Frankel - Where it all began. His first race Newmarket Maiden
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2020
- I was at Catterick Racecourse one evening having a fairly poor time when I decided to go into the on course bookmakers to see what was running elsewhere. I noticed a Newmarkey maiden upcoming and a Henry Cecils unraced Colt priced at 7/4 there was a lot of hype about it. so I lumped on well the rest was history I guess
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The beginning of a monstrous beast! The likes of which we will never see again. Frankel basically got me into racing, now seeing his sons and daughters win group 1 races is incredible. Long live the king 👑
You saw better a few years later. Sea the stars was far far superior
it will be seen again, like the greats of the past.
@@911LAMBER Sea The Stars ran a couple of years before Frankel.
You cannot possibly make such a sweeping statement. How can you know that there will not be other horses in the future who will be as good or even better than Frankel?
The backers of Nathaniel came up against the one horse in history that was never going to finish second to anything
The great Ribot was never beaten in 16 races, and there have been many others who remained unbeaten throughout their racing careers.
Frankel should be called second to none end of story
FACTS
I have been racing for over sixty years and I can tell you one of the best horses I ever saw the race he won at York put the seal on it for me.
Missed the kick on shitty ground against Cirrus des Aigles. Yeah Queally tried real hard to get him beat that day 😅
100% agree , cirus was a muti group 1 winner and frankel beat him honourably
My dad and grandad used to go on about these type of horses , Nijinsky, red rum , desert orchid and so forth, I knew exactly what they meant the day I seen Frankle absolutely destroy the best the world could fling at him,and he did so with ease !! we are so lucky to see probably the best horse of all time in our lifetime ., thank you FRANKEL 🙏. Rip Henry 🙏
@@200degrees. You cannot possibly claim that Frankel, or any other horse for that matter, was probably the best of all time. For your ridiculous claim to be true Frankel would have had to have raced against ALL the other great horses of history and beaten them which, of course, is simply not possible.
Best flat horse ice ever seen...n also glad Henry Cecil trained it.... 🙏
Best flat horse ice ever seen?
Gamble of the race Nathaniel.
I wonder what connections of Nathaniel thought when frankel came along side 🤣🤣
Frankel and Nathaniel (2nd) raced on debut, goin’ full circle Nathaniel raced Frankel on his final G1 win the Qipco Champion Stakes at Ascot comin’ 3rd beaten 4 1/4 lengths, great story🐴🔥
I had no idea i was watching the dawn of a truly great racehorse.
In all reality, he put Nathaniel to bed in the end. Toyed with a pretty decent horse. Thought he’d do better than he has done as a sire so far though, maybe as he did, they improve a bit with age or the next crop.
Frankel however, still the best Miler I ever seen on grass no doubt.
Nathaniel, a very good horse. But so was Farhh, Canford Cliffs, St Nicholas Abbey and Cirrus Des Aigles. All multiple Group winners yet none of them could shine whilst on track with the mighty Frankel. He’s half beast half machine..
On his day shady mouse would beat them all
@@cpdoody76 yeah, no he wouldn’t.
Nothing beats Frankel on turf between 7f-10f on his day, no matter the ground.
They are ok Group winners but definitely nothing special.
None of them finish in the top 8 Dancing Braves Arc. Frankels Owners bottled going to the Arc. With the dross he had to beat it makes you wonder.
None of them get within 10 lengths of Roberto when he beat Brigadier Gerard in the York International.
None of them get close to El Gran Senor or Chief Singer in his 2000 Guineas and that includes Frankel.
Frankel beat nothing special.
I think Frankel beats Dancing Brave, but nobody beats El Gran Senor at a mile except maybe Brigadier Gerard
@@JuiCeh93
El Gran Senor at a mile as a 3yo. I think he beats him easy. Chief Singer finished 2nd to EGS in the 2000 G . look up Chief Singers in the James Palace performance.
Frankel never raced a horse like Chief Singer.
What a maiden , nathaniel and genius beast , both group 1 winners in their own right , quealy just let his hand off the choke for a few seconds , what a horse 👌
Sir Henry knew he had a class animal on his hands with Frankel
Frankel and Henry WHAT A HORSE WHAT A MAN JUST CLASS
Great race. When you consider Nathanial went on to win a King George and a Eclispe tells you how good this performace was by Frankel. This was probably the hardest race Frankel ever had or should I say Nathaniel was the only horse to really eyeball Frankel and make him work and even then I still thought Frankel always had him covered.
They met in Frankel's first and last race. Nathaniel accquited himself extremely well in both.
@Keith Essien, It's fair to say that Frankel & Nathaniel ended up being the real meat and potatoes that came out of this Newmarket maiden. But lest we forget, also in the field that day lining up for this race was future Ascot Gold Cup winner & Sagaro Stakes winner (Colour Vision), who beat Opinion Poll in the Ascot Gold Cup and Red Cadeaux in the Sagaro Stakes and future Sandown Classic Trial winner(Genius Beast).
What a Superb First run . Never knew he’d had a race .
Nathaniel great stallion father of Enable Frankel also great stallion.
An amazing horse and I think we knew it from the start.
What a name for a great horse.FRANKEL..a beast
'the well backed Nathaniel'... No wonder. King George winner and absolutely top class horse. I'll bet connections couldn't believe him getting beat!
Easily the best maiden of all time
7 to 4 still a lovely price when you look back
Какой удивительно сильный и быстрый Френкель!!!Приятно смотреть,как в любой скачке он легко всех обгоняет!Славный конь!
The birth of a legend
"There's not a lot left, or is there..? Frankel is going away, or is he..?" 😂
Thomo can't commentate for shit bless him
@@goose1056 Funny though. :-)
Brilliant!
For a moment there, I thought I was watching a Monty Python skit!
Trevor would've been like "nothing but a hand ride on Frankel" the other Jockey was asking his horse for his life...
great great horse and what a lovley man henry cecil was rip x
Great debut the second Nathaniel proved to be no slouch!
Frankel beat 25 separate group 1 winners in his career who between them won over 71 group 1s... and this is the coolest he ever was to defeat
He was the best I have seen! Dancing brave was the best I had seen before Frankel 🐴
Colour Vision too, second to last in this maiden and then went on to win the Ascot Gold Cup.
Enable's dad.
Adrian Hudson the mighty grey. Frankie got me a good win in a listed race at Kempton prior to his big win. Always a top animal in my eyes and didn’t even realise he was in this maiden. 👍
Best flat horse I’ve ever seen
A true champion
There is a saying that states Give Jack his Jacket meaning give credit to where credit is due in the case of Frankel give Frankel his Jacket the greatest of all time
That can NEVER be proven!
@@kurman4749 is it a mathematical problem that needs to be proven ?
Frankel proved he was frank about winning his races frankly therefore there were no more for Frankel to prove end of story
Remember it well and we all knew. The 7/4 was as big as he got that day and I foolishly got stuck in at 11/8 having heard all about him Nathaniel was of course a solid G1 performer
7/4 what a price😮, on the best horse Henry ever trained
The 3rd best horse I’ve seen behind Nijinsky and Sea The Stars
Beats Nathaniel hands heels it’s like the whole tv crew commentators etc had been watching him at home with the anticipation in there voice
And so it all began.....the mighty Frankel
“There’s not a lot left or is there, he’s going to win or is he?” Desperate commentary as usual from Tommo 😂
Worst racing commentater ever
Ha ha he could always read a race that lad...
How does that bloke gets paid?? Absolute shambles of a commentator
@@stevejames8070 have a go Steve
Yeah, Tommo is the worst ever. The amount of times I’ve heard his say “Oh that’s close” in photo finishes. Talk about stating the obvious 😀
City of troy here he comes
7-4! Think thats the biggest price hes ever been
Saw him win queen anne at royal asvot 1st race of meeting
Only race i was interesting in
Ajd the guinnees win was semsational
After watching flat racing very closely over the past few years i can understand why Quaelly was entrusted with Frankel & not any of the bigger name jockeys of the time.
can you maybe explain?
Because he was Cecils stable jockey, Dan Brown wont be writing any books about the mystery.
@@theLowestPointInMyLife ah come on Tom. That means nothing.
@@felixlieter1429 I don't remember any instance of queally not riding abdullahs horses for Cecil at the time, he was stable jockey, it's as simple as that
Very lucky jockey to get this horse
Colour vision, Nathaniel and Frankel, has there ever been a higher class maiden?
Genius Beast won a Group3 Classic trial a few months later too
Anyone remember the Frankel's owner ???? Shiekh Abdullah ❤🎉 He owns so many great champion race horse 🏇 for all of us to enjoy horse racing ❤ RIP Legendary Man ❤ Insha'Allah 🎉❤🎉😢
Great horse
amazing horse
I see on this page the mare Winx 33 straight and world record grp 1's .She s Australien
How did he get on
When they say legend that's what Frankel was a true legend
Amazing I always backed him when it was financially viable... Sometimes his prices were silly.. Pleasure to watch
@Joseph Elliott well done
An honour to watch.
We love Kerm Din owner of Pakistan Star 💖😇❤
Amazing
Simply the greatest
In your opinion, which you cannot prove.
Breeding mate, I seen Frankel and knew he was a superstar,
The debut of a legend and effing Tommo made the call. How did he ever get paid for commentary
it's crazy if you asked me after watching his first race he will turn into a power house i would have laughed at you frankel just about got the win
My friend said it to me thw week after l think l seen a superstar last week frankle he actually backed him how right he was
Frankel beat everything put in front of him easily .Dancing Brave was a wonder horse but I don t think he would have beat Frankel.
nothing in the history of the sport would have
That is something you will never know, will you?
@@edwardcooper3948 And how do you propose to prove your assertion?
Frankel wasn't even trying ,just the norm lol
We've seen the best ever
Not for me ! Dancing Brave would have been to much for him over a mile & 10f the calibre of horse Frankie beat was not in the same class as the ones Dancing Brave beat week in week out ! Zoffany wouldn’t have got within 10 lengths of Dancing Brave !
@@deanos72
This debate will go on forever my friend and I'm in the Frankel camp
@@patricksmith3432 watch the the 86 Arc ! At the furlong pole , Dancing Brave isn’t in the picture & there is 7 group 1 winners in front him & he wins going way by three lengths! Just take that in ! Frankel never done anything close to that ! I’m a massive Frankle fan but he’s not in my top 3 of all time
@@deanos72
Respect watch ascot queen Elizabeth 11 length win second DAYLIGHT
@@patricksmith3432 I don’t understand! ? 7 group 1 winners , the English & French derby winners & he wasn’t in the picture , but wins going away by three lengths! Show me a race where Frankel even run against opposition like that !
Only a litlle bit asking on the end, frankel wellicht done boy 😊❤ 3:02
Derek Thompson, what a guy.
Jockey rode to instructions and rarely lost a race he should have won. Great memories.
He didn't lose a race mate. You could have rode Frankel. Tom Queally has lived off it since. Arm chair ride.
Frankels pulling away or is he ?
Awful commentary as usual from tommo, i'm suprised he didn't call "photo that's a photo, i'll leave that one to the judge.
2 best horses
I think Frankel would of won The Derby if they ran him in it.
Nathaniel was a good horse
Nathaniel must have been a decent horse too.
Nathaniel was great in his own right, won Group 1s and sired the powerhouse mare Enable.
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Goat
Hands and hells for the jockey so easy
"Hells"?
Ha vinto a mani basse.
I’ve seen weaker group 1s than that maiden
Got fucking soaked that day
imagine being on nathaniel youd have had your house on him
Pity he couldn't travel
Thanks. I don’t recall connections ever asking him again to race on anything like as soft?
I loved Frankel , but that nagging doubt for the connections not to have run him over 1 mile 4 furlongs is the only stain on his copy book ! All through his pedigree would have been middle distance relatives. How can you say he's the best ever when he never ran in a Derby or an Arc over the distance ...Its the biggest cock up in racing history for me !
The benchmark of all the great champions has been winning one, or both, of the recognized championship races... the Epsom Derby or the Arc. As brilliant as Frankel and Brigadier Gerard undoubtedly were, their 2000 Guineas wins do not carry the same prestige as a Derby or Arc success.
@@kurman4749 That's just your opinion which means zilch.
What price was he
7-4....biggest he ever was of course
@@wayneeboiii122 thanks for that
$2.70 in decimal odds
@@stephenrichardson2969 so 7-4 like i told him a week ago then yeah haha
@@wayneeboiii122 I realise you said that a week ago I put the odds in decimal as downunder we stopped using fraction odds a long time ago so it’s for the benefit of anyone who read your comment on the odds could relate to decimal.
Anyway thanks for putting the odds he jumped at as I was interested to know.
ps
The 7-4 meant nothing to me but thanks to google I got the conversion.
Thommo's commentary is classic 😂
frankels won or has he...um yep i think he has....only just though...or was it .....brough did frankel win?...yes thommo hands and heels...oh i thought he did...bless him...
The obligatory rubbish commentary from Tommo..What a superstar Frankel was & Nathaniel was top class too, bet they couldn’t believe they got beat.😀
He just is an embarrassment, total drivel.
I'm just shocked that he didn't say that something was "coming with a good looking run". The man is a balloon.
Worst racing commentator ever
Not a lot left 😂
Frankel - was that one with 4 legs?
Didn't even touch him
the camera poor
Not exactly an armchair ride but then again, it was his first race.
Pretty sure Nathaniel won a king George...
Colour vision won a gold cup...
A Pretty hot maiden I reckon!!
Won a King George and sired the only 3x King George winner Enable in his first crop. Very classy maiden indeed.
Pretty hot maiden is almost an understatement given the careers of the first two. Nathaniel was a star, and Frankel was a generational talent.
No shit 😂
Cornelius Lysaght said it best. Secretariat would beat Frankel and he is very well respected in England
The amount of aftertiming here is hilarious.
No Derby or Arc... Not the best.
What nonsense!
How's it nonsense ?.It's an opinion ...The best races tend to be run over slightly longer distances that's why I have this view.
Tommo, the drama queen of commentators.
Still think Brigadier Gerard would have beaten him with level weights
John Ward.
No chance.
John ward i disagree u cant say that.different eras conditions etc.lets b blessed with a brilliant horse.frankel was unbeaten b.gerard got beat.i preferred mill reef but b.g had beaten him.its pie in the sky.frankel rated better in timeform than b.g so lets say all brilliant horses
Zafonic. Now Zafonic over a mile could possibly have beaten them all.
It is pure hypothesis though of course, we will never know as horses aren't machines.
Err nah
Said many times on here,, comments on other horses,,eras,, Frankel was a one off freak of nature,,massive stride,,combined with a ridiculously high cruising speed,,,I'm 48yrs old and been betting 33 years ,,never saw anything even close to him,,,, just my opinion 😏
Frankel was never ever whipped on the bit every race freak of a horse 🐴
otherwise tremendous debut just a real tragedy who was calling the race one of the worst in the biz the dreaded tommo ghastly , that soiled it ....who's gunna get there, that's one for the judge, in the yella colours
Typical Thommo commentary ..its like hes watching another race to us
He and that other chav Tim Peters I cannot abide.
The owners of nathaniel thot there horse was a cert that day
I recon Zafonic would do him over a mile
If anyone could.... I just think back to Zafonic’s 2000 Guineas. So much guts and class. Runs through the line and sticks his neck out like a proper winner. It’s hard to say. You have to also appreciate how impressive Frankels Guineas looked, I know he didn’t run against anything near his quality but he could have won running backwards. His galloping style and way he ate the ground makes him almost impossible to get past over a mile. Would love to hear that with See The Stars, Kingman and Camelot. What a Guineas that would be!
@@phobsdsr4326 ZAFONIC OPPOSITION FAR BETTER!!!!
Peter Steward I’m only 38 so was a kid at the time but have watched it back a good few times and there’s no doubting the opposition back then we’re solid in comparison to Frankels Guineas.
@@phobsdsr4326 far better opposition
@@BertSmithLondon 😂
Derek Thomson? There is not a lot left? Fuckin trumpet.
Outside of my own family of I could bring back two people from heaven it would bill shankly and sir henry cecil, in my opinion when those 2 great men died, there sport died eith them !
worst commentator ever and hes still in a job how do these people get away with it
He's a mason
Derek Thompson... worst ever commentator!! "Who's gonna get there?"
Anyway, imagine having a huge gamble on the horse Nathaniel, beating the rest of the field by 6 lengths but still losing to an unknown horse... the unknown horse Frankel turned out pretty damned good!!
Selkirk was a better miler- FACT
So was Gordon Pirie FACT
You have lost your bloody mind,smh
@@alanchalkley565 nope
@@lagosfury5142 dope!