Just applied this technique this evening. I found I had an extra socket on one corner in top quilt mode. I also turned the quilt inside out after snapping it together, it seemed to help close the gap at the foot end.
Finished making my own CDT using your instructions. I don't think I'll ever need the sleeping bag configuration but, since it only took a few more minutes, as long as I was putting snaps in, I just followed all your directions. It was very easy and works very well. I've used the CDT before but not having a footbox was annoying so this will make it much better. Thanks for the idea.
Great idea and tutorial! Just made my own, and actually found the material is so thin I didn't even need the awl, the snaps push right through. Just test drove it in my living room and I think that with a medium weight fleece liner I will be able to take this into some pretty chilly weather...it was too warm to stay in it for long at room temperature.
I didn't get a CDT, but a similar one off Amazon and I'm doing this to mine tonight. Such a great idea. We'll see if this provides sufficient heat trapping or if I'll need to move to a synch style closure at the bottom with a bungie. Hoping this one is sufficient!
Genius! thanks jelly ,your fantastic ,1 of the guys on hammock forums posted the link for me I was the idiot that was going to try and use sticky Velcro for my top quilt liner
I'm attempting something similar using snugpak jungle blankets. I've found standard size 20 snaps to be too short when going through the batting. The female snaps just about hold but the male snaps don't form enough of a mushroom head to stay together. I've ordered size 20 long prong snaps to try and if that doesn't work I'll have to step up to size 22 which have an even longer prong. It's not ideal since apparently the pliers struggle with these sizes and you're recommended to use the expensive bench mounted press instead. We will see.
I had to watch this again. This gives me a few ideas. I want to make the top quilt with foot box configuration. That looks about the easiest way to do it without having to bring out the sewing machine. I just ordered 4 more pack able quilts for $19.99 on Groupon. It is the 650 Fill in the 60x70" size. The last 2 packable quilts I picked up were the wrong type made with synthetic insulation and wrong size 50x60" I have other plans for them which may include more kam snaps. Thank you for showing how easy it is to do this.
Was it a good deal? I bought four all together for $87 shipping in 6-11 days. My Color choices were 2 in cinnamon(Orange) 1 cherry(red) and 1 soda lite(Blue)I have a fascination for red and blue combo. I'm going to try to make a blue bottom quilt and a red top quilt. My hammock is Blue with a red top cover The New Dutch Chameleon I should be getting in a few weeks. I'm also constructing a orange top/bottom quilt for a friend he has a new orange/green chameleon coming for his birthday as well. I also ordered The Kam Snaps kit and look forward to playing around with it, I have several color choices for the snaps I found orange, red, black and green.
I made one of these last year and its great, the only problem is its a little short so I am still working that out. I also made a hammock underquilt and booster (with space for a zlite pad to go in it if needed) as well that have worked perfectly (down to 35 so far). If you want to make it much warmer, rip the vertical stitches out so you only have log horizontal baffles. The down in these blankets is actually pretty good and you will see a lot more loft if you give it some room. I left two rows of boxes around the sides and one at the top and bottom to keep the down from possibly shifting too far to the side. This pretty much lines up with the part you would lay on anyway and keep the fluffy down tunnels on top of you.
Thanks for the great info. Is it fine to use these as permanent fasteners and not as snaps? That is, by putting one half of a snap through 2 pieces of fabric and crimping them together? Basically like a plastic "rivet"? Or is there a reason to use both halves on each side of the fabric and use as a snap even if you want the connection to be permanent?
I'm 6' 5" and too tall for the costco throws. So I'm going to use 1 1/2 throws and combine them with snaps for a top quilt. Actually, I'm going to use 3 throws to make 2 longer top quilts and put one inside the other for colder temps. Any reason you think this wouldn't work? I'll lose one row of squares on one quilt when I cut it apart, but oh well. Also, any ideas/plans on how to make a beanie/head cover with snaps out of leftover rows? I'm waiting for my KAM snap pliers to arrive so I can get to work!
Are you going to sew the quilts together or rivet them? I would sew if possible because that down might sneak out through the folds if you rivet. I’ve never made a down beanie, but I have made about a dozen of these and the pattern is really good: ruclips.net/video/iNMPT_brigA/видео.html
I'm not going to rip the seams and would be attaching two overlapping "sections" of 2 throws with KAM snaps instead of sewing. I don't think they'd be a problem with migrating down; there could be some heat escaping between the snaps, though. I bought a sewing machine but it was such a hassle to learn and it was hard to see and thread the needle. I can see the KAM snaps are going to be so much easier. Do you have any recommendations to fold the throws in a way to create a kind of a "hem" with the snaps to minimize air flow? Thanks for the beanie link. I'll do it using "square" dimensions from the throw and snaps. You've become a costco throw/ Kam snap design legend! Shug Deux!
Roll the edges at least 3 times if you are going to snap it. Also, space the snaps closer together. You could shake the down into the corners of the costco throw squares so that you could make a beanie that conforms to your head. I know what you mean about threading the needle. I gotta wear cheaters for that.
What size snaps did you use? #20? And what length? I'm looking at getting some of these to put on my Snugpak Jungle Blanket. I don't want snaps that are too hard to pull apart and stress the fabric.
@@jellyfish450 Thank you so much. I've seen some of your other projects, so I've got one more question for you. I may add channels to the edges of the Jungle Blanket for shock cord to use it as an underquilt. Would you use grosgrain for adding channels or some other material?
jellyfish I just say that because I saw that used on another project. I’m guessing I could use a lighter material. Suggestions? I’m wondering the easiest/lightest way to get long thin channels since they’re add-ons rather than sewn into the original fabric.
How often have you used these quilts for colder weather? The reason I ask is because I see some guys are taking out the rows of stitches, either length wise or width wise. I'm just wondering if that's really necessary.
Jellyfish, would you consider doing this to my Horizon Hound down blanket? I'm too afraid to try this on my own. I will of course pay for shipping , materials and your time. Going to take this on the Camino de Santiago in April.
What about a snap cofiguration to combine two bags for increased loft. If one throw is rated for 40º, what could two throws snapped together give you. I have a heavy 650 loft goose down bag rated at 20º in which I have been quite cold. i wonder if two of these quilts together would be much worse.
I’m not a fan of using velcro because it gets junked up with debris and dog hair really easily. Also, it is pretty challenging to sew, and adds a bit of weight.
LOVE your vids! why did you put 2 parallel rows on the long side? is the edge row for maximum space and the inner one for seal flap ? pls. explain. thanks
Might minimize air flow if you fashion a bit of a seal flap by folding one of the edge columns in on itself by about an inch or so and rivet it together? I don't have any real experience in this kind of thing so I don't know. What are your thoughts? Great vid by the way!
LuckyAshley21 I just tried putting some kam snaps on the scale and I couldn't even get 6 sets to register 1 gram. I am guessing the whole setup may add less than 5 grams to the bag.
Great, perfect...exactly what I was looking for! Can you please comment on what size you used for the Kam snaps - snap diameter and the length of the snap prong? Thanks in advance!
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Just applied this technique this evening. I found I had an extra socket on one corner in top quilt mode.
I also turned the quilt inside out after snapping it together, it seemed to help close the gap at the foot end.
Finished making my own CDT using your instructions. I don't think I'll ever need the sleeping bag configuration but, since it only took a few more minutes, as long as I was putting snaps in, I just followed all your directions. It was very easy and works very well.
I've used the CDT before but not having a footbox was annoying so this will make it much better. Thanks for the idea.
I made this today. I use mine as an extra layer inside my sleeping bag, over my liner. Can't wait to test it out.
Great idea and tutorial! Just made my own, and actually found the material is so thin I didn't even need the awl, the snaps push right through. Just test drove it in my living room and I think that with a medium weight fleece liner I will be able to take this into some pretty chilly weather...it was too warm to stay in it for long at room temperature.
I didn't get a CDT, but a similar one off Amazon and I'm doing this to mine tonight. Such a great idea. We'll see if this provides sufficient heat trapping or if I'll need to move to a synch style closure at the bottom with a bungie. Hoping this one is sufficient!
Nice idea. No sew. I was thinking about doing a draw string at the foot box with some snaps. But this seems much easier and versatile.
Thank you for this! I gave a CDT & have been pondering how to do just this!
So elegant, I love it. Ordered Costco down throws will now get the kit thru Amazon
Genius! thanks jelly ,your fantastic ,1 of the guys on hammock forums posted the link for me I was the idiot that was going to try and use sticky Velcro for my top quilt liner
thank you!! i never new how to put snaps on, or how easy it is!
I'm attempting something similar using snugpak jungle blankets. I've found standard size 20 snaps to be too short when going through the batting. The female snaps just about hold but the male snaps don't form enough of a mushroom head to stay together. I've ordered size 20 long prong snaps to try and if that doesn't work I'll have to step up to size 22 which have an even longer prong. It's not ideal since apparently the pliers struggle with these sizes and you're recommended to use the expensive bench mounted press instead. We will see.
I had to watch this again. This gives me a few ideas. I want to make the top quilt with foot box configuration. That looks about the easiest way to do it without having to bring out the sewing machine. I just ordered 4 more pack able quilts for $19.99 on Groupon. It is the 650 Fill in the 60x70" size. The last 2 packable quilts I picked up were the wrong type made with synthetic insulation and wrong size 50x60" I have other plans for them which may include more kam snaps. Thank you for showing how easy it is to do this.
Dennis Barnes I am checking out the deal on Groupon!!!
Was it a good deal? I bought four all together for $87 shipping in 6-11 days. My Color choices were 2 in cinnamon(Orange) 1 cherry(red) and 1 soda lite(Blue)I have a fascination for red and blue combo. I'm going to try to make a blue bottom quilt and a red top quilt. My hammock is Blue with a red top cover The New Dutch Chameleon I should be getting in a few weeks. I'm also constructing a orange top/bottom quilt for a friend he has a new orange/green chameleon coming for his birthday as well. I also ordered The Kam Snaps kit and look forward to playing around with it, I have several color choices for the snaps I found orange, red, black and green.
I got 2. The red one and the purple one. Awesome!
Jellyfish Report they reduced my shipping a few dollars so I'm thrilled with that.
I think I got free shipping, or really cheap. Amazing.
Making my second one today, they are so handy, thanks for sharing
Wow, very nice DIY, thank you for sharing
I made one of these last year and its great, the only problem is its a little short so I am still working that out. I also made a hammock underquilt and booster (with space for a zlite pad to go in it if needed) as well that have worked perfectly (down to 35 so far). If you want to make it much warmer, rip the vertical stitches out so you only have log horizontal baffles. The down in these blankets is actually pretty good and you will see a lot more loft if you give it some room. I left two rows of boxes around the sides and one at the top and bottom to keep the down from possibly shifting too far to the side. This pretty much lines up with the part you would lay on anyway and keep the fluffy down tunnels on top of you.
This is a great idea. I'm always looking for more warmth. Thanks!
You are seriously so awesome. Thanks again for another great video!
Thanks for the great info. Is it fine to use these as permanent fasteners and not as snaps? That is, by putting one half of a snap through 2 pieces of fabric and crimping them together? Basically like a plastic "rivet"? Or is there a reason to use both halves on each side of the fabric and use as a snap even if you want the connection to be permanent?
Sure. You could use them as rivets.
I'm 6' 5" and too tall for the costco throws. So I'm going to use 1 1/2 throws and combine them with snaps for a top quilt. Actually, I'm going to use 3 throws to make 2 longer top quilts and put one inside the other for colder temps. Any reason you think this wouldn't work? I'll lose one row of squares on one quilt when I cut it apart, but oh well. Also, any ideas/plans on how to make a beanie/head cover with snaps out of leftover rows? I'm waiting for my KAM snap pliers to arrive so I can get to work!
Are you going to sew the quilts together or rivet them? I would sew if possible because that down might sneak out through the folds if you rivet.
I’ve never made a down beanie, but I have made about a dozen of these and the pattern is really good: ruclips.net/video/iNMPT_brigA/видео.html
I'm not going to rip the seams and would be attaching two overlapping "sections" of 2 throws with KAM snaps instead of sewing. I don't think they'd be a problem with migrating down; there could be some heat escaping between the snaps, though.
I bought a sewing machine but it was such a hassle to learn and it was hard to see and thread the needle. I can see the KAM snaps are going to be so much easier. Do you have any recommendations to fold the throws in a way to create a kind of a "hem" with the snaps to minimize air flow?
Thanks for the beanie link. I'll do it using "square" dimensions from the throw and snaps.
You've become a costco throw/ Kam snap design legend! Shug Deux!
Roll the edges at least 3 times if you are going to snap it. Also, space the snaps closer together.
You could shake the down into the corners of the costco throw squares so that you could make a beanie that conforms to your head.
I know what you mean about threading the needle. I gotta wear cheaters for that.
Ozzy How did it turn out? I was thinking the same thing in re putting two quilts together because I am taller as well.
What size snaps did you use? #20? And what length? I'm looking at getting some of these to put on my Snugpak Jungle Blanket. I don't want snaps that are too hard to pull apart and stress the fabric.
Yes size 20. It is perfect for these thin fabrics. No tears after 2 years using this quilt.
@@jellyfish450 Thank you so much. I've seen some of your other projects, so I've got one more question for you. I may add channels to the edges of the Jungle Blanket for shock cord to use it as an underquilt. Would you use grosgrain for adding channels or some other material?
bereantrb grosgrain may be complete overkill but it absolutely will work.
jellyfish I just say that because I saw that used on another project. I’m guessing I could use a lighter material. Suggestions? I’m wondering the easiest/lightest way to get long thin channels since they’re add-ons rather than sewn into the original fabric.
How often have you used these quilts for colder weather? The reason I ask is because I see some guys are taking out the rows of stitches, either length wise or width wise. I'm just wondering if that's really necessary.
I am an extremely cold sleeper and I need to stack quilts in cold weather. I would consider this a summer quilt, or a layer for colder temps.
Jellyfish, would you consider doing this to my Horizon Hound down blanket? I'm too afraid to try this on my own. I will of course pay for shipping , materials and your time. Going to take this on the Camino de Santiago in April.
What about a snap cofiguration to combine two bags for increased loft. If one throw is rated for 40º, what could two throws snapped together give you. I have a heavy 650 loft goose down bag rated at 20º in which I have been quite cold. i wonder if two of these quilts together would be much worse.
Kent Dayton folks are doing it, though I haven't stacked these quilts. This is one cool idea. leiavoia.net/pages/hammock/geminiquilt.html
I plan on adding KAM snaps to my DD under blanket so I can layer in a Costco down
How long is it?
I forgot to ask about the snaps you are using in this video plastic or metal?
Plastic, size 20. They weigh almost nothing. I put 6 sets on my scale and it didn't even register 1 gram.
Great video. Just ordered 2 of these for $36. Have you heard of anyone using Velcro as the fastener ?
I’m not a fan of using velcro because it gets junked up with debris and dog hair really easily. Also, it is pretty challenging to sew, and adds a bit of weight.
LOVE your vids!
why did you put 2 parallel rows on the long side?
is the edge row for maximum space and the inner one for seal flap ?
pls. explain.
thanks
One row is for the footbox style, the other row is to snap for the sleeping bag style.
thanks.
i get it, but why not use same row for both?
I suppose you could, but you'll get a gap.
Jellyfish Report I think I understand. thank you
Is there any air that gets in between the snaps since it isn't sewn.
You could get a breeze blowing in.
Might minimize air flow if you fashion a bit of a seal flap by folding one of the edge columns in on itself by about an inch or so and rivet it together? I don't have any real experience in this kind of thing so I don't know. What are your thoughts? Great vid by the way!
Brilliant! and thanks for the video. How many #20 snaps will I need?
No more than 2 dozen
Thanks for the speedy reply. Have you done a bottom quilt video as well?
How much weight does this add to the bag?
LuckyAshley21 I just tried putting some kam snaps on the scale and I couldn't even get 6 sets to register 1 gram. I am guessing the whole setup may add less than 5 grams to the bag.
This is great. I'm gonna do something using snaps soon. Is there a reason you use KAM instead of Dritz or other brands?
I'm sure any brand of snap will work. Kam snaps are really sturdy, lightweight and inexpensive.
Great, perfect...exactly what I was looking for! Can you please comment on what size you used for the Kam snaps - snap diameter and the length of the snap prong? Thanks in advance!
I used a size 20, which is 1/2" diameter. Just slept in my hammock a few nights with the topquilt configuration and it worked out great.
Size 20, regular, extra long, or short?
Robert Bomkamp 20 Regular
What are the dimensions once you're done?
No significant air loss in between the snaps?
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