At Austrian they do pretty intense humidity tests. You’ll see that in the upcoming making-of video. Other mics (like my Neumann 193) start crackling when it’s too humid.
Awesome! I have zero experience with Austrian Audio, but so far everything I heard is great, I saw a lot of songs and videos recorded with Austrian Audio mics, and it's really great! Very cool video!
Hello from Franconia / Germany 🤘 Thank you for this very informative video. I own the OC 818 myself and am absolutely thrilled. It's really awesome and worth every cent. I can't wait to see the video showing the whole manufacturing process.
Thanks! For this info and the Jensen video. It's great to get info directly from the engineers. And you give our questions. Videos I want to see more than once.
This was an excellent demo of how good a microphone can sound like. I did not realise that this was the microphone they had been using to record the vocals, until the change of polar patterns, at about 22 minutes into the video.
Austrian Audio and JZ Microphones are making such KILLER products these days. I feel that both companies are blowing the doors off the “industry standards” nowadays.
As a Cubase user, you should have asked them when they will update the polar pattern plugins to be compatible with apple silicon and vst3. They have promised this for several years now!!!!
@@KohleAudioKult it must be 1,5 y since I emailed them, and followed up after 6-7 months. I bought 2 OC818, so I feel somewhat cheated. The mics are great though. Looking forward to your video about these problems.
Pack-ette (pronounced) Il'y a personnes qui parle Francais en America. That's a very nice mic. I'm seeing this listed at $935 if this is the OC18 Studio set This includes the shock mount and a special cable which fits the smaller second jack on the back of the mic.
All things in audio is " it depends ".... The issue is that sound is subjective, so what one person thinks sounds good, another may not. So it is the product, and engineer that gets a result that 7 out of 10 people in the room will say is " good ". That is the litmus. If you can get 7 out of 10 people to say hell yeah, then you won. The other three people are outliers. One is hyper critical, one is completely naive and couldn't make the same decision more than once, while the third is just the person who couldn't pass an A/B test, but thinks they can. Great, heck even good engineers know a good tool when they hear it. There is a thing that pops out and they smile knowing they can exploit that " tool ". All mics, speakers, and instruments, are just tools, and the artist is what can make that tool a make or break thing. A $1 dollar mic can sound like a million bucks in the right context and application. It is all about the talent of the artist and engineer at hand. The rest is simply opinion and conjecture. You never really know unless you know.
I'm getting a vocal booth for my home studio. What microphone to Mike condenser? Mike, would you recommend best bang for the buck? I don't want to spend $1,000 on a microphone. I heard avatone makes a pretty good one. What would you recommend? Best bang for the buck?
@@KohleAudioKult It puzzles me because Austrian Audio with former AKG staff could have built a very nice sounding microphone but chooses to design a mic that is over compressed and distorts in some frequencies.
There will be a video with 4 different snare mics very soon, one of them being a condenser. I think this will show the typical difference very clearly. Stay tuned!
I wanted to buy it but somehow I do not like this 5khz bump, especially on my voice. It may sound vintage because of this, but on certain sources it is not a good thing.
Is it my imagination or can modern software dynamic EQ / Multiband expander/compressors basically make and decent quality mics sound good enough for commercial recordings?
No you can’t. Especially the transients make a big difference. I recently EQd a ribbon to sound like a condenser. It still sounded so much rounder and relaxed. Nothing sub could change about that.
@@KohleAudioKult Well... I respectfully disagree... transient modifiers are available in the digital domain. It's all just waveform modification. In the digital domain, if you can describe the difference as mathematics or an algorithm... the waveforms can be made to null, and if they null... they are identical.
My big take away here is that if they can get away with charging it; they will. Shocker, right? Above roughly $2500 it’s just greed more or less. Even then, mics around $2500 are pricing in some hype. All those high priced mics are not worth the whole squeeze. Zero average listeners have ever said, “I can tell the room mic is a Neumann U87 for the drums.” I just tracked my two piece band. The room mic was an AKG Perception 220. I got it for like 60 bucks used. It sounds fine. Little eq. Little extra verb because our room is acoustic garbage. Compress. Poof …… sounds great. The last mic that blew my socks off was the Scope Labs Periscope. That is unique.
No average listener will say that. But he will say if it sounds good or bad to him based on his conditioning. And the engineer that had to come up with a good sounding record will have that much of an easier time arriving at that sound with excellent components. Which include excellent microphones like a u87.
Why make music for the “average listener”? Why even care about them? Make music to your own standards. I’m not advocating for absurdly expensive either…they are tools and there are artistic choices to be made. I don’t see any value in trying to guess what makes others happy. Make music that makes you happy and the rest is out of your control.
@@louderthangod The average listener is 99.9% of a potential audience. That’s why. They will know the difference between acceptable and not acceptable. They will not know the difference in the gradations of acceptable, nor will they care of the songs are good.
@@Tt-nt1iu Sounds like you and I are into making music for very different reasons. You’ll make more money in banking so if you make music strictly for commerce it’s probably not a smart investment.
@@louderthangodI’m into making music that interests me and is something other people will find interesting. That’s more difficult, in my experience, than just making music I find interesting. I’m into recording for the sole purpose of being able to export my music without a third party being involved. My band used to go to studios and the juice wasn’t worth the hassle squeeze. The studio we would use had a suit of very expensive mics (U87’s, 184’s,) etc etc. The stuff I’m using I would define as mid grade (52, 91a, 98AMP, OM1’s, 220’s, 57, etc) is getting me results that are comparable. I’m mixing this stuff and burn a lot of fuel on the sound. Average listener won’t know or care. I get that you record for only your ears, or at least that’s how I understand what you’re saying, but the sound difference between super expensive and even low tier (220) is just not that huge in my experience.
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Can microphones sensitivity change due to humidity?
At Austrian they do pretty intense humidity tests. You’ll see that in the upcoming making-of video. Other mics (like my Neumann 193) start crackling when it’s too humid.
Will Austrian Audio design/develope a ribbon mic? That would be kreat!
This is the most clear and comprehensive information of what actually impacts the sound of a microphone that I’ve seen on RUclips. Thanks!
Hey! I won! Amazing! 😃 And you said it correctly the first time! Its very commonly mispronounced here in the US. I Live in Texas
Congrats!!!
Congrats!
Congrats Sam! So Texas it is! 🤘
Let’s get in touch and make sure you get your mic asap!
Congrats!
@@KohleAudioKult sounds good to me! whats the best way for us to get in touch?
Superb episode! Thanks for creating this Kristian!
Thank you for doing these interviews and educating us about the tiny but very important details of audio production!
These kinds of talks are my facorite to be honest. Just so much to dig into, so much passion. Really informative and fun to listen to.
Awesome! I have zero experience with Austrian Audio, but so far everything I heard is great, I saw a lot of songs and videos recorded with Austrian Audio mics, and it's really great! Very cool video!
Hello from Franconia / Germany 🤘
Thank you for this very informative video.
I own the OC 818 myself and am absolutely thrilled. It's really awesome and worth every cent. I can't wait to see the video showing the whole manufacturing process.
Thanks man! 💪
Video is in the works!
Nice T-shirt and good to hear the info about microphones.
Just bought it in Stockholm!
Amazing information Kohle -- loved it. Thanks so much.
My body is ready! Good stuff, Kohle! Thanks for making videos like this
Welcome to the nerd club, John! 😇🥳
"It depends" LOL Love it. Great video!
All good.... but the most important....the interview sound was perfect!
Thanks! For this info and the Jensen video. It's great to get info directly from the engineers. And you give our questions. Videos I want to see more than once.
Thanks to you!
I make those videos because I wanna learn more! Great to see there are enough other nerds who enjoy them! 🤘❤️
And I love your videos man. You rock
Great episode - thanks. That was the best description of polar patterns I’ve heard!
I gotta agree. Finally someone able to explain it!
Excellent, just excellent!
Thank you for great info!👏👍
This was an excellent demo of how good a microphone can sound like. I did not realise that this was the microphone they had been using to record the vocals, until the change of polar patterns, at about 22 minutes into the video.
Thanks! It's also a great example of the use of the figure-of-8 pattern.
Interviews sound so much better like this compared to lav mics.
Great video. Thanks !
I love these nerdy videos!
Me too!
Great content - very useful!
Austrian Audio and JZ Microphones are making such KILLER products these days. I feel that both companies are blowing the doors off the “industry standards” nowadays.
I agree. Both great companies!
As a nerd I love these tech talk videos!
Great Interview !
Great video and great mic. Love my AA 818’s
Same here!
As a Cubase user, you should have asked them when they will update the polar pattern plugins to be compatible with apple silicon and vst3. They have promised this for several years now!!!!
I did that before we filmed. I received a few comments about compatibility problems and reported them. They were very interested!
@@KohleAudioKult it must be 1,5 y since I emailed them, and followed up after 6-7 months. I bought 2 OC818, so I feel somewhat cheated. The mics are great though. Looking forward to your video about these problems.
The plugin works great on my systems.
I think they’re working on the Silicon thing, but hey, I can’t speak for Austrian Audio!
@@KohleAudioKult You have to run Cubase in Rosetta mode, then your overall performance goes quite much down.
informative talk. thanks!
I won too, thank you so much! Great addition to my little studio 🙂
Great information…thank you 👍
Nice shirt! 😊
Just bought it in Stockholm
I want to be a kool nerd like Kohle! 🤘
You are!
I think only Australia knows to build up legendary mics.
Fantastic video
Pack-ette (pronounced) Il'y a personnes qui parle Francais en America. That's a very nice mic. I'm seeing this listed at $935 if this is the OC18 Studio set This includes the shock mount and a special cable which fits the smaller second jack on the back of the mic.
All things in audio is " it depends ".... The issue is that sound is subjective, so what one person thinks sounds good, another may not. So it is the product, and engineer that gets a result that 7 out of 10 people in the room will say is " good ". That is the litmus. If you can get 7 out of 10 people to say hell yeah, then you won. The other three people are outliers. One is hyper critical, one is completely naive and couldn't make the same decision more than once, while the third is just the person who couldn't pass an A/B test, but thinks they can. Great, heck even good engineers know a good tool when they hear it. There is a thing that pops out and they smile knowing they can exploit that " tool ". All mics, speakers, and instruments, are just tools, and the artist is what can make that tool a make or break thing. A $1 dollar mic can sound like a million bucks in the right context and application. It is all about the talent of the artist and engineer at hand. The rest is simply opinion and conjecture. You never really know unless you know.
I'm getting a vocal booth for my home studio. What microphone to Mike condenser? Mike, would you recommend best bang for the buck? I don't want to spend $1,000 on a microphone. I heard avatone makes a pretty good one. What would you recommend? Best bang for the buck?
Simple. Get the OC16. I think they’re around 350 or so. Workhorse mics! Great on vocals too.
Thanks for that. That sounds like a very good microphone
good stuff
So why does the microphone not sound pleasent used in this interview? Its a Austrian Audio microphone right?
Maybe you wanna check your monitoring?
@@KohleAudioKult I have couple of them wich do you think is the most suitable? NS10, Genelec or KRK?
@@KohleAudioKult It puzzles me because Austrian Audio with former AKG staff could have built a very nice sounding microphone but chooses to design a mic that is over compressed and distorts in some frequencies.
All you guys going on in English! Kudos,very impressive.
Fin tröja!
Tack!
Yes ti track heavenly correct tricks with the mic is the secret ticket. And occult knowledge
Not sure if you've done a video on it yet, but for miking up a snare: condenser Vs dynamic?
There will be a video with 4 different snare mics very soon, one of them being a condenser. I think this will show the typical difference very clearly. Stay tuned!
@@KohleAudioKult I look forward to seeing it! :)
I wanted to buy it but somehow I do not like this 5khz bump, especially on my voice. It may sound vintage because of this, but on certain sources it is not a good thing.
Sam Paquette sound Quebecker ( Québécois) or French Canadian.
yup, French Canadian
Off Herr Kohle The new Kanonenfieber album sounds amazing! On
Thanks! I'm pretty happy so far as well.
I got a non mic ?
3 words earthworks ethos
If i don't believe in 'Hell" where will i see you?
In the next video? 🤪
y9oure a soccer fan? didnt know that....
Of course! Who’s not in Europe?
Not a fan of the Swedish team though, but I like the shirt.
Is it my imagination or can modern software dynamic EQ / Multiband expander/compressors basically make and decent quality mics sound good enough for commercial recordings?
No you can’t.
Especially the transients make a big difference. I recently EQd a ribbon to sound like a condenser. It still sounded so much rounder and relaxed. Nothing sub could change about that.
@@KohleAudioKult Well... I respectfully disagree... transient modifiers are available in the digital domain.
It's all just waveform modification. In the digital domain, if you can describe the difference as mathematics or an algorithm... the waveforms can be made to null, and if they null... they are identical.
My big take away here is that if they can get away with charging it; they will. Shocker, right? Above roughly $2500 it’s just greed more or less. Even then, mics around $2500 are pricing in some hype. All those high priced mics are not worth the whole squeeze.
Zero average listeners have ever said, “I can tell the room mic is a Neumann U87 for the drums.”
I just tracked my two piece band. The room mic was an AKG Perception 220. I got it for like 60 bucks used. It sounds fine. Little eq. Little extra verb because our room is acoustic garbage. Compress. Poof …… sounds great.
The last mic that blew my socks off was the Scope Labs Periscope. That is unique.
No average listener will say that. But he will say if it sounds good or bad to him based on his conditioning. And the engineer that had to come up with a good sounding record will have that much of an easier time arriving at that sound with excellent components. Which include excellent microphones like a u87.
Why make music for the “average listener”? Why even care about them? Make music to your own standards. I’m not advocating for absurdly expensive either…they are tools and there are artistic choices to be made. I don’t see any value in trying to guess what makes others happy. Make music that makes you happy and the rest is out of your control.
@@louderthangod The average listener is 99.9% of a potential audience. That’s why. They will know the difference between acceptable and not acceptable. They will not know the difference in the gradations of acceptable, nor will they care of the songs are good.
@@Tt-nt1iu Sounds like you and I are into making music for very different reasons. You’ll make more money in banking so if you make music strictly for commerce it’s probably not a smart investment.
@@louderthangodI’m into making music that interests me and is something other people will find interesting. That’s more difficult, in my experience, than just making music I find interesting.
I’m into recording for the sole purpose of being able to export my music without a third party being involved. My band used to go to studios and the juice wasn’t worth the hassle squeeze.
The studio we would use had a suit of very expensive mics (U87’s, 184’s,) etc etc. The stuff I’m using I would define as mid grade (52, 91a, 98AMP, OM1’s, 220’s, 57, etc) is getting me results that are comparable. I’m mixing this stuff and burn a lot of fuel on the sound.
Average listener won’t know or care.
I get that you record for only your ears, or at least that’s how I understand what you’re saying, but the sound difference between super expensive and even low tier (220) is just not that huge in my experience.