My Grandfather was shot down over Germany and had a similar incident. The plane was going down and one of the crew wasn't able to bail out. He had to jump knowing the guy went down with the plane. Then he was captured and ended up in a German POW camp for the rest of the war. These guys went through quite a lot.
my grandfather was a child. here in oldenburg, he sat in a bunker (i think it was more of a basement than a bunker, they had to get the civilians somewhere) an incendiary bomb smashed through the roof, all levels, into the basement and landed behind his back. Dud. Now im here to write this comment.
My uncle was a B-17 pilot. They were heading out of Berlin. Flak hit an engine. They couldn’t keep up with the rest of the formation. Flying alone, 2 FW-190s found them. They attacked from in front and shot out the other engines one at a time. My uncle had said the fighters didn’t shoot at the fuselage. All crew safely bailed out. My uncle spent the rest of the war in a POW camp.
Boeing at one time was run by engineers, today it is run by accountants and MBAs, those folks would sell their mother's soul to the devil if it could save a penny per unit.
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Didn't know it was a USAF airbase for so long! It's now ceased being an airport however, its become a venue for expositions/conferences/festivals and the like. The buildings are largely the same however.
@@bitterlemon13 And that's what's bothering me. The buildings are the same today because the allies actively used Tempelhof as a landmark to target other parts of berlin - they actively avoided hitting that airport.
@@NardoVogt Thats interesting, I didn't know that. It makes sense though, as Tempelhof is situated fairly far West in Berlin, so it might have been used as a turning point for formations after they dropped their payloads on the centre of the city? Certain critical buildings such as ministries also had priority for fire brigades. It was to the point where if a crew of firemen were fighting a blaze in one part of the city, they would sometimes be ordered to immediately go to another to put out a fire in a building deemed critical. Tempelhof likely would have had such priority status, which would have minimised damage to it. I did read once that Hitler's personal plane, an FW200 Condor, was destroyed the ground at Tempelhof.
I know that they built Stukas at Tempelhof and that would make it a target. But, I have seen pictures of Tempelhof right at the end of the war and do not remember seeing any bomb damage there,
Makes sense. They knew that Berlin would fall and Tempelhof is the easiest way to bring in supplies directly into the city via aircraft. Either for themselves or their allies, the Russian Army.
@@SpaceTravel1776 GCI or Ground Controlled Intercept, is a defense tactic where one or more radar stations direct and guide allied fighters to an airborne target. Idk how it is related to this video though. (sarcasm)
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@@louietorres4363are you from the production crew? Honestly it was such a well made series. I shed tears watching the last 10 mins of the part nine as there was no such indications of it being the final part. I wish more such good films are made in future. Lots of love from India. Hope our moviemakers also produces such films as we too have a military history of that sort.
@@ashimroychowdhury3723😊 Glad to hear that Indians also liked this show. I'm also from India and I love this masterpiece. Hope they will make more like this. Peace 🕊️
My Grandfather was in 460 Squadron based at Binbrook, England. Flew as the pilot with Lancaster crew over Germany many times. Heavy casualties from their sorties. He returned and married, having seven children, passing in 2004 aged 83. R.I.P. 🌹
@@atzimtzum Do you know how many people were killed in Poland, Russia and almost everywhere in Europe by proud sons, brothers, and husbands of those he might have killed? Just asking....
My mother survived these events in the Potsdam region of Berlin. After the war, they boiled the wall paper to extract the calories from the glue for sustenance. She was about 6 at the time. She never hurt anyone. She watched her father get shot against a wall by Russian invaders. She married my American Army surgeon father after becoming pregnant with my sister. She never recovered from the horrors of her youth. She died of an alcohol overdose at 52 years old. It was mercy.
I didn't come along until the 1970s, and like most of us, find myself too young and far removed from that generation who fought and sacrificed in the big war. But even being of a generation far removed from them, as a teenager of the 80s and guy in his 50s today, I find myself constantly and respectfully comparing our society and our values today to that of that great generation, almost in a 'what-would-they-do' philosophy to address our issues today, with THEIR level of hard work, THEIR sense of duty and THEIR values. They were a generation that came up through the Great Depression in their childhood. So they took nothing for granted, were self-reliant, worked very hard and appreciated the smaller things. I carry SO much respect for that generation, and will to the end of my life. They've had THAT much of an impact on me, and I can only imagine there are a lot of others like me -- older and younger - who feel that same way. God Bless our WWII generation for what they sacrificed for the free world today.
This episode was fantastic. So sad it's over. I really hope that Playtone-Amblin creates another series. Please don't wait another 10 years before releasing the next series.
This show was a once in a lifetime experience! Loved it! Rosenthal was an absolute favourite, coming in mid way and stealing the show! Looking forward to enjoying it for many years more, just like Band of Brothers
I worked with a man who bombed Berlin. One day he brought in an original map they used to plan a route. Cal Worthington a one time well know car dealer in California flew 29 missions over Germany.
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The Soviet Union had multiple lines of defense during World War II, including the Moscow line of defense, the Stalin line and the eastern front. It wouldn’t be unusual to call a defensive line, “The Russian Line,” since two of the major defensive lines were located in Russia. I think in this context, “Russian” is being used colloquially to refer to the Soviets in general. However, as they are in the Skies over Germany, you’re right and obviously, an actual “Russian Line,” would be a fair distance away. Certainly not close enough to basically glide to, and then bail out.
The use of German rockets in the series was all over the place and not really tactically or historically accurate. This episode appears to show 2 surface to air rockets being fired against the bomber stream (one of which takes out the #1 engine on the lead bomber) even though the Germans developed, but never operationally fielded SAMs during WW2. That's one of many gripes I have with this series. The CGI looks more like a video game than a movie in several episodes too....but hey....at least it wasn't as bad as all the inaccuracies in Fury. :p
The rockets are based on rosenthals accounts - there where unguided SAMs used as well as improvised ones with anti infantry rockets. Rosenthal could’ve mistaken what it was as people in war do but the series just decided to portray exactly what he desceibed
@@prestonpendergraft7067 did Rosenthal describe flying a B-17F all the way up to the end of the war as well? Because that was portrayed in the series but not in real life. They should have switched over to the B-17G in 44' and depicted it in the series, but they didn't for inexplicable reasons. Especially considering most of the aircraft were CGI anyway.
@@Ricecookerrrrrrrrrrr soooooo there were no unguided surface to air missiles used operationally by the Germans during ww2. They developed like half a dozen different designs, but none made it into operation. The Germans did field air to air unguided rockets operationally like the R4M and BR21 (which was in fact an infantry rocket but was modified for air to air use, not "improvised" as you say) but once again this series shows their use in a really game like fashion with rockets flying in from every direction. In practice these rocket attacks took place by staffels from astern of the bomber stream at around a 1000 meters to stay outside of the defensive fire of the fortresses. None of this is exciting however, so the Masters of the Air people just decided to have it all look like a general melee in many of the air combat scenes with no sense of actual tactics or coordination. Just planes blowing up and rockets and tracers flying everywhere. :-/
i worked for a man named Alex Masterton who was shot down in a b17 and put in a pow camp in Poland . A few years later my dads friend Donald Hamill told me how he was captured at Dieppe and ended up with Alex in this pow camp. at the end of the war Donald and half the camp went towards the allies and Alex and some of them went to Russia were they were put in prison . He later escaped threw Vladivostok and made it home 10 years later .It wasn`t till after he died that some NY times guys showed up to talk to him about it (glasnost brought it out ). Donald verified this story and he also piped in the haggis at the armory till his death and was very credible . I still have the 45 slug he carried in case he was caught and some falcons/tigers eye from Africa he brought back from his escape route .
My grandfather’s war diary was classified until the early nineties. On his deathbed, he told us he was stationed at Tinian with the 509th Bomb Group. His crew bombed Nagasaki!!!
I'm trying to figure out what tf those rockets are supposed to be...Germany never had any operational surface to air missiles and they said in the voiceover that they were "uncontested" so that means no aircraft? Edit: No, the Germans did not deploy anti air rockets that were ground launched during the war, stop saying that. They said they are uncontested, meaning no airplanes, meaning no means to launch these rockets.
@@trey3rob seen every episode and it's literally never explained lmao what? These rockets come from below directly after they said they were uncontested that doesn't make sense
@@jacobpitts6846 Hmm make sense, either it mean the fighter shooting those rockets are cant be disrupted before the rocket launch or it was shoot far away and the fighter is dodging to another angle and the gunner cant shoot em
The uncontested was referring to airplanes. The German airfare had been decimated by this point. If you remember at the beginning of this series they would be attacked by the flack cannons then that would stop and German planes would start attacking them.
Notice how they had to pull a handle to get the door to open. Today's airframes do not require it, they just open whenever. Very convenient if timed correctly.
It’s entirely possible they were using the older models. By this point in the war the air force was using up any aircraft they could get their hands on.
You are correct in this case it would have been the Bombardier who has control of the B-17G front guns. Have they encountered people's Fighters He-162s then they need F-47N F-51H ( post World War II designations for P-47 Thunderbolt & P-51 Mustang) those two piston Fighters were designed to deal with the German People's Fighter
The VFX shots from inside the B-17 were superb (excellent use of the Volume). Once the camera starts flying through the air, that's when it feels a bit more like watching a video game. Otherwise it was very well done.
Saludos desde Argentina, me gustó la serie, aunque creo que tenía para más capítulos, hicieron poco énfasis a los pilotos afroamericanos de la Tuskegee, tienen mucho material ahí para hacer una serie, luego tenes a los personajes, así como Winters lo fue en Band of Brothers, yo me quedo con Rossie, ese hombre tiene unas bolas para ir al frente, no menosprecio el rol de Buck y Bucky, pero como es opinión personal, me inclino por Rossie, como mencioné, tuvo para más pero se conformaron con 9 capítulos, un par más no hubiese estado mal. Esos P-51 se llevaron todas las fotos 😎👍
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Tempelhof Central Airport appears to be the target. It had lost significance as the war went on. The large open bays were mostly used for aircraft storage and assembly of the JU87 by “Weser” Flugzeugbau GmbH. The JU87 was already deemed an aircraft that was being phased out. The Soviets neared the airfield in April1945 and found functional 88mm artillery and ammunition abandoned and turned the German canons against the opposing German forces still trying to defend the airfield area.
I haven't seen the show but the target was probably the Templehof rail yards in February 45. If you use the historical imagery on Google Earth you can see the rail yards are to the south-east right next to the airfield. Berlin-Templehof was largely just a repair facility late war and never saw much damage, production of the Ju87 ceased completely in 1944 with the Fw190F largely replacing it in the role. When it was captured by the Soviets they were assembling and refitting Fw190s in underground tunnels. Pretty incredible really, a little like the Soviets producing tanks in the tractor plant in Stalingrad. Whether they had pilots to actually fly them back out is another matter.
Not all older models were phased out later in the war. If the bomber was in decent enough condition and still airworthy to complete the objectives required, There was no reason to retire the aircraft. So its likely a couple older generation models that survived battles before the G models came out likely still flew alongside them to the very end.
Huh, that's weird, I know that the earlier B-17's without the chin turret stayed in service, but I can't find anything on if the USAAF stripped the paint off of them
@@AtleyAtienza Could've even been repainted in between Depot level Maintenance for heavy checks, after all any aircraft that made it a little longer in the war would still need to be checked at Boeing's specified interval periods.
My father was a B-17 navigator in the Schweinfurt raids in WWII. He never talked about it, but when WWII movies came on the TV I grew up knowing I had to change the channel. When the WTC attack on 9/11/2001 was on the news, he said that the last time he saw bodies fall out of the sky was over Germany. And then he got quiet. I didn't understand what he meant, until I saw this episode.
Probably a lot of people died this way. The g forces and wind would have been intense in a full dive not to mention injuries or trapped airmen. Depending how the plane fell and broke up in the air the plane might have slowed down enough at some point to give them a chance to jump.
It looks like the target was Tempelhof Airport. It was a circular airport located in the heart of Berlin. If you look closely, you can see the two parallel runways.
i was thinking the same, each second i was trying to see if he was dead or not. could've been still "alive" but pretty much would be dead within minutes or seconds either way
To be honest, not really. Fury concentrated on a single tank crew and how they worked together, etc. This feels less focused and is more about a few guys that served on theses planes and the huge losses they took. It's all a bit rushed. It's not really that riveting due to hamfisted treatment of historical facts, the british and CGI that feels really detached from reality. I'd Give Band of Brothers 9/10, Fury 5.5/10 and this 4.5/10. It's dull really.
there were times when the USSR and the USA were allies, times of brave heroes, times of honor and dignity. There will definitely be a world, any world, but a world. Greetings to all from Russia.
What are those spinning things at the tip of the bombs? Am I correct in assuming that they'll spin around a certain amount of times until they ignite the bomb?
I guess the wind while falling keeps them moving, when they hit the ground they will stop spinning due to lack of wind, and then explode after some seconds
@@Marquis_Philipp That can't be it. A simple impact-based detonator would do the same job. I think they're not meant to explode on the ground, where a great part of the energy of the blast is wasted on blowing up a crater. Rather, they may have a timed fuse to make them blow up just before the impact, with more destructive power.
It's part of the arming mechanism. As the bomb drops, the vanes wind a striker pin into position and when the bomb impacts the ground the striker pin is driven into the detonator and the bomb explodes. It was part of a safety mechanism designed to ensure the bomb couldn't easily be set off accidentally. If armorers dropped one on the ground or somehow impacted the nose of a bomb during transport the striker pin wouldn't be in position and so it wouldn't go off. The vanes would also be pinned with cotter pins so they couldn't rotate until they were loaded into the aircraft and I think the pins were then removed - although at least one movie shows crewmen pulling the cotter pins out mid-air before the plane reached the target. I'm not sure which method was historically accurate. Simple bombs like this couldn't airburst, they had to impact the ground to detonate.
By the end of january 1945 the first Russian units where at the Oder River (also the river you see in the distance on the shots). There the Russian halted beceause they first needed to secure their flanks and their supply lines where overstredged. So the Russians were 80 km away from Berlin in the winter of 1944-1945
In western europe everything is pretty close. Fly in one direction for half an hour and you are in a different country. In winter 1944-45 the russians were close enough to Berlin to make this scene plausible. We don‘t know how long they were in the descending flight, - I am pretty sure attempting to reach russian lines is the best chance for survival in that situation.
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My Grandfather was shot down over Germany and had a similar incident. The plane was going down and one of the crew wasn't able to bail out. He had to jump knowing the guy went down with the plane. Then he was captured and ended up in a German POW camp for the rest of the war. These guys went through quite a lot.
my grandfather was a child.
here in oldenburg, he sat in a bunker (i think it was more of a basement than a bunker, they had to get the civilians somewhere)
an incendiary bomb smashed through the roof, all levels, into the basement and landed behind his back. Dud. Now im here to write this comment.
My uncle was a B-17 pilot. They were heading out of Berlin. Flak hit an engine. They couldn’t keep up with the rest of the formation. Flying alone, 2 FW-190s found them. They attacked from in front and shot out the other engines one at a time. My uncle had said the fighters didn’t shoot at the fuselage. All crew safely bailed out. My uncle spent the rest of the war in a POW camp.
who tf asked?
@@Slabri If you're going to ragebait like a little child, at least try to be funny.
@slabri2425 bet you are a uni student.
These days Boeing products don't need flak to fall out of the air. They come straight from the factory like that. This is a sign of progress 🙂
Boeing at one time was run by engineers, today it is run by accountants and MBAs, those folks would sell their mother's soul to the devil if it could save a penny per unit.
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lol ok buddy
The shot starting at 1:10 is freaking magnificent
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Yes, it shows the bombs arming themselves.
Completely wrong bomb drop rate...
Shin Godzilla déjà vu
What name film ?😊
The target at :12 seconds appears to be Tempelhof Central Airport. It served as an American Airbase from 1945 to 1994. I was stationed there 82-84.
Didn't know it was a USAF airbase for so long! It's now ceased being an airport however, its become a venue for expositions/conferences/festivals and the like. The buildings are largely the same however.
@@bitterlemon13 And that's what's bothering me. The buildings are the same today because the allies actively used Tempelhof as a landmark to target other parts of berlin - they actively avoided hitting that airport.
@@NardoVogt Thats interesting, I didn't know that. It makes sense though, as Tempelhof is situated fairly far West in Berlin, so it might have been used as a turning point for formations after they dropped their payloads on the centre of the city? Certain critical buildings such as ministries also had priority for fire brigades. It was to the point where if a crew of firemen were fighting a blaze in one part of the city, they would sometimes be ordered to immediately go to another to put out a fire in a building deemed critical. Tempelhof likely would have had such priority status, which would have minimised damage to it. I did read once that Hitler's personal plane, an FW200 Condor, was destroyed the ground at Tempelhof.
I know that they built Stukas at Tempelhof and that would make it a target. But, I have seen pictures of Tempelhof right at the end of the war and do not remember seeing any bomb damage there,
Makes sense. They knew that Berlin would fall and Tempelhof is the easiest way to bring in supplies directly into the city via aircraft. Either for themselves or their allies, the Russian Army.
They definitely used the GCI budget well for this last episode. Very well done
What is GCI?
@@SpaceTravel1776 let me try .... "Globalized Computer Imagery"
CGI wrong spell 😂😂
@@SpaceTravel1776 GCI or Ground Controlled Intercept, is a defense tactic where one or more radar stations direct and guide allied fighters to an airborne target. Idk how it is related to this video though.
(sarcasm)
hes just messing with ya. It stands for Computer Generated Imagery
One of the better aerial combat scenes in the series.
А че за сериал?
0:47 if you ignore the fact that those rockets aren’t following a parabolic arc then yeah
I guess the Germans had some AIM9X’s lying around
4:39 has to be one of the coolest shots I’ve ever seen from a ww2 series
Great 9 episodes! Can't believe it's over😭
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@@louietorres4363are you from the production crew? Honestly it was such a well made series. I shed tears watching the last 10 mins of the part nine as there was no such indications of it being the final part. I wish more such good films are made in future. Lots of love from India. Hope our moviemakers also produces such films as we too have a military history of that sort.
@@ashimroychowdhury3723😊 Glad to hear that Indians also liked this show. I'm also from India and I love this masterpiece. Hope they will make more like this. Peace 🕊️
@@arshbhardwaj335 bro afterall quality sells at the end of day. We don't have this at home so yes, this what makes us awestruck.
@@ashimroychowdhury3723 I agree
My Grandfather was in 460 Squadron based at Binbrook, England. Flew as the pilot with Lancaster crew over Germany many times. Heavy casualties from their sorties. He returned and married, having seven children, passing in 2004 aged 83. R.I.P. 🌹
My grandfather was on this mission flying the Barbara B!
Respect
Do you know home many people he killed? Just asking.
@@atzimtzum Do you know how many people were killed in Poland, Russia and almost everywhere in Europe by proud sons, brothers, and husbands of those he might have killed? Just asking....
Respect
You of course are proud. We thank you for sharing.
Those people who had grandpas or grandfather fighting for war, respect to yall grandpas, and if they are stillaluvein 2024. Mad respect to them.
Should've press J earlier
It’s suspicious “spell it 5 time fast”😂
War thunder 😂
YOU'VE GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING. YOUR RIGHT ENGINE IS ON FIRE!
Doesn 't wanna pay full repair for Jing out😂
I enjoyed watching all episodes. We owe so much to them, brave people God bless u all.
My mother survived these events in the Potsdam region of Berlin. After the war, they boiled the wall paper to extract the calories from the glue for sustenance. She was about 6 at the time. She never hurt anyone. She watched her father get shot against a wall by Russian invaders. She married my American Army surgeon father after becoming pregnant with my sister. She never recovered from the horrors of her youth. She died of an alcohol overdose at 52 years old. It was mercy.
I didn't come along until the 1970s, and like most of us, find myself too young and far removed from that generation who fought and sacrificed in the big war. But even being of a generation far removed from them, as a teenager of the 80s and guy in his 50s today, I find myself constantly and respectfully comparing our society and our values today to that of that great generation, almost in a 'what-would-they-do' philosophy to address our issues today, with THEIR level of hard work, THEIR sense of duty and THEIR values. They were a generation that came up through the Great Depression in their childhood. So they took nothing for granted, were self-reliant, worked very hard and appreciated the smaller things. I carry SO much respect for that generation, and will to the end of my life. They've had THAT much of an impact on me, and I can only imagine there are a lot of others like me -- older and younger - who feel that same way. God Bless our WWII generation for what they sacrificed for the free world today.
This part of that generation that is often ignored
Is many were radical even by today's standards
And they pushed for a better world
Same for WW1 vets & ALL vets...shame what passes for "leadership" now 😪
My gramps was a B24 bombardier out of New Guinea. Wish I had heard more first account stories of his missions.
This episode was fantastic. So sad it's over. I really hope that Playtone-Amblin creates another series. Please don't wait another 10 years before releasing the next series.
0:09 "Roger That" 0:48 "Incoming" - their use of jargon seems unconvincing.
Cool seeing you comment on this, love your stuff man!
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This show was a once in a lifetime experience! Loved it! Rosenthal was an absolute favourite, coming in mid way and stealing the show!
Looking forward to enjoying it for many years more, just like Band of Brothers
BOB and The Pacific were once in a lifetime experiences. Masters of the air was Hollywood garbage.
@@HuntEthical
How
@@HuntEthical - “The Pacific” is even worse than “Masters of the Air”. Stop acting like it was any good. It was a creative and financial failure.
@@HuntEthical
I watched The Pacific at least 5 times during the years and I don't remember absolutely anything about it
I worked with a man who bombed Berlin. One day he brought in an original map they used to plan a route.
Cal Worthington a one time well know car dealer in California flew 29 missions over Germany.
1:06 That’s Tempelholf Airport
Fantastic story Apple and the cinematography was next level!
Shame about the acting, script writing, CGI, production...
@@rubbishmodellerWhatever you say Ken.
IRL Rosie was shot down twice in his 52 missions. Not captured both times.
Excellent series 👏🏻❤️
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No it isn't. It glorifies murderers.
Can someone please share the name of movie or link to download / watch this complete movie ????
It's not a movie but it's Mini series, called Masters of the Air
very good series. loved it
there are no russian lines, these were soviet lines.
The Soviet Union had multiple lines of defense during World War II, including the Moscow line of defense, the Stalin line and the eastern front. It wouldn’t be unusual to call a defensive line, “The Russian Line,” since two of the major defensive lines were located in Russia. I think in this context, “Russian” is being used colloquially to refer to the Soviets in general. However, as they are in the Skies over Germany, you’re right and obviously, an actual “Russian Line,” would be a fair distance away. Certainly not close enough to basically glide to, and then bail out.
soviet = russian, end of the matter
That point may not have been clear to these young American boys.
@@KaiserLandsknechtUtter BS, most of the fighting was done by none russians.
@@knightsnight5929 good job rewriting history
Verisimilitude, action & suspense the key ingredients for a great movie!
The use of German rockets in the series was all over the place and not really tactically or historically accurate. This episode appears to show 2 surface to air rockets being fired against the bomber stream (one of which takes out the #1 engine on the lead bomber) even though the Germans developed, but never operationally fielded SAMs during WW2. That's one of many gripes I have with this series. The CGI looks more like a video game than a movie in several episodes too....but hey....at least it wasn't as bad as all the inaccuracies in Fury. :p
Amazing how they can have all these film advisors and still be historically wrong.
The rockets are based on rosenthals accounts - there where unguided SAMs used as well as improvised ones with anti infantry rockets. Rosenthal could’ve mistaken what it was as people in war do but the series just decided to portray exactly what he desceibed
Rockets are in the book.
@@prestonpendergraft7067 did Rosenthal describe flying a B-17F all the way up to the end of the war as well? Because that was portrayed in the series but not in real life. They should have switched over to the B-17G in 44' and depicted it in the series, but they didn't for inexplicable reasons. Especially considering most of the aircraft were CGI anyway.
@@Ricecookerrrrrrrrrrr soooooo there were no unguided surface to air missiles used operationally by the Germans during ww2. They developed like half a dozen different designs, but none made it into operation. The Germans did field air to air unguided rockets operationally like the R4M and BR21 (which was in fact an infantry rocket but was modified for air to air use, not "improvised" as you say) but once again this series shows their use in a really game like fashion with rockets flying in from every direction. In practice these rocket attacks took place by staffels from astern of the bomber stream at around a 1000 meters to stay outside of the defensive fire of the fortresses.
None of this is exciting however, so the Masters of the Air people just decided to have it all look like a general melee in many of the air combat scenes with no sense of actual tactics or coordination. Just planes blowing up and rockets and tracers flying everywhere. :-/
Looks good this programme 👌
i worked for a man named Alex Masterton who was shot down in a b17 and put in a pow camp in Poland . A few years later my dads friend Donald Hamill told me how he was captured at Dieppe and ended up with Alex in this pow camp. at the end of the war Donald and half the camp went towards the allies and Alex and some of them went to Russia were they were put in prison . He later escaped threw Vladivostok and made it home 10 years later .It wasn`t till after he died that some NY times guys showed up to talk to him about it (glasnost brought it out ). Donald verified this story and he also piped in the haggis at the armory till his death and was very credible . I still have the 45 slug he carried in case he was caught and some falcons/tigers eye from Africa he brought back from his escape route .
ps apparently there were other B17 pilots being held in russia that had crashed there , hence why NY times wanted to speak with him.
Ah yes, our Russian “allies”.
Wow that was intense 😳
My grandfather’s war diary was classified until the early nineties. On his deathbed, he told us he was stationed at Tinian with the 509th Bomb Group. His crew bombed Nagasaki!!!
Best episodes were 3, 1 and 5.
9 ending was great. Rest episodes were dissapointments. Especially 6, 7 and 8 . BoB still the Best 😊
Movie NAME.???
But look what trouble was on the ground.
Which movie
Who flew A2A B-17 in FSX??
I'm trying to figure out what tf those rockets are supposed to be...Germany never had any operational surface to air missiles and they said in the voiceover that they were "uncontested" so that means no aircraft?
Edit: No, the Germans did not deploy anti air rockets that were ground launched during the war, stop saying that.
They said they are uncontested, meaning no airplanes, meaning no means to launch these rockets.
Watch the show and youll learn
@@trey3rob seen every episode and it's literally never explained lmao what? These rockets come from below directly after they said they were uncontested that doesn't make sense
@@jacobpitts6846 Hmm make sense, either it mean the fighter shooting those rockets are cant be disrupted before the rocket launch or it was shoot far away and the fighter is dodging to another angle and the gunner cant shoot em
The uncontested was referring to airplanes. The German airfare had been decimated by this point. If you remember at the beginning of this series they would be attacked by the flack cannons then that would stop and German planes would start attacking them.
German anti-air rockets, developed in late 1944 and used en masse against US Bomber formations. They're ground launched from specialized AA mounts.
Which movie?
Notice how they had to pull a handle to get the door to open. Today's airframes do not require it, they just open whenever. Very convenient if timed correctly.
If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going!
O my Gosh! It's free to watch?
All B-17’s by this time were G models which had a chin cannon.
Yea, they wanted to add them but they were already 3 months behind schedule and the higher ups said no sadly. Nothing they could’ve done
It’s entirely possible they were using the older models. By this point in the war the air force was using up any aircraft they could get their hands on.
You are correct in this case it would have been the Bombardier who has control of the B-17G front guns. Have they encountered people's Fighters He-162s then they need F-47N F-51H ( post World War II designations for P-47 Thunderbolt & P-51 Mustang) those two piston Fighters were designed to deal with the German People's Fighter
''Nothing they could have done''
Except do better research before filming this rubbish!@@fitycalibre7555
The VFX shots from inside the B-17 were superb (excellent use of the Volume). Once the camera starts flying through the air, that's when it feels a bit more like watching a video game. Otherwise it was very well done.
can't be the volume.. to much depth and detail, and the parallax looks realistic. I don't believe it.
Saludos desde Argentina, me gustó la serie, aunque creo que tenía para más capítulos, hicieron poco énfasis a los pilotos afroamericanos de la Tuskegee, tienen mucho material ahí para hacer una serie, luego tenes a los personajes, así como Winters lo fue en Band of Brothers, yo me quedo con Rossie, ese hombre tiene unas bolas para ir al frente, no menosprecio el rol de Buck y Bucky, pero como es opinión personal, me inclino por Rossie, como mencioné, tuvo para más pero se conformaron con 9 capítulos, un par más no hubiese estado mal.
Esos P-51 se llevaron todas las fotos 😎👍
Se concentraron en un par de libros y tiraron hasta el presupuesto de la serie. Asi es hacer series ahora. Pidamos una segunda temporada.
what rockets would they have been at 00:49?
Ruhrstahl Ru 344 X-4
so sad its over
Don’t you worry Major ! We have something special line up! Thank you seriously from the bottom of my heart sweet pea My Crew and myself just wanna also thank you for ur audience at home along with your friends and family. We took spot of time recording this and putting such a magnificent moment on The Big Screen not only with a marvelous star cast but with a meaningful story that goes along with it! Salute brother 🦅🤝
Woow.. Great clip!
Tell me this movie name please anybody
Qual o nome do filme?
Please please Apple, come out with a dvd release!
dvd? U can't be serious...
more like a 4k ultra HDR release.
what episode, please?
YO MAMA
Tempelhof Central Airport appears to be the target. It had lost significance as the war went on. The large open bays were mostly used for aircraft storage and assembly of the JU87 by “Weser” Flugzeugbau GmbH. The JU87 was already deemed an aircraft that was being phased out.
The Soviets neared the airfield in April1945 and found functional 88mm artillery and ammunition abandoned and turned the German canons against the opposing German forces still trying to defend the airfield area.
I haven't seen the show but the target was probably the Templehof rail yards in February 45. If you use the historical imagery on Google Earth you can see the rail yards are to the south-east right next to the airfield.
Berlin-Templehof was largely just a repair facility late war and never saw much damage, production of the Ju87 ceased completely in 1944 with the Fw190F largely replacing it in the role. When it was captured by the Soviets they were assembling and refitting Fw190s in underground tunnels. Pretty incredible really, a little like the Soviets producing tanks in the tractor plant in Stalingrad. Whether they had pilots to actually fly them back out is another matter.
I really thought the Major would get his buddy out last minute 😩😩
No time unfortunately
I just noticed this is supposed to be much later in the war but the B-17s aren't the G models with the chin turret.
These are B-29s
@@IAmAFamel Nah, B-29s were used exclusively in the Pacific Theater against Japan, had a rounded nose, and were significantly bigger than the B-17.
Not all older models were phased out later in the war. If the bomber was in decent enough condition and still airworthy to complete the objectives required, There was no reason to retire the aircraft. So its likely a couple older generation models that survived battles before the G models came out likely still flew alongside them to the very end.
Huh, that's weird, I know that the earlier B-17's without the chin turret stayed in service, but I can't find anything on if the USAAF stripped the paint off of them
@@AtleyAtienza Could've even been repainted in between Depot level Maintenance for heavy checks, after all any aircraft that made it a little longer in the war would still need to be checked at Boeing's specified interval periods.
So what happened?? Did they win?
Movie name
Film name plase
Yes. The man in 3:57 . Was left behind. The pilot couldn’t do anything to help the guy and proceeded to safe himself..
pretty sure that guy is dead.
this show is soooo good
No, it was hot steaming trash.
why tho@@HuntEthical
I agree. It’s garbage.
1:05 Flughafen Tempelhof / I grew up there at Platz der Luftbrücke-
My father was a B-17 navigator in the Schweinfurt raids in WWII. He never talked about it, but when WWII movies came on the TV I grew up knowing I had to change the channel. When the WTC attack on 9/11/2001 was on the news, he said that the last time he saw bodies fall out of the sky was over Germany. And then he got quiet. I didn't understand what he meant, until I saw this episode.
These guys had massive balls.
My dad served on oil tankers, but he had several books on the air Force I read.
Well, the more clips of this I watch, the worse it gets.
IT was not a great show. Flat characters and the acting was not great. I had high hopes for this, but it fell a bit flat.
how the other planes know when to drop the bombs?
Luke an L mans really bailed before even checking on his boi like how is the last guy bailing noticing the unconscious guy 💀🤦🏾♂️
A bare metal 'F'? Don't know if I've ever seen one in combat.
Old movies better !!!! What a quality 😝
Did the crew who was lying on the plane and the crew who fell outside after being hit by a rocket fire die?
Yes
Whatever happened to the other crew members that paraxhuted out of the plane?
Some were captured, others died.
Best world war 2 series ever
Not even close!
Must be the only one you have seen then!
My Grandpa told me he watched a british Lancaster get Hit in the wing. It caught fire and riped off. He didnt see a single parasute
Band of Brothers and the Pacific I enjoyed thoroughly will I like this one? Is it on those two shows level?
No
It's not on their level but it's still worth watching.
I wonder how many aircrew dies becasue they couldn't force themselves to jump out of the aircraft.
Probably a lot of people died this way. The g forces and wind would have been intense in a full dive not to mention injuries or trapped airmen. Depending how the plane fell and broke up in the air the plane might have slowed down enough at some point to give them a chance to jump.
Crazy with all that time and money for production, they couldn't put a bendix chin turret on that B17G.
this is something
I hope this series goes to blue ray
It looks like the target was Tempelhof Airport. It was a circular airport located in the heart of Berlin. If you look closely, you can see the two parallel runways.
God bless your grand father sir
Who is Roger??
4:08 it's hard to tell whether he's alive or not.
i was thinking the same, each second i was trying to see if he was dead or not. could've been still "alive" but pretty much would be dead within minutes or seconds either way
Even if he was alive, the pilot couldn’t do anything to safe him
i dient watch the series but I have one question to those who did: is this basically "fury" but with planes?
To be honest, not really. Fury concentrated on a single tank crew and how they worked together, etc. This feels less focused and is more about a few guys that served on theses planes and the huge losses they took. It's all a bit rushed. It's not really that riveting due to hamfisted treatment of historical facts, the british and CGI that feels really detached from reality. I'd Give Band of Brothers 9/10, Fury 5.5/10 and this 4.5/10. It's dull really.
there were times when the USSR and the USA were allies, times of brave heroes, times of honor and dignity. There will definitely be a world, any world, but a world. Greetings to all from Russia.
What are those spinning things at the tip of the bombs? Am I correct in assuming that they'll spin around a certain amount of times until they ignite the bomb?
I guess the wind while falling keeps them moving, when they hit the ground they will stop spinning due to lack of wind, and then explode after some seconds
@@Marquis_Philipp That can't be it. A simple impact-based detonator would do the same job. I think they're not meant to explode on the ground, where a great part of the energy of the blast is wasted on blowing up a crater. Rather, they may have a timed fuse to make them blow up just before the impact, with more destructive power.
It's part of the arming mechanism.
As the bomb drops, the vanes wind a striker pin into position and when the bomb impacts the ground the striker pin is driven into the detonator and the bomb explodes. It was part of a safety mechanism designed to ensure the bomb couldn't easily be set off accidentally. If armorers dropped one on the ground or somehow impacted the nose of a bomb during transport the striker pin wouldn't be in position and so it wouldn't go off.
The vanes would also be pinned with cotter pins so they couldn't rotate until they were loaded into the aircraft and I think the pins were then removed - although at least one movie shows crewmen pulling the cotter pins out mid-air before the plane reached the target. I'm not sure which method was historically accurate.
Simple bombs like this couldn't airburst, they had to impact the ground to detonate.
I need someone to explain to me about that rocket.
It goes brr
Master no !Dávid!😂
А как называется фильм подскажите
The life expectancy was better than U-boat crews, but not by much
title please
are you blind
@@goodie7082 ur too late bro i already watched it ... are you also blind ?
Nice
ATTACK THE D POINT 🗣️🗣️🔥
so sad no 10th episode for this series, previously BoB and TP each got total 10 episodes...
I think they realised that the audience could no longer stand the bad acting, terrible script, and awful production!
@@rubbishmodeller
I don't think we watched the same show
"rockets"?
WOW ! 😎👍
I was so confused about the timelines in this episode, why are the Russians so close to Berlin in what seems to be winter 1944/1945?
The script writers had no idea what they were doing in this series!
By the end of january 1945 the first Russian units where at the Oder River (also the river you see in the distance on the shots). There the Russian halted beceause they first needed to secure their flanks and their supply lines where overstredged. So the Russians were 80 km away from Berlin in the winter of 1944-1945
@@christopheheylen7180 I'm Russian and I never knew that. The more you know!
@@christopheheylen7180 surely that wasn't 80km in the plane he was flying was it?
In western europe everything is pretty close. Fly in one direction for half an hour and you are in a different country. In winter 1944-45 the russians were close enough to Berlin to make this scene plausible. We don‘t know how long they were in the descending flight, - I am pretty sure attempting to reach russian lines is the best chance for survival in that situation.
Did they just get hit by a freaking AA missile or what lmao
0:47 rockets shot from ground? 😮 wth
Da heck
Ruhrstahl Ru 344 X-4
At 3:56 Was that guy alive ? Did he went down with the plane?
Pretty good show. Band of Brothers is still the best one in my opinion
Movie name pls
ਸਰ ਦੋ ਸਵਾਲ ਆ ਜੀ ਜਵਾਬ ਜ਼ਰੂਰ ਦਿਓ
੧- ਜੇਕਰ ਹੁਣ ਰੌਣੀ ਕਰਕੇ ਬੀਜੀਏ ਤਾਂ ਲੇਟ ਤਨਾ ਹੋਜੂ???
੨- ਜੇਕਰ ਮੂੰਗੀ ਚ ਨਦੀਨ ਜੰਮ ਪੈਣ ਤਾਂ ਏਸ ਫ਼ਸਲ ਲਈ ਖ਼ਾਸ ਕੋਈ ਨਦੀਨਨਾਸ਼ਕ ਦਵਾਈ ਹੈਗੀ ਸਪਰੇਆਂ ਵਾਸਤੇ ??? ਕੀ ਏਹਦੀ ਇੱਕ ਸਾਰ ਪਕਾਈ ਇੱਕੋ ਤੁੜਾਈ ਹੋਣੀ ?? ਤੇ ਏਸਨੂੰ ਇੱਕੋ ਵਾਰ ਕੰਬਾਈਨ ਨਾਲ਼ ਵੱਢਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ???