"Rumpy pumpy" made me guffaw out loud. Wherever did you hear that?! Dante's thoughts on love and lust are very interesting. It's almost Buddhist in its defense of rationality and rejection of emotional dysregulation. As for Marc Antony I suppose Dante felt that he was spared the second circle of hell because he was also rationally using his "love" for Cleopatra to alter the politics of Rome. It was not only a desire, but it was also a tactical choice.
The reason for the depiction of Minos' tail in the artwork as being a snake's could be that snakes are a cthonic symbol in art. In older religions snakes were also associated with wisdom, as they are associated with Apollo and his son Asclepius, and Minos was also considered to be wise.
I remember reading the Lust section in college. This is the first time we see people suffering the consequences of their sins. Francesca really stands out here.
I like your cozy office, it looks alot like mine 😊 I just added a solid brass Corinthian helmet with a huge crest to the shelf. I sit there for hours wearing it while watching scary ghost videos LOL
Note that the paolo and Francesca affair brings us back to north France (beyond her name, arguably) and Britain. The pair got together also due to a chivalric romance book about King Arthur, Lancelot and Guinevere (they see themselves as Lancelot and Guinevere of course), and the book itself is called by Francesca "Galeotto" - "Galehaut" which in the Breton Cycle favors Lancelot and Guinevere. "Galeotto fu 'l libro e chi lo scrisse"
I wonder if Dante choosing to depict Francesca Da Rimini and Paolo Malatesta together in spite of their sin was a way of Dante expressing sympathy for lovers unable to be with one another. Given that he reunites with Beatrice upon entering Paradise, I feel like there could be a parallel between lovers encountering the divine within each other. I don’t know whether Dante ascribed to the idea that love, even when misapplied and sinful, cannot be totally evil (as obviously love comes from God), and that to separate sinful lovers could be a sin in and of itself, but I got that impression. I could be totally wrong in that interpretation. But I always just found it weirdly wholesome and romantic that Dante allowed sinful lovers remain together in their torment.
One of my favorite edu-tainment RUclipsrs talking about one of my favorite books is already enough to make me smile......PLUS Cinzia is red.....oh my....😳
The best depiction I've seen of lust as an actual place was in "dead boy detectives" - I won't spoil it if anyone hasn't seen it, but the series is quite good.
I’ve been loving this series! I had to read Dante’s Inferno for school several years back, and it just never made much sense to me. This series has given so much more historical context, love it!!
have you ever listened to the 2008 musical on the Divine Comedy made by Marco Frisina. Very beautiful, unfortunately in Italy there is not much culture and love for musicals in general and it has never been remade. But on RUclips you can find all the songs in CD version. Francesca's aria is one of the most beautiful.
It's unfortunate that so many people throughout history have tried to qualify and quantify love as a singular absolute thing. Love with reason is permissible and anything else is lust, but reason has shades of subjectivity. I would like to think if Dante was alive today he'd see the logic in there not being solely one form love and maybe even acknowledging that lust could be valid at times. And if nothing else I think he would say that "rubby pumpy" is a fantastic innuendo.
This series is great. This episode is gold! Cinzia is smart, interesting and so entertaining in all the best ways! Thank you for another brilliant video Cinzia!
Just wanted to say thank you so much for this series on Dante, it's something I've circled around for awhile yet never sat down and read through it as much as I would like to. I also wanted to comment on your episode about three months back where you said your channel was dying due to RUclips's algorithm and that you felt it was your fault somehow that you couldn't dither with it to make more viewers find you. It is absolutely not your fault. It is entirely the fault of RUclips and it's employees constantly trying to re-invent the wheel and by doing so making it much harder on content creators such as yourself and viewers such as myself who are constantly distracted by new creators that we have to purposely filter out even though it might be initially interesting yet taking us away from more important creators such as yourself. Like you I also have ADHD and also Autism Spectrum Disorder. Just prior to watching that episode I was watching another channel where the host was wearing a t-shirt I thought was relevant 'Let me overthink this'. I used to overthink things far too much and it would drive me up the wall, what could I have done differently here, there, everywhere. In the end it's the fault of the condition I have and that you have and that millions of others have. I have been watching your content for over three years now and when I found your channel I was going through an especially dark time. Since then I've seen that you have also had your difficulties in life and have always cheered you on as I am sure so many others have too. I hope since you made that episode three months ago that things have improved for you and continue to improve and that, like me, you can take all of that negative feedback you receive and toss it in the bin where it belongs. You are a wonderful and interesting person Cinzia and with your content have made so many happy and opened up interests in ancient literature and history that others might have never discovered. You are a bright shining beacon for us. Never let that light go out. Now for a confession. This is how important it was for me to write this. My cat is on my desk so I have to balance my keyboard on my lap as I type this. She is quietly napping away and I suppose I could pick her up and put her on the chair next to me and she would return to sleep but she looks so peaceful and typing while the keyboard is balanced on my knees isn't too bad I guess. . . Anyway, hope all is well with you and that you've gamed RUclips's stupid algorithm so it returns those subscribers who've been pulled away by too many distractions. Best Wishes, Michael
Excellent series! ❤ I'm loving it! About Mark Anthony's absence from the Second Circle: he is more greedy than lustful, don't you think? I mean, putting Cleopatra in this circle - because of misogynistic reasoning from Dante's context - makes sense, but Mark Anthony is more wrathful and even more greedy, then one can make the case for his placement outside the Second Circle, he practiced other kinds of sin more intensely.
Spectacular episode. One of my favorites so far. The snake tail is also interesting to me... I thought the same about the Genesis imagery. It's a fascinating addition.
This continues to be fascinating. I saw a beautiful copy of Dante's Inferno at a book store. I might have to pick it up. Thank you for a greatly informative and entertaining video!
Poor Minos. Haunted by cows, and now mostly remembered by appending a cow to his name. Even having a judgy serpent for a tail doesn't outweigh the minotaur in our collective consciousness. But at least he tried. FTA
Been binge watching your videos and am always excited to hear your perspectives and your commentary and summary of these stories. I've not read a lot of these older stories, like Dante's work, in a long time so it is fascinating to not only have a recap but background information as well as extra facts to help better understand the views in which he was writing or what was going on at that time. Very good stuff.
Your content is great! So glad I found your channel! Thank you for what you do! ❤ As an astrologer, my immediate thought on the snakes/scorpios was "how appropriate juxtaposed with the cows!" Scorpio rules snakes and scorpions, and is opposite Taurus, the cow, its polarity. Both are on an axis concerned with our valuation by others. Taurus, ruled by Venus, the 2nd sign, represents resources, skills, and gifts. Scorpio, ruled by Mars/Pluto, the 8th sign, represents shared resources, inheritance, intimacy, and occult knowledge. 🤔☺️♏️♉️✨️
The Sistine chapel thing I think is just using the snake as a metaphor of his phallic virility coming from witch craft (aka Lucifer possessed Eve's desire for lust in the original form of a serpent convincing her) and the serpent climbs Minos' body like a tree, so this is the part of the process of the merging between Christian and Pagan philology and art that happened after the Renaissance merging of the two. It's also a devil's tail, so the snake symbolizes the devil working through humanity's loins and lust as poisonous to them, aka the venom biting into him, which causes the devils standing around him to become perverted in contortions of painful and pleasurable ecstasy.
IIRC Francesca also says that , even if she is hell because of it, she still wants Paolo and basically regrets nothing. And Dante is also sympathetic to them. Amor c'ha nullo amato...
Did not expect that I would enjoy this as much as I did. So Dante's lust is full of Dark Eldar? I kinda glossed this and Gluttony over when I read with my brother a few years ago. Very interested to see Gluttony now as well.
Thanks for the share sister 🌹 …… dang it , this ain’t time for romance and sentimentalism . Courtly love seems to be preferred . What ever is motive for Dante as he says , things are vailed ( …… I believe it’s his words ) I do like listening to your work and appreciate you . Take care ✝️
PS: I don't know if not putting Marc Anthony in the 2nd circle would be a "favor" to Romans.... He's (unless I remember badly, AND COULD BE that my memory failed) not mentioned at all... like, he's nowhere... And being nowhere, could mean that Dante simply just put him in the Canto III O.O
"... raised being told about the Beatles..." this boomer explodes with laughter imagining y'all young 'uns being fascinated with the medieval tales of John, Paul, George and RIngo! (okay grandpa, calm down, we get it ... we've heard your Beatles stories a dozen times already...)
Lust has always been my idea of true love. Dante was a prude. The red dress stimulates my true love. Im a dog i know. Dog among men, man among dogs. Great video insights as always ❤
"Don't give up doggystyle just yet because Dante has your back." FIRE
"That was quite timely actually, wasn't it?" Marvelous beginning, cracked me up. I'm enjoying this series!
I absolutely lost it at "I know, the man is haunted by cows" 🤣 New favorite mythology hot take!
Please don't get discouraged by the low view counts Cinzia, this is a great series!
@@BoZoiD57 We're up to 10k views now - practically a stadium gig! Not bad for a learned guide to a 600 y/o poem.
"Rumpy pumpy" made me guffaw out loud. Wherever did you hear that?! Dante's thoughts on love and lust are very interesting. It's almost Buddhist in its defense of rationality and rejection of emotional dysregulation. As for Marc Antony I suppose Dante felt that he was spared the second circle of hell because he was also rationally using his "love" for Cleopatra to alter the politics of Rome. It was not only a desire, but it was also a tactical choice.
I actually am currently playing Dante's Inferno.
This series of yours will enrich it a lot. Thank you!
Sorry came to see Cinzia, not Aphrodite talking about lust! 🤣
The reason for the depiction of Minos' tail in the artwork as being a snake's could be that snakes are a cthonic symbol in art. In older religions snakes were also associated with wisdom, as they are associated with Apollo and his son Asclepius, and Minos was also considered to be wise.
I remember reading the Lust section in college. This is the first time we see people suffering the consequences of their sins. Francesca really stands out here.
There are worse things than Cinzia's excellent voice schooling me about Dante. Thanks for your effort; the quality is clear.
I absolutely love the series. Keep up the good work.
I like your cozy office, it looks alot like mine 😊 I just added a solid brass Corinthian helmet with a huge crest to the shelf. I sit there for hours wearing it while watching scary ghost videos LOL
Note that the paolo and Francesca affair brings us back to north France (beyond her name, arguably) and Britain. The pair got together also due to a chivalric romance book about King Arthur, Lancelot and Guinevere (they see themselves as Lancelot and Guinevere of course), and the book itself is called by Francesca "Galeotto" - "Galehaut" which in the Breton Cycle favors Lancelot and Guinevere.
"Galeotto fu 'l libro e chi lo scrisse"
I wonder if Dante choosing to depict Francesca Da Rimini and Paolo Malatesta together in spite of their sin was a way of Dante expressing sympathy for lovers unable to be with one another. Given that he reunites with Beatrice upon entering Paradise, I feel like there could be a parallel between lovers encountering the divine within each other. I don’t know whether Dante ascribed to the idea that love, even when misapplied and sinful, cannot be totally evil (as obviously love comes from God), and that to separate sinful lovers could be a sin in and of itself, but I got that impression. I could be totally wrong in that interpretation. But I always just found it weirdly wholesome and romantic that Dante allowed sinful lovers remain together in their torment.
One of my favorite edu-tainment RUclipsrs talking about one of my favorite books is already enough to make me smile......PLUS Cinzia is red.....oh my....😳
The lovely red dress, and the fallen strap.... OK, I'm doomed now too. HA HA
❣️❣️ Lovely Lady of the Library in a lovely rose red dress.
Loving this series.
The best depiction I've seen of lust as an actual place was in "dead boy detectives" - I won't spoil it if anyone hasn't seen it, but the series is quite good.
It definitely waz but try Fullmetal Alchemist 🔥
Thanks for this fascinating video Cinzia!
I’ve been loving this series! I had to read Dante’s Inferno for school several years back, and it just never made much sense to me. This series has given so much more historical context, love it!!
Wonderful as usual! ♥️
9:20 cinzia!! 🤭 you're so witty, and I love this top/dress as well
“It’s actually quite gruesome, so…” pause, gets snack, okay *play
have you ever listened to the 2008 musical on the Divine Comedy made by Marco Frisina. Very beautiful, unfortunately in Italy there is not much culture and love for musicals in general and it has never been remade. But on RUclips you can find all the songs in CD version. Francesca's aria is one of the most beautiful.
Yay, Cassandra video! How exciting! 💕 I’m totally loving these Dante videos, thank you so much for making them. 💕
Do you notice how almost all the characters from Greek Mythology are "real" in the story, but the characters of the Arthurian Cycle are fictional?
It's unfortunate that so many people throughout history have tried to qualify and quantify love as a singular absolute thing. Love with reason is permissible and anything else is lust, but reason has shades of subjectivity. I would like to think if Dante was alive today he'd see the logic in there not being solely one form love and maybe even acknowledging that lust could be valid at times. And if nothing else I think he would say that "rubby pumpy" is a fantastic innuendo.
This series is great. This episode is gold! Cinzia is smart, interesting and so entertaining in all the best ways! Thank you for another brilliant video Cinzia!
Cool video, never thought this deeply about the individual circles like this
Excellent video Cinzia. I love your enthusiasm and the depth of your research. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
I just love cinzia 💜
I have to support this series because it's absolutely amazing so here is a comment for the algorithm❤️
0:19...MMmmmmmm, that was very deftly executed...
Guess I'm going to the Second Circle of Hell!
I am loving these videos. I don't see many covering this.
Just wanted to say thank you so much for this series on Dante, it's something I've circled around for awhile yet never sat down and read through it as much as I would like to.
I also wanted to comment on your episode about three months back where you said your channel was dying due to RUclips's algorithm and that you felt it was your fault somehow that you couldn't dither with it to make more viewers find you.
It is absolutely not your fault. It is entirely the fault of RUclips and it's employees constantly trying to re-invent the wheel and by doing so making it much harder on content creators such as yourself and viewers such as myself who are constantly distracted by new creators that we have to purposely filter out even though it might be initially interesting yet taking us away from more important creators such as yourself. Like you I also have ADHD and also Autism Spectrum Disorder. Just prior to watching that episode I was watching another channel where the host was wearing a t-shirt I thought was relevant 'Let me overthink this'.
I used to overthink things far too much and it would drive me up the wall, what could I have done differently here, there, everywhere. In the end it's the fault of the condition I have and that you have and that millions of others have.
I have been watching your content for over three years now and when I found your channel I was going through an especially dark time. Since then I've seen that you have also had your difficulties in life and have always cheered you on as I am sure so many others have too.
I hope since you made that episode three months ago that things have improved for you and continue to improve and that, like me, you can take all of that negative feedback you receive and toss it in the bin where it belongs. You are a wonderful and interesting person Cinzia and with your content have made so many happy and opened up interests in ancient literature and history that others might have never discovered. You are a bright shining beacon for us. Never let that light go out. Now for a confession. This is how important it was for me to write this. My cat is on my desk so I have to balance my keyboard on my lap as I type this. She is quietly napping away and I suppose I could pick her up and put her on the chair next to me and she would return to sleep but she looks so peaceful and typing while the keyboard is balanced on my knees isn't too bad I guess. . . Anyway, hope all is well with you and that you've gamed RUclips's stupid algorithm so it returns those subscribers who've been pulled away by too many distractions. Best Wishes, Michael
What a fine essay on Dante and the Second Circle of Hell! Thank you for a fun and illuminating video.
Love this stuff!
I really appreciate and enjoy this content 😁 thank you so much for your hard work
Loving this series!!
"Love makes you irrational? Sounds like a skill issue, git gud skrub." Dante Aligheri, probably
Brainwaves almost identical 2 insanity so it make purfikt cents
Excellent series! ❤ I'm loving it!
About Mark Anthony's absence from the Second Circle: he is more greedy than lustful, don't you think? I mean, putting Cleopatra in this circle - because of misogynistic reasoning from Dante's context - makes sense, but Mark Anthony is more wrathful and even more greedy, then one can make the case for his placement outside the Second Circle, he practiced other kinds of sin more intensely.
Bravo very well done it keeps me wanting!!!🌹
Spectacular episode. One of my favorites so far. The snake tail is also interesting to me... I thought the same about the Genesis imagery. It's a fascinating addition.
Brilliant research and lively telling. Well done (kudos)!
Great video!
Loving this series! It reminds me of when I used to study Dante in high school
Love from Italy ❤
I love this series! What an excellent insight on the difference of lust vs love!
I've been following your channel for some time, but I must admit you have been particularly fire lately! Great work! 🔥
Fr
great job, i enjoyed your detailed analysis and perspective.
From how you described Minos' beastial" curse, the snakes could be a artistic depliction of that through making him in the th Underwould a Chimra.
This continues to be fascinating. I saw a beautiful copy of Dante's Inferno at a book store. I might have to pick it up. Thank you for a greatly informative and entertaining video!
Huh, wasn't expecting the reference to the Dante's Inferno video game in here haha
Topic: lust. Dressed for the occasion? ✅red dress, bright red lipstick to excite the passions. Top marks😆
Don’t be a creep
After seeing Cinzia in that dress, I'm definitely going to the second circle
Poor Minos. Haunted by cows, and now mostly remembered by appending a cow to his name. Even having a judgy serpent for a tail doesn't outweigh the minotaur in our collective consciousness. But at least he tried.
FTA
I think you could read a 5.0 v8 service manual and I’d still be enthralled
@0:15 - a fantastic intro into Lust
Fascinated by all the mythological references 😍
Thanks for another great video!
We go wherever the Grace is taking us, happily.
Beautiful description of love
Been binge watching your videos and am always excited to hear your perspectives and your commentary and summary of these stories. I've not read a lot of these older stories, like Dante's work, in a long time so it is fascinating to not only have a recap but background information as well as extra facts to help better understand the views in which he was writing or what was going on at that time. Very good stuff.
Your content is great! So glad I found your channel! Thank you for what you do! ❤
As an astrologer, my immediate thought on the snakes/scorpios was "how appropriate juxtaposed with the cows!" Scorpio rules snakes and scorpions, and is opposite Taurus, the cow, its polarity. Both are on an axis concerned with our valuation by others. Taurus, ruled by Venus, the 2nd sign, represents resources, skills, and gifts. Scorpio, ruled by Mars/Pluto, the 8th sign, represents shared resources, inheritance, intimacy, and occult knowledge. 🤔☺️♏️♉️✨️
I could listen to her talk about history for ages lol it’s like asmr and interesting at the same time.
Fabulous content! I'm so looking forward to the next installment.
Awesome!!!
Well timed indeed
Well-done, dear lady. Many thanks. -- W
Good stuff.
Damn, I'm on The List for A LOT of Sins. And Boy, were they FUN.
Wonderful as always!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!, LOVE YOUR DANTE'S SERIES. =)
Awesome video and u look stunning! Can't wait for the next ones
Loving this series. Thank you.
Just rewatching this series, love your work ^_^
You look marvelous in the red dress
Lol also did not expect you to bring up the video game version
You really make me laugh and teach me a lot
The Sistine chapel thing I think is just using the snake as a metaphor of his phallic virility coming from witch craft (aka Lucifer possessed Eve's desire for lust in the original form of a serpent convincing her) and the serpent climbs Minos' body like a tree, so this is the part of the process of the merging between Christian and Pagan philology and art that happened after the Renaissance merging of the two. It's also a devil's tail, so the snake symbolizes the devil working through humanity's loins and lust as poisonous to them, aka the venom biting into him, which causes the devils standing around him to become perverted in contortions of painful and pleasurable ecstasy.
I was taught that it was an Easter Egg, with Minos painted with the face of one of Michaelangelo's critics.
Sistine = sxx. Don't believe me. Check tha etymology
Thank you for doing this series. It's wonderful!
You make me wish i was a magic book that when read, makes a sad reader happy
i like this series !!!!!!!
IIRC Francesca also says that , even if she is hell because of it, she still wants Paolo and basically regrets nothing. And Dante is also sympathetic to them. Amor c'ha nullo amato...
Fascinating
Did not expect that I would enjoy this as much as I did. So Dante's lust is full of Dark Eldar? I kinda glossed this and Gluttony over when I read with my brother a few years ago. Very interested to see Gluttony now as well.
Thanks for the share sister 🌹 …… dang it , this ain’t time for romance and sentimentalism . Courtly love seems to be preferred . What ever is motive for Dante as he says , things are vailed ( …… I believe it’s his words ) I do like listening to your work and appreciate you .
Take care ✝️
Minor cavil?..... Ca-val-can-te.....not Cal-va-can-te... I believe. Brilliant, animated presentation of complicated material!
"Timely.". 😂❤
You look gorgeous in that shade of red, my goodness!
PS: I don't know if not putting Marc Anthony in the 2nd circle would be a "favor" to Romans.... He's (unless I remember badly, AND COULD BE that my memory failed) not mentioned at all... like, he's nowhere... And being nowhere, could mean that Dante simply just put him in the Canto III O.O
"... raised being told about the Beatles..." this boomer explodes with laughter imagining y'all young 'uns being fascinated with the medieval tales of John, Paul, George and RIngo! (okay grandpa, calm down, we get it ... we've heard your Beatles stories a dozen times already...)
Lust has always been my idea of true love. Dante was a prude. The red dress stimulates my true love. Im a dog i know. Dog among men, man among dogs. Great video insights as always ❤
Read a great comic showing Dante’s nferno was very accurate to the book.
Wafts fan in front of face as he becomes overheated for unknown reasons
YESSuh!
Lust, is the reason why I am here.
Okay. So I better get my power-armor, good ol' double barrel and chainsaw ready...😂 EDIT: Also "Heiligs' Blechle!"😉
spicy episode, best episode lol
The best.
It looks like most of us are going to hell. 😅
You look lovely and fab video as always ^_^