@@Samsungorliterally just having the pokemon evolve normally mostly fixes the issue. GX and current ex dont have the big basic issue in nearly the same degree BW era EX had. Though the worst iteration were 1000% the Tag Team GX. 3 prize pokemon overall were a colossal mistake that the game is still struggling to recover from, bloated hp numbers and all.
Me playing Pokemon TCG online in 2015-16: >Starts match full of confidence >>Match starts, and sees Seismitoad in the opponents active spot >>>Concede Rinse and repeat until i quit TCGO in frustration. Begin sequence again, the next day.
This is a very interesting retrospective to look at, especially seeing one of our little guys just recently revealed and how the game has evolved over time. Well timed and well worded
That feels like an effect that would be on a Seismitoad that required you to evolve Tympole and Palpitoad first. Why on Earth did they think putting that on a basic mon was a good idea?
@@icyglaceon4717 it was so much fun to play. i started playing when primal clash came out. between the ancient traits and so many powerful items it was a lot of fun.
@@gligarguy4010 …Ash never really did…well, much of anything. His Pokemon did all the work, and inevitably suffered for his laziness and ineptitude. I tell the kids I teach (25 6-14’s), “you will STINK at Pokemon if you treat it like Ash does!” They mostly listen, because they all want to steal his Pikachu, too.
I remember being excited to get back into playing the TCG for the first time since the initial craze back in the late 90s. Then I remember encountering Seismitoad or Trevenant decks who prevented you from even playing the damn TCG and made me quit again. 😭
i loved playing toad but my deck was built to be agressive. i used archie to get out empoleon from breakthrough(+20 damage for basic pokemon) and would usually have 2-3 on my bench from repeated archies. quaking punch for 90 was so fun to do.
@@TheKingQazbatt even the nonevil single prize Toad is a vicious little pimply beast in GLC decks. Never try to lick a toad. If even Peter Griffin understands that….
Lysandre in X and Y: "Hi, how are ya? Meme" Lysandre in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon Episode: RR: "Insert Feathers McGraw pulling out the Glock" Lysandre in the XYZ Anime: . . . It speaks for itself. It's the Kalos Anime. Lysandre in the TCG : "Insert Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet with The Five Banned Cards" "I am inevitable meme goes here" Legends: Z-A, don't screw this up for us okay?😅
To be fair, I had created a deck that actually can knock out seimitoad EX in one hit which is done in combination with poison and certain pokemon tool card.
@BurtsPTCG i use a florges EX deck that contain a silver bangle, a pokemon tool from one of the black and white set, Volbeat with the move pester from xy primal crisis and a Ariados from xy ancient origin. The setup: make sure that the a fairy pokemon with a retreat cost of one is set at the active on the first turn with a fairy energy attach, volbeat on the bench with the silver bangle attach along with spinarak. On the next ture after your active pokemon was quicken punched and you cannot be able to use items and if the pokemon tool is not removed, evolve spinarak into ariados, retreat the fairy pokemon for the volbeat with the silver banger attached and attach the double colorless engery into it, use ariados' poisonous nest ability to poison both active pokemon that are not grass(volbeat is grass so it is immune) and then attack the poisoned seimitoad-EX for 180 due to weakness to grass. Rundown: Normally pester does 30 damage, it does 30 more if the opponent's active pokemon is affected by special condition, silver bangle does 30 more if the pokemon is pokemon EX. Because seimitoad EX has weakness to grass, the damage is double to 180.
@@thonk7611 i use a floges ex deck back in 2015, here are the list cards that pull seimitoad EX out of commission: silver bangle, volbeat with pester attack from xy primal crisis, spinarak and ariados with poisonous nest ability as well as double colorless energy. During the setup, you'll want the place a fairy pokemon in the active and place volbeat and spinarak onto the bench. Starting with the First turn, if you have the silver bangle in hand attach it to volbeat, and attach a fairy energy on to the active fairy. On the second turn, if you have ariados in hand, place it on to spinark to evolve it. Retreat the active fairy pokemon and sent out volbeat and attach a double colorless energy to it. Use ariados' poisonous nest ability to pokemon both active pokemon that are not grass type, volbeat is a grass type. With the silver bangle attack to volbeat the previous turn and seimitoad EX is now poison, get ready for the a powerful combo: volbeat pester attack does 30 damage, plus 30 more if the opponent's pokemon is affect by special condition, plus 30 more if the opponent's pokemon is a pokemon is a pokemon EX which total 90 damage. But wait, we were talking about the seimitoad EX that is affect by poison; because volbeat is grass that seimitoad EX has weakness to, that 90 damage became double which come to 180 damage, knocking out the troublesome pokemon EX card.
As a kid I didn’t know anything about Pokemon cards but I did pull a singular ex card. And it was seismatoad. I thought it was lame since I didn’t play at all and it’s funny to see almost 10 years later that I had basically the best card in the game
Every single time I hear the words “Hypnotoxic Laser”, the rage inside me boils to the surface and I scream profanities. That is the card that should have never existed
Honestly I was expecting other cards considering how tame that one sounds in paper, but given the whole context of the time it makes a whole lot more sense. Also, the audio is a bit low in comparison with the ad at the end. 1:33 Wait, it's not pronounced "Versus Seeker"?
I played Virizion/Genesect to counter the toad players at league. Laser didnt work with Virizon ex if I had a grass energy attached, and one attack with Virizion to attach to a Genesect ex made the hammers not matter
Seriously Burts, I just beat Silent Hill 3 for the first time this weekend, and it was a Masterpiece! And then you use the music from the game? What are the odds? :D Anyways, I played a lot of Seismitoad back in the day. I got 9th place at Danish Nationals with it back in the day (Just missed day 2, sigh) Played it with Empolion and "Powerfull Friends" Miltank. When you got a couple of Empolion up, it was ridiculously strong. One match even Manaphy EX got a win because of Empolions abillity. My opponent was pretty shocked to say the least. :D
I've always regarded 2016 as the worst format creatures has ever cooked up and this proves it. Retroactively tho, I've seen some interesting decks in 2016 tourneys dominating.
cmon creatures i just wanna attack with quaking punch again in standard please i swear it won't be broken again please please please it's no less broken than half the stuff that flies in vgc it'll be great and everyone will love it pretty please
@@BurtsPTCG I played that card from the second it came out in standard and still to this day in expanded. I've quaking punched more times than any other attack combined.
Apologies for the slight audio issues in this video 🙏hope you can still enjoy it :)
During this era you could play turn 1 supporters as well making the set up extremely consistent
@@BurtsPTCG Frankly, you’re the premiere voice of Pokemon- I’d rather listen to you all day than to most commentators for five minutes!
From what I learned from this video is that EX Pokémon were a mistake. Having such powerfull pokemon as basic is just nuts.
Solid take tbh!
But then they can't sell Shiny looking cards with the big numbers at the end for the dopamine rush!
@@Samsungorliterally just having the pokemon evolve normally mostly fixes the issue. GX and current ex dont have the big basic issue in nearly the same degree BW era EX had. Though the worst iteration were 1000% the Tag Team GX. 3 prize pokemon overall were a colossal mistake that the game is still struggling to recover from, bloated hp numbers and all.
EX aren't only basic
@gggabriell all EX In saw are eithe4 basic or Mega/Primal Pokémon so far. Same goes for V and V-Max Pokémon, the later being Dynamax/Gigantamax
That card was the reason I stopped playing the TCG for several years. It simply made the game unfun.
It was a dark time 😭
Now it's going better, the next format seems to be slow
Sad to see stall decks becoming meta again
*Watches Start of video* .....Super Energy Removal?
*Sees Card* Oh yeah, that thing sucked too.
not to be rude but super energy removal was made by wizards of the coast
@@marx1095 what? no its an original card dude. not a special print by wizards
@@joejones didnt wizards of the coast make the tcg originally?
@@joejones wizards handled pokemon for the first two gens or so before handing it off to tpci
They only handled distribution afaik@@deadmaniac0472
Me playing Pokemon TCG online in 2015-16:
>Starts match full of confidence
>>Match starts, and sees Seismitoad in the opponents active spot
>>>Concede
Rinse and repeat until i quit TCGO in frustration.
Begin sequence again, the next day.
Yep sounds about right 😭
This is a very interesting retrospective to look at, especially seeing one of our little guys just recently revealed and how the game has evolved over time. Well timed and well worded
Oh yeah good point actually! Appreciate your support 🙏
That feels like an effect that would be on a Seismitoad that required you to evolve Tympole and Palpitoad first. Why on Earth did they think putting that on a basic mon was a good idea?
Yeah that would of made sense!
Toad casually turned PTCG into modern yugioh
Goodness gracious 😭
“Just draw the out,” LOL.
So many banned cards on that meta it's insane
Xy was a wild time!
It sounds like the Wild West of the TCG meta
@@icyglaceon4717 it was so much fun to play. i started playing when primal clash came out. between the ancient traits and so many powerful items it was a lot of fun.
On the brightside, it's nice Seismitoad got to be considered good at least somewhere.
Ash never even evolved his Palpitoad!
Haha fantastic point 🤣
@@gligarguy4010 …Ash never really did…well, much of anything. His Pokemon did all the work, and inevitably suffered for his laziness and ineptitude. I tell the kids I teach (25 6-14’s), “you will STINK at Pokemon if you treat it like Ash does!” They mostly listen, because they all want to steal his Pikachu, too.
Seismitoad was actually rather common in Smogon 6v6 Singles' OU format back in Sword and Shield, if memory serves correct.
I remember being excited to get back into playing the TCG for the first time since the initial craze back in the late 90s. Then I remember encountering Seismitoad or Trevenant decks who prevented you from even playing the damn TCG and made me quit again. 😭
Yeah not the best time to get back involved unfortunately 😭
i loved playing toad but my deck was built to be agressive. i used archie to get out empoleon from breakthrough(+20 damage for basic pokemon) and would usually have 2-3 on my bench from repeated archies. quaking punch for 90 was so fun to do.
Oh goodness that is horrible 😭🤣
@@TheKingQazbatt even the nonevil single prize Toad is a vicious little pimply beast in GLC decks. Never try to lick a toad. If even Peter Griffin understands that….
Seriously some of the best pokemon content out. Your videos always give me nostalgia and take me back.
Ayo your too kind! Means a lot honestly 😭😭
0:25 specific*
Ah, the good old days of Toad/Tina...I've been repenting for my sins ever since
Was a dark time 👀🤣
idk what video editor you use but make sure your audio levels r within green and yellow
Lysandre in X and Y: "Hi, how are ya? Meme"
Lysandre in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon Episode: RR:
"Insert Feathers McGraw pulling out the Glock"
Lysandre in the XYZ Anime: . . .
It speaks for itself. It's the Kalos Anime.
Lysandre in the TCG : "Insert Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet with The Five Banned Cards"
"I am inevitable meme goes here"
Legends: Z-A, don't screw this up for us okay?😅
Oh I never considered that to be fair 👀
The Rocket's Trap.
Or JP Brock's Ninetales before its emergency errata.
Rockets trap was WILD
8:00 What song is this?
Love beam!!
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Love beam Argume
To be fair, I had created a deck that actually can knock out seimitoad EX in one hit which is done in combination with poison and certain pokemon tool card.
Oh nice! What was it? :)
@BurtsPTCG i use a florges EX deck that contain a silver bangle, a pokemon tool from one of the black and white set, Volbeat with the move pester from xy primal crisis and a Ariados from xy ancient origin. The setup: make sure that the a fairy pokemon with a retreat cost of one is set at the active on the first turn with a fairy energy attach, volbeat on the bench with the silver bangle attach along with spinarak. On the next ture after your active pokemon was quicken punched and you cannot be able to use items and if the pokemon tool is not removed, evolve spinarak into ariados, retreat the fairy pokemon for the volbeat with the silver banger attached and attach the double colorless engery into it, use ariados' poisonous nest ability to poison both active pokemon that are not grass(volbeat is grass so it is immune) and then attack the poisoned seimitoad-EX for 180 due to weakness to grass. Rundown: Normally pester does 30 damage, it does 30 more if the opponent's active pokemon is affected by special condition, silver bangle does 30 more if the pokemon is pokemon EX. Because seimitoad EX has weakness to grass, the damage is double to 180.
at the time though you wouldnt have been able to attach a tool if they used quaking punch
@@thonk7611 i use a floges ex deck back in 2015, here are the list cards that pull seimitoad EX out of commission: silver bangle, volbeat with pester attack from xy primal crisis, spinarak and ariados with poisonous nest ability as well as double colorless energy.
During the setup, you'll want the place a fairy pokemon in the active and place volbeat and spinarak onto the bench. Starting with the First turn, if you have the silver bangle in hand attach it to volbeat, and attach a fairy energy on to the active fairy. On the second turn, if you have ariados in hand, place it on to spinark to evolve it. Retreat the active fairy pokemon and sent out volbeat and attach a double colorless energy to it. Use ariados' poisonous nest ability to pokemon both active pokemon that are not grass type, volbeat is a grass type. With the silver bangle attack to volbeat the previous turn and seimitoad EX is now poison, get ready for the a powerful combo: volbeat pester attack does 30 damage, plus 30 more if the opponent's pokemon is affect by special condition, plus 30 more if the opponent's pokemon is a pokemon is a pokemon EX which total 90 damage. But wait, we were talking about the seimitoad EX that is affect by poison; because volbeat is grass that seimitoad EX has weakness to, that 90 damage became double which come to 180 damage, knocking out the troublesome pokemon EX card.
I remember playing against this deck and it was a nightmare. Wasn't an impossible deck to beat but dam I had to work so hard just to out it.
Was such a slog to beat you are right!
As a kid I didn’t know anything about Pokemon cards but I did pull a singular ex card. And it was seismatoad. I thought it was lame since I didn’t play at all and it’s funny to see almost 10 years later that I had basically the best card in the game
You did unfortunately! Tbf 30 damage doesn't look good in the eyes of a kid 😂
Wait..isn't this just banette ex?
No. It’s a basic. Banette is stage 1
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Reading this comment spoiled the whole video for me 😭
Knew it was gonna be about Seismigoat just from seeing the B in Banette
Let me do a pinned comment to try stop that 🤔😭
Also Seismitoad was very splash able because it only needed a double colorless energy instead of psychic
Great video!!!
I have so many memories of seismitoad… good and bad!
I remember you Quaking punching me! 😂
Dusknoir is a close one for me.. just ruins single prizer decks and makes 2 prize knock outs almost possible every turn
Yeah for sure, lets see if it can keep up it's domination 👀
But the best decks still don't play it. Regidrago, Raging Bolt, Gardevoir, Lugia. But when it works it's so op
remember that card being one of the first I pulled as a child. Funny to think that was meta. Honestly thought ADP was gonna be the card.
I wonder if creatures do regret ADP, they probably do 😂
What’s the song a 6:57
Love beam argume :)
And now we have Venomoth who is a single prizer that does that for 1 Energy and confuses the opponent's Pokémon. That thing is nasty.
Yeah that day 2'd a regional not too long ago!
Im living in a world where I hear music from my favorite fighting game at 3:25 and I just go crazy. I wanna learn about pokemon cards not jam out 💀
🤣 Why not both? 👀
Every single time I hear the words “Hypnotoxic Laser”, the rage inside me boils to the surface and I scream profanities. That is the card that should have never existed
Crazy card for sure 😭
Honestly I was expecting other cards considering how tame that one sounds in paper, but given the whole context of the time it makes a whole lot more sense. Also, the audio is a bit low in comparison with the ad at the end.
1:33 Wait, it's not pronounced "Versus Seeker"?
Thanks for the feedback!
If you play it turn 2 u can't attack until turn 3 cause it has summoning sickness
Only if you don't believe in the heart of the cards enough
@@blazedorange the idea of Seismitoad vomiting due to imbalanced nausea is a scary one. Well done, you!
is this interview somewhere to be found?
Will put it in the description! 🙏
I played Virizion/Genesect to counter the toad players at league.
Laser didnt work with Virizon ex if I had a grass energy attached, and one attack with Virizion to attach to a Genesect ex made the hammers not matter
That was until it rotated! 👌
XY was insane, basically the Wild West.
Unrelated note, what was the music used in this video?
Litteraly was 🤣😭 and pass me the time stamps for the tracks u want and I'll link um here 🙏
@@BurtsPTCG Looking for the one at 3:20 and I swear if XY went any longer they were gonna make a card that added cards to your opponents prize cards…
@@BurtsPTCG3:20
If I had a nickle for every TCG that had a broken toad in it and needed to be banned, I'd have two nickles.
What's the other game? 👀
@BurtsPTCG Yugioh, with Ronintoadin
Ohh yeah how could I forget 🤣🤣
Seriously Burts, I just beat Silent Hill 3 for the first time this weekend, and it was a Masterpiece! And then you use the music from the game? What are the odds? :D
Anyways, I played a lot of Seismitoad back in the day. I got 9th place at Danish Nationals with it back in the day (Just missed day 2, sigh) Played it with Empolion and "Powerfull Friends" Miltank. When you got a couple of Empolion up, it was ridiculously strong. One match even Manaphy EX got a win because of Empolions abillity. My opponent was pretty shocked to say the least. :D
Aha good timing :p and yeah powerful friends was soo fun! Shame about missing day 2 😭
Great video 🔥
The audio is low, hope you fix it for the next one, thanks 👍
Thanks for the feedback!
Really makes you think why they’re printing that Budew with item lock for 0 energy…
Yeah…item lock combined with the VMoth may get really boring!
And free retreat too 👀
@@BurtsPTCG Those who ignore Poke-History are doomed to have it repeaToad.
@MoonduckPsy top comment this 🤣😭
I've always regarded 2016 as the worst format creatures has ever cooked up and this proves it. Retroactively tho, I've seen some interesting decks in 2016 tourneys dominating.
2016 was wild for sure!
No mention of Dusknoir?
Most recent dusknoir?
@@BurtsPTCG Yes
Ngl I expected Shaymin-EX to be today's topic 😂
Haha good point! Well shaymin ex features heavily 😭
*should HAVE. The video title had that mistake
Thought it was gonna be mewtwo ex from next destinies. It was in ever deck
Yeah that was wild! I will get round to covering it soon!
The sismatoad deck would win games in modern format
Probably would tbf!
How is it not ADP??
ADP allowed interesting gameplay while just speeding up the game on the opponents end and favor.
Truly the card I hated the most. Who thought it would be a good idea to give an item lock attack for a Basic that activates with a DCE?
Exactly that 🤣😭
havent watched it yet but i can almost guarantee its lysander
oh, thats fair
Lysandre FA is stunning though 👀
still got my Full Art of my Boy
It's a nice FA too!
The pokemon famously known as Jinzo ex
Jinzo is probably pretty comparable tbh actually!
@ thank you, and yes it is!
what about adp
Wasn't mentioned in that article to be honest! 👀
Ayo undernight inbirth music??? In a pokemon video???
Cmon 👌
cmon creatures i just wanna attack with quaking punch again in standard please i swear it won't be broken again please please please it's no less broken than half the stuff that flies in vgc it'll be great and everyone will love it pretty please
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I miss toad bats
Was a fun deck! Very strong 💪
I’m gonna guess it’s either seismatoad EX or ADP because those are the most annoying to play against
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Seismitoad EX the greatest card ever created and I will not stand for this slander.
Was you a Quaking Puncher? :p
@@thunderstruck560 You can always hop….
@@BurtsPTCG I played that card from the second it came out in standard and still to this day in expanded. I've quaking punched more times than any other attack combined.
Kinda thought we were gonna be talking about Lysander’s trump card here
Surprised that never came up in the interview 🤣
*should've
I stopped playing tcg because of this card. I feel justified now!
I think a few people did!
Holy shit, I have that card
You have a monster ;p
Great vigreat vid, but your title should read, " The Pokémon Card They Never Should Have Made," not should of.
Thanks for the heads up!
Sorry, not a TCG guy, but why is a stage 2 pokemon a basic card?
They do that a lot. Just because a pokemon is fully evolved doesn't mean it has to be a stage 1 or 2 person pokemon
@boibobbybo391 That sort's my curiosity, thanks man
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If this isn't ADP im gonna be mad
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should have* or should've*.
Good spot!
love beam
Banger!
Spoiler: It's Seismitoad Ex
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