopters. Guess what engine is less expensive to build and maintain?... it's not the British one.
The USA should not sell anything to the limeys. The British should spend a hundred billion pounds to design their own helicopter... and it would be junk like the Euro tiger helicopter.
@@willw8011 😂😂😂😂🇬🇧💪
Turning the most deadliest helicopter in the world into a more deadly helicopter. feel sorry for anyone who comes across it in battle 💪🏼💪🏼
Unless they have a MANPAD
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@@pymathus2283there is a chance that the apache can evade it with countermeasures, IR flares, manoeuvres etc
@@GuyWilson706 just like any other helicopter mate, crazy.
Ka 52 the best
As they say you can always tell which direction the ground forces are moving, just look for the broken down Apaches on the ground. Hopefully they fixed some of the issues that keep it from being a great chopper.
Need deploying to The English Channel for target practice on the boats. Save us a fortune on hotel bills.
I’m pretty sure we lost the war in Afghanistan……. But BAE Systems certainly came out winning though ;)
😉
I identify as one of these now
Ka 52 a tested beast..💪💪
Ka 52 baby
These babies chop up Reuters camera crews pretty good. Maybe not when poms pilot them though.
😊😊😊😊
AH-64E uk Army👍
The RAF is asking the Army how they can actually be flying sorties and training pilots etc. They're in a pickle. Help em out.
Helichopters!! you can't pat your head and rub your tummy and shoot rayguns, kilo bravo roger over.
It's too bad that Ukraine does not have these.
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not really the right tool for ukraine
Ukraine won’t exist this time next year
@@8731CordovaPrigozhin said Russia is loosing.
And he been right thus far.
Unless Russia proves itself as an even worse terrorist state, blowing up the ZZNP
They come with a HUGE ground sign and require years worth of training to maintain nevermind fly. Probably not the best immediate support package for our friends in Ukraine.
I can't deny though it would be good to see them tear up their intended targets.
@@8731Cordova You won't exist this time next year. With any luck.
Ugly call sign we loved you above us in Afghan
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fun fact: the apache was deliberatly made slow because it was designed for the US Army.... it is a helicopter, i dunno why we can't have some European Tiger's but i think in the UK we have to be careful about having too many different types of thing... so i guess it would be Apache or Tiger
You have it flipped. Apache faster and stronger.
Tiger is rubbish. Australia bought Tigers and have now announced they are replacing them with Apaches.
Also, Apache isn't slow... although not as fast as Lynx
You’re just full of false/bad opinions lmao.
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@@BK-uf6qr No, the Apache is not fast for an attack helicopter, it can be easily overtaken by much bigger transport helicopters.
IAF operates 22 of these.👌
They can give the orher 4 to ukraine or maybe whats left of the Dads british army.
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🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧BRITISH THE BEST🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
100 of these and 100 AW101 100 H145M 50 CH-47F 125 AW159 Wildcat 125 AW139M will make RAF a strong air force.
Rather have more jets. A handful of highly train squads of these is enough
Get 700 of each
@@waynemongo Well they are not americans, they have stupid politicians that don't know anything about Military Equipment and Military Warfare, so we have to be more realistic. But they can buy 500 tanks since poland is buying 1400 tank and over 600 artillery.
What the Australian Army should have gotten in the first place . . . . . . . 🇦🇺
One of the new gen der identities recognised by the Armed Forces in 2023.
"[sniff] It hasn't gone up against a worthy adversary yet" (read: [sniff] "it's not British")
Interesting video but very misleading title. Putting it through its paces? The video was mundane flying at best.
British are putting the few they have through training and evaluation, because it is new to them. No one ever said you would see death defying stunts.
Like we called "Leopard" tank "the Game changer ", but now we know that it is just a tank, same will be with Most advanced "Game changer" helicopter Apache. 🎉
Well tbf its a game changer for armies that are used to, and know how to use said items. Why people think you can just hand over advanced gear and people whove never touched them before, will know how to properly use them....is insane. I think there is a reason most NATO forces are in literal constant training.
@@lukak1774he literally called it a game changer in the video….
Exactly, it’s never faced a well equipped and well trained enemy, as good as it is, its just as vulnerable as any other combat helicopter we’re seeing today.
@@Jimmythefish577 well he was wrong, and I suppose I was also wrong lol.
Hi Ivan 👋
I wouldn’t like to see that flying in Ukraine. It would be an expensive fireball
Is the ka-52 not better than the Apache? Higher survivability, speed, agility and can fly without a tail.
Really!!
in warthunder yeah ahaha
Hi Ivan 👋
I'm not some shill I just think it's a good helicopter. Politics aside is it not a better helicopter?
The Apache has more self-defense systems that's just as important as the speed and weapons.
Wacha
my new gender role 😍
How'd you pronounce that? Apac-he or apa-she?
@@dominicstockton7102 Brilliant!👏😂😂😂
@@dominicstockton7102😂
@@dominicstockton7102Apach-zee
Time to hand it to the Ukrainians with 2 weeks of training. That should suffice.
Close air support seems like a prime candidate to be replaced by inexpensive and reusable UAS group 2 and 3 drones in the next 10 years or so. They had value in counter insurgency, but in a high intensity war over Taiwan or Ukraine, Britain and the US wouldn't want to deploy such expensive, manned airframes like Apaches in contested airspace.
Send 100 to Ukraine 🇺🇦
Will you retreat with your Apache when Russia come or you will continue in the air ?
But which is better an Apache helicopter or an A10 airplane?
Surely the A10 must be faster, carry more firepower and more resilient to enemy fire.
But the A-10 needs a runway to take off and land on, so in many contexts a helicopter is preferable.
And the A-10 is ancient. Tell me, just how many hours is on those airframes?
They are complementary machines NOT necessarily competitors! The two-person crewed Apache main advantage lies in its ISR capabilities - this allows it to build up a superior situational awareness for its own crew and for the ground forces in the area. This info can be passed up the chain & an A10 [or similar long range aircraft] might be called in or the Apache [or group of 2 or 3] can finish the job depending on circumstances. The A10 is far inferior in ISR due to being a solo craft without much of the "spy" kit carried by Apache. Horses for courses, mix & match.
In Afghanistan, troops would call for Harriers as CAS, then Apaches, then Lancers, then fighters and then A-10s.
I think that speaks for itself.
@@cerperalpurpose why was that?
It’s never faced a well trained, well equipped enemy though has it? It’s never faced modern day MANPADs operated by skilled operators. I’m not saying it’s not a good asset, I’m just curious to see how it’ll fair against a competent enemy.,
I watched a well put together presentation on "the end of the helicopter". The conclusion was that it comes mostly down to how the helicopters are used and operated more than anything else.
Fortunately the Russians are not well trained or equipped
Only nato is competent
lol ''the war in afghanistan''bwahahaha
They should give Ukraine a few of these - even the older variants would be a game changer.
Good for testing it out
But aweful propaganda if it got downed...
Scrap the AH.MK1s and you lose the ability to deploy from ships or amphibs. Do not follow the RAFs example of cutting capability for God’s sake.
E model is able to deploy from ships
@@Louis-ej1lx it’s engines haven’t been marinized.
Take them to ukraine asap
Ka 52 alligator will eat Apache in air to air role
hahahahaha. Old Soviet junk.
@darrengreen7906 and how old is the Apache btw?
KAK52 would have been tageted, missiles launched and on to the next target before the KAK pilot knew the Apache was even there.
😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣 Put down your drink. It's interfering with your judgement and perception. Your funny!
If they ever meet the KA52 will end up plowing the fields like the ones in Ukraine
Very cool. It's annoying that the army can't use Northern Ireland as a training ground again.
Why?
Why not?..
Why are you roleplaying vatnik?
What’s a vatnik? Why are you here?
Dork!
No point flexing your brand new equipment if your own airforce will only have 100 of these. You need to have 1000 of these to make you a force to be reckoned with.
They are not flown by the air force.
50, not 100.
Just 5 of these can turn a battlefield so 100 is more than ample and 1000 is completely overkill for a nation that isn't likely to go picking a fight with China.
The U.S. military has the best military equipment on the planet though.
though? Thats what they are talking about, muppet
Well the British challenger 2 tank is better than Abrams and most of American vehicles use British rolls Royce engines and parts.
@@elijahmckenzie9207 The Challenger 2 is in no way better than the M1. When it was introduced it had slightly better armor but it has essentially not been updated at all in 20 years thus the Challenger 3 program. I think you will find that the RR engines in US vehicles are all US designed and built engines made by Allison. RR bought Allison and just slapped their names on all of their engines.
@@SCscoutguy Challenger 2 always beats it in NATO challenges it’s come out top in like the past 3-4 years. Has better operational range, runs on diesel vs diesel jet fuel in the Abrams which is hard to acquire. Also the Challenger 2 has been updated frequently over the years like the addition of the Rafael trophy APS system since 2011.
@@elijahmckenzie9207 Just looking at the different records. Since 2007 (earliest record I could find) the Chally 2 has won exactly 3 NATO gunnery competitions. The M1 has won 5 and the Leo 2 has won 7. I am talking about actual updates and not bolting old APS or urban warfare kits. The FCS and thermals have not been updated on the Chally 2 at all since it was accepted into service. Ben Wallace talked about all of this at length when he announced the Chally 3 program.
The British Army is too small. We still need America to bail us out. It’s embarrassing….
Can always sign up mate 😅 16k a year 🤣🤣🤣 no wonder it’s so small
Disingenuous at best….you rounded down to 16k and after initial training it riser to a basic of 21.5k
Soon they'll start signing up the channel surfing dingy boys.
We live on an island. We need a strong air force and navy
@@Discoveryjamiemost people who join up don’t do so for financial gain, not everyone is motivated by money.
1:48 exactly this and this is why when I watch what is going on in Ukraine I'm baffled.
Like Ukraine isn't allowed to have this capability ? even AH-1 Super Cobras would help
Trench warfare died when air support for ground troops became a thing, yet Ukraine don't have these capabilities.
And don't tell me Russian anti air is all that good as it missed a storm shadow twice yesterday and besides you have to take out those AA's some how and no matter what platform and when, the pilots will get shot at.
I know this AH-64 model isn't an option for Ukraine and I wouldn't even think that, but all the AH-1's retired in 2020 would be fine and I can promise there is at least 50 of them in Arizona desert lol
Why did you end with "lol"?
Prince Harry as a few in his Garage.
He has a lot of unsold books in his garage.
@@paulhellawell5920 He bought most of them in order to be a best seller.
Prince Douchbag
Lend the old ones to Ukraine. They need them more than us right now.
Look russia that's an attack helicopter.
I will dispute this claims that this helicopter is the most advanced in the world just because you bought for a heavy price doesnt mean its the best thing around! The new EC 665 CN: TIGRE MK3 is a better machine, more agile, long range, amazing Top Owl targeting system with full night vision displaying in bought pilot eyes. The only thing why that chopper was not better suceeded was because of the usual suspect Germany that have sabotage the program cut their numbers for half no Auto cannon the most used piece of hardware in those machines all users using a diferent type of missile and ofcourse the German wanted a lighter helicopter and this was the death nail in that project, that macine should have at least a max take off weight of 9 tons and a new Engine like the Ardiden 3 from Safran or a upgraded version of the MTR 390 with a 1750shp
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Russian chopper is 100× better
source?
@@Juusp69 battlefield