MPC X & MPC One "ORIGINAL" NO MORE?.. WHY??
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- NO MORE ORIGINAL MPC X & MPC One.. WHY??
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The lane you're in is much needed for the community my brother, love your content!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
Thanks Fam!!..I really appreciate it!
I still got my MPC X and I’m not getting rid of it. I love my baby 😂😂😂😂
Lol I feel you!
I just got gifted an MPC X. Coming from the 60 its a lot get my head around. Its a beast. It makes no
sense to discontinue it.
I feel you.
The best thing about Akai right now is the second hand market. I bought a great condition MPC X for $750 (a price I haven't seen again). Sure, I'd love the added power of 2 extra gig, but this was a MASSIVE upgrade to my Live 1.
750!..Nice!
@@DyReckProductions Years of tirelessly trawling Ebay, Reverb, GC, & MusicGoRound finally paid off!
750 is incredible! I'm seeing live 2s going for more than that
The writing for the One was one the wall when the One + came out. As long as they take the updates it doesn't matter.
True.
I personally believe that the MPC 5000 was truly the last Hardcore Flagship MPC with the “Converters” that EA-Ski brought to everyone’s attention recently this year. Every MPC after it from the “Renaissance” to the “MPC X SE” are just shells of what the MPC 5000 and before were!(Maybe leaving the Akai Force as an exception because it’s a beast!) A lot of Akai’s stuff became more of MPC pad controllers instead of true “Standalone” MPCs after the MPC 5000. They jumped on the software train and became more and more digital with each installment losing a lot of that analog warmth and bang that all us “Old Heads” love. Now Akai just reel in the “Gas Heads” with the next shiniest thing with pads every year it seems. That’s probably why they are quick to stop production on recent products like the “MPC One and X”. Because they are “Only For The Moment” products! Once they’re gone or no one is buying them. They move on to the next thing! I’m glad I got my MPC 5000 along with Akia MPC XR-20 back in 2010. I thought it was the latest and greatest then. But I didn’t realize it would be the latest and greatest now. As much as I like my MPC Live II and Akai Force. They don’t hit harder than my MPC 5000! Akai has been corporately taken over in my honest opinion and focuses more on sales now instead of long lasting quality products. That’s probably why the “Akai Force” was my last buy from them! Native Instruments seems to be doing the same thing now. Either way Dyreck, keep doing your thang dog! I like your channel. “What Had Happened Waaasss!”
Bro I love the 5000 too
"I thought it was the latest and greatest then. But I didn’t realize it would be the latest and greatest now"..I feel you on that..Thanks fam!
@@DyReckProductions It’s all good! I thought I saw you with a MPC 5000 on one of your videos. So you know what I’m talking about.
I have no idea why people say untrue things. Not a single person touted the sound of the MPC 5000 when it was released. The MPC 5000 is one of the worst MPCs ever created...support for it was dropped almost immediately. Hell..Akai decided to stop producing hardware MPCs after that disaster.
Anyone crying about the sound of new MPCs today is silly (especially in a era where much of the music you hear, for better or for worst, was not created using an MPC). You can connect any USB class compliant interface and have a sound that is equal to or better than any MPC.
@@JeronimoFury You said Akai dropped support for the MPC 5000 almost immediately after its release. Yeah, just like they’re doing with the MPC X and the MPC One today! Akai has never supported a product for long. Especially if it doesn’t sell well. And as far as most of today’s music not being created using MPCs. You’ve proven my point exactly because most of today’s music sucks. I’m not saying that MPCs are the magic that music is missing. I just think that Akai’s MPCs were a lot more solid as far as build quality when it comes to the MPC 5000 and before. We could argue all day long as far as sound quality. You like your MPCs. I like mine. No big deal. As far as the MPC 5000 not getting any stamps of approval when it came out. You better check again homie. Both Havoc(Mobb Deep) and EA-Ski gave the MPC 5000 the seal of approval.
What do you mean by "got rid of"? Both units are still available
Meaning they stopped making them and are going with the One plus and the SE as the replacements..Basically the same machines with some updates..But I thought they could have stuck with the originals abit longer till they really advanced the features of the machines.
Did I not get the memo? When did Akai get rid of the X & One?
They got the new One plus and the SE as the replacements of the originals..Basically the same machines with some updates..But I thought they could have stuck with the originals abit longer till they really advanced the features of the machines.
They done the exact same with live 1 it was available to buy right up until the live 2 came out then almost immediately the og live was unavailable.
@@DyReckProductions I see what you mean now. I thought you meant that they did away with the X and the One altogether.
They released the new versions for their 35th anniversary.
Sales sales sales!!
Lol!
I got my X at the perfect time a few months before Covid hit. Gave me plenty of time to learn it. The ram in the new machines helps with the plugins but it’s not intolerable. Would love to see how the new software and MPCs will function. We need a better sequencer and piano roll to compete with FL. Until then I’m using both.
I’m on the same page I got my X when Covid hit and it got me back into production, but man I been waiting on them to make the sequencer/song mode better and update the Piano Roll which feels light years behind other DAWS piano rolls
@@BagLordX for sure. Bouncing it out FL isn’t to so bad but it takes time. Hopefully they add more stuff into the software now that they have the Keys and other midi controllers. Pad perform makes it easy but it looks very complex for no reason. I still struggle doing things in the Daw that I can easily do on the X.
No doubt.
So happy to see another video... Like, Comment...
Lol Thanks fam!!!
i have bought and sold several mpc's i even had a MPC 60 at one point i still kinda want the ONE in the classic beige format
Lol I feel you.
The MPC One is not discontinued..they only added the *Plus* to incorporate the Wi-Fi which they couldn’t do via a software update since it needs it’s own circuit for the antenna!
Oh ok.
Both products are still available and have AT LEAST another 5 years left in them through software updates
They got the new One plus and the SE as the replacements of the originals..But I thought they could have stuck with the originals abit longer till they really advanced the features of the machines..5 years might be a lil long though...Unless the updates are terrific!
5 years of a machine that struggles to side chain use VSTs or some of its own newer plugins (Flex beat, Spectral). Lol if that's true that speaks to who their actual target consumer is
Bruh I was just looking at mpc ones lmao don’t know if I should get the first gen or wait. Want an alternative to my 2500 with JJOSXL for when I want to have a different workflow.
I think you can get the Original One's for a good price and in mint condition almost right now on Ebay.
2500 underrated
Word!!..Dope machine!
DyReck. Did you check the DirtyWave M8? Is a little marvel of a machine.
BTW: I would love if they released a new MPC with a truly usable (high precision) scratching control surface or disc so it would be a complete hiphop machine.
I love my Dirtywave M8, that thing is revolutionary. Sampling, sample chopping, disk streaming, tons of polyphony, and lots of different synths all running on a $40 Teensy chip. It really goes to show what you can do with a small team and sensible design philosophy. It also makes the Polyend tracker look under-powered (similar price to the M8 but less polyphony, no synth engines, no stereo samples, and no disk streaming).
Just checked it out.. Ima look into it..Looks real different Lol!..But ima see what it can do.
I spent my tracker days in the 90s wishing I had a MIDI setup with "real" synths and samplers, and it's still wild to me that standalone trackers are even a thing. In retrospect, I get it. I've never reached the productivity levels I had when I was tracking with anything else. Most of that is youthful exuberance and energy, but the tracker workflow walks a weird knife edge between music and computer programming, and that can be efficiently exploited by amenable minds. As it stands I would want to prove to myself I can still rock impulse / schismtracker and then renoise before shelling out bucks for a standalone hardware device...
As far as scratching surfaces, maybe we could get a "what had happened" on the Yamaha DJX-IIb?
I don't think they got rid of them. They just did some minor updates and released them as new models to breathe new life into them. Those patents and such costs money and time. Before they shift production over into a new model entirely there's a lot that goes into that. I understand why they might add this or that and just tweak designs a bit so that they don't have to file for all new patents on something they're already selling. They've got an entirely new MPC in the works but we may not see it till 2026 or 2027 even. Some of the stuff we see added or updated on these models might be ideas they've put into the new model and just incorporated into the current model designs.
Oh ok cool..Good point..Guess I got too comfortable with the originals lol.
Exactly
For real it's like waiting for the movie Avitar sequel back in the day with the older MPC's 😂 All we need now is for Ensoniq for regroup and drop another version of the ASR 10 keyboard. I did have the MPC 5000 and MV8000 at the same time, and to be honest the MV was waaay ahead of that version of MPC. I have the MPC ONE in the lab and love it along with the Force and Maschine plus. Akai is just going through emotions of evolution, like hairstyles, remember the "shag" or that part in the afro 😂 or the cliff ? 😂
Lol!..No doubt..I feel you.
Sampling..I would agree that the MV was way ahead. But the MV sequencer is trash compared to any flagship MPC.
I still have my mpc one.. Ill die with this thing I stg
Lol I feel you.
I have a live2... I still want a One for some reason
I'm wondering where we can go at this point as far as huge new features, I feel like we've covered most of the bases by now and most of the updates they could do is just more power/memory, maybe MPE, but I don't know. I'm more of an Ableton Push guy myself so I can't comment too much. If only the push 3 standalone had arrangement view I'd be out of the market for good
I wish they would include some accessibility features into their standalone MPCs so visually impaired/blind people could get busy with a standalone piece of hardware. Maschine did this on the mk3 and it works really well but I haven't seen any hardware machine incorporate these things into it.
They could definitely update the sound..Right now all the new models basically sound the same..If they gave the bigger models a distinctive difference like more punch or something that would be nice.
Funny😂 One of the first things I do when using Ableton is switch to arrangement view.
@@DyReckProductions no, they don't. At all. The X's inputs can be driven without the digital distortion you get with definitely the live 2 and probably the one as well, I can't remember. The SE has Burl Brown converters as well and the majority of ppl aren't taking advantage of the built in preamps by using XLR cables and bipassing them by plugging in TRS cables. The X in particular has beast sound if you know what you're doing. Not to mention the fx rack in drum program edit and layers.
@@badboy69cancer The XLR cables inputs are the truth!!..Your right alot of folks bypass them.
To be honest I am looking forward to the mpc software 3.0 and hopefully it will have an 3.0 firmware update that will be able to be installed for my mpc live 2 that's worth it.if not then I'm good with my mpc live 2 combo with fl studio 21 full plugins edition with stem separation Mastering and distribution and fl cloud all in 1 setup 😂 so to keep it simple I'm not that concerned it's a grate n blessed time to be an music producer music maker or hobbyists whatever someone has anything do with music creativity n tech it's a beautiful option filled world from my prospective 👍🏾😊💙❤️💙🙏🏾
Lol I feel you.
Same but inMusic Brand/AKAI are strictly focused on doing hardware refreshes at this point. Very little innovation with the MPC Software because AKAI seems to think that mostly everyone has the MPCs with standalone and not the Touch, Ren and Studio.
For context: Serato Studio 2 has already beat MPC Software in adding VST3 support plus more than 4 FX slots per Pads, Tracks, Programs, MasterBus etc. It's kinda sad to see Andy Mac post videos using an MPC but still needing an external DAW like StudioOne or Logic to finish mixing and mastering instead of having the ability to do everything inside the box. Other DAWs are really leaning in with the Stem separation and AI Mastering tools.
Honestly, MPC Users need to be more vocal about this cause they're just going to continue this trend if everyone just buys into whatever mediocre products they put out without question.
@@ThaRebeliouZ well said 👍🏾
I hope whatever new MPC comes out has the classic pads..
That would be nice.
I think the x was due but the one was fast but I think they one plus is what the original one was supposed to be. I don’t think they ever wanted it wired but couldn’t source enough parts. Once they could get enough at scare at the price they were willing to pay they moved on. I think the key61 is really what they want to be the flagship but the market doesn’t seem to have responded that way.
Good point..Yeah it still feels like there still trying to find the right fit for the 61..I luv the layout of the 61 alot.
Hey there - let me tell ya - I love My MPC One. I don't see myself getting rid of that thing ever! It was my first MPC ever, I have since bought the Key 61 which I love and a couple akai forces... Personally Akai can do what they want, this gear is mine to keep and I am gonna keep on making music with it - know what I mean? I mean synth/sampler makers are going to keep pushing new products out - they have to to sell more and make more money, it's up to us to decide which products are worth spending money on. My opinion on gear lately (and even as a youTuber) is anything more than what I have is unnecessary, it's all just icing... Wicked good video as usual m'man! Talk to you later!
No doubt fam!..I appreciate the support!!
As long as that mofo turn on and make beats. I don't care.
Lmao!!..No doubt!
MPCs will still be around. I do feel that the MPC X and One have been pushed out by Akai. I jusy bought a One a few months ago for $400 mint in the box with a few expansions. I thought that was a deal. I'm already seeing the One + and the Retro going for $450 used. The X I've seen it going for $1000 or less. I missed out on a sweet deal 2 years ago for an X. It sold for $450. That was incredible. Once I see a nice deal on an X, I will buy it. I think they might keep the Live II around for a minute only because it's portable with a speaker. I still see those keeping most of their value. Hey I still own my original MPC2000 froom '97. (2 of them at that.) All in all, I'll always be an MPC guy. Great video. 👍👍👍👍👍
No doubt fam..I feel you on the Live II..I dont see those prices coming down in the after market..The speaker was a really nice touch.
Still a great machine MPCX!
No doubt!
I just updated the firmware of my X and software to 12.2 last night even though I never activate the new instruments. I heard there's a new plugin. I gotta read what's in the update. Whatta sampler.
No doubt.
i have an mpc one but it turned out not to be for me .Maybe i am just dumb but i could not get into the workflow unlike a DAW like Serato Studio which is in the Serato ecosystem which i feel more at home with.
It does feel a lil like using an ipad...But if you get the hang of it..Its a pretty quick workflow.
I don’t know about that. They replaced the X and One with virtually identical models. Was there a problem when they replaced the Live with the Live II? Pretty much the same scenario. They replaced them with more of the same.
But im not sure if they discontinued the Live.
I had the black Uno, they came out with the Retro, I had to have it. I gave my first one to my son, and all he does is repeat all the time, "They should have gave this wifi!"
For nostalgia,
I'm glad I have it.
I think updating it was a good idea, mine is a collectors item, and the MPC One+ is still better than the Maschine+
No doubt..I feel you.
I just want to be able to sample... and save projects and samples with the albums cover art.
I'm holding onto my MPC One Retro until there's a new MPC Live type of release. Once that's out, I'm buying it with the quickness.
I have been using MPCs since 1997. Throughout Akai's history (even when it was a Japanese product) a new MPC has been released every 2-3 years. The MPCX and MPC One are 4-6 years old. Their replacements are long overdue.
The one plus is on back order, shit ive seen the OG one’s on craigslist for $350
Dang!
One is still for sale here?
It will be for sale until sold out. No replacement.
They stopped making the original..The One plus got some new updates..Thought the original could hang around longer till a real big improvement but idk.
You the only person saying they got rid of the x and one. What’s your source mate?
They got the new One plus and the SE as the replacements of the originals..But I thought they could have stuck with the originals abit longer till they really advanced the features of the machines.
@@DyReckProductions I see what you mean now. Reckon the extra ram is needed for the upcoming 3.0. I’ve got the x se and the live mk1 but still use the live so I hope extra ram isn’t essential.👍🏼
@@buzzmusic7039Oh ok might be right about the new 3.0
Akai never got rid of the X. There is no new MPC X out. Just a special edition release of the same product. No replacement.
I thought they could have stuck with the original X and One abit longer till they really advanced the features of the machines.
@DyReckProductions they've been making special edition releases since the 3K. They still support the main flagship. It's just adding a new colorway and slightly a few new small additions to the already still in progress flagship
@@thablackkat9905Oh ok.
as long as i still get all of the update im good with one
I feel you.
It was perfect for the used market. I'd love for them to continue to move at that pace but continue to support the hardware. I feel like I got my X half price based on what the SE was going for and I regretted buying the One+ new.
Yeah..They got alot of good deals on the after market.
@@DyReckProductions My question is "Will these be the new vintage devices?"... You can get good money for a Linn MPC. God willing you have a SP1200.
Akai has gotten greedy with a manner of money grabbing. You are correct in them eradicating the X and One...at least 3 more years to go with a sweet price drop ensuring a huge sales surge in doing so.
It's again like when I bought my Mackie D8b fully loaded mixer for 38 Grand here in Europe and my Pro-Tools rig at another 30 before it both where discontinued and completely dropped.
I refuse to buy a refrigerator magnet from either company again!!
Akai should tread lightly as they are catching heat already about the Converters on the SE, not hitting hard like the 3000, AND seemingly directly disrespecting noted producers in the industry, Akai users since day one because they have expressed these issues.
Tread lightly Akai....
Perfect timing for Roland to release a box that does all that the SE does with 64 audio tracks capabilities, 10 terabytes of storage space, advanced converters perhaps incorporated tunes specifically designed towards enhanced warmth and perhaps an integrated 20 inch amoled touch screen with fully automated 24 sliders array using a stacked 4 layer button press structure and automated rotary controlled visible onscreen movements and lighted movement increase on the Control "Ro-Links" knobs!!
Also an internal card structure to swap out track structures and advanced electronics that would ensure that unit would NEVER be discontinued nor obsolete..Ever!!
Name it the "Roland Optimal Prime" or some name of dynamic dominance.
I'd gladly pay $6-8 G's 4 Dat Bih!!! 💯👌🏿🙄🤯🤪👍🏿
Incorporate TUBES...not "Tunes"!!
Redesign descriptive dictionaries on Gawd Laaaawd!!!! 🙇🏾♂️🕊🙏🏿💯👌🏿😤
"Roland Optimal Prime" !!..That would be dope!!
I'm good with software and a midi controller. With hardware they will always update and add new features...with software you good for upgrades
Yeah..I guess its whatever works best for the user.
Maybe they have something better to roll out soonish. Could be more RAM, more disk space, better processing? Native Instruments came out with their new line of keyboards equipped with a touch screen, which are integrating kontakt libraries to work with the keyboards. Maybe AKAI have something even better than that in mind?
True.
Touch screen Komplete keyboards to access Kontakt libraries been here 5 years. Akai could do similar but the difference is they want to cater for Standalone and that will never be possible. Look at flex beat, spectral, and the use of VSTs - in standalone these devices were not built for intense processing. Maybe next gen
I agree fully.. I think they had a few more years of shelf life also.. I think they just improved the one and x so they can use a lot of the older units left. Like reusing older stuff so it doesn’t go to waste I mean lol. I hope they bring back an older model one day. Like the 2000 or 3000. Rossum brought back the sp 1200 with 10 seconds more sample time. To me older models of hardware are built with more quality. Peace king
Yup!..The older models sound awesome!
The new generation of MPC should implement MPE controller format... This could be a game changer in the Akai world
I feel you.
I almost got an mpc one a couple years back. It was a confusing time for akai, tho as they kept puttin out new mpc after another. It made me not trust them if they can't even stay dedicated to one machine, why should I invest $700 into it?
Word!..They kept rolling out MPC"S lol.
Bruh Akai already has a holographic drum that projects on a table or where ever.
Fully functional.
Dang!!..I really got to check that out.
Its really sad to see such little upgrades after 6 years, especially with RAM prices at an all time low the price upgrade of 1000 dollars hardly justifies it, id love an XSE but 2500 is sorta nuts for what it is
Yea shits crazy we already got ddr5 they could at least throw 24gb of ddr3 something.
Yeah I feel you..I was waiting for a whole new generation of MPC's with a totally new look and features..Might be coming soon though.
The lack of user upgradable RAM and even disk streaming for huge VSTs is inexcusable imo
Yeah I kind of feel like it highlights how little competition the mpc's truly have. If you made a features list and compared it to every other standalone hardware sampler being manufactured currently there is nothing that could possibly compare to all the options it affords it's users. What other machine has both virtual synth engines, and a whole suite of effects, USB host ports that you can plug in a powered USB hub to, and you can plug in an audio interface and a multitrack USB mixer, Ableton link, CV/gate outs, touch screen, extremely deep sequencer with probability, ratcheting, sample playback operations, (4 samples per pad, can be set to random, round robin, and based on velocity input actually the amount of parameters that can be affected by the MPC community) playback modes (one shot, pad on, pad off,)
And I suspect that they will keep using this operating system when they do finally bring out a truly more powerful MPC, because it's built on Linux, why would they spend money developing a whole new operating system from the ground up when they can just keep iterating on this one just running on more powerful hardware?
I was looking at the specs of all the workstation keyboards available on the market though because if you go and look at like the Yamaha mod X, and the Korg Kronos, and the Kurzweil 2700 they are pretty much the closest things on the market feature-wise to the MPC's.
I think if Yamaha wanted to seeing how they just came out with new finger drumming machines, that they probably have the best chance of holding their own through taking the modx operating system and modifying it for the purposes of giving modern day composers the most powerful set of tools in a standalone groove box form factor that answers the call of professional producers for a more comprehensive centerpiece for their hardware needs.
The X came out in 2017. How is that too soon? The One I'll agree with you on but not the X. It came out along with the Live which has already been replaced by the Live 2. Having said that, I actually just got the One Plus. I couldn't imagine having to update my machine with an Ethernet cable v
I agree they got rid of the MPC One too fast, The Plus isn't that much of an upgrade with the wifi and the bright red color which it would of been cool if they gave you the option to get it in the retro color everyone don't want a red machine in their studio ..
Yeah well, I got mpc X, ZERO EXPANSION PACKS, The the MpC x Se, Same machine, Just came with all the expansion packs, pretty much Akai just needs to give the mpc x users all those expansion packs and milllions will be happy with akai again, But yo, Ive made so many Hits on the Mpc X. In a way feel like its a good thing to have the mpc x as rare gem in the future, mpc live 2 still kicks ass, So..its really just about the pads and the ram and the sounds, more reggaeton sounds, because thats whats at the front now….People are getting tired of the same ol hard 808 Trap classics..so idk jack just what i find
Yeah I feel you the X made a big impact..And the live 2 was definitely a nice touch.
Are Akai even making decisions anymore about product? What’s going on everywhere is shaky
I feel you.
Feel like they got something coming tbh
Hu? Did they stop selling MPC X and MPC ONE and only sell the same-but-slightly-updated versions? That’s hardly a surprise. I do like the black MPC ONE better than the red & retro design.
Yeah they got the updated versions. I dug the original look..I felt the originals could have stayed a bit longer till a whole new fleet idk.
Yeah but now they can say they are selling new versions at higher prices. …. I remember when the ONE was on sale for $599 not the $799 that I last saw. :(
@@DyReckProductionsI still hope to one day try the AKAI Force. (Mpc is too convoluted to use, I don’t have extra-time to learn it, and Force got some more interesting features)
@@tobiaslofiYeah the Force is nice..A whole different workflow.
I have both an original X and an original One.
The only upgrade to the X was more RAM and the only upgrade to the One was built-in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. To be honest, I think Akai dropped the ball in 2020 by releasing the MPC One without Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Those features should have been included from the start. With that said, I like the black color scheme and yellow buttons of the original MPC One much better than the new red color scheme and white buttons on the new One.
As far as the MPC X SE goes, there really are no physical hardware button changes or input output jack option changes whatsoever. The physical unit looks exactly the same as the original MPC X with the exception of the color scheme. With that said, I think it was alright for Akai to update the MPC X. However, I don't necessarily agree with the way they went about it. In my opinion, I think Akai should have either just offered a hardware memory upgrade option for those who want the 4GBs of RAM, even if that meant the upgrade would be expensive and require a motherboard swap, or just release a newer MPC X but called it a "MkII" version or "II" version (like the NPC 60 II, for example) with 4GBs of RAM as standerd but kept the original black color-scheme with white type-face. In addition, Akai could have still offered a Special Edition with the retro color scheme for those who want that as well, just like they did with the Gold version.
I think the next flagship MPC won't be called "X" at all and ut would most likely be something totally different and much more advanced.
So to conclude, I like the updates Akai made to the MPC X and MPC One. They were needed in order to keep up with technology as well as their software that is becoming more advanced with every update. However , I like the "look" of the original MPC X and One better. I just wish Akai kept that. Maybe Akai could have kept the black color-scheme for the new MPC X but changed the red side panels to grey (like the ones on the MPC X SE). That would've been dope.
I feel you..I like the color scheme of the originals also..I think your right about the SE coming as a retro alternative like the Gold..I felt if there going to introduce something new go all the way with features and looks..Kinda felt the originals could of hung out a bit longer before changing them up a bit.
@@DyReckProductions The red color of the One Plus is just so that early adopters will get "screwed over" once again when they push out more colors. All part of the plan.
Think the x se should have had a touchstrip.
@@buzzmusic7039 Yeah. That would have been cool.
@@DyReckProductions Yeah, I agree.
WTF I just got an X!
Had to wait until new year for the XSE ....
Lol I feel you.
New MPCs are just a DAW in a sub-par laptop with a fancy case. MPC 2KXL forever! Grab 'em while they're still affordable! :P
Lol!
I loved my One, but they should have a higher spec version. While there's nothing wrong with it, it just felt slow compared to my PC. I understand that's not a fair comparison. But I'd gladly pay more for a faster model. I know it could happen, everything FLIES on my iPhone 14 Pro, My One just felt like it was just a little too slow. a CPU upgrade, and double the ram it would be like a totally new beast.
With that said. The MPC One's a superb machine, I was disappointed when they dropped the plus and it was mostly the same. The internal storage bump was probably really nice for a lot of people, but I always use an SDcard. $1k for a blazing fast One with 8GB of ram and 32gb of storage would be DOPE dope, hell even 4GB of ram would be nice.
I feel you..The One was pretty nice..And a great bargain for the buck.
Sold my One a few months back, could see this coming. Also people are hoping that software update 13 will bring so much more improvements but I don't buy it - those boxes are too limited I will wait for the next gen. Alarms should have went off when flex beat and spectral processing they gave us but said 'not in standalone.' Meanwhile DAW producers are using spectral dynamics, stem separation, and sampling software like Serato, MPC users still pray for a real side chain. They need to hit the drawing board, improve the software or the hardware in a major way. Next Gen please....
I get your point if you're trying to use your MPC as if it was a DAW. However, I use my MPC mostly for sampled drums and as a centerpiece sequencer for an all-hardware setup. Therefore, drum sampler and sequencer functions are the most important features to me. With that said, the effects plugins, mixing engine, and the 2GBs of RAM found inside these newer MPCs are miles above anything from the previous generation of hardware MPCs, making these machines more capable then ever of accomplishing the task of the older MPCs ("MIDI Production Center"). On top of that, you can use USB to expand your MIDI and audio I/O. This really is incredible for hardware users.
If there are any software improvements that could be made, it would be related to sequencer and workflow, because there are some functions and workflow features found in older units that were omitted in this current generation of MPCs for some reason. Other than that, the only other thing I can see them improving on would be sound quality. Perhaps Akai should beef up their converters and use more high-end components for the analog inputs and outputs in their flagship models, such as the X.
As they are, these current MPCs are fine machines depending on how you use them. It’s also understandable that these particular MPCs, or any MPC for that matter may not be the right machine for everyone.
An improvement in the sound would be nice.
It seems to me that the One+ and X SE are simply Mark I or "S" (iPhones) spec bumps introduced to take advantage of increasingly affordable CPU & memory improvements. Especially for the flagship MPC X, it wouldn't make any sense to release other MPCs (One, Keys, Live II, Studio) and give them more RAM for example than the flagship - so they had to update the X with more memory unless they were going to stunt the whole family for no reason. The Live II speakers were a big deal ofc, idk if it would have been possible for them to do an upgrade kit for the One like the SP-808 to SP-808ex? Its like when Apple quietly bumps up the specs in between re-designs. You didn't mention who you think is on Akai's heals....
Lol..Who's on akai's heels is definitely coming soon..Im just gonna see if there actually gonna come through with this product there talking about releasing.
Your content is typically on point, educational and entertaining... However - this title feels more like clickbait because they haven't gotten "rid" of either unit... actually what they did was update/upgrade the units internals to fully serve what they were marketing - a true standalone experience... you make it seem as if they've abandoned the form factor and/or operating system which isn't true since the X SE and ONE+ are both available... the MPC X SE is selling for $2500 which made the X start selling for $1700 (brand new at retailers)... that price point was too close to the Live 2 which is $1300... and the ONE+ for $700
I do understand that there are some hardcore AKAI enthusiast that buy every MPC either because they're a collector various different workflows - but they are are and the exception
With that being said you start to see a pricing issue above between the XSE, X and Live 2 which also conflicts with the marketing...
Dropped implies a major change in form factor and components like going from the 60 to 3000... 3000 to 2000/2000xl.... 2000 to 4000 and etc
Nah didn't mean to come off as them getting rid of the One plus and the SE all together..There still pretty much the OG One and X with some updates..But I feel they could have stuck with the originals abit longer till they really advanced the features of the machines..I mean to a next level..Like how the 4000 was the next level to the 2000xl..But you right about the costs getting pretty close and them having to make sense of everything with the pricing.
Yes sir just like cell phones and video game consoles the trend is to come out with a new one every year so we don't even get to feel like we have the latest shit for more than a year 😩 I have one but I really want that wifi capability
Word!
Shame we can't upgrade the mpc one with our own ram or hard drives
That would be dope.
I think this had all to do with pleasing all of InMusic's shareholders Lol. think about it.
They can't do it off of Plug-ins alone lol. They even bought out Moog
Since 2020-2021 'didn't happen'. They playing catch up the best way they can.
Maybe.
So upset. Brand new mpc one plus has crashed everytime i use it!!! It gets confused soon as you load more than one or two plug ins, or do mix downs, or load up four effects. Really ticked off! Going back to real hardware! Not a laptop in a box. Feel like old school mpc was a whole different animal.
6 years is too soon? lol
What up Ave!..Them corona years makes it feel shorter Lol.
Curt Schillen in da house
Maybe, one day the ethernet port on the MPC One will come in handy for some type of software mod.
Oh ok maybe.
What are you talking about exactly…..they did not get rid of the X?? Did something happen like yesterday… (Updated) I think you are considering the SE as a “new” MPC…it’s not….its the same MPCX….the OS/platform is the same and the hardware form factor has not changed. Its just an update of the same machine. (Like the 2500 and the 2500SE) And the updates were definitely nice to have.
I feel you.. Just though they could have stuck with the originals a bit longer till they were ready to really take things somewhere else.
You didn’t make one on the mpc lives 😂😂😂😂
Yup..That's definitely on the list!
I'm sorry but yeah, I'm saying good riddance. I had that special live 2 and ended up returning it. I'm excited to see what they release next!
Oh ok..No doubt.
Dont make sense to produce 2 machines that have exact duplicates out. Financially.
The MpC OnE is still on there website so looks to me its still available
They discontinued the original One..Its still on there site but retailers are listing the manufacture discontinued the product.
@@DyReckProductions well I'm glad I got mine last year
@DyReck No one is going to wait for a competitor to release the latest and greatest. Do ever see a major car manufacture not release a new model year car? No. Why? Simple, it can cost them their user base, reputation, sales, respect, spotlight, whatever. There are a lot of reasons. The same logic applies here. The cool thing here is, no one is stopping anyoene from using old MPC's or, driving around in that older classic car.
True I feel you..Its not the old days when they waited to come out with stuff..Some companies feel its better to stay current and put things out asap..Get the money while it still there..But I feel at the same time if they don't have any new dope features on there machines some folks will wonder why did they come out at all.
Ive only had the one for a year lol
The One is nice.
Cmon bro anyone into digging/Djing Sampling........!
I just bought a brand new MPC X for 1100 i feel its a bargain ❤
No doubt.
Meh the One X gives no real incentive to upgrade. It's just such a minor upgrade that it's still the One.
I feel you.
I'm no beat maker. I am a musician. To me it comes down to dollars and cents. Akai can't afford to have two of the same product doing similar things. That's not cost efficient. Whichever product is selling the most units and can bring in new customers, that is the product that will manufactured.
No doubt.
Good ...cuz if you didnt own the 2000,3000,4000,5000 its no use to have the x...rap is over anyway...its time for the real producer to stand out again and you need a 2000,3000,4000,5000 good luck
Rap needs resuscitation lol.
Akai is messing with peoples pockets. Why put out something that would make their flag ship inferior? Why didnt they improve the X with the right updates. frist they come out with a cheaper Mpc models with better software in it, than come out with a new version of the X thats just alittle better, like we got money to throw away, and let the original x sit in the corner some were gathering dust.🤔 Nothing should be better than the X in my opinion. What do you guys think?
I thought they could have stuck with the originals a bit longer.
Akai hasn't really been akai for years
Lol.
They make money selling hardware, gotta keep replacing them :)
Lol I feel you.
No
They took the same parts from the X but a new faceplate on it, added more cpu and ram, so actually X SE is making them money cause cost averaging is way down now, the only thing they did not do is FIX THE DAMN CONVERTERS, why would they, they would not make the gravy money they making now on SE. Its a joke that in 2023 we do not have a proper workstation that has above average sound quality. You should do a whole series on converters and we don't want to pay another $1000 to get class compliant USB, this whole thing feels like a prank they pulled on people, lets see what they do with Moog.
stop stupidly repeating the religious doctrine of E-A-SKI.... he's a seller of samples (processed by HIS "GOOD" converters)... I hope that as a "sales representative" you are employed. ... Otherwise order extra Vaseline, because it will criticize each generation, to sell its sounds, supposedly "the best in the world"....
Lol..Yeah alot of folks tired of these weaker converters..They definitely need to step up the sound.
@@DyReckProductions in all environments: Guitar, guitar amps, synthesizers... there are always purists who find excuses not to create music... afterward, everyone sees interest at their door, in this distorted world, there are internet content creators, spectator commentators and real creators in whom all these little people will see their interest.... everyone places themselves where they have the most talent.... 🤣
Lmao! U remind me of Ivr Gotti 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😭
Lmao!
I'm loving mine
I feel you.
They all do the same thing, manipulate samples, what else y’all them to do make the beat for you?😂😂😂
Lmao!! I feel you.
They Doing It RIGHT. And They Giving us Free Updates That Make All Their Devices Feel FRESH, STILL. So No Complaint Here.
No doubt.
Ita all a game they put out 1 at a time on put&change the features a little at a time to keep vthe $coming in to stay relevant it's all.pre planed game !!@@@
Lol I feel you.
A better one wouldn't matter. The people that only sample will only sample. If sample beat makers never do anything but copy what others do, what reason would there be to keep giving them new crap?
Mpc community is destroying themselves with constant whining.
Lol.
I'm selling my x with a 1tb ssd added for 800
Bro they know these machines they are making are trash so they move on quick
Lol!
Amiri made a MPC purse D?!? A PURSE bro!!! For the most powerful drum machine in the world. 🥺
mpc's new devalues 2 months after release they need them converters back
Yup!!!
The new MPC's X/Live/One are all trash. Terrible sound. Rossum SP 1200 is the real deal, great sound.
They do need to step up the sound.
MPC 2000 Classic>MPC X/MPC One
Lol.