Why are the children living with his parents? That means he still has potential access to the children whose mother he killed. He should never be allowed out of prison.
Her parents were dead. Her parents were unable to take care of the children. Her parents didn't want to. Her parents have criminal records. There is a million reasons.
@@carpediem4512Since when is a law degree required to be appalled at a murderer receiving a lenient sentence? We're allowed to have opinions about judicial outcomes and vote judges and legislators in and out of office accordingly.
@@carpediem4512 You don't need a lw degrwe to know bs when you see it.13 years for murdering your wife.And HIS parents have custody of the kids & their survival benefits. Wonder how much of it they send to him?
@@morganapendragon6959 absolutely not but it saves the state a buttload of money since there won’t be a trial. Pleading no contest is not an admission of guilt, it’s basically just saying that you think if a jury heard the evidence they’d find you guilty so there’s no point in trying to fight it. Trials cost millions of dollars
@@SaraBoBara5591 I agree with you. I suspected my husband was having an affair. He likes money. I became aware of a man murdering his wife to avoid paying her maintenance. I sat down with hubby that night. I told him I thought he had lost interest in our marriage. I told him I would rather be single than being in an unrequited relationship. I reminded him that my income was more than enough to support me, so he shouldn't worry about leaving. He was visually flabbergasted. Next evening he came home with flowers and a gift. I just bided my time before filing to divorce him.
It really pisses me off when I hear the kids are living with the murderers family instead of the victims family. This happens over and over and the victims family is trying to see kids or going to court for rights etc.
Agree totally.. no way should the kiddies be with his family. Obviously because of their MONEY and standing in the community. Even the Policy Officer at the end sucking up by dumbing down the murder by stating he wasn’t inherently evil!!! FTW….
@tyrellanderson4722 Yes. The family of the victim were able to take care of them and have been trying to see them. They only went to the murderers family because he is the only parent alive, so he gets to choose. That is ridiculous. The mother is dead by his hands. He should not get that right. It also happens when the mom kills the dad. It is an equal ridiculous stance. No family should have their son/daughter murdered at the hands of 1 parent as well as loose their grandkids. They didn't do anything either to deserve this. And yes, if his parents are keeping the kids from the other grandparents, they are to blame. Think of Dan Markel and the addelsons. Same thing.
I was a nannie at 19 until the children were school aged. I was not ever approached by my bosses husband. He always honored his wife in every sense of the word. They are still the happiest couple i have hadthe pleasure of being close too.
An insult to the family. And yet so many people think men get harsher prison sentences than women for similar crimes. It should have been 1st degree premeditated murder as he already had the date set for the replacement wife to move in.
In my opinion, the cops are only saying that because she was overweight and an alcoholic, so they’re making excuses for him. also, he’s a well-connected man and they probably gave him a lighter sentence as a favor.
I'm utterly aghast Detective Schneider believes Tim wasn't an inherently evil person - he just got overwhelmed juggling a wife and a mistress. Tell me you're afraid of pissing off Tim's "reputable connections" in the town you work in without telling me you're afraid of pissing them off. A spade is a spade - this was so calculated and evil, and a very good wife was murdered. No wonder she drank
Detective Schneider has no clue about justice and definitely ignorant on what is pre-planned murder! Despite the diary details and plans for Las Vegas Schneider and his confession fuddle head Schneider is busy giving Tim a 'Good boy!' certificate. Time for a change of job, along with the biased judge that gave a first degree murderer just 13 years!
Yeah, poor guy was so overwhelmed cheating on his wife, faking a future divorce, keeping some 20 year old bimbo twit happy, and plotting a murder. Nothing evil about that. Give me a break.
What kind of nonsense is this: he's not an evil person by nature, but had no choice than to kill his wife. God forbid his non-evil nature nudge him to get rid of his girlfriend. Ridiculous!
I haven't finished watching the entire video...pls don't tell me the nanny gets away with it...she is just as guilty as of her note book 📖📚 notes weren't enough proof they planned it together 😮
13 Years & we wonder why this is happening everyday in our country !!! We lock up non violent people trying to provide for there family longer then this. The way they did this woman should have been nothing under life . Sad & the system fail her if ur killed u expect the very community your serve everyday to have ur back & fight for u They let her down , she was let down by the very people she trust & then let down by the system community she serve !!! SAD
Sometimes if they went to court, it depends on the states laws about child custody when one parent passes away. In Tx, the children go to the surviving parent or the surviving grandparents of the children. The grandparents can also go to family court for grandparents rights and get visitation or maybe joint custody if both parents are deceased
At 5’2 and 120 pounds, I’d have to perform an Olympic break-dancing move to get my head under the water of a typical shower tub. No way she could get into that position accidentally.
Dude should’ve thought ahead and did a bathroom remodel and installed a nice, big jacuzzi tub 6 months prior. It isn’t hard to get away with it, people are just lazy.
She might of tempted him to cheat (and that’s a big might) but everything else was on him. Why is she the only evil one when he did the murder? Like this was a dumb comment
The parents are not responsible for their son's actions and are probably better suited to provide for the kids. The kids can still visit their other grandparents.
@@washingtonm654 Parents should always be responsible for the crimes of their children! Many breed like flies and don't take the time to teach their children right and wrong and to be good people with integrity, loyalty and compassion. If parents were given a suitable sentence for the crimes of their children, more parents will rush to be responsible to 'educate' their children to prevent crime, not just be careless, irresponsible and shameless parents!!!
He is an adult. His parents are not at fault. Let’s put responsibility on the person who did this and stop acting like parents carry all blame through life. Get real
@@LessaMeieam he got to be an adult of this terrible variety because his dumbo parents had no time to teach him, though they had him from the size of dot. They only had time to 'make' babies but not educate them into responsible citizens. Due to many not putting any blame on parents, they keep producing without responsibility or shame when their children turn out to be harmful and irresponsible. The world would be better if parents did a better job!
@@steverolefson4725 In your wildest fantasies…keep dreaming! 😝👌 Because in real life it’s a deadly NIGHTMARE and you go to prison. I suppose that fantasies in prison are real too for some!!! 😳
@@catherinewilke5583who screwed your husband when they should have been babysitting your kid. It was the fact that she was half her size and age and they probably didn’t have a solid sex life to begin with. You can have a nanny just be sexually satisfied in your marriage first.
Why is there always this forgiveness for a cheating husband? The police officer said he didn't think Tim was an evil person, but he was just at his "wits end" juggling his wife and girlfriend. How about telling his wife he's in love with someone else and wants a divorce? He wouldn't do that because he didn't want his wife to have any right to take half their assets and custody of their children. It always comes down to greed.
Jamie is probably sizing up the next married man with kids so PLEASE mommas watch out for her shes as bad as the man who killed his wife the mother of his children
You get 10 years for a murder in Minnesota and he got 13 in Michigan he should be happy he doesn’t live in Florida or Texas or anywhere down south he would’ve got life 🤣
In Texas if you kill one of us, we kill you back. It is called Capitol Punishment. Critics claim that it doesn’t deter crime. I beg to differ. They will never reoffend.
How were they going to run off to Vegas to get married if Lee Ann was alive ? Divorce takes a minimum of 6 months. Jamie's diaries should be left to a jury to decide her fate
@@MargaretCho-pt3ngnot if you have a solid relationship and good sex life. No one chests if they’re satisfied. Thats the issue it seems. The girl was half her size and age. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
That was good advice she did give her by not agreeing with having another woman live in her marital home. That is your castle, you are the only queen that belongs there!!! You will regret it if you do move in another woman!
People! Because an advice is coming from the church or a pastor doesn't mean its right... they're also human...and they can be wrong.may leann rest peacefully 🕊️💐💔
I will never understand how anyone that loved someone then they’re feelings changed so they kill the one they no longer love? Just tell her/him you want a divorce. You don’t have to kill them. Like wth is wrong with people. I’ve never stayed in a relationship that I was no longer happy in. Grow up
OUTRAGEOUS SENTENCE 13.5 years for murdering her in the most undignified way, naked and then your husband having no care for you at all and sitting on you until you drown. Where is her justice. Plus his parents are bringing up the little kiddies, who knows what stories they are spinning to those little ones. He will be able to have 20 odd years with them!!! No wonder there are so many murders happening when you can get away with a sentence as light as that. The nanny sounded unmoved by it and thinks she had the right to move in. She was clear.y involved with orchestrating the murder. Take a life and get life.
Years ago my wife was pregnant, she was caring for three year old twins and we were moving. She needed help. I told her to hire whoever she wanted to so long as the twins liked her. She hired a very nice young lady, very hard working, with a terrible skin condition and red rash/pimples covering her face. Everyone was happy.
I thought you were gonna say ..she was attractive...she made a move on me but you pushed her away and fired her. Now you have an old granny as your nanny lol.. that wld have been more interesting... So let me ask you..had she not had pimples and a rash looking face wld u of cheated??
You can get the divorce paperwork online for 200$, fill them out, go to courthouse, and get court date, represent yourself for free and get a divorce decree 60 days later. Don't let ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY keep you in a horrible marriage that could potentially turn deadly. Just get divorced, move on, and STAY ALIVE!
I have to say, this guy wants to file the divorce first, then the wife didn’t want to divorce him. That’s a lesson to learn because when a guy wants to divorce, you better agree. Men will turn very violent once he feels there’s blocks on the road to divorcing.
Alcohol doesn't mess you up that much... sometimes. I have been blackout drunk and passed out and sometime later woke up to go pee.. .. That's not always the case but sometimes....
Jamie and Tim has given me the perfect crime idea to plot. Now all I need to do is articulate my entire plot on leaflets and hide them in plan sight; Genius! WTF is wrong with people. Being the surviving spouse everyone has to know by now the cops are coming for your ass first & yet you write it all down and store the writings in your locker. A counsel man, husband, parishioner, & father 😢
You lose them how you got them…. In other words when someone marries their mistress they’re just leaving a vacancy. Unfortunately I’ve had 2 abusive marriages, cheated on both times, it’s a terrible feeling.
This should have been a 1st degree murder case. According to Hathaway's testimony, he named December 29th, the day of the murder, as the day and thereafter he and Hathoway would be living together without his wife. Shannon planned the murder and only received 13 years in prison. What a deal!
you understand the total population of the USA you understand how many divorces are filed every year do you understand how many murders happen? It’s normal that out of a few millions, there is an idiot
P.S.---MURDER IS THE DEFINITION OF EVIL BY NATURE!!!! AND NO ADULT ACCIDENTALLY drowns in a bath tub, even when intoxicated. Its impossible. I fell asleep in tub once, the minute water entered my nose i was up and on my feet!!!
Yeah, some 20 year old didn't "make him" kill his wife. He chose to climb into her pants then rid himself of the wife. If he already considered the nanny to be a second mother, he wasn't going to accept joint custody. The whole "I meant to divorce her" is bs IMO. They both plotted that poor woman's murder and should have been locked up for life.
Thankfully only a certain type of person is capable of being a cheater. They could break up or divorce but their lack of heart, a soul, empathy or interest in the well-being of others, means it doesnt cross their mind. A cheater is empty inside and so dont respect the agony and trauma they cause to their children and partner.
Second case- I believe the guy intended on killing her because he was a client and she would be able to identify him. He went there to rob and kill. She was an easy target, working alone at a cash in advance place. The detectives should of looked into recent clients. This guy was too calm. He knew she was the only one there and where cash was.
He had a great lawyer & received a walk in the park sentencing. He will probably play golf and be out of jail in time to marry this nanny. That is of course if she finds another dumb couple to play this game on. In this case both parents were extremely stupid to allow this witch to ruin their family 😢
Two possible motives: 1 - Pissed off husband who spends a LOT of money on a pro hitman, or 2 - Career criminal who has done jail time, honed his trade, learned he likes money, hates jail time, learns to leave no witnesses and thought he'd get a better payday. Also learned to stay calm, rehearse over and over at home. My money is on #2.
The guy knew where to look for cash, knew where the lock on the personnel door was, etc. He is a career criminal who has done decent jail time and doesn't wanna repeat the experience. I feel that he learned to use a silencer because a past experience (loud) caused cops to be called. Being in jail would've put him in contact with other criminals who could have hooked him up with silencers. This is a dude who honed his craft, did not target her specifically.
@@VagaBond-m6wtalking about the killer practiced being calm,that along with just became coldhearted coldblooded seared his conscience!!! And like you said,likes money,quick big payoff, doesn't want more prison!! And DEFINITELY learns skills,trades,ideas, equipment,new friends from previous prison jail time!! I've heard them brag about running businesses from prison, even have guards to help,and get contraband!! One said drugs,phones , sex is more free flowing in there than on the streets!! And one woman said "they usually always get prison time religion"!! It's great if they truly honestly become saved, accept God,and live it!! Just not an excuse,a front!!
Only 13 and half years for this man who murdered his wife? This is an Chris Watts story..cant believe he only got 13 years.. wow 😨😳 and his mistress walks free 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Why would you hire a nany that young anyways. You know yr husband is going to cheat . 13 yrs isnt enough but thats the justice system for you, you get more time for drugs.
That's bullshit if your husband cheats on you with a younger nanny he wasn't yours anyways and no not all men cheat with someone younger my aunt hired someone younger and her husband never cheated on her
@@Mimi-kf8ey If there is a s* attraction it's very hard for most men to stay in control. At least that's my understanding but I am not an expert of course.
@mistyl1987 or maybe some people actually have a moral compass, love, and respect for their partners. Your message is pathetic and speaks volumes about you, not in a good way.
"You don't invite another woman into your home!" Stop blaming victims for making perfectly normal decisions like getting help with children and supporting young people. It's the husband and the nanny that made the sinister choices. The mistake definitely was adopting the nanny, but even that doesn't justify murder.
No one ever thinks of how this effects the children that are left behind with the awful truths of what happened. Now, not only did their father kill their mother, but now they are parentless!
These days they have a high chance of getting caught but think about things back before the 70’s-80’s, it’s a good thing that technology has advanced to the point where it is a rare thing to get away with a crime
22:49 "he got coaxed - he was at his wits end and didn't know what else to do as far as juggling his wife and girlfriend" coaxed? Detective Mark Schneider explaining away a man snuffing out the human life of the mother of his children because he was "at his wits end" after not being able to keep it in his pants? most people when they are feeling at their wits end with a problem situation they go to therapy or talk to their minister. but I love how this cop is able to blame the women in this guys life - obviously the wife he wanted to get rid of was driving him nuts and the 20 year old had "coaxed" him into ending a life - he's not evil at all pppffft. wonder why we don't like cops?
Cops are very high in the DV statistics, and I’m sure this police officer is like every other male-protecting males because they’d do the same thing in that situation. He’d love to trade in his older, obese wife for a 20 year old and lose no money, no status in the community, and to get the sympathy of “poor widower who’s wife drown in the bathtub.”
That's terrible only 13yrs for taking his wife's life, I mean that was someone's mom, daughter, granddaughter, sister, Aunt, friend what it was urs! If it was ur loved one do u think 13yrs is enough time? Hell no it's not! I mean smdh! 🤬
That sentence is disgusting and reprehensible. It's an insult to the victim. People get more time for drug possession. He deserves life without parole.
Hey systematically and strategically planned for Leeann’s decline in her mental health a this biggest part of tat plan was to tell her about the affair, knowing what it would do to her so they could put each stage into effect. Just sick
Exploiting a much-younger woman and a nanny are evil on individual and collective levels, and Tim Shannon is absolutely evil, especially because he murdered his wife.
If you are a wonderful mother and work part time why do you need a nanny to help with two children. I raised 4 without help except from their father and worked..............I would never allow another female to live in my home why invite a problem.
Good for you but you don’t have the same life. I have a friend who has 3 kids and one with special needs, she needs help a lot of times because one child needs more care than others and she can’t just let them do whatever. There’s a bunch of different situations life isn’t simple? Also blaming someone who is dead is crazy but have fun in hell
@MargaretCho-pt3ng you have got to be kidding.... you cannot be victim blaming her for wanting help around the house. knowing the piece of work her husband was, he probably didnt do anything around the house or with the kids anyway...
Those inmate’s can’t wait for Tim to come to their prison. He’ll be dominated by a few hulky men that dig young new inmates. Every time his main man loses a poker game he knows what his job will be.
Dude is cool as a cucumber on that 911 call, definitely no love lost there.
Right I noticed that right away...all he needed to do was throw in a yawn 🥱 in between the casual conversation he had with the 911 dispatcher 😅
What ever happened to just divorcing people?
It's called greed. If he divorced, he'd lose half of everything and child/spousal support. Sad, but true.
@@Lepewhi now he lost everything, the irony.
@@DETOXlCATED Yep.
I always forget this any time I look up a case lol like hey, there are other options ya know?
@@DETOXlCATEDwell she didn't get it either so
Why are the children living with his parents? That means he still has potential access to the children whose mother he killed. He should never be allowed out of prison.
Her parents were dead. Her parents were unable to take care of the children. Her parents didn't want to. Her parents have criminal records. There is a million reasons.
That’s all he received for murder??? A disgrace
Where did you get your law degree Judge Caterina?
@@carpediem4512you don’t need a law degree to have an opinion.
@@carpediem4512Since when is a law degree required to be appalled at a murderer receiving a lenient sentence? We're allowed to have opinions about judicial outcomes and vote judges and legislators in and out of office accordingly.
Come on, 13 years for premeditated murder, that's like British "justice". 13 years, out in 8. @@carpediem4512
@@carpediem4512 You don't need a lw degrwe to know bs when you see it.13 years for murdering your wife.And HIS parents have custody of the kids & their survival benefits. Wonder how much of it they send to him?
13 years is pathetic. He murdered the mother of two children. Very weak and lazy prosecutor.
Then 60 years for stealing, what a joke.
It’s Because he plead no contest
@@SaraBoBara5591 does that make him less guilty?
@@morganapendragon6959 absolutely not but it saves the state a buttload of money since there won’t be a trial. Pleading no contest is not an admission of guilt, it’s basically just saying that you think if a jury heard the evidence they’d find you guilty so there’s no point in trying to fight it. Trials cost millions of dollars
@@SaraBoBara5591 I agree with you. I suspected my husband was having an affair. He likes money.
I became aware of a man murdering his wife to avoid paying her maintenance. I sat down with hubby that night. I told him I thought he had lost interest in our marriage. I told him I would rather be single than being in an unrequited relationship. I reminded him that my income was more than enough to support me, so he shouldn't worry about leaving. He was visually flabbergasted.
Next evening he came home with flowers and a gift. I just bided my time before filing to divorce him.
It really pisses me off when I hear the kids are living with the murderers family instead of the victims family. This happens over and over and the victims family is trying to see kids or going to court for rights etc.
Agree totally.. no way should the kiddies be with his family. Obviously because of their MONEY and standing in the community. Even the Policy Officer at the end sucking up by dumbing down the murder by stating he wasn’t inherently evil!!! FTW….
Were they ABLE to take care?? And the family is in some way culpable? GTFOH.
@tyrellanderson4722 Yes. The family of the victim were able to take care of them and have been trying to see them. They only went to the murderers family because he is the only parent alive, so he gets to choose. That is ridiculous. The mother is dead by his hands. He should not get that right. It also happens when the mom kills the dad. It is an equal ridiculous stance. No family should have their son/daughter murdered at the hands of 1 parent as well as loose their grandkids. They didn't do anything either to deserve this. And yes, if his parents are keeping the kids from the other grandparents, they are to blame. Think of Dan Markel and the addelsons. Same thing.
I was a nannie at 19 until the children were school aged.
I was not ever approached by my bosses husband.
He always honored his wife in every sense of the word.
They are still the happiest couple i have hadthe pleasure of being close too.
It all depends on the look in the end
It all depends on morals @@tomspeed3354
@@tomspeed3354 trust I was a model for Massimo bathing suits in late 80s and early 90s.
@@tomspeed3354 Arnold Schwarzenegger was blessed by the house keeper and defiantly not for the looks.
She approached him. Majority of affaire are started by female
1:18 Am I the only one that gets happy when I see Elizabeth Smart in this intro living her best life? Get it, girl!🎆💐
Same-I smile every time. She’s amazing. I’m so glad you has used her experiences to help others.
You're not alone in this. I always have the same reaction.
No mam your not I think it’s amazing what Elizabeth Smart is doing especially after what happened to her she definitely is fighter
I smile every time I see/ hear her intro. What a strong human she is ❤
Give me a break! The officials make excuses for him! How disgusting is that?
Exactly. MSYGONISM at its best. 🤮
An insult to the family. And yet so many people think men get harsher prison sentences than women for similar crimes. It should have been 1st degree premeditated murder as he already had the date set for the replacement wife to move in.
In my opinion, the cops are only saying that because she was overweight and an alcoholic, so they’re making excuses for him. also, he’s a well-connected man and they probably gave him a lighter sentence as a favor.
Why his parent’s so they can fill the kid’s head’s with A BUNCH OF BS ⁉️
I'm utterly aghast Detective Schneider believes Tim wasn't an inherently evil person - he just got overwhelmed juggling a wife and a mistress. Tell me you're afraid of pissing off Tim's "reputable connections" in the town you work in without telling me you're afraid of pissing them off. A spade is a spade - this was so calculated and evil, and a very good wife was murdered. No wonder she drank
Detective Schneider has no clue about justice and definitely ignorant on what is pre-planned murder! Despite the diary details and plans for Las Vegas Schneider and his confession fuddle head Schneider is busy giving Tim a 'Good boy!' certificate. Time for a change of job, along with the biased judge that gave a first degree murderer just 13 years!
Yea, how does he define evil?
Yeah, poor guy was so overwhelmed cheating on his wife, faking a future divorce, keeping some 20 year old bimbo twit happy, and plotting a murder. Nothing evil about that. Give me a break.
@@ritawallace-reed7500A commoner committing the same crime.
Men protect other men, because they want to do the same thing.
What kind of nonsense is this: he's not an evil person by nature, but had no choice than to kill his wife. God forbid his non-evil nature nudge him to get rid of his girlfriend. Ridiculous!
Detective Schneider lacks common sense and has not the foggiest idea what a criminal mind is.
He is pure evil for what he did
@@Aboma2012 Facts!
I know.. What the heck?!
Ask Nicole watts
I think tim and the nanny should both be in prison for life, i think they planned this tougher 😮😢
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Tougher?
Or together?
Agreed. I think he was a lever all she has to do was pull.
There's no proof
I haven't finished watching the entire video...pls don't tell me the nanny gets away with it...she is just as guilty as of her note book 📖📚 notes weren't enough proof they planned it together 😮
He deserves 50 years in prison NO LESS PERIOD
13 Years & we wonder why this is happening everyday in our country !!! We lock up non violent people trying to provide for there family longer then this. The way they did this woman should have been nothing under life . Sad & the system fail her if ur killed u expect the very community your serve everyday to have ur back & fight for u They let her down , she was let down by the very people she trust & then let down by the system community she serve !!! SAD
Why are the children living with his parents rather than hers??????
Sometimes if they went to court, it depends on the states laws about child custody when one parent passes away. In Tx, the children go to the surviving parent or the surviving grandparents of the children. The grandparents can also go to family court for grandparents rights and get visitation or maybe joint custody if both parents are deceased
At 5’2 and 120 pounds, I’d have to perform an Olympic break-dancing move to get my head under the water of a typical shower tub. No way she could get into that position accidentally.
Olympic break-dancing moves are very novice.
280lbs!!!!!
@@heathersmith8731 I need to work on my tub routine
Dude should’ve thought ahead and did a bathroom remodel and installed a nice, big jacuzzi tub 6 months prior. It isn’t hard to get away with it, people are just lazy.
The nanny is evil. Brought evil to the family.
Speaking from own experience?
Evil was already there. They just connected...
She might of tempted him to cheat (and that’s a big might) but everything else was on him. Why is she the only evil one when he did the murder? Like this was a dumb comment
What about Tim?
It befuddles me why you would bring an outsider either male or female into your home.
Tim got a slap on the wrist!!
And BTW, why are the kids with his parents and not with the wife's parents???
The parents are not responsible for their son's actions and are probably better suited to provide for the kids. The kids can still visit their other grandparents.
@@washingtonm654 Parents should always be responsible for the crimes of their children!
Many breed like flies and don't take the time to teach their children right and wrong and to be good people with integrity, loyalty and compassion. If parents were given a suitable sentence for the crimes of their children, more parents will rush to be responsible to 'educate' their children to prevent crime, not just be careless, irresponsible and shameless parents!!!
He is an adult. His parents are not at fault. Let’s put responsibility on the person who did this and stop acting like parents carry all blame through life. Get real
@@LessaMeieam he got to be an adult of this terrible variety because his dumbo parents had no time to teach him, though they had him from the size of dot. They only had time to 'make' babies but not educate them into responsible citizens. Due to many not putting any blame on parents, they keep producing without responsibility or shame when their children turn out to be harmful and irresponsible. The world would be better if parents did a better job!
As the saying goes you can take a cow to a pond but you can't make him drink..
That was an awesome statement by that lady at the end he is going to make an awesome wife in prison called karma
Nannies do YOUR JOB!!!
Daddies…keep it in YOUR PANTS!!!
No 😅
@@steverolefson4725
In your wildest fantasies…keep dreaming! 😝👌
Because in real life it’s a deadly NIGHTMARE and you go to prison. I suppose that fantasies in prison are real too for some!!! 😳
And under no circumstances bring a young vulnerable girl into your house. Never ends well
Baby sitter will always sleep with a man for enough money or the promise of a free ride
@@catherinewilke5583who screwed your husband when they should have been babysitting your kid. It was the fact that she was half her size and age and they probably didn’t have a solid sex life to begin with. You can have a nanny just be sexually satisfied in your marriage first.
Who says “not really” when asked if you had thought about killing someone? Not Really?
Why is there always this forgiveness for a cheating husband? The police officer said he didn't think Tim was an evil person, but he was just at his "wits end" juggling his wife and girlfriend. How about telling his wife he's in love with someone else and wants a divorce? He wouldn't do that because he didn't want his wife to have any right to take half their assets and custody of their children. It always comes down to greed.
I think Jamie should also be prosecuted as she is equally guilty. It takes two yo Tango
She had an affair, she was single. He was the one married and who committed the crime lol
Agreed. Women should respect other women and not f* around with their husbands!!
Ask Nichole watts
2 very guilty people here demons
Jamie should be in prison
No, where is the proof?
She was a conspirator.
Ask Nichole watts
Jamie is probably sizing up the next married man with kids so PLEASE mommas watch out for her shes as bad as the man who killed his wife the mother of his children
You get 10 years for a murder in Minnesota and he got 13 in Michigan he should be happy he doesn’t live in Florida or Texas or anywhere down south he would’ve got life 🤣
In Texas if you kill one of us, we kill you back. It is called Capitol Punishment. Critics claim that it doesn’t deter crime. I beg to differ. They will never reoffend.
Why 13 years ? You have got to be kidding? WOW
How were they going to run off to Vegas to get married if Lee Ann was alive ? Divorce takes a minimum of 6 months. Jamie's diaries should be left to a jury to decide her fate
Why didnt he just divorce her?
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@@stephaniewilliams0I do not know if it was about money. He wanted to be rid of her. Divorce is complicated, but essential, if you want out.
Disgusting that lady blamed her for “inviting another woman in” her home. No…the issue is, don’t cheat on and murder your spouse.
It’s not “blaming”; have common sense and a little bit of wisdom is what that says.
@@girumzemichael704100% it is. She was indeed warned. Not victim blaming in the slightest.
Inviting another adult into your home is a bad idea.
Some people are too naive 😏
@@MargaretCho-pt3ngnot if you have a solid relationship and good sex life. No one chests if they’re satisfied. Thats the issue it seems. The girl was half her size and age. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
That was good advice she did give her by not agreeing with having another woman live in her marital home. That is your castle, you are the only queen that belongs there!!! You will regret it if you do move in another woman!
Never EVER believe anyone who tells you "they drowned themselves in the bathtub". Adults cannot drown themselves in a bathtub.
It has happened a number of times. Whitney Houston. Aaron Carter. Bobbi Kristina Brown. Jim Morrison. Etc.
So disgusting and deplorable. The nanny is disgusting as well and because of her this occurred with her allowing an affair with him. Pathetic
That was thoughtful of the cousin, hoping that he'd find love in prison,,
That was hilarious!
Old story! Do not bring single ppl into your marriage!
@@ALWAYSTONED303there are hot young ladies everywhere, this guy just needed to get some morals
Agree 100%.
@@ALWAYSTONED303especially when you let yourself go and bring someone younger and attractive
I know folks who have Nannies, who have great marriages.
@@SwanTheQueenWhy did their pastor suggest this???
People! Because an advice is coming from the church or a pastor doesn't mean its right... they're also human...and they can be wrong.may leann rest peacefully 🕊️💐💔
I will never understand how anyone that loved someone then they’re feelings changed so they kill the one they no longer love? Just tell her/him you want a divorce. You don’t have to kill them. Like wth is wrong with people. I’ve never stayed in a relationship that I was no longer happy in. Grow up
Its mind-boggling that murder is the first thought and not divorce😮😮😮
Too calm for a man who just lost the wife and a mother of his kids
What a mother! Pushed her daughter to get married because "she was getting too old" What is she thinking now?
Exactly!
so you are blaming her Mother for her death?
@@karenmichelle7055
Her mother was at fault when she was pushing her to get married.
@@katerinagiannioudi401 how sad.
like her Mother can predict the future. So sad.
Never allow another young woman to move into your home. Period.
You do not get 13 years for murder. That, right there, is another CRIME!
OUTRAGEOUS SENTENCE 13.5 years for murdering her in the most undignified way, naked and then your husband having no care for you at all and sitting on you until you drown. Where is her justice. Plus his parents are bringing up the little kiddies, who knows what stories they are spinning to those little ones. He will be able to have 20 odd years with them!!! No wonder there are so many murders happening when you can get away with a sentence as light as that. The nanny sounded unmoved by it and thinks she had the right to move in. She was clear.y involved with orchestrating the murder. Take a life and get life.
Years ago my wife was pregnant, she was caring for three year old twins and we were moving. She needed help. I told her to hire whoever she wanted to so long as the twins liked her. She hired a very nice young lady, very hard working, with a terrible skin condition and red rash/pimples covering her face. Everyone was happy.
I thought you were gonna say ..she was attractive...she made a move on me but you pushed her away and fired her. Now you have an old granny as your nanny lol.. that wld have been more interesting... So let me ask you..had she not had pimples and a rash looking face wld u of cheated??
So let me ask..had she had perfect skin and been attractive..you wld have cheated?? 🤔
@LoveFlowers1 of course he would have, if she made the first move. Even with pimples he would have, check the judgements lol.
So the only reason you stayed faithful is because of her skin condition?
First video: Very disturbing fat shamming comments and Tone-deaf opinions on marriages and generosity. This is what it is. Sad.
zero fat shaming
Shamming lol
WOW! This is near me in Michigan.
She's guilty as well as he is. She had everything written down.
I feel like that 20 year old knows way more than she is saying
Absolutely deserves more time (1st video)
You can get the divorce paperwork online for 200$, fill them out, go to courthouse, and get court date, represent yourself for free and get a divorce decree 60 days later. Don't let ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY keep you in a horrible marriage that could potentially turn deadly. Just get divorced, move on, and STAY ALIVE!
I have to say, this guy wants to file the divorce first, then the wife didn’t want to divorce him. That’s a lesson to learn because when a guy wants to divorce, you better agree. Men will turn very violent once he feels there’s blocks on the road to divorcing.
That woman loved him and died loving him. He's so cruel and the nanny too.
WOW, only 13 1/2 years? Ridiculous!!
13 to 25 .. most likely he will not stay in prison for the max
Alcohol doesn't mess you up that much... sometimes. I have been blackout drunk and passed out and sometime later woke up to go pee.. .. That's not always the case but sometimes....
As long as you are not peeing in the closet on your Mrs shoes then 💯
Jamie and Tim has given me the perfect crime idea to plot.
Now all I need to do is articulate my entire plot on leaflets and hide them in plan sight; Genius!
WTF is wrong with people.
Being the surviving spouse everyone has to know by now the cops are coming for your ass first & yet you write it all down and store the writings in your locker.
A counsel man, husband, parishioner, & father 😢
Pure geniuse! LoL 😂
How did Jamie end up with Lee Ann's late mother's jewelry. Did she steal it or did he give it to her? 🤔
The nanny, wow imagine what parenting that comes from
You lose them how you got them…. In other words when someone marries their mistress they’re just leaving a vacancy. Unfortunately I’ve had 2 abusive marriages, cheated on both times, it’s a terrible feeling.
This should have been a 1st degree murder case. According to Hathaway's testimony, he named December 29th, the day of the murder, as the day and thereafter he and Hathoway would be living together without his wife. Shannon planned the murder and only received 13 years in prison. What a deal!
😮 what is wrong with people 😕 divorce! Not murder!😮 2 is company! 3 is a crowd 😮
you understand the total population of the USA you understand how many divorces are filed every year do you understand how many murders happen? It’s normal that out of a few millions, there is an idiot
P.S.---MURDER IS THE DEFINITION OF EVIL BY NATURE!!!! AND NO ADULT ACCIDENTALLY drowns in a bath tub, even when intoxicated. Its impossible. I fell asleep in tub once, the minute water entered my nose i was up and on my feet!!!
Yeah, some 20 year old didn't "make him" kill his wife. He chose to climb into her pants then rid himself of the wife. If he already considered the nanny to be a second mother, he wasn't going to accept joint custody. The whole "I meant to divorce her" is bs IMO. They both plotted that poor woman's murder and should have been locked up for life.
She's my daughter and second mother to my kids 😅
Thankfully only a certain type of person is capable of being a cheater. They could break up or divorce but their lack of heart, a soul, empathy or interest in the well-being of others, means it doesnt cross their mind. A cheater is empty inside and so dont respect the agony and trauma they cause to their children and partner.
Second case- I believe the guy intended on killing her because he was a client and she would be able to identify him. He went there to rob and kill. She was an easy target, working alone at a cash in advance place. The detectives should of looked into recent clients. This guy was too calm. He knew she was the only one there and where cash was.
13:35 - "have you ever thought of hurting or drowning her?" "Not really..." 😳😳😳
He had a great lawyer & received a walk in the park sentencing. He will probably play golf and be out of jail in time to marry this nanny. That is of course if she finds another dumb couple to play this game on. In this case both parents were extremely stupid to allow this witch to ruin their family 😢
Two possible motives:
1 - Pissed off husband who spends a LOT of money on a pro hitman, or
2 - Career criminal who has done jail time, honed his trade, learned he likes money, hates jail time, learns to leave no witnesses and thought he'd get a better payday. Also learned to stay calm, rehearse over and over at home. My money is on #2.
The guy knew where to look for cash, knew where the lock on the personnel door was, etc. He is a career criminal who has done decent jail time and doesn't wanna repeat the experience. I feel that he learned to use a silencer because a past experience (loud) caused cops to be called. Being in jail would've put him in contact with other criminals who could have hooked him up with silencers. This is a dude who honed his craft, did not target her specifically.
@@VagaBond-m6wtalking about the killer practiced being calm,that along with just became coldhearted coldblooded seared his conscience!!! And like you said,likes money,quick big payoff, doesn't want more prison!! And DEFINITELY learns skills,trades,ideas, equipment,new friends from previous prison jail time!! I've heard them brag about running businesses from prison, even have guards to help,and get contraband!! One said drugs,phones , sex is more free flowing in there than on the streets!! And one woman said "they usually always get prison time religion"!! It's great if they truly honestly become saved, accept God,and live it!! Just not an excuse,a front!!
@@VagaBond-m6wSilencers are legal.
Never ever have a young woman move into your home
I've been waiting decades for just such luck to land on my doorstep, I'm inviting her in😂😂
@@kiwidiesel you shouldn't if you're a young wife with a new marriage
@@Anna-h3t2h You absolutely should if you plan on leaving your husband after two years 🤣
@@kiwidiesel you should not even if it's after 2 months
They both should be shamed forever. The mother was gained weight bcs she was carrying your children. Disgusting.
Only 13 and half years for this man who murdered his wife? This is an Chris Watts story..cant believe he only got 13 years.. wow 😨😳 and his mistress walks free 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
“ how often do adults drown in bathtubs?” He says
3350 each year. I looked it up
That nanny "B" should definitely should also be in prison. She and him were both guilty as f😬😖😡
Why would you hire a nany that young anyways. You know yr husband is going to cheat . 13 yrs isnt enough but thats the justice system for you, you get more time for drugs.
That's bullshit if your husband cheats on you with a younger nanny he wasn't yours anyways and no not all men cheat with someone younger my aunt hired someone younger and her husband never cheated on her
@@Mimi-kf8ey If there is a s* attraction it's very hard for most men to stay in control. At least that's my understanding but I am not an expert of course.
@@Mimi-kf8eynever cheated that u know of
@mistyl1987 or maybe some people actually have a moral compass, love, and respect for their partners. Your message is pathetic and speaks volumes about you, not in a good way.
Only God knows the pain this woman was going through until her demise...😢😢so sorry for her.Rip
"You don't invite another woman into your home!"
Stop blaming victims for making perfectly normal decisions like getting help with children and supporting young people. It's the husband and the nanny that made the sinister choices.
The mistake definitely was adopting the nanny, but even that doesn't justify murder.
No one ever thinks of how this effects the children that are left behind with the awful truths of what happened. Now, not only did their father kill their mother, but now they are parentless!
The nanny is a narcissist for sure , destroyed the whole family and does feel guilty at all.
It would not have worked out long-term anyway. The deceased person got bigger and bigger every year.
@@tomspeed3354small peen energy
@@tomspeed3354 Now the husband is in jail and over 200 pounds just standing at 5'10 who's fat now?
@@Nicolethomas51312 who cares if he’s fat or not in prison- his life is over anyway after his horrible decision.
@@tomspeed3354 You are the one that mentioned weight remember? You talked about the deceased weight smh.....I'm with you who cares???
Because you are trying to cover up the fact that you came in on a hit , make it look like a robbery.
The only nanny that I'd ever consider would be Mrs. Doubtfire.
I believe I saw this guy 2 years ago
On Evergreen rd boarder Detroit
I wonder what Jamie Hathaway is doing now.
How many times are these dumb husbands going to try this trick? They ALWAYS get caught
These days they have a high chance of getting caught but think about things back before the 70’s-80’s, it’s a good thing that technology has advanced to the point where it is a rare thing to get away with a crime
Are you talking to me?
They will do anything for the promise of sec with a younger woman
That’s crazy 13.5 years is all! Special treatment there!
How to drown in an empty bath tub?
22:49 "he got coaxed - he was at his wits end and didn't know what else to do as far as juggling his wife and girlfriend" coaxed? Detective Mark Schneider explaining away a man snuffing out the human life of the mother of his children because he was "at his wits end" after not being able to keep it in his pants? most people when they are feeling at their wits end with a problem situation they go to therapy or talk to their minister. but I love how this cop is able to blame the women in this guys life - obviously the wife he wanted to get rid of was driving him nuts and the 20 year old had "coaxed" him into ending a life - he's not evil at all pppffft. wonder why we don't like cops?
Cops are very high in the DV statistics, and I’m sure this police officer is like every other male-protecting males because they’d do the same thing in that situation. He’d love to trade in his older, obese wife for a 20 year old and lose no money, no status in the community, and to get the sympathy of “poor widower who’s wife drown in the bathtub.”
5:21 Do not bring young flesh driven by lust into home
Marriage is not the end all and be all of life. It's not even a real accomplishment. 😢
Why didn't you just get a divorce?
Why do people talk to cops? If he kept his mouth shut, the cops wouldn’t have had anything.
"Affluential" Good word.
wealthy and influential. Yes it’s a good word in the dictionary
So, he not only lost his wealth, he has lost his freedom. Guys, never have a nanny in your house. A stiff ---- has no conscious...
That's terrible only 13yrs for taking his wife's life, I mean that was someone's mom, daughter, granddaughter, sister, Aunt, friend what it was urs! If it was ur loved one do u think 13yrs is enough time? Hell no it's not! I mean smdh! 🤬
What is the deal with Tim's and nannies?
Didn't Tim Walz get his nanny pregnant? He also made advances at teenage boys as a teacher. 😳
That sentence is disgusting and reprehensible. It's an insult to the victim. People get more time for drug possession. He deserves life without parole.
Hey systematically and strategically planned for Leeann’s decline in her mental health a this biggest part of tat plan was to tell her about the affair, knowing what it would do to her so they could put each stage into effect. Just sick
Exploiting a much-younger woman and a nanny are evil on individual and collective levels, and Tim Shannon is absolutely evil, especially because he murdered his wife.
lnb2 l, olm
@@yartashidan2602 , what does that mean?
If you are a wonderful mother and work part time why do you need a nanny to help with two children. I raised 4 without help except from their father and worked..............I would never allow another female to live in my home why invite a problem.
Good for you but you don’t have the same life. I have a friend who has 3 kids and one with special needs, she needs help a lot of times because one child needs more care than others and she can’t just let them do whatever. There’s a bunch of different situations life isn’t simple? Also blaming someone who is dead is crazy but have fun in hell
Exactly 💯💪🏼
Whatever happened to parents parenting?
I feel like those two things shouldn’t be your main take away from this video…
Remember, the victim is a victim, not the one to blame
@@crystalcal3798 but what if the victim made bad decisions?
For the sake of the living, we must learn from the dead.
@MargaretCho-pt3ng you have got to be kidding.... you cannot be victim blaming her for wanting help around the house. knowing the piece of work her husband was, he probably didnt do anything around the house or with the kids anyway...
Those inmate’s can’t wait for Tim to come to their prison.
He’ll be dominated by a few hulky men that dig young new inmates.
Every time his main man loses a poker game he knows what his job will be.
That nanny is so immoral, rude, impudent, hateful and evil. I wonder where that preacher met such a person? Perhaps he knew her REALLY well?
boones farm and everclear...integral components of my mid to late teens