Staedtler vs Staedtler | 3001, 3187, 3200 Double-Ended Design Journey Pens - What's the Difference?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- After I made a video about the Staedtler 3187 pens, I got a few comments and messages about how they were different from the other Staedtler Pens - so I decided to make this video!
Amazon Links to Pens shown:-
Staedtler 3187 (Permanent) 36 Set - amzn.to/3kOz19W
Staedtler 3200 (Waterbased) 36 Set - amzn.to/3tiR0cp
Staedtler 3200 (Waterbased) 72 Set - amzn.to/3tgDm9I
Staedtler 3200 (Waterbased) 72 Set - amzn.to/2WW6WoQ
Staedtler 3001 (Watercolour) 36 Set - amzn.to/3thSV0Z
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Wish I had seen this comparison before I bought my markers! Here's a few timestamps for anyone curious:
9:30 bleedthrough and pilling comparison
12:10 watercolour pens
16:05 paper comparison
20:20 summary
Thanks!
Another handy video, thank you Lily ….I still like water based for my double sided page books (learning to use a very light touch!), and alcohol for single sided. I guess it all just comes down to personal preference after experimenting 👍
Yep Jackie, waterbased pens are absolutely essential for double-sided books 🙂
True, for me is all round a balance of every in other words mix. :3
Lily I just came across this video on my iPad and want to thank you for doing this as I am looking to get some of these pens and your explanation was fantastic many thanks for taking the time to do this for the internet
Aww Sue, thanks for your lovely comment 🥰
And….there is also Staedtler Marsgraphic Duo watercolor pens (Markers) whatever. These are the ones I have ( 36 set believe) They also feel cheap with a dark grey barrel. I put them with the other art supplies I let the grandkids use. ( you don’t need them). 🤣. I will stick to my Tombows, Ecoline, and Lyras. I don’t have full sets of these and probably never will. Faber Castel Pitt pens are really nice too. Thanks for your videos. I really enjoy them 💖🐞🇨🇦
Hey Louise, yeah I've heard of these but I couldn't find them here in the UK when I made this video. I still love my Tombows the best too... 🥰
Thanks for comparing these. Not sure what you did with your staedtler 3001 watercolor brush pens, but mine blend like crazy.
Nothing apart from take them out the box and use them 😄
Compared them in another video with other 'watercolour' markers and they didn't perform well then either. Enjoy yours!
@@ArtJourneyUK I will, since mine are a joy to work with.
I am an alcohol marker fanatic, but I bought the 3200 120pcs second hand unused for 20 euro a month or so ago, because I wanted to use them for 3x3mm color by number books in the cross-stitch method. They turned out to be great for it and amazingly cheap for it, but my gosh, it took me DAYS to get the order correctly XD
Many people find them scratchy on the fine liner side, but for my use-case they are pretty good. If I am planning on hanging or gifting the finished result, I will just use some fixation spray to make them waterproof and light-fast
Hi Astra! Oh nice, that’s a bargain price, well done!
This was fantastic. I was surprised how different the pens were. Tfs🌸
They’re so similar but so different 😂
Great explanation! I wish they made more colors in the permanent ink ones, they are nice to use. Thanks for sharing. 😊
Me too Deb. I really like using them. A 72 set would be great...
Thank you for this video. I was getting confused by all the different products. I will definitely check out the permanent ones, they look great for colouring details :-)
They all look so similar! I love the permanent ones for fine mandalas 😊
The main difference between permanent and watercolour version is that the watercolour version does not have: pale pink, ice blue, cream and light grey. Watercolour version does not have such bright colors. It also does not have neon colours.
I'd say the main difference is that the Permanent Pens are alcohol based and Permanent, whereas the Watercolour version are waterbased and not Permanent.
Thank you Lilly for another great review of pens 🖊 x
Thanks Emmy! ☺️
Hi there, great video, do the permanent ones give off a smell like sharpie permanents do? Thanks
@gpw6287 Hi! I've just given one of them a big deep sniff and they smell more like hand sanitiser/rubbing alcohol. They do not smell anything like Sharpies (which I cannot use as the smell affects me too much!)
@@ArtJourneyUK OK thanks, yes sharpies are too strong for me also.
@@ArtJourneyUK For colouring books would you recommend water or alcohol based? Many thanks
I prefer alcohol based markers as they don't streak as much, and the paper doesn't get degraded (and made soggy!) by the waterbased ink. However... alcohol markers bleedthrough the paper (and onto the next page), so they're only any good in single-sided colouring books.
Thank you for the comparison!
Great vid!
You're welcome! 🥰
Thank you for this video! I bought the water based and water color ones when I wanted the permanent ones. Going to buy the permanent ones now and might return the watercolors. Thank you!!
You’re welcome Cindy! They look so similar it is confusing. Enjoy your permanent ones! 🥰
I do not understand the permanent thing though. There is nothing permanent about alcohol based pens. Faber-Castell pitt (waterbased) is the only one that can be called permanent. To me the word means permanent in the state it is when you create it. And this pens drawing will fade and not keep the same color.
Permanent as in not dissolvable by water. The term Permanent is used to describe inks not dissolvable by water, as in this case... and in the case of other alcohol pens such as Sharpies.
Can you tell me what labels you used for the pens. They seem to stick quite well. I bought some that don't and had to tape them with a round of clear scotch tape, lol. I got stickers that went to 200 because I bought the 120 set. I too swatched them myself, but caps are NOTHING like the colors and it was a half-a---ed job at best 🙂
Hi Jason 👋🏻 I used these number labels amzn.to/3gdCHDV They stuck ok, not brilliant but they’re still on even without taping. One occasionally comes off when I remove a pen from the case. Yes, the caps are definitely not representative of the ink colours!
what if you want to use pes and pencils on colouring books? alcohol based markers bleed too much in books... in that case the waterbased brush pens are better, no?
Depends if the colouring book is single or double sided. Waterbased pens never give a smooth finish
Is there a cream/ skin color for the water colour pens? I need skin color water colour!
Ooo good question. I'd recommend the Tombow ABT dual brush waterbased markers for a light skin tone as they have quite a few light peach shades that might be suitable 🥰
Hi! Wonderful and really helpful video! Could you please tell me the difference between the water based double ended markers and the triplus line? I want to buy a pack of the triplus fineliners but also want to have a pack of markers with a wider tip but don’t know which one to go. Thank u so much in advance 🙏🏽
Ooo good question! The pens in this video don’t have colour numbers or names like the Triplus do (which can be bought separately if you run out of one colour) and, to me, they seem to be a bit cheaper quality than the Triplus range (kinda like student grade). I bought both the Triplus Fineliner and the matching Triplus Color pens, because they come in the same colour range but have a wider tip. I made a video about it here:-
ruclips.net/video/CngrqD-J0BI/видео.html
Hi Lily, I love watching you and want to join a Saturday colour along very soon. I was also wondering and hope you don't mind me asking; do you sell any of your supplies that you no longer need and if so, do you have a website or ebay page where you list them? Thank you Angela.
I may have posted a comment about their colour charts :D It’s usually a chart that sits next to the product specs. Not downloadable as far as I know, but if you hover your mouse over each colour, you’ll get the colour name. Would be nice if they did it for all their products, though.
Ah I never got a chance to read the comment about colour charts Leonne before it disappeared never to be seen again! Maybe the European website is different but there’s definitely no colour names for the 3001s, 3187s and 3200s on the UK website, not even any little squares to hover over!
www.staedtler.com/uk/en/products/products-for-artists/fibre-tip-pens-fineliner-metallic-markers/staedtler-3001-double-ended-watercolour-brush-pen-3001-tb18/
@@ArtJourneyUK, that's the same website I visited ;) I've sent them an e-mail, asking if they have colour charts available for these markers/pens. Just because I felt like it, hahahaha! They've been very helpful in the past, so I thought "Why not write to them. If you don't try, you don't know."
@@leonnehaaijman4709 so when you visit the link above, you see colour squares that have names?
@@ArtJourneyUK, nope. That's why I said in my original comment: "Would be nice if they did it for all their products, though."
@@leonnehaaijman4709 ah confusion all round - lol - as I thought you meant that for these pens in particular there were boxes in the product description, and it would be nice if they did it for all their other products too. I was thinking, why can Leonne see colour names and not me? 😆
It doesn’t matter really, there’s no numbers on these pens so impossible to tally with a chart anyway. I also found their customer service to be excellent, really helpful. 🥰
Are the permanent markers really permanent, so can they stand up to water, and can they go on plastic without smudging?
Hi! 👋🏻 They are alcohol based, the same as Sharpies or Bic Intensity so they exhibit the same permanence properties as those pens. HTH!
@@ArtJourneyUK so thay are water proof, i want to buy them to draw on lego😅
@@springtrapthebuilder4918 I can try and let you know!
@@ArtJourneyUK thank you
I bought the alcohol ones after your swatching video, only arrived last Thursday (2nd) I’ve put them into their “new home” without swatching, shock 😲 horror 😱 😆 Bit like you and your Bruts Lily 🤫
Hahaha I’m saving the swatching of the Bruts for winter 😂
I,ve. Never. Try. Them