Tonal Cues ep2: The Most Common Stereo Micing Mistake
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- with Martyn Heyne at Lichte Studio Berlin.
This short video is about the most common stereo micing mistake and also covers the basics of stereo microphone technique in order to explain it.
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Good point! Never thought of it that way, though it does slightly confuse me because something like the Glynn John method of recording drums resembles your forbidden pattern, but with the mics spread out along the radius further and rotated on the axis. Thanks for such a good video!
Thank you. You did a great job of explaining that.
Bloody good job!!
Such a clear and entertaining explanation, thanks Martyn. I'm gonna enjoy this series so much!
Thanks Adrien, I appreciate it!
That was incredible, where can I hear your next drum solo?
3:56 Nice pause for comedic effect. Liked.
Thanks for the advice! Great info!
Thanks for such a clear explanation :)))
That was amazing! Everything you need to get started with stereo recording!
Glad to hear it helped!
Very good stuff! Please keep going!
Great video! Thanks!!!!
Thanks
Beyerdynamuc MC-930.
I have made a HUUUUUGE mistake. Thanks for the Clearification 😅
Glad it helped - we're all learning!
Très bien Martyn...😆I mean very good, concise & well-explained thanks....
Merci beaucoup!
@@martynheynemusic 😆
My question is, why is AB recommended with Omni capsules? I’ve been focusing on using Cardioids because of the risky rooms with low ceilings etc.. Thanks 👍
Any thoughts on Glynn Johns or Recorderman overhead positioning? On both, the mics are pointed inwards, yet tend to give lovely stereophonic and binaural results, from my experience
Sub-SCRIBED!
Can this technique be used on an acoustic guitar to create a stereo image?
How does this apply to a Glyn Johns style drum setup? Seems to give a nice stereo image, both pointing more or less inward.
Great question! Basically in Glyn Johns technique the mics are so far apart from one another, and so close to the source, that it's not really a stereo technique anymore but rather two mono sources with panning. The bleed fills the spaces in between.
In addition to Martyn's answer you'll also notice the two mics are not competing for the stereo image, amplitude and time are both working together still. Glyn Johns only works if the mics aren't competing, which is why you make sure they are equidistant from the snare and roughly 32in away. The ride sound will arrive at the rear microphone before the overhead mic it will also be louder due to it's proximity. I'd argue it's a bit like a spaced pair in terms of qualifying for "stereo-technique-ness" and in my book it's on the brink of still being a stereo technique but it's on very shaky ground haha! You'll notice if you set it up correctly you can pan the overhead mic hard right and the behind mic hard left and still end up with the snare sounding in the middle, to me that's enough to qualify it as a "stereo" array. Especially considering you can balance the full kit quite nicely without any spots if done correctly. But to each their own! I think one could easily argue it's not a "true" stereo technique.
@@JonathanGalle Think of it like this: Can you use Glyn Johns on a piano? On a choir?
@@martynheynemusic Fair enough, but does the Glyn Johns array not capture an accurate stereophonic sound of the kit? I'd argue it sounds better than almost all of the traditional stereo arrays for kit for most jazz/small kit applications. It creates an accurate stereo image of a drum kit and by that definition I would say it is a "stereo array" as it creates a stereo image. I think calling it two mono sources with panning is a bit oversimplified and doesn't give the array it's due. For comparison: I would argue the Decca tree is a stereo array, If you agree with me that it is a stereo array then you'll also probably agree that the array tends to fall apart on smaller sources than orchestra. Does this officially make it not a stereo array? You could obviously argue "no it's a LCR" but in my book a stereo array is one that represents a realistic stereo image. Once again, I'm just being pedantic about all this, in regards to the video and the greater conversation it is largely un-important haha! We can both however agree that pointing cardioids in towards each other spaced out is a bad idea and to absolutely not do it hehe!
Mooi gesproken dat Nederlands!
Dank je wel Albert
@@martynheynemusicHeel mooi ! Das Deutsch war auch perfekt.
As a pianist, I am trying to achieve a recording like my ears hear the piano. Zenph Studio recordings of their piano used a dummy head with the mic elements in the ears. So should the spacing between two mics be about the width of a head? And should there be an object in between about the size of a head to block the sound from opposite sides from being caught by the side sensitivity of the mic?
Brilliant question, thank you! I'll answer this in the next episode
here we go: ruclips.net/video/3g4KYXJ9Vjk/видео.html
dude... your video has the most annoying hiss sound throughout it...hard to watch an audio guy talking about audio mistakes when this is going on
dude?🤷🏽♂️
it's not *that* bad is it?
Sure there’s a bit of hiss, but this explanation was very clear and concise. Two things can be simultaneously true - there is indeed hiss, but the information delivered is accurate.
nah its poor form plain and simply
@@JesseJenkinsNz you sure your name isn’t dick?