AVOIDING FIG PIES IN THE SKY! BUYERS BEWARE! Proven Varieties & More On Black Madeira. 8/14/19
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- BUYERS BEWARE! Greenhouse Chat's Continued. Selecting Fig Varieties Carefully and avoiding the hyped up wannabes! A discussion of some truly great ones and More on Black Madeira.
I’m going to be your number 1 fan mister Lou you have great variety of figs thanks for sharing
G00D Morning from Auckland, New Zealand it’s Saturday, November 23, 2019
I’m ready for a greenhouse chat Lou!
Too late for me. Now I'm looking to eliminate at least 75% of my collection.
There is a tremendous amount of misinformation out there Newbie. In my opinion, there's a great deal of confusion, too. Personally, collecting too many fig varieties, too fast, is something that should be avoided. This is a topic about which I could write a book! However, once thoroughly researched, adding time proven, productive, climate suitable, fig varieties can certainly be a rewarding experience to a new hobbyist.
Great video; Northern New Jersey, Chicago Hardy wins!
Hi Lou, you were showing us your I258 and it surprised me because it looks so large and yellow; aren't I258s dark figs? Perhaps you misspoke?
Hi, there. The answer to your question could be quite long, so, I will try to condense it. First, so that readers aren't confused, the cover photo is not I-258. Secondly, the Italian 258 that I mentioned in the video was I-258. Thirdly, I take great pains to shuffle my fig trees in and out of the greenhouse so that the figs retain their natural color and slightly better flavor by being exposed to the unfiltered sunlight. Number 4. That summer, I was overwhelmed by my workload, and I didn't rotate that particular I-258 in and out of the greenhouse quite enough. Accordingly, the usual darker color didn't appear on those early figs. You have a good eye for detail. I'm happy to make your acquaintance, and thanks for watching! Lou Monti
Mister Lou when you say give them a head start you mean leave them in the greenhouse longer?
Depending on your zone, you don't need a greenhouse if you shuffle! It's impirtant to try and wake up your fig trees early by getting them out in the sun on warm days as soon as possible. If, in your zone, a fig variety absolutely needs a greenhouse to ripen, then, unless you have a greenhouse, you should avoid it completely.
Black Madeira and Preto fig are NOT the same fig. My grandfather grew Preto fig back in Portugal also called "Violetta"
the Black Madeira comes from the Portuguese Island of Madeira more of a"tropical" climate fig. The preto can stand a bit more of the cold side of the climate compared to the B.M. Just wanted to share. By the way the preto fig is such a wonderful under-rated fig, it actually as a bit of a smokey flover (hint). Take care!
That they are not exactly the same variety I do not disagree with you. I have said in my vidios that I think that they are slightly different. Figo Preto branches out somewhat differently than it's more upright counterpart (B.M.) and it appears to be a bit more productive, with the figs slightly smaller. They are very similar in taste and texture, both being top tier figs of a delicious nature. Preto, I have observed, seems to be a bit faster in taking on new growth. Some claim that Preto is a bit earlier, but I have not experienced that personally. Unfortunately, I am less experienced with Preto than I am with the Black Prince of Figs (B.M.). I have a very nice Preto tree which I have grown that I will be observing closely next Summer. Thank you very much for providing your personal experience and observations to me and any other interested growers reading these comments! Take care, Lou Monti
You have beautiful fig trees, what type of soil you use for your poted trees?
Thank you. Some of my other videos cover that topic. Thank you for your compliment.
Awesome.............!
Dear sir , What size containers do you ususlly use for your potted figs ?
Thanks! Molto grazie !!!
I like using between 5 and 10 gallon grow bags. I like keeping the roots contained in smaller pots as they are far more productive that way. I find that 5 gallons for smaller trees, 7 gallons for medium size trees, and 10 gallons for a bit larger trees is usually plenty if the trees are supplied with rain water and high concentrations of the right nutrients. Bigger is not always better. Once they get too big, I like to plant them in ground or give them to my close friends and family. Thanks! Lou Monti
@@loumonti10 Hi, What make grow bags do you like and are they the tall or more horizontal grow bags ? Thank you ! Mark
In your collection you can collect poona fig and dinkar fig tree from india
Damn Lou I just like to come visit and eat all your figs brotha!!
Hahaha
Good video. Would you recommend White Madeira? I heard it's good, never had. I want to get one next year and would like your opinion.
Well, the answer to that question would require a very long response. I have not personally grown White Madeira. I do know a little about it, as the discoverer of this particular Adriatic type fig is a personal friend of mine and we have had a number of discussions on this variety. He is a person of great integrity, therefore I feel as though I can personally rely on his observations regarding this cultivar. This variation of an Adriatic type fig tree seems to have notable characteristics, not too distinctive from other successfull Adriatic variants, and it seems to be holding it's own among other vigorous members of that group. Keep in mind that all true Adriatic types, greenish on the outside, with a rich and delicious reddish color flesh on the inside, are generally somewhat late producers in the colder zones, and the crop will often not ripen fully when planted in ground. They do better, in the colder Zones, when grown in containers, and every attempt should be made to give them an early start, of course! Regards from, Lou Monti
But, but I thought this video was going to be about " getting caught up in the craze. Is the Black Madeira kk worth getting caught up in the craze. Zone 7a Manassas Va. No greenhouse
Without a greenhouse, the answer would definitely be a no. With a greenhouse and heating in the early spring, latefall and early winter, it'd produce beautifully for you.
You can purchase a small greenhouse just to have 10 plants or so depending on how much you want to get into it (but that's the point it starts becoming very cost ineffective)
@@ofon2000 thankyou. You saved a minimum of $50
Mr I enjoy your vidio of your greenhouse could you possibly tell me how it cost you to make thank you
I can't, sorry, but much less the buying one.
Would battaglia green survive north jersey outdoors
Well, I have found that the Adriatic type figs are quite high on the list of hardiness, but certainly not suitable to fully in ground growing without protection in zone 7-A. I would imagine that you are located in an even colder zone. I think that the more important issue is the lateness of this group of figs. In my opinion, the true Adriatic types (all of them) are quite late and getting them to ripen early enough, and certainly early enough to preserve quality, will be a considerable challenge. If you use my ground bag method, give them a considerable early start, and plant them in a reliable sweet spot against a sun soaking structure, you just might pull it off. Good luck! Lou Monti