525HP Infiniti Q50 Review: Four Door Nissan 400Z?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @ThatDudeinBlue
    @ThatDudeinBlue  3 года назад +516

    Do you think the Q50/Q60's were overlooked?

    • @cherry1le
      @cherry1le 3 года назад +45

      The q60 red sport is extremely overlooked, but overall the BMW 340i is way better in my opinion than the q50 since they are around the same price, the b58 can make 542 who stock turbo, and the stock block can make around 1000hp.

    • @APsupportsTerrorism
      @APsupportsTerrorism 3 года назад +17

      The hybrids are major sleepers. Downside is they can't be tuned at this point. But if somebody figured it out and added turbos, they'd instantly be in business with a 600whp car - flat torque line - that flies through the corners.

    • @APsupportsTerrorism
      @APsupportsTerrorism 3 года назад +25

      Regarding paddles... every S badge comes with paddles. Every engine option* does or has had Sport trim.
      Even if it's not an S trim, almost all of them are prewired for paddles. It's the same paddles as Gs and Zs off ebay or elsewhere.
      And even if they aren't prewired, it's just 2 molex pins in the combo meter and gnd... find an electronics inclined friend, it takes 10 minutes with crimpers.
      *there's been many -VQ37, VQ35h, VR30, VR30-RS, 2.0t

    • @jasondimitroglo2359
      @jasondimitroglo2359 3 года назад +30

      I own a 2016 3.0t silver sport, and I think you chose the wrong first impression by getting a base model. I think if you were to get a sport trim with the same mods you would appreciate the R35 paddle shifters, and the factory BBK on the car. These things with supporting mods and a tune makes it insane, I love mine!

    • @wetwea33
      @wetwea33 3 года назад +45

      @@cherry1le you can't find a 340i for anywhere near the same price. A b58 is not making 540whp lol. The vr30 can make more on the stock turbos but the gearbox sucks and it will be less reliable then the b58.

  • @danny25705
    @danny25705 3 года назад +107

    Us Q owners have been under the radar. We don't need exposure

    • @user59371
      @user59371 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah most people don’t even realize you’re trying to race them that’s how slow you are

    • @Ksmoovey
      @Ksmoovey 3 месяца назад

      @@user59371Lmao

    • @RockinTheDub
      @RockinTheDub 2 месяца назад

      @@user59371😂😂 look man at the very least we’re faster than generic traffic

  • @mai_kul
    @mai_kul 3 года назад +483

    The 400z with these bolt ons and tune is going to be so fast, it will weigh way less than the Q50/60

    • @ThatDudeinBlue
      @ThatDudeinBlue  3 года назад +44

      Agreed!

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 3 года назад +5

      Speculation. Until i see a spec sheet thats all it is.

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan 3 года назад +18

      ​@Justen Galacia Nissan has already confirmed there will be some chassis upgrades, so we are looking at around 3300-3400lbs.
      400-500lbs is a pretty significant weight difference.

    • @robertfischer5893
      @robertfischer5893 3 года назад +29

      Don't underestimate their ability to get it over 3,600 lbs

    • @IReahpZz
      @IReahpZz 3 года назад +6

      @@BigHeadClan awd qs are over 4k so it's gonna be a huge difference

  • @KwyattCreations
    @KwyattCreations 3 года назад +235

    We’re actually building and tuning these to get ourselves ready for the new Z. Basically just a fat Z.

    • @stevemcrichards8768
      @stevemcrichards8768 3 года назад +30

      P H A T Z (on a license plate) you're welcome.

    • @300zxdriver
      @300zxdriver 3 года назад +1

      Fat girls need love too.

    • @yappanesee
      @yappanesee 3 года назад

      Steve McRichards you gave me some inspiration

    • @dimiter.petrov
      @dimiter.petrov 3 года назад +1

      @@stevemcrichards8768 I like zzzzzzzz on a license plate for a Z

    • @Dayashii
      @Dayashii 3 года назад

      So like how the G35 was to the 350z

  • @charliecole624
    @charliecole624 3 года назад +737

    Where’s my Q owners at??

    • @luisiferz
      @luisiferz 3 года назад +40

      VR30 gaaang

    • @ILLESTDIAMONDZ
      @ILLESTDIAMONDZ 3 года назад +36

      3.0T GANG

    • @bobbyholmes4586
      @bobbyholmes4586 3 года назад +21

      I'm repping the 3rd cousin of the Q but we still family 😂 #G35gang

    • @RichiiVlogs
      @RichiiVlogs 3 года назад +64

      3.7 GANG

    • @jonr7207
      @jonr7207 3 года назад +11

      Z boys checking in

  • @captainzoll3303
    @captainzoll3303 3 года назад +341

    "4 door nissan Z" is a weird way of saying "skyline"

    • @exquisiteart6478
      @exquisiteart6478 3 года назад +44

      I mean it IS called the Skyline in other markets

    • @xoulmannn
      @xoulmannn 3 года назад +32

      @@exquisiteart6478 It's a Skyline regardless. Started life in Yokohama, but just ended up with the half rebadged and exported to the US, Taiwan, and Canada.

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan 3 года назад +1

      @@xoulmannn Is the 370z a skyline because it stated off in Yokohama as well? No, it is not.
      In the late 90's Nissan made the decision to split the 300zx into two cars because it cost more than a corvette, 1 car was intended to be a sporty GT to attract those who liked the luxury of that generation that became the G35(now Q50) the other car went on to become the 350z a dedicated sports car that was still affordable.
      If you have any doubt too this look at the generational naming of all of the skylines, R32,R33,R34 and R35 etc. The G35/37/Q50 share none of those
      designations.

    • @terlaluanjay
      @terlaluanjay 3 года назад +38

      @@BigHeadClan but you cant deny that the g35, g37, q50, q60 is called a skyline in japan

    • @xoulmannn
      @xoulmannn 3 года назад +31

      @@BigHeadClan
      1) Why are you mentioning the Fairlady? I mention Skylines being manufactured in Yokohoma so people don't say that the "Infiniti" version and the regular Nissan Skyline are two different cars, when in fact they are the SAME car. It's irrelevant for you to bring up the Z32, because the Skyline has nothing to do with it. The next Fairlady is the Z33 and only the Z33, also known as the 350Z. Not the Skyline. Sure, the Fairlady and Skyline share the same platform, engine, and some minor components, but that's it. Same thing with the S13 Silvias & the 180sx. Two DIFFERENT cars, but used the same chassis and some internals.
      2) If anything, Nissan was on the brink of bankruptcy and wanted to carry on two of their most precious car models, the Fairlady and the Skyline, in the cheapest way possible by making them share platforms.
      3) I don't think you know a lot about Skylines, but the first Skyline appeared in 1957 from a company named Prince and its generation/chassis name was ALS1. Then you had two other generations by the name of BLRA & S50. Then when Prince merged with Nissan in 66', you had the C10, C110, & C210. After that in the 70s I believe, came the arrival of the R30, then later on, came the R31, R32, R33, R34 gens. which most people only know about. Then in 2001, the Skyline did not die. In fact, all ER/HR34s (non-GTRs Skylines) stopped production mid-2000, but then came the V35 Skyline, rebadged for the US as the G35. After that you have V36, rebadged as the G37 for some markets and then currently the V37, rebadged as Q40/50/&60s.
      As you can see, the generational/chassis codes have never been consistent and most Skylines (fun fact) are not even R-series skylines. So what you mention about the chassis codes is irrelevant. Nissan didn't have to continue the R-series if they didn't want to.
      Look at the Honda Civic; You have EK/EG/EF/FN/FD/etc. .... all different chassis designations, but different cars? Maybe in generation, but the model itself (Civic in this case) is the same across the board.
      4) Lastly, you mention the V-series Skyline being a GT Sports Car, but it never really was. It was just another entry-level luxury & sports sedan and coupe like the very first Skylines back in 57'. Essentially, the Japanese 3-series.
      Edit:
      Also the R35 is not a Skyline, even though it's platform is based off the Z and Skyline.

  • @larryaguirre7814
    @larryaguirre7814 3 года назад +18

    Phenomenal platform. Phenomenal ride. Great content dude, never stop doing what you do. You have thousands who support!

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan 3 года назад +22

    It really is a shame more you tubers don't check out the Q50/60 they are fantastic value and tuning platforms that are often overlooked.

  • @ImportDomestic2006
    @ImportDomestic2006 3 года назад +9

    As an Infiniti owner that is a base model and that is why you don’t get the paddle shifters are the sport bucket seats with the extended thighs supports. As you pointed out that Infiniti is missing the sixpiston floating caliper set up. 2014 Q50S AWD 3.7L 328hp with the five by wire steering & a birdseye view surround camera system. Now I have a 2015 Q70L long wheel base 3.7L 330hp with the technology package and sport package. There is a huge difference between a base model Infiniti & a upgraded interior package. Unfortunately there is more base model Infiniti‘s then there is upgraded interior package Infiniti‘s out there in the wild. Some infinities have a Japanese ash wood interior. That one has the fake stainless steel panels. I bet you it doesn’t even have the premium Bose surroundsound with 16 speakers.

  • @Wildchildinc
    @Wildchildinc 3 года назад +68

    He exposed the secret now everyone and their grandma is gonna clap out Q50s/Q60s....

  • @frankb4199
    @frankb4199 3 года назад +60

    I can say this without question, the q50/q60 red sport is one of the fastest cars on the market. Tuned properly* . Infinity really makes great cars that are under appreciated. The reliability is outstanding as well. Coming from a Q60 owner.

    • @presidential3228
      @presidential3228 2 года назад +1

      and cheap too

    • @presidential3228
      @presidential3228 2 года назад +2

      price wise, not quality

    • @frankb4199
      @frankb4199 2 года назад +2

      @@presidential3228 I think the quality is just fine!

    • @Unplugged704
      @Unplugged704 2 года назад +1

      “Tuned properly?”
      Without tune it’s already fast!

    • @frankb4199
      @frankb4199 2 года назад +2

      @@Unplugged704 I agree, but a good tune went along way!

  • @alekssochi5837
    @alekssochi5837 3 года назад +6

    Love the fact that you started reviewing more Infiniti and nissans! 🙏

  • @DADA-ey2ir
    @DADA-ey2ir 3 года назад +8

    Had a 2016 q50s for a year and a half. One of the most comfortable reliable affordable and kind of sporty sedans out there. This car is definitely overlooked.

  • @gloomymochizo
    @gloomymochizo 3 года назад +286

    The Sport/Red sport trims has paddles.

  • @MikeBoardley
    @MikeBoardley 2 года назад +27

    I just bought a 2019 Redsport and it's amazing.
    Not only is it super fast but it's soo smooth when driving and shifting. People can complain all they want the Q's are dated.
    They're also the ones winning races when modded. I loved my g37x and am excited to see what my Redsport will do when modded.

    • @restlessyouthproductions
      @restlessyouthproductions 2 года назад +1

      Same. Love my Q... Very fast stock. VR and VQ engines dominate the tuner scene

    • @shapurjanmirzai8624
      @shapurjanmirzai8624 Год назад

      Good for u brotha hell yea !

    • @favelakingpin1207
      @favelakingpin1207 Год назад

      What's it like after 10 or so months of ownership. I am very close and tempted to do the same as I intend to drive it quite a bit maybe even daily it. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

    • @MikeBoardley
      @MikeBoardley Год назад +2

      @@favelakingpin1207 - I still love it 1 year later. Fast. Zero issues and runs like a champ.

    • @sleepervq605
      @sleepervq605 Год назад

      @@MikeBoardley coming from a g37 how is the steering feel? I currently have a g37 but I'm worried about the steer by wire system.

  • @churchgest
    @churchgest 3 года назад +16

    I actually like the lighting of the latter review I like how the dusk plays with the color of the car

  • @DJMotoVlogs
    @DJMotoVlogs 3 года назад +73

    If Infiniti offered this with a manual I would buy one tomorrow, I miss my old manual sedan a lot.

  • @BB-fl3ss
    @BB-fl3ss 3 года назад +16

    After owning my 2016 Q50 3.0 for about a year now, I have to say I have no regrets buying this car. Other than the shitty infotainment system, everything else is spot on. Especially how much potential these VR30 engines have, I’m definitely planning on going AMS stage 3 after my warranty expires.

    • @natty1
      @natty1 2 года назад +4

      Get the Tesla screen.. it fits so perfectly.

    • @harlanrifkind6925
      @harlanrifkind6925 2 года назад +2

      @@natty1 any problems electrically w the Tesla screen? Ive heard of issues and ur AC is controlled thru there I live in Florida so I can’t risk the AC 😅

    • @vlz.matthew
      @vlz.matthew Год назад

      yeah but the infotainment is easy to replace

  • @jj481012
    @jj481012 3 года назад +12

    This darker ambiance is a straight up vibe bro.

  • @VQsivic
    @VQsivic 3 года назад +101

    4:50 you see a g35 trying to keep up 😂😂

    • @Dayashii
      @Dayashii 3 года назад +15

      That’s the Q50’s grand father

  • @awesomecomet3577
    @awesomecomet3577 3 года назад +14

    The Q50/Q60 are probably some of my favorite cars to drive at work, I love these things! That's crazy to see how much potential they have!!

    • @vz6235
      @vz6235 3 года назад +2

      Awesome cars love em

  • @Thors_Garage
    @Thors_Garage 3 года назад +20

    I love the Q50 and especially how it looks

  • @AllOutOfEnemies1
    @AllOutOfEnemies1 3 года назад +7

    Great review, I have a stock 2017 and watching this just makes me smile. Weird car for sure, but it's nice to see what the platform is able to produce.

  • @JaredUnashamed
    @JaredUnashamed 3 года назад +3

    I bought a 2011 Taurus SHO because of your video. I feel the same way about 4 door sleeper sedans. I look at the Q50, Lincoln MKZ, even would consider a Fusion sport with the 2.7 TT. I love these cars, I'll always be a car guy when all the car companies are switching to trucks. Glad to see that companies like Nisaan and Kia are still out there making cars that are fun to drive and practical. Love it!!

  • @largenloud9744
    @largenloud9744 3 года назад +14

    Lmao that guy at the gas station was just watchin

    • @Chilly.Z34
      @Chilly.Z34 3 года назад +1

      I was looking for this comment lol ! 😂

    • @largenloud9744
      @largenloud9744 3 года назад +1

      @@Chilly.Z34 I couldn’t resist lol

  • @alexb510
    @alexb510 3 года назад +25

    I love my q50 red sport. Just a tune with a down pipe and it rips. Straight torque monster!

    • @moisescristobal9740
      @moisescristobal9740 3 года назад +4

      I really want a q60 but recently I drove my Friends s550 mustang gt and the v8 exhaust is intoxicating, I know the VR30 has more potential for power but that v8 at full throttle is so nice

    • @harambes_revenge9220
      @harambes_revenge9220 3 года назад +10

      @@moisescristobal9740 nobody ever sees it coming from the q50 though 😂

    • @alexb510
      @alexb510 3 года назад +3

      @@moisescristobal9740 yea it’s all just what you like. My goal from the start was to build a sleeper and that’s what it is. The look on some people’s faces when my 4-door infinity passes their sports car is priceless.

    • @TheJMan1K
      @TheJMan1K 3 года назад

      What down pipe and tune do use? Considering getting a Q50 but not familiar with imports

    • @moisescristobal9740
      @moisescristobal9740 3 года назад

      @@TheJMan1K with the 3.0t a tune and downpipes will get you 80-100whp

  • @testing448
    @testing448 2 года назад +7

    I had a 2017 red sport q60 had a bunch of issues bought it brand new. Dumb decision because I paid over 64k plus tax, fees etc. was so just excited about it but the value of it went down so fast in under 3 years. After a year of ownership I started to heat soak a lot, was running under boost, also the turbos were making weird clanking noises so the dealer replaced it. Keep in mind I’m stock I always wanted to upgrade the heat exchanger but it will void the warranty. One day engine was making weird noises it started to really lose power as well. Turns out it was the drive belt but I’m not done yet the engine actually did gave out at only 34k miles it started to knock so dealer replaced the motor for free through warranty. If you think that’s over I’m not finish yet. This time around the car started to overheat with a newer engine. At this point I complain to the dealer about it and they couldn’t figure it out on why it’s overheating, coolant is good, water pump is good, oh btw the red sport uses two water pumps and for some reason I only had one it took nearly a whole month trying to call and deal with service for them to figure this shit out. They put in the secondary water pump, gave me a couple of free oil changes for the trouble. Even with the new water pump it will still overheat. Decided to call corporate and made a huge complain turns out the service didn’t do a good job installing the motor. After the dealer refuse to help me with this lemon of a car. I decided to call corporate once again and file a lawsuit and agreed to actually buy my car for price of my loan because I didn’t want it anymore. The headaches and sleepless nights wasn’t worth it. I rarely full send it and I don’t boost all the damn time. I just got a lemon I hope they fix all the issues with the 400z with better seals in the engine, better drive belt, better heat exchanger. I bought a 50k mile 2015 q50 3.7 for only 14k sure it’s not as quick but these vq37 engines are bulletproof. I now have 112k miles on it and have zero issues.

    • @obflek1978
      @obflek1978 2 года назад

      sorry to hear u had to go thur all that trouble

  • @mattman460
    @mattman460 3 года назад +4

    Just bought one just like this! 2017 premium 22k miles $25k. I’m stoked on it

    • @noahestus6830
      @noahestus6830 2 года назад

      How’s it holding up?

    • @mattman460
      @mattman460 2 года назад +1

      So far so good. I only have about 45k miles but no issues to report. I definitely still love the car.

  • @KingTen91
    @KingTen91 3 года назад +22

    "y'all are smart right? You know Infiniti is Nissan."
    I had someone argue with me that Infiniti was made by Honda and I'm an idiot for not knowing more about my car.
    Their reasoning: Infiniti logo slightly looks like an upside down acura logo, so it must be right?

    • @xoulmannn
      @xoulmannn 3 года назад

      Exactly and this car is a rebadged Skyline too. Good someone knows their cars.

    • @EllisBatishchev
      @EllisBatishchev 3 года назад +3

      @@xoulmannn In Japan, its called the V37 Skyline

    • @xoulmannn
      @xoulmannn 3 года назад +1

      @@EllisBatishchev Okay, but it's a Skyline everywhere else too, even though it's not called it. Literally, the Infiniti G35, G37, Q40, Q50, & Q60 are just half of the Skylines, which where built in the same Yokohama factory, but were converted to LHD, given Infiniti badges, & exported to the US, Taiwan, Canada, & select parts of Europe. That's all there is. It's the same car just with different badging. And the car is a Skyline because the parent company is Nissan & the parent car nameplate is the Skyline.
      This is a phenomenon called rebadging and it's primarily used by companies for marketing purposes.
      If you want more examples, look at these:
      Acura RSX = Rebadged DC5 Integra
      Acura CSX = Rebadged Civic
      Chevy SS = Rebadged Holden Commodore
      Mercury Capri = Rebadged Foxbody Mustang
      GMC Sierra = Rebadged Chevy Silverado
      Pontiac GTO = Rebadged Holden Monaro
      Mercury Milan = Rebadged Ford Fusion
      Infiniti G25 (1st gen.) = Rebadged Nissan Primera
      Lexus IS300 = Rebadged Altezza
      HUNDREDS of others.

    • @xoulmannn
      @xoulmannn 3 года назад

      @@EllisBatishchev
      Thank God Wikipedia exists 😂
      Here are some quick links that will give you a taste of what I am talking about 👍🏾:
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebranding_(automobile)
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_badge-engineered_vehicles
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline

  • @ETH0S
    @ETH0S 3 года назад +2

    The guy at the next pump over at the gas station kills me. Staring you down like a hawk. 🤣

  • @coleyuhas7891
    @coleyuhas7891 3 года назад +22

    The red sport 400, has 400 hp from factory car was amazing felt very fast. It was a amazing car especially for the price. Although I didn’t like the steering column being detached having it all electronic there wasn’t a lot of feeling. But it had huge brakes, unfortunately it was in an accident and wasn’t totaled so it wasn’t bought out.😭

    • @illnevertell7863
      @illnevertell7863 2 года назад

      Yeah just watched a stock 330 whoop on the red sport here on RUclips. These cars are slow.

    • @coleyuhas7891
      @coleyuhas7891 2 года назад +4

      Ben LaTour 4.5 sec for a sedan is pretty damn quick if you ask me.

    • @LegoUniverseUNSC
      @LegoUniverseUNSC 2 года назад

      LOL what crack are you smoking

    • @rYan-qo9si
      @rYan-qo9si Год назад

      @@illnevertell7863 link to vid

    • @asap456122
      @asap456122 Год назад

      @@coleyuhas7891 it depends on what you had before coming from a nissian altima this car is really fast and it makes me smile everytime i push it i don’t even have an redsport just the silver sport

  • @Q60jay
    @Q60jay 3 года назад +70

    It’s crazy how much more stunning the Q60s is . Mine has red leather bucket seats and all the Trims in the interior are carbon fiber and also lights up at night . It’s all stock interior btw . This q50 is as basic as it gets they have q50’s with a lot nicer interior

    • @MADLITS1K
      @MADLITS1K 3 года назад +15

      That’s a base q50 .. the red sport is similar to your q60

    • @logan_kes
      @logan_kes 3 года назад +5

      There are trimmed up Q50’s. I’ve owned one and driven a few. They have the same interior, seats are different because of a coupe, but otherwise, ambient lighting, and everything. Also, Q50’s get the new blacked out gauge cluster whereas the Q60 only has the blue one

    • @Dragon228833
      @Dragon228833 3 года назад

      Q60s>q50s

    • @sosa3202
      @sosa3202 3 года назад +7

      Same that gotta be a premium cause my Q50 is an s and come with paddles and better interior someone bring this man a proper set up to drive

    • @Q60jay
      @Q60jay 3 года назад +1

      @DC Williams They definitely don’t sound better than a vq but they have their own unique sound . Check out my recent video for a sound clip.

  • @MrDanielT1234
    @MrDanielT1234 3 года назад +55

    Lol homie been lacking his knowledge. The sport and redsport has paddles

    • @foxxrider250r
      @foxxrider250r 3 года назад +5

      Yeah seems like a thorough lack of knowledge, I didn't gain anything from this video lol. Didn't even talk about any specifics hardly.

    • @EATSLEEPJD
      @EATSLEEPJD 3 года назад +1

      Actually they made it kind of weird now. 2018 or 2019 + only the red sport has paddles.

    • @dcab_289
      @dcab_289 3 года назад +2

      @@EATSLEEPJD my 2017 red sport has paddles?

    • @EATSLEEPJD
      @EATSLEEPJD 3 года назад +6

      @@dcab_289 all the red sports have paddles but only some silver sports have paddles. I think you need the sport package to get the BBK and paddles on the regular sport. I like the red sports 👌🏾.

    • @justiceodueze2897
      @justiceodueze2897 3 года назад +3

      Q50 ‘14-15 only Sport came with paddles, Q50 ‘16-20, Silversport/Sport models had to have upgraded brakes and paddle shifters optioned in.
      Red Sport models have always had paddles standard.
      Either way, to the next guy trying to buy one of these, don’t be THAT cheap. You literally can get an upgraded Sport with paddles and upgraded brakes for barely any extra money

  • @tword5292
    @tword5292 2 года назад +2

    This video made me get a Q50

  • @jose6066
    @jose6066 3 года назад +36

    Need the full list of mods for research purposes 😂

    • @claudiuclincu2927
      @claudiuclincu2927 2 года назад +1

      Me2 my man...

    • @ieatelders7692
      @ieatelders7692 2 года назад +3

      still waiting on the list

    • @jdez2701
      @jdez2701 2 года назад +3

      Same gah damn 😭

    • @ValentinGarciaEst
      @ValentinGarciaEst 2 года назад +1

      I take it that list isn’t coming out anytime soon?

    • @jose6066
      @jose6066 2 года назад

      @@ValentinGarciaEst at this point I thought it… I don’t understand why people can’t give out their specs… like we all car nerds/fam why not help each other out

  • @Cr125stin
    @Cr125stin 3 года назад +5

    Nissan makes two “VR” engines, both twin turbo v6. The VR38 (3.8L) in the GTR and the smaller sister engine the VR30 (3.0L) in this.

    • @MrInternFTL
      @MrInternFTL 3 года назад

      Did you forgot about the VR35? They put that engine in anything bigger then an Sentra and smaller then a Armanda

  • @gqfilipino95
    @gqfilipino95 3 года назад +3

    Love the infinity car reviews. The q50 and q60 is my dream car.

  • @miltonvasquez7258
    @miltonvasquez7258 3 года назад +1

    This new style of video is like modding your car... making me fall in love with it again

  • @robertpal9
    @robertpal9 3 года назад +23

    Need more q60! I own a q60 and its such a slept on vehicle

    • @mauricemotors8207
      @mauricemotors8207 3 года назад

      @ Really? The Q60 should weigh less being a coupe

    • @mitchellhamilton1753
      @mitchellhamilton1753 3 года назад +5

      @@mauricemotors8207 Coupes are usually heavier than sedans lol

    •  3 года назад +2

      @@mauricemotors8207 Not sure what it is, but the 50 weighs less.

    • @moisescristobal9740
      @moisescristobal9740 3 года назад

      If only they updated their interiors and had a bigger aftermarket support then it’d be perfect, but there’s only basic bolt ons available and basic suspension set ups in the market it’s too bad they also don’t have an updated transmission

  • @Kintizen
    @Kintizen 3 года назад +1

    Q50 is the Skyline. This shouldn't surprise as enthusiast. Underrated in US, yes!

  • @jsp5162
    @jsp5162 3 года назад +3

    Dude I’m so glad you did one of these! I have the same set up mostly- just without a fuel pump, bigger turbos, etc. I have a ‘16 red sport making 443hp and 502tq. It’s amazing for the heat exchanger, exhaust, lower dp’s, and tune. All I have. People sleep on these but the VR owners know the power the 400Z will get!!

  • @bobafett5922
    @bobafett5922 3 года назад

    Dang its crazy to see that I've been watching you for like 4 years now. You're great David!

  • @robertpal9
    @robertpal9 3 года назад +31

    You need to drive a q60 red sport. Everything you don’t like about this car is improved in the 60rs

    • @puertoricanstig
      @puertoricanstig 3 года назад +8

      Suspension is tighter than S package, but still a bit boaty, still needs sway bar upgrade and dampering upgrade. I love the RS, its menacing; but there is something missing.

    • @Q60jay
      @Q60jay 3 года назад +1

      @@puertoricanstig agreed. The handling is literally the only thing I don’t like on my Q60s

    • @puertoricanstig
      @puertoricanstig 3 года назад

      @@Q60jay I have been looking into buying one, I test drove it and only fell in love with the sound... I know straight piped its a banger

    • @Q60jay
      @Q60jay 3 года назад +1

      @@puertoricanstig check out the recent Video on my channel bro . Got some exhaust clips and flames for you 🔥🤟🏼 get it bro, you won’t regret it

    • @robertpal9
      @robertpal9 3 года назад

      @@puertoricanstig I own one and sell cars for a living. Wouldn’t buy any other vehicles

  • @J_Starr007
    @J_Starr007 3 года назад +1

    I have paddles in mine, the paddles come on the S and RS trim... While dated the Q50 is still better than the Lexus IS, Acura TLX, Jaguar XE, Volvo S60, and other luxury-sport compacts it shares a segment with.. I love my '17 Q50S 3.0t, it always puts a smile on my face and I always get looks and compliments almost daily and while it only has 300hp it is very quick, I've decimated a plethora of sports and luxury cars, and it's stock. Great vid 👏🏾👌🏾👏🏾✊🏾 FYI the G37 is the Q50, Infiniti changed their naming scheme in 14

  • @joeestrada6946
    @joeestrada6946 3 года назад +111

    That’s so weird it has the front end of a sport but no paddles and I see no Brembos

    • @kveezy3233
      @kveezy3233 3 года назад +35

      Noticed it too. Owner did a sport front bumper conversion. This is a premium 16 or 17 model.

    • @tookey2249
      @tookey2249 3 года назад +14

      Also noticed that. You can always add paddles if you want on these

    • @aRe6ix
      @aRe6ix 3 года назад +16

      Sport models come with akebono not brembos but yea weird no paddles

    • @breakingmichigan
      @breakingmichigan 3 года назад +4

      I think you can get the turbo 3.0 at a lower level with less power than the red sport, possibly why no paddles

    • @MADLITS1K
      @MADLITS1K 3 года назад +17

      I worked for infiniti the interior alone tells it’s not a sport lol

  • @victorpulido5502
    @victorpulido5502 3 года назад +2

    I bought my red sport 400 4 months ago. I'll tuning with 600 hp, what a beauty

  • @ElegantPotatoes
    @ElegantPotatoes 3 года назад +16

    Four door sleepers are my favorite, I have to check out Chris' content.

  • @xoulmannn
    @xoulmannn 3 года назад +7

    I am a Nissan ENTHUSIAST, but Nissan creating Infiniti was a dumb idea. The cars weren't really at the level of Acura & Lexus and half the models are rebadged or slightly upscaled versions of original cars, such as the Skyline, Primera, Cima, Patrol, Leopard, President, etc.

    • @anonwatchman5198
      @anonwatchman5198 3 года назад +1

      I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan 3 года назад +1

      The entries from 2002-2012 would disagree with you and put every German automaker on notice. What happened was Ghosn cut costs and refused
      to allow for proper R&D of the brand which led them to become rebadged Nissans in many instances.

    • @bestmillimeter1858
      @bestmillimeter1858 3 года назад

      They should have rebadged the R32-R34 as Infiniti models and sold them here in America, similar to what Toyota did with the Soarer and Altezza. They would have sold tons of them.

    • @xoulmannn
      @xoulmannn 3 года назад

      @@BigHeadClan What do you mean entries for 2002-2012, because they still mostly used rebadged cars that were underwhelming to European brands. Even the original cars, which were mostly SUVs didn't really stand out except maybe the FX, but that's it. Don't get me wrong, these Nissans did sell pretty damn good, especially the Skyline, but they weren't really serious competition for Audi, BMW, Benz, & even Acura and Lexus.

    • @xoulmannn
      @xoulmannn 3 года назад

      @@bestmillimeter1858 Nah, should've just kept their original names to save millions pointless debates and confusion.

  • @jas10270
    @jas10270 3 года назад +56

    A 400 hp stock motor is also available for the q50

    • @nathenoneptoh
      @nathenoneptoh 3 года назад +4

      it's the same. one has an extra water pump and speed sensors on the turbos but otherwise it's exactly the same motor

    • @dcab_289
      @dcab_289 3 года назад +2

      It’s the red sport

    • @thomasramirez7150
      @thomasramirez7150 3 года назад +1

      400 to the crank

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan 3 года назад +1

      @@thomasramirez7150 375whp for the Red Sport, these engines are underrated from the factory. The 300HP version is to the wheel.

    • @nuffflavor
      @nuffflavor 3 года назад +4

      I do not understand this dude.
      I bought the *2016* Q50 Red Sport which is 400hp.....
      FOUR YEARS LATER.... why in the hell is he talking about the standard Q50 when that is not the top of the line Q ?

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 3 года назад +47

    The Q50 and Q60 has a lot of potential
    Infiniti needs to make them as performance cars to take on the European offerings

    • @EllisBatishchev
      @EllisBatishchev 3 года назад +5

      The Red Sport has 400hp, and way more features

    • @aarlotta0187
      @aarlotta0187 3 года назад +1

      @@EllisBatishchev not really.

    • @EllisBatishchev
      @EllisBatishchev 3 года назад +4

      @@aarlotta0187 unless you have one, you can’t talk. I have a silver sport that has every single feature except for the 400hp. I have much more than this car has.

    • @jermainewilliams4675
      @jermainewilliams4675 3 года назад

      @@EllisBatishchev you can’t have one and say the rs have “way” more features 😂. Stop blowing smoke up peoples asses

    • @jhiltonPB
      @jhiltonPB 3 года назад

      my question is... why was there never a q50 coupe????

  • @snapyo1472
    @snapyo1472 3 года назад +3

    I drive a 2010 G37 sedan. I wish i could of found a Q50 w the VR30. I love my G, but daaamn that motor in the Q has so much room for mods.

  • @PresidentSpxdes
    @PresidentSpxdes 3 года назад

    Ive been thinking of getting an infiniti for the past week! Its funny that u post this

  • @luiscastillo5413
    @luiscastillo5413 3 года назад +31

    Also with the Q50 S you get brig brembo brakes

    • @charliecole624
      @charliecole624 3 года назад +26

      Akebonos

    • @hi54meyay
      @hi54meyay 3 года назад +4

      false you get a big-ish brake kit from akebono

    • @ThePandasian34
      @ThePandasian34 3 года назад +1

      @@hi54meyay 14 inch rotors and 4 gigantic pistons calipers is still considered pretty big, its just Akebono’s pads that they put on the q50/q60 are the same material that you use for daily driving and there is mo brake cooling ducts for them , put capable rotors and a capable brake pad and they’ll handle the heat and stop on a dime multiple times

    • @mauricemotors8207
      @mauricemotors8207 3 года назад +2

      @@ThePandasian34 Akebono is great I have there pads on my frontier

    • @ThePandasian34
      @ThePandasian34 3 года назад

      @@mauricemotors8207 don’t get me wrong they are amazing pads, i have them on almost every car i own, But when its performance based, i’d stick with Pagid RSL pads, hawk pads, stoptech sport pads, that will endure a racing stint or a high spirited canyon drive

  • @Helaman1111
    @Helaman1111 3 года назад +1

    The lighting of the video made the car look AMAZING

  • @tleoipl37
    @tleoipl37 3 года назад +16

    Where’s my VQ trumpets at?!?!?

    • @philloft
      @philloft 3 года назад

      righthere bro

  • @devanfields2295
    @devanfields2295 3 года назад +1

    Went from a bmw 328i to the q50 and have been happy ever since. Still plan to get a m4 or m5 in the future tho

  • @joshadolphsen4767
    @joshadolphsen4767 3 года назад +5

    What was actually added to make 525hp? I have a Q50rs with all the add-ons AWD making 100hp less? What am I missing to make that 525 a reality?

    • @joshadolphsen4767
      @joshadolphsen4767 3 года назад +1

      Also tuned with ECUtech on a dyno

    • @OxBlitzkriegxO
      @OxBlitzkriegxO 3 года назад +1

      r/t or pure turbos and a fuel system upgrade. also, at that power level, youre going to want to upgrade the trans, its starts slipping right at 500whp.

    • @peterchon1179
      @peterchon1179 2 года назад

      The 7at is hot garbage

  • @TheCorpusDelicti
    @TheCorpusDelicti 3 года назад +2

    I have a Q50 RS 400. It has 400 HP stock and paddles. The lower trims don't have them (might be an option) but they do exist.

  • @wetwea33
    @wetwea33 3 года назад +10

    I highly doubt on the stock turbos this is making 525whp. Turned up all the way on full e85 with hpfp/lpfp these creep right up around 500whp. Never seen one dyno that high, might just be a very optimistic dyno. Also used you can find these under 20k with moderate milage so they really are in another price bracket to m240i/m340i and c43s

    • @wetwea33
      @wetwea33 3 года назад +1

      @Ralph Depino I own one. Stock turbos are out of steam around 500whp on full e85 with pumps.

    • @wetwea33
      @wetwea33 3 года назад +2

      @Ralph Depino still very solid for how stock the tiny turbos are and it being a 3.0. This guy is smoking crack if he things a stock turbo b58 (no tu) is making 540whp. Thats what a pure 800 on pump gas will make.

    • @shortdog00100
      @shortdog00100 2 года назад

      Yes Sir on stock turbos with tune intercooler and supporting mods 500hp plus

  • @geraldomi
    @geraldomi 3 года назад

    Probably someone said it before but two of your cons are actually fixed by buying a greater trim level OR retrofitting them (super common on this platform)
    1. Small brakes: Most Q50S and all Q50RS 400 come with bigger rotors, and bigger Akebono Calipers. You can just upgrade your brakes at any time if you have baby brakes.
    2. Paddle Shifters: Most Q50S and all Q50RS 400 come with paddle shifters. You can retrofit paddle shifters to any Q50.
    If you don't want the hassle of retrofitting stuff yourself then just make sure you buy a Q50S with the Sport Package or a Q50RS 400.

  • @fale892
    @fale892 3 года назад +3

    I love Infinitys. 350GT is the OG, always will be!

  • @cornflake2627
    @cornflake2627 3 года назад +2

    Do another review at this time of day. Looks so nice with the sunset in the back round

  • @blues03
    @blues03 3 года назад +6

    When the video started with a "THIS IS" I thought I accidentally clicked on Doug Demuro.
    Don't scare me like that.

  • @carlosorozco4786
    @carlosorozco4786 3 года назад +1

    Great video David! I'm surprised with the Q50/60! I had the same reaction when a couple of my friends talk about the car.

  • @Jus_EL
    @Jus_EL 3 года назад +20

    Fun fact: the Q50 is known as the nissan skyline in japan

    • @xoulmannn
      @xoulmannn 3 года назад +6

      It's a Skyline regardless. Started life in Yokohama, but just ended up with the half rebadged and exported to the US, Taiwan, and Canada.

    • @mellowtones1985
      @mellowtones1985 3 года назад

      I thought the Q50 was the Nissan Fuga in Japan

  • @scottchan49
    @scottchan49 3 года назад

    i've been waiting for this video for so long

  • @chrisahn2398
    @chrisahn2398 3 года назад +30

    No one:
    Q50 owners: 4 DOOR GTR! VR38 BEST ENGINE!!! LOLM3!!! IT’S A SKYLINE!!!!

    • @killakam123321
      @killakam123321 3 года назад +10

      It is a skyline but everywhere else lol

    • @txic7330
      @txic7330 3 года назад +1

      Def not a gtr 😂

    • @lexusrcflover9175
      @lexusrcflover9175 3 года назад +2

      It's not hard to make a redsport faster then an 09-2010 gtr lol a good tune with a good Dyno shop and downpipes and boom..if you live around e85 pumps even better

    • @Theedd9991
      @Theedd9991 3 года назад

      @@lexusrcflover9175 or for the money you could do what freshkicks did and big turbo a monster z, 600whp big turbo z is dragging any red sport and running gtrs lol all for less than the base price of a red sport

    • @NoLimitz9889
      @NoLimitz9889 3 года назад +1

      Not really. I for one, don't think my Q50 sounds is a GTR. Know the facts;
      The 2016+ Q50/2017+ Q60 uses the VR30DDTT - Twin Turbo Direct Injection. Not exactly a GTR engine. I'm not sure if they share anything at all but the exhaust note has some similarity with the GTR's note.

  • @kevinarmstrong5999
    @kevinarmstrong5999 9 месяцев назад

    3.7 is still solid power. 330. My 12g S has 14" inch Akebono stoppers. Love the review!

  • @swagonwheelselites6365
    @swagonwheelselites6365 3 года назад +9

    U can’t review a base model and roast the interior bro. They make real wood and carbon for them. The only problem it’s dated now.

    • @OxBlitzkriegxO
      @OxBlitzkriegxO 3 года назад

      For real. This man is reviewing a person who bought and modded a base model luxe turd with little brakes. This is what the poors do.

  • @rdaplaumax9289
    @rdaplaumax9289 3 года назад +2

    I love my Q50 the lease was dirt cheap i put a piggy back tune, 430whp on an e30 blend its great, definetly best bang for the buck, the BIGGEST drawback to these cars is the transmission.

  • @AnthonyKefo
    @AnthonyKefo 3 года назад +11

    You should've tried the Silver Sport tech pack, or the red sport, they have paddles. Nice review btw, as usual. 👍🏼

  • @jesusmendoza7615
    @jesusmendoza7615 3 года назад

    Love what you did with the video David, keep doing you!!!

  • @benhogervorst
    @benhogervorst 3 года назад +6

    Gosh dang it David! Again with the "triptronic." It's "tiptronic."

  • @thevoxofreason8468
    @thevoxofreason8468 3 года назад +2

    I love powerful 4 doors too. Don't know why, but they're appealing to me.

  • @Sir__Pumpkin1100
    @Sir__Pumpkin1100 3 года назад +4

    wait so what exactly was done to the car? im interested in getting one and wanna know what i can do to get this numbers for a daily/track car

  • @VQBulletProof
    @VQBulletProof 2 года назад +1

    I really liked the vid u did with the g with the z front clip

  • @hudsonja
    @hudsonja 3 года назад +5

    The flashback to the G37 looked like he was going 35mph. It was weird...

    • @moisescristobal9740
      @moisescristobal9740 3 года назад +1

      Yeah lol “600”hp and he was barley being pulled back

  • @justinbastien5402
    @justinbastien5402 3 года назад +1

    Hey man love the car I have '17 q50 3.0t whatre the first mods I should focus on for hp gain? Catbacks are expensive im not sure what to do first thanks man awesome vid

    • @OxBlitzkriegxO
      @OxBlitzkriegxO 3 года назад

      heat exchanger before ANY power mods. the stock HX cant even keep up with in 80 degree weather. any of the HXs are decent, doesnt HAVE to be an AMS unit, the BMS one works great.
      after that, lower downpipes and an ECUTEK tune. that should put you just over 400whp and 450wtq.
      dont worry about intakes, just use K&N drop ins. also, for the love of god, do not join the shitty facebook group. there are almost no knowledgeable people there. join the infinitiq50.org forum. there arent smooth brain window lickers like on facebook.

  • @lazeemtaylor9949
    @lazeemtaylor9949 2 года назад +4

    The only problem i have with these are the transmissions definitely due for an update

  • @jerz8289
    @jerz8289 3 года назад +1

    Coming from a P85D, I had certain "needs" while also trying to spend a lot less money. I did a lot of research and only a well-equipped Silver Sport was comparable- in a unique way. Although the power off the line was lacking (relatively speaking), the Q50 has an EXTREMELY overlooked option that is very similar to Tesla's autopilot. It does very well on a well-marked highway with turns

    • @jerz8289
      @jerz8289 3 года назад

      Well, I couldn’t hold out any longer and went back to Tesla- this time a Model 3 Dual Motor. Much quicker than my Q50 (only .7 seconds slower than the P85D), much better tech and UI than Q50; AP 3.0 is superior, very efficient- hardly any phantom drain when it sits overnight vs. P85D, and much better range. I loved the style of the q50, but when I was driving local to the gym and home again, the EPA was disappointing. To make things worse, the current administration’s attack on fossil fuels has caused gas prices to sky rocket. In my Tesla, no more pump-rage, no worries about oil changes, no concern about brake wear, just tires. If you haven’t driven a Tesla- test drive one and find out what it is all about. Of all the different kinds of cars I have bought from different companies- the Tesla is the best. Not perfect, but the best all round.

  • @edryan1845
    @edryan1845 3 года назад +3

    i would love to see him review a modded accord 2.0, have a few people i know of making over 400whp in them a big turbo one making 470whp walked a hellcat

  • @MsMrBigglesworth
    @MsMrBigglesworth 5 месяцев назад

    The platform is great to do mild mods on. Buuuut, the elephant in the room is the transmission. The JACO trans cannot handle large amounts of increased power over time before failing. Even the RS400 has the torque converter and gears/syncros beefed up over the standard 7-speed auto in the regular q50. And that is just handling 400hp/350ft-lbs. Not the 500+ whp you are showing. Not that it won’t work, it will. But don’t think you’re going to get the same longevity and reliability as stock. Also, the ratios aren’t there, so those who like to do a bunch of 0-60 or 1/4 mile times can get disappointed even with the power boost in comparison to doing the same for other competitors. *IT* is definitely a very good grand touring package and daily driver. Turbos/ECU/Engine/suspension/exhaust can all be upgraded, but to me the weakest link in the car is the transmission.

  • @617evan6
    @617evan6 3 года назад +4

    These are still being marketed as the “Nissan Skyline v37” in japan

  •  3 года назад +1

    Should review mine. 2012 G37s sedan with 6 speed manual. FBO & Tuned. Not 500hp but still fun

  • @ILLESTDIAMONDZ
    @ILLESTDIAMONDZ 3 года назад +21

    Baby GTR ??

  • @dr.awesome7302
    @dr.awesome7302 3 года назад

    never been this early love the videos

  • @js5584
    @js5584 Год назад

    I love my q50. I had a 2013 G37 and just got a 2021 3.0t sport and it is awesome.

  • @tylerturner3145
    @tylerturner3145 3 года назад +3

    I was torn between either getting an IS350 or Q50. I sometimes regret getting the Lexus because it's overpriced

    • @DentSideDee71
      @DentSideDee71 2 года назад

      Q50.. 🙌🏽

    • @shaunr5450
      @shaunr5450 2 года назад

      We just traded our IS 350. Fun car, handling and braking was better than the Q50 we have now. Everything else is better in the Q imo.

  • @klarkqent
    @klarkqent 2 года назад

    The stock 7spd is RIDICULOUSLY stout. If anyone remembers the q50 eau rouge concept, they put a gtr engine in one and left everything else bone stock just to make sure the trans could hold 600hp

  • @eddyskate100
    @eddyskate100 3 года назад +10

    that tan interior its so bad lol i made sure i got a black interior when i got mine makes it look soooo much better. But anyways review a 3.7 with a kit and compare it to this 3.0
    just make sure its a S not the base lol

    • @TheMildGamer12
      @TheMildGamer12 3 года назад +2

      Black interior looks garbage!! Tan all the way

    • @DentSideDee71
      @DentSideDee71 2 года назад

      @@TheMildGamer12 🙌🏽🔥

  • @gigi_subi
    @gigi_subi 3 года назад +2

    I actually really liked the night time review!

  • @josh4585
    @josh4585 3 года назад +6

    As a G35 owner, I too have a hard time loving the front lol. G37 wins in that category

    • @ma2x-v6p
      @ma2x-v6p 2 года назад

      Do a g37 front end swap

  • @RR-nl2ep
    @RR-nl2ep 3 года назад +1

    I was looking at the Q50 RS, Charger Scat, Genesis G70 and Camaro SS. I went with the Q50 RS and love it just the way it is except that it max out at 155.

    • @DentSideDee71
      @DentSideDee71 2 года назад

      SS maro or the Q50 💯😈

    • @RR-nl2ep
      @RR-nl2ep 2 года назад +1

      @@DentSideDee71 Q50 for sure. I hung with SSsin my old Camry. One dude only got in my lane ahead of me because I slowed down for traffic. He thought he got the best of me. LOL. He was just butt hurt.😆

    • @Pallu420
      @Pallu420 Год назад

      @@RR-nl2ep if you actually think anyone who knows a thing about cars is gonna believe you beat any Camaro ss in a Camry you have to be out of your dog ass mind

  • @totalq724
    @totalq724 3 года назад +5

    I’ve been looking into buying one of these actually lol

    • @Username-sf1bk
      @Username-sf1bk 3 года назад +2

      Infinity Tech here! These very solid cars EXCEPT for the turbos. Just be sure to check the service history to see weather they have been replaced or not before buying one. Pretty hefty job to replace them. It’s an engine out job.

    • @MADLITS1K
      @MADLITS1K 3 года назад +1

      Worked at an infiniti dealership these cars are junk lol tons of issues

    • @StrongerThanEver84
      @StrongerThanEver84 3 года назад

      @@Username-sf1bk dude says hes an infiniti tech and didnt even spell infiniti right lmao!

    • @Username-sf1bk
      @Username-sf1bk 3 года назад

      @@StrongerThanEver84 whatever lol.

  • @BobThe9534
    @BobThe9534 3 года назад +1

    hi David. nice vid. liked b4 watching b/c i knew it was goin to be good

  • @slowspecv69
    @slowspecv69 3 года назад +11

    God q50s are beautiful

  • @Vhrdiego
    @Vhrdiego 3 года назад +1

    The Sport trim has gtr paddle shifters
    And different front bumper and akebono brake calipers

  • @thundermite1241
    @thundermite1241 3 года назад +3

    I still think id be cool if nissan did a v8 coupe similar to the 370

    • @weskids1
      @weskids1 3 года назад

      Infiniti q70. It’s similar to the q50 I’m not sure what the difference is. But they have a 5.6 v8 option for the q70 look it up

    • @raccs600
      @raccs600 3 года назад

      But yeah what’s really sad is Nissan only made 2 coupes the Altima & 350/370 & the Altima doesn’t count

    • @klever6913
      @klever6913 3 года назад

      @@raccs600 Nissan made many more coupes than the 350 and 370. If you were talking about coupes with the VQ you should have specified.

    • @raccs600
      @raccs600 3 года назад

      @@klever6913 yeah with vq I meant

    • @daftpanda6533
      @daftpanda6533 3 года назад

      @@raccs600 g35/g37/q60 are Nissans in Japan. Does that count?

  • @robwes9227
    @robwes9227 3 года назад

    Awesom review. You got another sub.

  • @tofuuyaya7824
    @tofuuyaya7824 3 года назад +6

    Racebox: We can do 700 horses to the wheels
    Z1: 525 take it or leave it.

    • @jmathiz
      @jmathiz 3 года назад

      Racebox ftw