Im sure you can mod everything you don't like about the grizzly. Like you have done with your Sur Ron and Onyx. As matter fact we are looking forward to seeing you do it.
Love my Grizzly! First thing I did was loose the seat and put on a long tall JB Seat. Then I lost the bell (obviously). I put on Carry Bright directionals with a horn. Im tall, so the handlebars are fine. In the near future I’ll get an additional headlight
I have the hyperscrambler 2 and today I go the grizzly 2. I'm disappointed with the grizzly. The handlebar is to high = no stability, and if you ride over 20 mph the pedals are useless, so the battery life is shorter than they said.
You can also loosen up the handlebars and pull them back just a bit. The grips would be slightly lower and slightly closer. It might help out. I think I'm going to buy one of these things. I would roll around just using the rear motor most of the times. That would give me most of the speed I need, save my battery and use it pretty much only when climbing a hill, I don't live in a hilly area. That would also prevent corning crashes. If you accelerate too quickly out of a turn using the front motor, it can break loose and your over. Thanks for the video.
Im not all that excited about the Grizzly l bought. For some reason the menu won't appear when I double tap I solved the tire problems with VEE HUNTSMAN tires and tannus liners Seems to solve tire wobble and gives a smoother ride. All the ebikes I've purchased have had those first day flat tires , l haven't had a problem with the VEE Huntsman with liners. All the ebike companies seem to sell the same bogus rubber kickstand I replace this with a 1/2 inch x 4 inch galvanized pipe with cap.
I finally figured out the unlock issue it was a little different than the tutorial l watched. Instead of double tap, l held down the plus and minus while toggling the M, then the menu appears. I'm amazed at the difference
In the DMV, riding in the bike lane is suicide. The amount of rusty nails, broken glass, loose gravel and cigerette buds, and just general garbage drivers throw onto the bike lane is depressing. its either the main road or the side walk. forget about the bike lane LMAO
all e bikes have the same tires all e bike medias will have shit heads like all the internet now a days. also its a rough ride cuz you didnt air up the suspension, improves when you do. but yeah the peddels are to high but the gearing is so high on all e bike like this its useless. handle bars i replaced with a mid hight mountain bike and its very stable now, i can get weight over the front wheel. i got the v3(gen 3) and they did mostly fix the throttle, its a narrow band but you can pick a speed.
I’ve got two Grizzly’s on order and I appreciate your honest opinion. You’re correct when you say all eBikes have pros and cons. Keep up the great videos👍
Hey man, do have any recommendations for local bike shops (Fresno/Clovis) that might be able to do a solid tuning of all the spokes? I have this bike, and spokes creak constantly, I try to tighten them, and it helps for a bit, but they always end up creaking. Looking online, a lot of people have the same issues with the ariel riders, and some people have said they've taken their's to a bike shop to have a professional tune and true the wheels, and that has helped greatly. Just wanted to know if you have any expereience with any of the local shops and if any would be recommended for something like that....Thanks!
Yeah but why get that. I can’t store that at my work in the back. I can’t use bike trails or ride on sidewalks with that Honda. Plus you need registration and insurance and a motorcycle license. This is free to ride around all day long.
When it comes to flats, you need a strategy to prevent them. Well, yes, they are a part of bike life. I tried liners on my Radrunner. Slime on ebikes is a good preventative measure. I used to get flats every other week. Slime does work. Now Haven't had a flat in 5 months. Major difference. I'm getting a grizzly soon I hope. But it goes no where without slimed tires. Experience is a great teacher
Did you ever get your grizzly? I want one but I’m really apprehensive to spend 3 k on it. I’ve heard of a lot of issues with them on the Facebook page.
Yes I did get it. In early December. I love it, love it, love it. As far as problems, nothing really horrible. The all wheel drive is pretty torquey, I basically run it on front or rear wheel with no problems. It's got so much power. It's such a beast. I put turn signals on it, pannier bags, and a rear view camera. Thinking of putting lights on it. One morning on the way home from work, had to drive it in about an inch of slush. Went slow, but the bike handled itself well in the slush.
Well I’m going to buy one. I have a freesky sport. It’s ok to big. Be on my tippy toes. I’m 5.8.. other people gave there opinion but was nice about it. Some people are not as nice. Sounds like they don’t want you to buy it
I've had an ebike for a while. Not super fancy - heybike explore. Lights are good. Handles the hills fine. No double motor or battery or anything but it does the job and is basically a tank. I feel like a car could hit me and I might get hurt, but this bike would definitely mess up their car lol Looking for the next step and I like the grizzly, and the super 73's are cool too, but I really think I'm going to go for the P-51 Bullet just because the suspension seems so amazing. Indecisive, but I appreciate the criticisms you have to offer here - so many of these reviews just gush over the grizzly and don't have any at all and that didn't make much sense.
Pretty impressed with the content. Is the grizzly a bigger ripoff than the super$ 73 in the end. Lmk. Sounds loud and sketchy to me…like the specs but…
@@MrCentralDriver I am in Fresno too, you rode past my neighborhood down polk towards shaw. I had a question - do you need a motorcycle license to ride that Grizzly in town? Im considering getting an e-bike.
You're exactly right, my boyfriend just received his. He made a small rear seat so he can sit further back making him able to peddle. He made it as high as the rear part of the regular seat. Another BIG gripe is why when you use individual motors (1000W) they are ONLY as powerful as my Lectric XP with a 500W motor.. As far as the throttle, the newer ones have a not so fast take off giving a better reaction to the throttle.. He said he had to put the wheel size in 22 inch to get an accurate MPH reading.. Anyone can get a flat no matter where you ride.. Also, can you answer this one.. His front battery does not have an on off switch so he can't use the batteries individually. He told me to write this and he loves your honesty..
Unless Ariel rider changed it on the v2. My on/off for the front battery is right above the charging port and the rear one is on the battery at the end on the bottom. That’s good if they fixed the throttle issue. I was told the throttle issue is smooth when only using one motor but when u use both motors it’s very sensitive and just takes off with 10% throttle. No smoothness to it with both motors and batteries on. And your right. 22” gives the perfect mph reading to a real gps. I’m sure once he fixed the seat it’s much better. I felt I needed to sit back farther and I’m 5’10. And these tires are very very thin like the super73. Flats happen way more often. The bike weight is like 100 pounds I think and the lectric do is much lighter I assume so that could be it. I have a review on a 1000w bike and it pulls as fast 0-20mph as my super73 rx that has 2000w! It’s the bikes weight difference
I think you should rename the title and add that this is the V1. Because I was watching the video and I just purchased the V2, so the entirety of the video doesn’t apply to the V2. Thanks for understanding. Good video though, is good to know well the disadvantages of the bike.
unfortunately I don't own this bike anymore. I use armor dilloz Heavier tires will slow the bike down too. I am doing motorcycle tires on my new build for a super73
Mod this bad boy, put on new handle bars, install a thumb throttle, get some nice grips, mount the head light upside down making it higher, design and have made a comfortable long seat. My son in law is doing all of that and more.
Ariel Rider has a video on how to install the controllers. That video has 1.8k views. So, for some reason 1,800 RUclipsrs are watching a video on how to replace the controllers. My Grizzly got an error code 30H and has been out of service for over a month. After exchanging emails with AR for over a month, I still don't know what is wrong with my bike. I wish I never bought a Grizzly.
THANKS for doing THIS video and I’m sure plenty other potential buyers will look forward to the more in depth con video for this e-bike too bad for us it’s not the V2 . I’m 95% sure the V2 will be the one I purchase ... Not a fan of the cheap bell or the seat that comes with it , I’ll change those and perhaps the rear suspension and add 2 mirrors hope the front light is brighter on V2 and the back light is smaller not sure why that was done
Debating between this and a Luna ludicrous banana… probably should just get the banana and not consider any or these mass production bikes. 35 ah battery on this and dual motor is intriguing but it doesn’t seem all that.
Im glad you mention the cons, and sorry to hear about the bad experience in the ariel riders group. I could kinda tell what you mean, but dont let it phase you! every group will always have a few bad apples that can ruin the experience of the whole batch. I experienced it similiar when i posted a joke post about the most secure bike lock and mentioned how i used to be into locksports (lockpicking as a hobby) and had 1 guy make a post saying "If you have been in locksport, then you know nothing is pentatration proof." with some other comment within it, but that kinda came off passive aggressive and was missing the point of the post. (by the way, its the Alter SAF lock, check it out.. its hella huge LOL). anyways, dont let it phase you! fuck the guys who are dicks, they will be anywhere and everywhere. for the most part most of the guys in the ariel rider group are good.
Question!!! My choices are grizzly or super 73 rx. Do you really believe that the grizzly is that bad? The 73 us a guttles wonder and coats a grand more.... The grizzly and 73 rx are the style im looking at. The app on the 73 rx is nice but. What would you say on both? Truth no BS.
I think I made a bunch a Videos comparing the two but my thing with the Ariel rider grizzly was the simple fact that it was an ugly bike to me. The seating position was horrible for my height which I was 5‘10“. The throttle was very sensitive to the touch where the bike would pull out or takeoff on you when you’re really just trying to ease into the throttle and the only way to combat that issue is to put it in single motor either front or rear. But with both motors engaged the throttle is very twitchy. The Super 73 fits my type of style and looks and it was also 10 times more comfortable than the Ariel rider grizzly was for me personally. The way the handlebars came out the way the seating position was it was just right for me. The only reason I would say to go with the Ariel rider grizzly is because it is now $500 cheaper than the SUPER73 RX and it will climb hills way better than a stock super73 Ever would. Also keep in mind the aerial rider grizzly is heavier while the Super 73 is a lot lighter. You can feel the difference. The Super 73 also has a horn and the other bike comes with a bell 🤣
When you were talking about the aerial rider group being toxic and kinda stupid. I had that same experience where i was saying that i was having sensor problems and my acceleration wasn't working if i was breaking for longer than like 5 seconds it would turn off. Then this guy commented like 5 times saying "YOU DON"T KNOW HOW TO RIDE THE BIKE" "ITS NOT AN ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLE AND YOU NEED TO PEDAL NOT THROTTLE" and other random dumb comments. It was just funny because this guy didn't know what he was talking about.
@@alphonsotate2982 I mean its fixed I had to unplug the wire that connects the brakes to the controller so when I brake my tailight doesnt work but the throttle doesn't shut off anymore.
Finally somebody come through....thanks for the video...I could Relate to ur experience I had the 48v them 52v... Is a good bike for the price point...but almost no one talk about the bikes issue...bc must of this youtuber are sponsored by ariel that why they got they bike first... After 400miles my rage dropped in both bikes with is crazy...Ariel changed the battery on my 48...and they changed my controller on my 52v x class Company customers serv...is ok... But I found it ridiculous the I'll b the only 1 experiencing this issues
I would love to be sponsored myself from them but I actually got this bike from a a fellow youtuber which is funny you mentioned that. I paid for mine at a discount but still cash outta my pockets. Great bikes and i have nothing bad to say on the company but yes sadly nobody likes addressing the issues with them and think they are the best bike ever. They are great but not the best.
@@MrCentralDriver totally agree 👍.....I just wish people in the ariel community would be a lil more open about the bike issue......so that way people could find solutions.... Every other group bike does share issues to find solution... Lol U ask any ariel rider anything...they'll be not my bike is perfect....lol...
I probably watched 99.99% of Aerial Grizzly utube videos on pros and cons ...and to me IMO...the pros outweigh the cons...and most of the cons are minor and easily fixed, adjusted or changed just with any ebikes...That's what modifications are for...I like your reasons, BUT it's not something that I would get rid of it for those reasons...but if you do...give me a deal...I don't have one lol
i agree you can upgrade and change any bike. I try to review the bikes as they come stock because most people won't modify them or want to drop any extra money to make it feel "better" so we stick to how it comes factory. its sold
This review is pretty funny. "I don't like the bell"... stock bikes are meant to be upgraded with minor components by the user, ebike or otherwise. It's inevitable.
Some cheaper bikes come with real horns so people in cars can actually hear you. This bike is so fast it needs a proper horn. This would only work on walking trails when u need to let people no your behind them. But not on the street in the bike lane. It’s not easy to just slap a horn on. You need a battery pack somewhere but it’s nice when it’s integrated into the stock battery
Definitely know what you’re talking about on the grizzly groups lol. Those guys are assholes. I see a lot of issues with these bikes. I’m apprehensive on purchasing one. 3300 is a lot for me.
few things to share: - you dislike the members of the Ariel Rider groups -__- - the kickstand -__- - the grips suck. again, grips are cheap and easily interchangeable - the bell is stupid. bells/horns are relatively cheap and easily interchangeable - the headlight. yea it sucks, but most seem to think it looks dope and the bars allow ample space to mount any additional lights. A brighter bulb can be used or it can be replaced altogether with another relatively inexpensive light - seat sucks but can be reupholstered. The long saddle still allows for tons of room and better pedaling. - the tires get flats easily. then you said "any bike is gonna get a flat". you're right, and tires are relatively inexpensive - the suspension, especially on the second version, has LOTS of adjustability, and my guess is you likely haven't messed with it enough You say you don't wanna seem like you're just bashing Ariel Rider, but bro to be honest, that's really how it's seemed from each of your reviews on the bike. I WALK at the same speed as the Super 73 up hills with slight grades. Ariel rider motors have a far superior build with metal integrated, not just nylon. So they go faster and will last longer. Super 73 has only has one motor and it's trash. Yea, I like the look of the Super 73 more, but that's where it end for me. Overall, you seem to be more of an outlier with your take on a comparison of the two bikes. Even before this video, I jokingly questioned to myself just how much Super 73 was paying you to make these comments lol. And to just lump "Ariel Rider people" in as a disrespectful as a whole is just childish. Sorry your feelings were hurt bro XD
lastly, one has 2 motors, 2 batteries, accelerates and handles hills WAY better, goes WAY further, and costs LESS. So yea, I kinda understand how some have responded to your take on the 2 bikes, when it seems your pros/cons tend to prioritize topics most riders would deem as having far less importance.
you're quite delusional, my friend. that's right.. get more mad about a bike you don't even own yet, lol. shove this virtue signaling, tempter tantrum up your rear end.
I’m not gonna get into everything you mentioned because your post is long. But 100% if you live in the hills and plan on going off roading or through rough terrain on your every day ride on your E bike hands-down the Ariel rider kills the Super 73. But on flat pavement even though the RX does not have torque to me it’s the more comfortable bike on flat roads. Like if I lived by Venice beach or something. I would use the super73 on the paths because it’s smooth and comfortable. Ariel rider just takes off with one push of the throttle haha. There is no nice throttle curve. But buy whatever bike works best for you because my situation isn’t going to be the same as other people in different areas. Just giving my thoughts 💭
@@gregorypahl7690 actually, no. i do not own a super 73. this dudes post was too long winded and whiny. mrcentraldriver owns alot of flagship bikes. his points were valid and true. this guy gettin mad cuz he waited 8 months for bike you can get on alibaba for 1/3 AR's price. extra jealous vibes flowing becuz mrcentraldriver is gettin rid of that ugly contraption, as he should.
Things he does not like 1) Grips, too uncomfortable 2) Half Throttle 3) Bell 4) handlebars too high 5) Cant see with the bike headlite (yes I know that its spelled headlight but im lazy) 6) The seat is bad 7) When Pedaling feet come up high 8) Handling is rough because handlebars are so high so you have less control on the bike 9) Throttle is too sensitive for accelerating 10) wind reduces max speed
fan boys who don't care about the truth -however, I don't think ariel is terrible try owning a juiced bike-then you'll know horrible, great vid take care
I dislike that type of people in the E-bike community no matter what you post is your fault and you don't know basic maintenance,dude shit it on me just cause I said I have to change my brakes pretty often, sorry I use my bike for commuting and gets heavy wear instead of taking it out every Sunday ride it for 2 miles and keep it pristine. thing like that just hurt the community.
Dude I got 2 flats all on the bike lane one was on my ebike when it was brand new and guess what here is the kicker I got my second flat on my escooter with 400 miles on it bam flat. I’m so annoyed with the crap that I see thrown on the lane from e mask thank you democrats to cloths and everything in between is like I’m on a obstacle course almost every time. So fuck that dude that commented I hate the bike lane so much. One time I hit something and it flew strait to my face if I wasn’t wearing my full face helmet it would have struck me in the eye people show little respect for the bike lane.
The suspension can be adjusted but still very rough in the configuration it comes like in the box. I ride these same roads with all my ebikes. This bike was barely better than my onyx rcr. It’s on the lower end for comfortable on how I received mine. I did not however adjust any suspension I used the bike as is.
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Just got mine in yesterday gonna put ot together this weekend - bought tire liners / new grips / handlebars - check out video from mixflip went with his recommendations. Thanks for the vid maybe see you out there in the no
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It will cost u more to customize the super73 than the Arial Rider. But I have a delfast and I love this ebike. Delfast, the only e-bike with 236 miles / 380 km range on a single charge, no pedalling / Delfast ruclips.net/video/C_vwJlSCt6s/видео.html Great video man.
I know this comment is really late but to ANYONE seeing this comment and thinking about getting a delfast based on this range. This range was achieved going 11-13 mph on throttle. on a bike that can go 50. It's probably the most useless case and point of a bike I've ever saw. Real world usage of using throttle going 30-40 mph with a 200 pound rider is about 40 miles.
@@andreperry7995 I appreciate you for explaining how weight = range. But also band hand enforcing my point that the whole world record range is a useless metric for this bike.
THANK YOU, for being honest! Tired of all these bike reviews gushing over the bikes they are reviewing. With that said I am still going to purchase a Grizzly. 1) I live in a very hilly area. 2) I am a big guy, 250 pounds. The extra battery and motor is just what I am looking for, Everyone says the suspension is "stiff". Well that's great, for my weight it will probably be just right. Also, EVERY bike I have ever bought, I have changed out the seat, handle bars and grips. So that's no big deal.
Yeah out of the box its very stiff and I weigh 160 pounds but I never adjusted it. So I’m sure I could have made it much better but outta the box. Ehh. Maybe it will work for you better. If you live in a place where there’s hills 100% the aerial rider if you want a legit ebike. This bike would be the one. All you really have to do is change out the seat and the handlebars so you can have a better seating position and riding Stance. Me personally I did not wanna modify the bike because I wasn’t planning on keeping it but it is a great bike just be careful that your wires do not rub on the front because there has been a lot of issues of People’s front hub motors going out because the wires got shorted out by rubbing against a frame and killing the controller and the hub.
Look out for another video later tonight. Posting 1 more video today 🙂
Two more tomorrow also! Pull an all nighter and make more videos!
Im sure you can mod everything you don't like about the grizzly. Like you have done with your Sur Ron and Onyx. As matter fact we are looking forward to seeing you do it.
I appreciate your honesty!!!
Love my Grizzly! First thing I did was loose the seat and put on a long tall JB Seat. Then I lost the bell (obviously). I put on Carry Bright directionals with a horn.
Im tall, so the handlebars are fine.
In the near future I’ll get an additional headlight
I agree with you. The seat is horrible. One of the worse seats I have sat on too. Spend 3500 on a bike so you can buy a 300 dollar seat for it.
I have the hyperscrambler 2 and today I go the grizzly 2. I'm disappointed with the grizzly. The handlebar is to high = no stability, and if you ride over 20 mph the pedals are useless, so the battery life is shorter than they said.
So, the hyperscrambler 2 is a better choice for 3.5k
Appreciate the honesty...I'm like you performance is important..but If a bike doesn't look good what are we doing here.🤣🤣
You can also loosen up the handlebars and pull them back just a bit. The grips would be slightly lower and slightly closer. It might help out. I think I'm going to buy one of these things. I would roll around just using the rear motor most of the times. That would give me most of the speed I need, save my battery and use it pretty much only when climbing a hill, I don't live in a hilly area. That would also prevent corning crashes. If you accelerate too quickly out of a turn using the front motor, it can break loose and your over. Thanks for the video.
Im not all that excited about the Grizzly l bought.
For some reason the menu won't appear when I double tap
I solved the tire problems with VEE HUNTSMAN tires and tannus liners
Seems to solve tire wobble and gives a smoother ride.
All the ebikes I've purchased have had those first day flat tires , l haven't had a problem with the VEE Huntsman with liners.
All the ebike companies seem to sell the same bogus rubber kickstand
I replace this with a 1/2 inch x 4 inch galvanized pipe with cap.
I finally figured out the unlock issue it was a little different than the tutorial l watched. Instead of double tap, l held down the plus and minus while toggling the M, then the menu appears.
I'm amazed at the difference
Perhaps a steering damper would help….
i think handlebars would make the difference
Thanks for your honesty. Big difference between honest and positive.
I put BMX bars on my Grizzly (and better grips) and it made a really big difference in the feel and handling.
Yeah that would really help. And a longer seat.
What size bars and stem pls if you have link or something
I like the high handlebar because the lower one hurts my back and neck, it’s better for your posture.
Thanks for the honest opinion
In the DMV, riding in the bike lane is suicide. The amount of rusty nails, broken glass, loose gravel and cigerette buds, and just general garbage drivers throw onto the bike lane is depressing. its either the main road or the side walk. forget about the bike lane LMAO
Right
all e bikes have the same tires all e bike medias will have shit heads like all the internet now a days. also its a rough ride cuz you didnt air up the suspension, improves when you do. but yeah the peddels are to high but the gearing is so high on all e bike like this its useless. handle bars i replaced with a mid hight mountain bike and its very stable now, i can get weight over the front wheel. i got the v3(gen 3) and they did mostly fix the throttle, its a narrow band but you can pick a speed.
It's good to know what the cons are. Every bike has them. Thank you
I think you're right, a reasonable critique is important for a $3k bike. I think you gave that in this video. Appreciate it 👍
I thought I recognized the area you were riding in. My town too👍👍👍👍
Sweet
I’ve got two Grizzly’s on order and I appreciate your honest opinion. You’re correct when you say all eBikes have pros and cons. Keep up the great videos👍
Thank you. I hate to be that negative person but everything isn’t perfect and I wanna be real with the world
@@MrCentralDriver Thing you dont like are important for us buyers to keep in mind before we buy
Two years later… did you get your bikes? If so, what do you think of them?
Hey man, do have any recommendations for local bike shops (Fresno/Clovis) that might be able to do a solid tuning of all the spokes? I have this bike, and spokes creak constantly, I try to tighten them, and it helps for a bit, but they always end up creaking. Looking online, a lot of people have the same issues with the ariel riders, and some people have said they've taken their's to a bike shop to have a professional tune and true the wheels, and that has helped greatly. Just wanted to know if you have any expereience with any of the local shops and if any would be recommended for something like that....Thanks!
Seems loud. Is it louder than most ebikes, and what's the 3 quietest you've ever been on?
onyx rcr is quiet. lyric cycle graffiti and my custom super73 hub motor is quiet
the gey electric noise lmao is enough for me
i really think you can get a nice Honda shadow with that 3k you spent on the e bike.
Yeah but why get that. I can’t store that at my work in the back. I can’t use bike trails or ride on sidewalks with that Honda. Plus you need registration and insurance and a motorcycle license. This is free to ride around all day long.
@@310smoker i dont understand comments like this....if he wanted a motorcycle he would have bought a motorcycle
When it comes to flats, you need a strategy to prevent them. Well, yes, they are a part of bike life. I tried liners on my Radrunner. Slime on ebikes is a good preventative measure. I used to get flats every other week. Slime does work. Now Haven't had a flat in 5 months. Major difference. I'm getting a grizzly soon I hope. But it goes no where without slimed tires. Experience is a great teacher
yeah I use armor dilloz slime. I think that's the name of it. works great
Did you ever get your grizzly? I want one but I’m really apprehensive to spend 3 k on it. I’ve heard of a lot of issues with them on the Facebook page.
Yes I did get it. In early December. I love it, love it, love it. As far as problems, nothing really horrible. The all wheel drive is pretty torquey, I basically run it on front or rear wheel with no problems. It's got so much power. It's such a beast. I put turn signals on it, pannier bags, and a rear view camera. Thinking of putting lights on it. One morning on the way home from work, had to drive it in about an inch of slush. Went slow, but the bike handled itself well in the slush.
Well I’m going to buy one. I have a freesky sport. It’s ok to big. Be on my tippy toes. I’m 5.8.. other people gave there opinion but was nice about it. Some people are not as nice. Sounds like they don’t want you to buy it
I've had an ebike for a while. Not super fancy - heybike explore. Lights are good. Handles the hills fine. No double motor or battery or anything but it does the job and is basically a tank. I feel like a car could hit me and I might get hurt, but this bike would definitely mess up their car lol
Looking for the next step and I like the grizzly, and the super 73's are cool too, but I really think I'm going to go for the P-51 Bullet just because the suspension seems so amazing. Indecisive, but I appreciate the criticisms you have to offer here - so many of these reviews just gush over the grizzly and don't have any at all and that didn't make much sense.
Pretty impressed with the content. Is the grizzly a bigger ripoff than the super$ 73 in the end. Lmk. Sounds loud and sketchy to me…like the specs but…
specs are great, just doesnt feel as comfortable as the super73
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Hey do you still own this and would you recommend at all
I’d recommend it yes. And I sold it. I liked my super73 more. But if u want a faster bike this is the one
If I get one of those I'll have to get some bmx handlebars for it. And a nice set of white wall tires and an upgraded headlight.
Every review I've seen on this bike, say's the same thing about the throttle. Which is dangerous.
Tires are tires. Plane and simple I've never had a tire not pop or go bad
All tires pop unless you go motorcycle tires which I did on some of my e-bikes. Never a flat
That's hilarious I was wondering what town you were in then I recognized Fresno. I live on Herndon and West right up the street from that Save Mart.
I’m there all the time at that touchless car wash.
@@MrCentralDriver I am in Fresno too, you rode past my neighborhood down polk towards shaw. I had a question - do you need a motorcycle license to ride that Grizzly in town? Im considering getting an e-bike.
You're exactly right, my boyfriend just received his. He made a small rear seat so he can sit further back making him able to peddle. He made it as high as the rear part of the regular seat. Another BIG gripe is why when you use individual motors (1000W) they are ONLY as powerful as my Lectric XP with a 500W motor.. As far as the throttle, the newer ones have a not so fast take off giving a better reaction to the throttle.. He said he had to put the wheel size in 22 inch to get an accurate MPH reading.. Anyone can get a flat no matter where you ride.. Also, can you answer this one.. His front battery does not have an on off switch so he can't use the batteries individually. He told me to write this and he loves your honesty..
Unless Ariel rider changed it on the v2. My on/off for the front battery is right above the charging port and the rear one is on the battery at the end on the bottom. That’s good if they fixed the throttle issue. I was told the throttle issue is smooth when only using one motor but when u use both motors it’s very sensitive and just takes off with 10% throttle. No smoothness to it with both motors and batteries on. And your right. 22” gives the perfect mph reading to a real gps. I’m sure once he fixed the seat it’s much better. I felt I needed to sit back farther and I’m 5’10. And these tires are very very thin like the super73. Flats happen way more often. The bike weight is like 100 pounds I think and the lectric do is much lighter I assume so that could be it. I have a review on a 1000w bike and it pulls as fast 0-20mph as my super73 rx that has 2000w! It’s the bikes weight difference
Bmx handlebars might make u it well way better cuz the stock ones are like scooter handlebars
Thanks for your honesty about the bike.
And pros and cons
Is climbing bridges easy for this bike?
100%
I think you should rename the title and add that this is the V1. Because I was watching the video and I just purchased the V2, so the entirety of the video doesn’t apply to the V2. Thanks for understanding. Good video though, is good to know well the disadvantages of the bike.
Thank you for making this, ya most of the fans rate this one at the top. But I knew there were a bunch of issues
whered you get the metal phone holder
Igub plus 6
I want a grizzly because of the extra power they off but had questions about the throttle earlier. Thanks for answering that.
Wah wah wah
Would this bike fit for shorter riders? Im 5'2".
That’s a tuff one. I dunno. It’s not made for huge people but I might say the cutoff is around 5’4”
So if I was in Minnesota could I use this in the bike lane like a bike no problem?
Yeah but look up how fast your allowed to go in your state.
Bro what phone mount do you use I see they all the Same for all your bikes just different colors
igub plus 6
Ayo give me that bike
It’s long sold
Do like I did put motor bike tires on it NO FLATTS
unfortunately I don't own this bike anymore. I use armor dilloz Heavier tires will slow the bike down too. I am doing motorcycle tires on my new build for a super73
I just got mines! It’s real quick, some times scary! I like the truth opinions about the bike! Keep it up
Mod this bad boy, put on new handle bars, install a thumb throttle, get some nice grips, mount the head light upside down making it higher, design and have made a comfortable long seat. My son in law is doing all of that and more.
i sold it already
Can you make a video of the controller and wiring set up for the Ariel rider grizzly
I actually just sold it!
Ariel Rider has a video on how to install the controllers.
That video has 1.8k views. So, for some reason 1,800 RUclipsrs are watching a video on how to replace the controllers.
My Grizzly got an error code 30H and has been out of service for over a month.
After exchanging emails with AR for over a month, I still don't know what is wrong with my bike.
I wish I never bought a Grizzly.
Damn how have I only discovered your channel, this is literally wut I'm searching on yt, just chatting, just riding, just chilling
THANKS for doing THIS video and I’m sure plenty other potential buyers will look forward to the more in depth con video for this e-bike too bad for us it’s not the V2 . I’m 95% sure the V2 will be the one I purchase ... Not a fan of the cheap bell or the seat that comes with it , I’ll change those and perhaps the rear suspension and add 2 mirrors hope the front light is brighter on V2 and the back light is smaller not sure why that was done
Thanks For your honesty brother 🤙🇨🇦
No problem
Debating between this and a Luna ludicrous banana… probably should just get the banana and not consider any or these mass production bikes. 35 ah battery on this and dual motor is intriguing but it doesn’t seem all that.
Banana bike
What mirror are you using and how come only 1 ?
mictuning, They cost about 25bucks each. Got many bikes.
@@MrCentralDriver do you have the supplier part number ? Will it be easily attached to a grizzly ariel rider ?
Im glad you mention the cons, and sorry to hear about the bad experience in the ariel riders group. I could kinda tell what you mean, but dont let it phase you! every group will always have a few bad apples that can ruin the experience of the whole batch. I experienced it similiar when i posted a joke post about the most secure bike lock and mentioned how i used to be into locksports (lockpicking as a hobby) and had 1 guy make a post saying "If you have been in locksport, then you know nothing is pentatration proof." with some other comment within it, but that kinda came off passive aggressive and was missing the point of the post. (by the way, its the Alter SAF lock, check it out.. its hella huge LOL). anyways, dont let it phase you! fuck the guys who are dicks, they will be anywhere and everywhere. for the most part most of the guys in the ariel rider group are good.
Question!!! My choices are grizzly or super 73 rx. Do you really believe that the grizzly is that bad? The 73 us a guttles wonder and coats a grand more.... The grizzly and 73 rx are the style im looking at. The app on the 73 rx is nice but. What would you say on both? Truth no BS.
I think I made a bunch a Videos comparing the two but my thing with the Ariel rider grizzly was the simple fact that it was an ugly bike to me. The seating position was horrible for my height which I was 5‘10“. The throttle was very sensitive to the touch where the bike would pull out or takeoff on you when you’re really just trying to ease into the throttle and the only way to combat that issue is to put it in single motor either front or rear. But with both motors engaged the throttle is very twitchy. The Super 73 fits my type of style and looks and it was also 10 times more comfortable than the Ariel rider grizzly was for me personally. The way the handlebars came out the way the seating position was it was just right for me. The only reason I would say to go with the Ariel rider grizzly is because it is now $500 cheaper than the SUPER73 RX and it will climb hills way better than a stock super73 Ever would. Also keep in mind the aerial rider grizzly is heavier while the Super 73 is a lot lighter. You can feel the difference. The Super 73 also has a horn and the other bike comes with a bell 🤣
@@MrCentralDriver thank you buddy!!! Greatly appreciated
When you were talking about the aerial rider group being toxic and kinda stupid. I had that same experience where i was saying that i was having sensor problems and my acceleration wasn't working if i was breaking for longer than like 5 seconds it would turn off. Then this guy commented like 5 times saying "YOU DON"T KNOW HOW TO RIDE THE BIKE" "ITS NOT AN ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLE AND YOU NEED TO PEDAL NOT THROTTLE" and other random dumb comments. It was just funny because this guy didn't know what he was talking about.
Yeah I don’t get it.
@@MrCentralDriver kinda dumb that group
NEED A BATTER KICKSTAND AND YOU HAVE HALL SENSER PROBLEMS LOOK AT ALL YOUR CONNECTORS IF THAT OK ONE OF YOR CONTROLLERS ARE MESSED UP
@@alphonsotate2982 I mean its fixed I had to unplug the wire that connects the brakes to the controller so when I brake my tailight doesnt work but the throttle doesn't shut off anymore.
Finally somebody come through....thanks for the video...I could Relate to ur experience I had the 48v them 52v...
Is a good bike for the price point...but almost no one talk about the bikes issue...bc must of this youtuber are sponsored by ariel that why they got they bike first...
After 400miles my rage dropped in both bikes with is crazy...Ariel changed the battery on my 48...and they changed my controller on my 52v x class
Company customers serv...is ok...
But I found it ridiculous the I'll b the only 1 experiencing this issues
I would love to be sponsored myself from them but I actually got this bike from a a fellow youtuber which is funny you mentioned that. I paid for mine at a discount but still cash outta my pockets. Great bikes and i have nothing bad to say on the company but yes sadly nobody likes addressing the issues with them and think they are the best bike ever. They are great but not the best.
@@MrCentralDriver totally agree 👍.....I just wish people in the ariel community would be a lil more open about the bike issue......so that way people could find solutions....
Every other group bike does share issues to find solution...
Lol
U ask any ariel rider anything...they'll be not my bike is perfect....lol...
I probably watched 99.99% of Aerial Grizzly utube videos on pros and cons ...and to me IMO...the pros outweigh the cons...and most of the cons are minor and easily fixed, adjusted or changed just with any ebikes...That's what modifications are for...I like your reasons, BUT it's not something that I would get rid of it for those reasons...but if you do...give me a deal...I don't have one lol
i agree you can upgrade and change any bike. I try to review the bikes as they come stock because most people won't modify them or want to drop any extra money to make it feel "better" so we stick to how it comes factory. its sold
This review is pretty funny. "I don't like the bell"... stock bikes are meant to be upgraded with minor components by the user, ebike or otherwise. It's inevitable.
Some cheaper bikes come with real horns so people in cars can actually hear you. This bike is so fast it needs a proper horn. This would only work on walking trails when u need to let people no your behind them. But not on the street in the bike lane. It’s not easy to just slap a horn on. You need a battery pack somewhere but it’s nice when it’s integrated into the stock battery
Is it water resistant?
Yes
Most everything stock sucks. 😊💪👊
I can tell you what turned me off besides the looks… is how high up these bikes are. I prefer the lower seat on my Super73.
Same. If your short the Ariel rider is not the bike
Definitely know what you’re talking about on the grizzly groups lol. Those guys are assholes. I see a lot of issues with these bikes. I’m apprehensive on purchasing one. 3300 is a lot for me.
It’s an affordable bike for the range and power not gonna lie. But wasn’t for me.
few things to share:
- you dislike the members of the Ariel Rider groups -__-
- the kickstand -__-
- the grips suck. again, grips are cheap and easily interchangeable
- the bell is stupid. bells/horns are relatively cheap and easily interchangeable
- the headlight. yea it sucks, but most seem to think it looks dope and the bars allow ample space to mount any additional lights. A brighter bulb can be used or it can be replaced altogether with another relatively inexpensive light
- seat sucks but can be reupholstered. The long saddle still allows for tons of room and better pedaling.
- the tires get flats easily. then you said "any bike is gonna get a flat". you're right, and tires are relatively inexpensive
- the suspension, especially on the second version, has LOTS of adjustability, and my guess is you likely haven't messed with it enough
You say you don't wanna seem like you're just bashing Ariel Rider, but bro to be honest, that's really how it's seemed from each of your reviews on the bike.
I WALK at the same speed as the Super 73 up hills with slight grades. Ariel rider motors have a far superior build with metal integrated, not just nylon. So they go faster and will last longer. Super 73 has only has one motor and it's trash. Yea, I like the look of the Super 73 more, but that's where it end for me. Overall, you seem to be more of an outlier with your take on a comparison of the two bikes. Even before this video, I jokingly questioned to myself just how much Super 73 was paying you to make these comments lol. And to just lump "Ariel Rider people" in as a disrespectful as a whole is just childish. Sorry your feelings were hurt bro XD
lastly, one has 2 motors, 2 batteries, accelerates and handles hills WAY better, goes WAY further, and costs LESS. So yea, I kinda understand how some have responded to your take on the 2 bikes, when it seems your pros/cons tend to prioritize topics most riders would deem as having far less importance.
you're quite delusional, my friend. that's right.. get more mad about a bike you don't even own yet, lol. shove this virtue signaling, tempter tantrum up your rear end.
@@microwavechef4726 super 73 owner, eh?
I’m not gonna get into everything you mentioned because your post is long. But 100% if you live in the hills and plan on going off roading or through rough terrain on your every day ride on your E bike hands-down the Ariel rider kills the Super 73. But on flat pavement even though the RX does not have torque to me it’s the more comfortable bike on flat roads. Like if I lived by Venice beach or something. I would use the super73 on the paths because it’s smooth and comfortable. Ariel rider just takes off with one push of the throttle haha. There is no nice throttle curve. But buy whatever bike works best for you because my situation isn’t going to be the same as other people in different areas. Just giving my thoughts 💭
@@gregorypahl7690 actually, no. i do not own a super 73. this dudes post was too long winded and whiny. mrcentraldriver owns alot of flagship bikes. his points were valid and true. this guy gettin mad cuz he waited 8 months for bike you can get on alibaba for 1/3 AR's price. extra jealous vibes flowing becuz mrcentraldriver is gettin rid of that ugly contraption, as he should.
Things he does not like
1) Grips, too uncomfortable
2) Half Throttle
3) Bell
4) handlebars too high
5) Cant see with the bike headlite (yes I know that its spelled headlight but im lazy)
6) The seat is bad
7) When Pedaling feet come up high
8) Handling is rough because handlebars are so high so you have less control on the bike
9) Throttle is too sensitive for accelerating
10) wind reduces max speed
fan boys who don't care about the truth -however, I don't think ariel is terrible try owning a juiced bike-then you'll know horrible, great vid take care
A lot to think about. Thanks for the insight! PS I got a flat in the bike lane!!!! lol
I dislike that type of people in the E-bike community no matter what you post is your fault and you don't know basic maintenance,dude shit it on me just cause I said I have to change my brakes pretty often, sorry I use my bike for commuting and gets heavy wear instead of taking it out every Sunday ride it for 2 miles and keep it pristine. thing like that just hurt the community.
lol you had the bike in single motor the whole time thats why it was slower
Dude I got 2 flats all on the bike lane one was on my ebike when it was brand new and guess what here is the kicker I got my second flat on my escooter with 400 miles on it bam flat. I’m so annoyed with the crap that I see thrown on the lane from e mask thank you democrats to cloths and everything in between is like I’m on a obstacle course almost every time. So fuck that dude that commented I hate the bike lane so much. One time I hit something and it flew strait to my face if I wasn’t wearing my full face helmet it would have struck me in the eye people show little respect for the bike lane.
How does the bike feel on not shit roads? All the roads you drove on were complete shit
The suspension can be adjusted but still very rough in the configuration it comes like in the box. I ride these same roads with all my ebikes. This bike was barely better than my onyx rcr. It’s on the lower end for comfortable on how I received mine. I did not however adjust any suspension I used the bike as is.
@@MrCentralDriver gotcha.thanks for the response!
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Just got mine in yesterday gonna put ot together this weekend - bought tire liners / new grips / handlebars - check out video from mixflip went with his recommendations. Thanks for the vid maybe see you out there in the no
Hey when did you order yours?
I’m still waiting on mine…
You want to sell it, let me know.
I sold it awhile back.
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It will cost u more to customize the super73 than the Arial Rider. But I have a delfast and I love this ebike.
Delfast, the only e-bike with 236 miles / 380 km range on a single charge, no pedalling / Delfast
ruclips.net/video/C_vwJlSCt6s/видео.html Great video man.
I know this comment is really late but to ANYONE seeing this comment and thinking about getting a delfast based on this range.
This range was achieved going 11-13 mph on throttle. on a bike that can go 50. It's probably the most useless case and point of a bike I've ever saw. Real world usage of using throttle going 30-40 mph with a 200 pound rider is about 40 miles.
@@tritzzy well I weight 150 pounds. I can go 90 miles while going 40 mph.
@@andreperry7995 I appreciate you for explaining how weight = range. But also band hand enforcing my point that the whole world record range is a useless metric for this bike.
@@tritzzy u welcome.
All the specs were on the site as far as pedal height height of bars …… your just a whiner that has a chip on his shoulder about Ariel Rider
THANK YOU, for being honest!
Tired of all these bike reviews gushing over the bikes they are reviewing.
With that said I am still going to purchase a Grizzly.
1) I live in a very hilly area.
2) I am a big guy, 250 pounds.
The extra battery and motor is just what I am looking for,
Everyone says the suspension is "stiff". Well that's great, for my weight it will probably be just right.
Also, EVERY bike I have ever bought, I have changed out the seat, handle bars and grips.
So that's no big deal.
Yeah out of the box its very stiff and I weigh 160 pounds but I never adjusted it. So I’m sure I could have made it much better but outta the box. Ehh. Maybe it will work for you better. If you live in a place where there’s hills 100% the aerial rider if you want a legit ebike. This bike would be the one. All you really have to do is change out the seat and the handlebars so you can have a better seating position and riding Stance. Me personally I did not wanna modify the bike because I wasn’t planning on keeping it but it is a great bike just be careful that your wires do not rub on the front because there has been a lot of issues of People’s front hub motors going out because the wires got shorted out by rubbing against a frame and killing the controller and the hub.
How did your purchase go if you did get one?
Waaaaayyyyyy too nit-picky bruh.... Sorry that's how it is for you, but that's not how it is.
Bro who the hell would dislike this video 😂 bunch of weirdos
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