Volts, Amps and Watts Explained 2024 Wired Freedom

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @trusafe1
    @trusafe1 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you, that was a really thorough explanation.

  • @ishgumi44
    @ishgumi44 6 месяцев назад +2

    Another great vid, and the sound of the water in the background is the icing on the cake!

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you! It's one of my favorite spots!!

  • @mobi1etone
    @mobi1etone 6 месяцев назад +2

    This video explains it really well. i have a 'trail mode' and a 'street mode' worked out on my ebike. Once you're used to it, adjusting the settings is easy. Remember, speed is the killer of battery charge, so knocking a few mph off the top end adds to your range.

    • @davidgraham2673
      @davidgraham2673 6 месяцев назад +2

      That's one of the reasons I chose the Wired Freedom.
      I needed both speed, and range. It offered both.
      You can go a long ways at 20 mph on this bike, because that's well below top speed. The motor easily handles the speed, and the battery easily handles the power needed.
      It's a fun bike to ride.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +2

      100% speed kills range...same with cars too!!

    • @mobi1etone
      @mobi1etone 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@davidgraham2673 20mph feels like the sweet spot while PAS. i went from 44 to 46t for slight cadence change, and better looking cranks. :) My first ebike so i got a half decent one to try. think i'm a convert. lol.

    • @davidgraham2673
      @davidgraham2673 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@mobi1etone , I just learned the value of traction and braking not thirty minutes ago.
      Car going into the intersection right as I'm going across traveling with the traffic.
      Had to slide to a stop.
      Be safe out there. Might be a full moon.

  • @saifeldinvite1568
    @saifeldinvite1568 3 месяца назад +2

    Best video online

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  3 месяца назад

      @saifeldinvite1568 thank you!

  • @jomommainoc
    @jomommainoc 2 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video! Very helpful! What does continuous power mean vs peak power?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  2 месяца назад +1

      @@jomommainoc continuous is the sustainable power over time. Peak is the maximum power in short bursts.

  • @dansigmon1559
    @dansigmon1559 6 месяцев назад +3

    Great job explaining to the novices that are out there.

  • @karlgardner6755
    @karlgardner6755 6 месяцев назад +1

    About to buy this bike because of you thank you so much for this information great job.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      Awesome! I'd appreciate it if you use the link in the video description...it really helps out this channel!

  • @harrymiram6621
    @harrymiram6621 6 месяцев назад +1

    Cleared up the rest of the surrounding clouds!-lol...Am looking @ E-Cells Five Star. Initial range is XLNT, additional range w/2d battery is Perfect!...Stay Safe, Ride Safer, SS....Aloha from Hawaii

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      Aloha and Mahalo!

    • @jfly2249
      @jfly2249 6 месяцев назад

      Google the owner first!!!!!

  • @SarahJane-y1p
    @SarahJane-y1p 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great Explanation and video Lee. Do You plan on reviewing
    E-Cells 5 Star????

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      I might get one. Dave, the owner, called me a liar in the comments because I said the Wored Freedom was 1,999 and didn't mention the tax and shipping. Kinda put a bad taste in my mouth, but I'm still willing to give it a fair shot.

    • @SarahJane-y1p
      @SarahJane-y1p 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson
      Lee, There have been a lot of lies and disinformation coming from the Wired camp. David gets a little worked up because of it and identifies anything associated with Wired as a negative.
      You have always been a straight shooter and provided excellent information to your followers. You provide the best info no matter what bike someone has.
      David gets sensitive about his company. He has a passion for what he is doing and tries to provide the best features for the most value.
      I think you would provide a great unbiased review of any E-Cells bike.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @@SarahJane-y1p I really appreciate that! I don't really have a dog in the fight, I just want the best ebikes out there, and honestly, they are both awesome! I will reach out to Dave and try to get a hold of one and do a review on it. Thank you for your support, I really appreciate it and it makes all this work and editing worth it!

  • @TunaSoda
    @TunaSoda 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love how there's a little sticker on it that says "Class 2 750W 20MPH" lol

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  5 месяцев назад +1

      It is shipped set at class 2 setting until you modify the controller settings, for legal purposes.

    • @TunaSoda
      @TunaSoda 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson I have heard people say if you switch the bike over to class 3 that it voids your warranty, is this true?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  5 месяцев назад +1

      @TunaSoda I doubt it. I don't know how Wired would know, it could easily be changed back.

  • @jcolt84
    @jcolt84 25 дней назад +1

    I was curious about the max charge speed of the current generation wired freedom. I know that both of the chargers that came with my bike charge at 3a max. The reason I'm asking is because I have an onyx cty2 which is also supposed to be 60v that charges up to 71.4v when fully charged. It's charger is a 5a charger and I was wondering if I could charge my wired freedoms batteries with it. I can't find anywhere on wired's website where it talks about how fast you can charge their batteries.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  25 дней назад

      @jcolt84 hmmm, that's interesting. I know Wired uses 3amp chargers for the old and new versions....I would think it should be fine to use 5amp, if the plug fits, however, this could theoretically void your warranty and will shorten the lifespan of the battery, as faster charging wears the battery out quicker.

  • @KOvitt224
    @KOvitt224 6 месяцев назад +3

    Great video! if you were in the market now would you go wired or ecells? Shipping costs don't matter to me because i live near wired

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +4

      To be honest, I'm going with the new Wired. Had the owner of ecells talking trash here, and it really put a bad taste in my mouth. Both bikes are very similar and great, just my personal preference from dealing with the owners.

    • @keeganovitt7340
      @keeganovitt7340 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@leetjohnson That is reassuring, I have a wired on order. At first I thought about switching, but the more I looked into it the more I thought the same about the ecells guy. I also found it odd that all his interviews were all the same questions, and in one of them, it was alluded that they rehearsed the interview as few times. Seems like hes really trying to control the narrative. Just seems a bit fishy to me, the guy really gives me pause.

    • @jfly2249
      @jfly2249 6 месяцев назад

      @@keeganovitt7340Google the Owner of e cells you’ll find out he was incarcerated from 2008-2019 and on parole when he started e cells. He sold mobile homes before Jail. Google e cells BBB and discover their F rating. It smells bad because it really stinks. Buyer beware!

    • @curtpederson2923
      @curtpederson2923 5 месяцев назад +3

      I have owned my Freedom (orange) for one year. Love it. Picked it up at one of the owners homes. Really nice couple. Great experience !
      I watched one of the e cells videos. Felt strange.

  • @Easy416
    @Easy416 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can you explain more about peak out put?When can you hit peak out put? For how long?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      Depends on the motor. Peak is used when going full throttle or pedaling hard/uphill in pedal assist 5.

    • @Easy416
      @Easy416 6 месяцев назад +1

      I have similar bike and no hills where I live and I believe the most out put I've seen is 1800w. Does the system sense when it needs to disperse the 2200w like going up hill?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @Easy416 similar bike? Is it a 60v system? Does it have the same motor? (1,500 watts nominal and 2,200 peak). Hard to say unless I know the bike and controller. This has a 40amp controller and is programmable l, which allows you to modify the power output in multiple ways. It could be a setting on your controller, if it is programmable. Full throttle should allow for max output, depending on the settings.

    • @Easy416
      @Easy416 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson I have the E cells 5 star

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @Easy416 right on! You can try a hill, if you can find any around where you live....it might push it to 2,200....that's about the most I've seen on my Wired Freedom.

  • @iblackfeathers
    @iblackfeathers 6 месяцев назад +3

    wired should have an option for preinstalled tannus armour. would be a waste to have to switch out the innertubes and to have to order that separately.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      That would be a great option!

    • @johns5504
      @johns5504 6 месяцев назад +1

      ShoottheChit did range values with and without tannus, you lose over 10% using them vs flat out.

  • @mikerocket62
    @mikerocket62 4 месяца назад +1

    Can you run 72-volt battery on that stock WiredFreedom, without ant upgrades but the battery?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  4 месяца назад

      @mikerocket62 no, I think you would have to get a 72v controller.

  • @joeberginc7415
    @joeberginc7415 6 месяцев назад +1

    If you climbed a steep hill at full power for 30min. you would kill the battery in your example.... Good work 👍

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      Exactly! The motor is only rated for 1,500 watts continuous and 2,200 watts peak, so it might cut out or overheat in that theoretical scenario, but you are absolutely correct!

    • @daniellarusso8012
      @daniellarusso8012 6 месяцев назад +2

      Too bad there's no regen capability for the descent.

  • @maximumchargeEV
    @maximumchargeEV 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. How many amps is the new wired bike? Would that multiplied by the volts give you the peak wattage?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      The new controller is 45 amps. That is correct, so....at a full charge (67volts) X (45amps) = 3,015 watts. Supposedly, the new upgraded motor has a theoretical max new peak voltage of 3,200 watts.

    • @maximumchargeEV
      @maximumchargeEV 6 месяцев назад +1

      @leetjohnson so this original controller says on it it can do +- 2amps. Does that mean it's peak is 42 amps x 67 = 2814 watts? So 386 watts less than the peak of the new one right?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      @maximumchargeEV I think that is correct. But, I'm sure the new one will have a +/- 2 amps also, probably due to manufacturing variations during production. I saw that Citizen Cycle here on RUclips was able to get around 3,200 maybe even a but more on the new prototype version of this bike.

    • @maximumchargeEV
      @maximumchargeEV 6 месяцев назад +2

      @leetjohnson gotcha. Curious to see the real world testing of the final product by other people

  • @Reciorichard64
    @Reciorichard64 Месяц назад +1

    how fast can a 70v 20ah 1500 hengtai motor with 3300 w peak go? its for the rogue hawk ebike.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  Месяц назад +1

      @@Reciorichard64 depends on the terrain and rider weight, but I would assume around 50 to 65mph

  • @SarahJane-y1p
    @SarahJane-y1p 6 месяцев назад +1

    With All of Wired Changes and Problems are the going to be able to fulfill their June delivery commitments???
    I see Delays!!!

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      We shall see! I didn't have any issues getting mine. Can't really complain about an additional battery, bigger brakes (4 piston) and more power with the 45amp potted controller...but I can assume there will still be complaining, lol.

  • @m75lozano
    @m75lozano 6 месяцев назад +1

    Sorry if this is a stupid question but using that information, is it possible to know the torque an e-bike would have?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      No, unfortunately, the torque is relative to the internal gearing of the hub motor and wattage.

  • @alanmeasures8337
    @alanmeasures8337 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video friend But still a lot to take in, Help please ( 48V 16AH / 768WH ) LI- ION BATTERY, 1000 V DIRECT MOTOR, 90NM OF TORQUE. What speed am l looking to achieve, What distance and for how long , Would be a great help love from the UK.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  5 месяцев назад +1

      There are a lot of variables for thr top speed and distance (terrain, rider weight, pedal assist level/throttle vs pedaling, etc). I'd say probably 24 to 28mph and a range of around 20 to 30 miles on those stats at a medium pedal assist level and 180lb rider.

    • @alanmeasures8337
      @alanmeasures8337 5 месяцев назад +1

      @leetjohnson Thank you mate for your reply,

  • @willdonlon9068
    @willdonlon9068 6 месяцев назад +1

    What controllers are compatible with 250 watt hub motor and 48v 17amp battery?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      To be honest, I'm not 100% sure....

    • @willdonlon9068
      @willdonlon9068 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson Not to worry. Cause I do deliveries and now need to convert my 1500 hub motor to 250 due to road legal in UK

  • @donrobinson9503
    @donrobinson9503 6 месяцев назад +1

    On that size bike, the WIRED, what size portable battery [ SOLAR Battery ] would WORK to charge that battery.. like a Small portable battery ??

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      You would need to be able to output at least 200 watts continuously....but the battery size would need to have at least 1200 watt hours of capacity...and that's only one charge, not accounting for thermal loss and inefficiencies from the inverter. Realistically, a 1500 to 2000 watt hour unit would be ideal...but honestly, a second battery for the bike is the ideal solution, carried in a backpack (that's what I have done with other ebikes).

    • @donrobinson9503
      @donrobinson9503 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @@donrobinson9503 Anytime!!

  • @sambathkangme4663
    @sambathkangme4663 4 месяца назад +1

    How do I unlock the speed on my freedom

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  4 месяца назад

      Do you have the new dual battery version?

    • @sambathkangme4663
      @sambathkangme4663 4 месяца назад +1

      No

    • @sambathkangme4663
      @sambathkangme4663 4 месяца назад +1

      I can only seem to hit 35 mph max

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  4 месяца назад

      @sambathkangme4663 make sure the bike is fully charged and the first menu setting (LIM) needs to be set to 72kph.

  • @alanmeasures8337
    @alanmeasures8337 6 дней назад +1

    Hello again mate, Spoke with you awhile back, This is still over my head, Could you help me again please, l am thinking of getting a ebike again, it's got a 750w motor supposedly kicking out a 1000w classed as a 1000w lax motor geared with 90nm of torque, 48v 12.8ah 16.4wh battery and a fast charger 48v 3.0amp , (1)World it be possible to tell me what amps my controller is ,(2)What speed what distance and how long will the battery last roughly of course ,Would really appreciate your help mate please.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  5 дней назад

      @alanmeasures8337 Hello! The amperage of the controller can vary, but theoretically, at 48v ÷ 1,000watts would be about 20amps peak and about 15 amps continuous. The maximum speed can be up to 28mph, unless it is speed controlled to 20mph to be legally class 2. As far as distance, it depends on the rider weight, terrain (hills or flat) and how much power (power level) is used. I would guess a 200lb rider on relatively flat ground would go about 20 miles or so of range at a middle power setting....up to 25 miles on the lowest power setting and as low as 15 miles at full power. Just my best guess though. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions!!

    • @alanmeasures8337
      @alanmeasures8337 5 дней назад +1

      @leetjohnson Thank you again for the reply and help, Cheers mate.

  • @lonestartex1
    @lonestartex1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can you put a 48v 16Ah battery into the 60v Wired Freedom? would it damage the controller? or just go slower?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not 100% sure it would even work as the minimum voltage cutoff on the controller is set to about 48 to 50 volts.

    • @lonestartex1
      @lonestartex1 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@leetjohnson Thanks... ok I kinda understand... Wired Freedom controller is not voltage rated but Amperage rated (40A). Its cutoff is set for a 60v battery so a 48v battery would cut off early. So in a real world scenario, a fully charged 48v battery (~54v) when inserted in a Freedom would read ~35% charge (according to a chart I saw).
      I think many ebikes have a settings to choose other voltages like 52, 48, 36... maybe that's what the setting is for.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @lonestartex1 it may be possible to set the voltage to 48v for the controller. Then it would work just fine, but the power output would be reduced, obviously. Were you thinking of using it as an additional battery option for the bike?

    • @lonestartex1
      @lonestartex1 6 месяцев назад +1

      Actually, I already have two spare 48v batteries that are like new. The bike itself has a cracked frame. The batteries fits the Freedom (Dorado style) so it would be a huge win if I bought a Freedom and have 2 spare batteries. I don't mind going slower at all.@@leetjohnson

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @@lonestartex1 that would be awesome! Let me know how it goes!!

  • @johns5504
    @johns5504 6 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if they are actually using a 50 Amp controller on the new bikes. At 67 volts times 50 amps, minus the motors ability, 100-200 watts difference, it then makes the math work out.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      Supposedly it's a 45 amp potted controller with a revised motor that has a new peak of 3,200 watts. So, 67v times 45 amps equals 3,015 watts....at least theoretically.

    • @johns5504
      @johns5504 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson Maybe the read out is off? Lets see after the new flashed screens.
      Great vid BTW as usual. You always bring it

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @@johns5504 Thank you!

  • @bunit8
    @bunit8 6 месяцев назад +1

    No 2nd battery in the back? 🤔

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      Not yet! They start shipping in June.

    • @bunit8
      @bunit8 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson would you pick wired freedom over ecells 5 star ?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      @bunit8 that's a tough question. The Wired definitely has more power now that the E Cells 5 star. They are both solid, but I really like my Wired Freedom and had a bad experience with the owner of E Cells....so I may be biased.

  • @TailSpinRCSpain
    @TailSpinRCSpain 6 месяцев назад +1

    Never mentioned Ohm's Law once ! LOL

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      Lol

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      Irrelevant for this topic of bikes....not running any wires or circuitry, so resistance isn't a factor.

  • @LastMagMan
    @LastMagMan 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wired and E-Cells have definitely been battling in your comments! You're an important hub in the ebike community for a lot of people , especially within these two brands.
    Personally, both brands are just that. Brands. But, people like to identify with one to justify their purchases. Thousands of dollars is more money than most have in today's economy.
    There are false players in your comments too, don't be surprised when people defend the E-Cells owner/ceo whatever. He definitely was belligerent and that was the nail in the coffin for E-Cells for me. I will not be buying his Chinesium bike. Even in the shop pictures, it looks like it's falling apart. No second battery, ugly design decisions, "upgrades" that are not needed and when chosen, immedietly make the bike more expensive than the Freedom.
    Honestly, I'm gonna go with the WIRED Cruiser. It's just better than whatever E-Cells is cooking up. Even their high-priced bikes are garbage compared to reputable sellers. Sure, E-Cells has been around longer, but length doesn't have an iota to do with anything.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much, I appreciate that! If you wouldn't mind using the link in this video description box, it will really help out this channel! Let me know how everything goes when you get the bike!!

    • @LastMagMan
      @LastMagMan 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson definitely using your link to buy soon. Been a long time fan, keep it up. ✅✅✅

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  5 месяцев назад

      @@LastMagMan thank you so much!! 🙏

  • @junkerzn7312
    @junkerzn7312 6 месяцев назад +1

    Jump jets. Where are the jump jets! Hit an obstacle? Just jump over it! House in the way? Jump over it! Sky scraper? .... Watch the landing though. Heheheh.

  • @benitodelrio9059
    @benitodelrio9059 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’m waiting for my hunter green freedom since the beginning of February and I pretty much have all my ebike accessories to go with/it too..what’s the width x length in that WIRED logo on the side of the battery please and the WIRED logo by the kickstand please

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome! Let me check those measurements....

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      So there are 4 main logos on the bike...two of them are soft wraps with velcro (like wetsuit material) one is for the front cables by the handlebars and the chain stay one (opposite side of the kickstand)....the lettering on both is 8 inches by 1.5 inches.
      There is a small logo on the rear fork by the kickstand, and it is 3.5 inches long by 1/2 an inch tall. The last one is a big logo, on the frame of the bike next to the battery, and it is 10 inches by 1.5 inches. There are no logos on the actual battery itself. Hope this helps!

    • @benitodelrio9059
      @benitodelrio9059 6 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome man!!! Helps so much thanks!!! 👍🏼

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @@benitodelrio9059 Anytime!!!!

    • @benitodelrio9059
      @benitodelrio9059 6 месяцев назад +1

      I just want to put a sticker over the WIRED logo (FASHO) 😎 I’m so excited I should be getting my freedom any day now, couple weeks but this month, I’m so excited!!! Thanks for the info 👍🏼

  • @CNclov2005
    @CNclov2005 6 месяцев назад +1

    About to purchase my new wired freedom cruiser! I’m so excited for it I didn’t even realize how major they upgraded that thing right after the ‘24 model released late last year which is really crazy

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      I know, right?? Such a great value!! If you use the link in this video description box, it really helps out this channel, and I would greatly appreciate it!!

    • @CNclov2005
      @CNclov2005 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson sounds good! So basically from the 2024 wired you got 80 miles from it low settings right?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @@CNclov2005 72, but yes, basically. Should be able to get well over 100 miles, probably more, with the new dual battery version!

    • @CNclov2005
      @CNclov2005 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson yes that’s so awesome! I saw your video the other day and it was breathtaking! Did you ever use throttle on that range test or just pedal?

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад

      @@CNclov2005 just pedaling, no throttle.

  • @ronbozek6380
    @ronbozek6380 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ohms law

  • @jfly2249
    @jfly2249 6 месяцев назад +4

    The new Wired contoller peaks at almost 50 amps. 50x67 is 3350 watts. I think they have hit the limit for a 60v system and are now limited by the individual battery cell max discharge rate. The new Wired controller can also be fully reprogrammed and re flashed with a usb dongle for future updates. The old KT controller only puts out 2400 watts and with voltage sag and motor inefficiencies you only get 2200 watts peak. Jail Cells special ordered gel filled KT controllers and are now stuck trying to compete. It’s like bringing a knife to a gunfight. The difference between the two bikes is as great or greater than the difference between the original Wired Freedom and the Kepler. But wait, there’s more. Steve got mad at me when I leaked some details about these bikes, so I will say this carefully…you are not going to believe what is dropping next. As a bike reviewer, you are going to want to stay in Wired’s good graces. Let’s just say with the next bike, it’s not about profit, but principle.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the details!!!!

    • @stevegriffith7236
      @stevegriffith7236 5 месяцев назад +1

      I'd like to know more, as everyone would. I hope to hear about it soon. As of right now, I am leaning towards an Ecells triple crown or a kings crown.

    • @TunaSoda
      @TunaSoda 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yup, 48.

  • @MrDeath1988
    @MrDeath1988 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ecells 5 star is better

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +2

      It definitely could be, I've never ridden one. What makes it better in your opinion?

    • @MrDeath1988
      @MrDeath1988 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@leetjohnson a few extra features, potted controller, front basket mounts, water bottle holder mounts, the shop also has a lot of custom options, very good customer support no tax or shipping fees plus lifetime warranty on the very strong frame.

    • @leetjohnson
      @leetjohnson  6 месяцев назад +2

      @MrDeath-zu3ll I definitely agree they have more options available for customization and the no tax and free shipping is awesome! This new Wired Freedom does have a 45amp potted controller and a 3,200 watt peak motor. They are definitely battling for the top spot! I think they are both awesome choices for the money. Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it!

    • @TunaSoda
      @TunaSoda 5 месяцев назад

      @@MrDeath1988 The new Wired 2024 comes with a potted controller...

    • @MrDeath1988
      @MrDeath1988 5 месяцев назад

      @@TunaSoda copying Ecells yet again