FIGS, PERSIMMONS & PAWPAW! RECOMMENDING SOME OF MY FAVORITES! SEPTEMBER 17.
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2019
- A short discussion regarding several of my favorite fig and persimmons trees. Several top persimmons recommendations based on nearly 40 years of personal experience in zone 7-A.
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I ordered a quince tree along with persimmon paw paw and asain pears for this spring here in zone 5 can't wait.
Hello Mr. Monti, thinking of adding a Nikkitas Gift to my backyard, what nursery did you buy it from?? Thanks for your time. Be well!
Beautiful place you have. Will the Nakita's Gift and Rosseyanka Persimmons drop their fruit like the American Persimmons? I planted a Nakita's Gift and Rosseyanka is ordered. Thank you 👍
Hi Lou, can you make video about persimmon varieties what kind you removed from your backyard and explain why? It's will be very helpful for newbies like me. Thank you very much for your great work.
Hi, there! Well, might I suggest that you watch a few of my videos, because I really do cover a lot of ground on the subject of growing persimmon trees. I think that you will find it worth while and I do make some recommendations of my favorite varieties that you should find quite useful. I think that Persimmons trees are wonderful and rewarding and I wish you the very best! Thanks for watching and good luck! Lou Monti
I cannot understand what name you said for the fig at the end of the video? Are you saying, 'caramel unknown?' Thanks.
Hi! Great video! Sorry I'm commenting so late. I am looking to order a Saijo Persimmon tree, especially after your wonderful recommendation and was wondering if May is an awkward time to get a persimmon tree in the ground? Should I wait until a different month will it have transplant shock? Thank you so much and looking forward to more of your videos!😆
Hi, Nicole! This is a good time (May 17th) to plant a Persimmon tree, providing that the tree has been purchased from a local nursery and was kept outside before you purchased it. Good luck! Lou Monti
Lou, I just bought a Fuyu and a Jiro. They are in pots this year and I am waiting for the first Fuyu to ripen. I will pick up a Sajo and Nak it as gift this year based on your recommendations. Can you air layer these or is seed propagation or grafting the only way to propagate?
Great! I'm very glad that you value my advise. I've been growing more than one variety for about 30 years and added quite a few varieties to my collection. I had mixed results with some, and eventually had to discontinue them. Many failed, lasting 4 or 5 years until a very cold winter or an uncontrollable disease killed them. After 30 years, the survivors have proven themselves to be well suited to my climate, productive, extremely delicious, and disease free. Meader, Yates, and Native American, proved to be my best American varieties, Nikita's Gift, my best cross between the American and Japanese persimmons, and Saijo is far and away my very best pure Japanese persimmons tree. I also have the other cross, Rossyankn, and it is very hardy and tasty, but I do not prefer it to Nikita. I am absolutely certain about my recommendations! Other growers may have additional varieties that they may reccomend in zone 7-A or warmer. Take care, and good luck! Lou Monti
What do you think about Rosseyanka? Is Nikita's gift way better?
A difficult answer, if I am to limit my choice to only one. The best native American persimmon tree is probably Yates! My best ever Japanese variety is absolutely, Saijo! Nakita's Gift is my favorite Japanese American Hybrid, closely followed by Rossyanka! It sould be noted that Rossyanka retains a slight astringency which can not be eliminated by any method that I know of. Still, it remains one of the most delicious persimmon varieties that I have ever had the privilege to relish in! Regards, Lou Monti
Hey Lou hows it going? Im seriously debating planting my container figs in ground in the spring in there fabric pots. Do you think the benefit is good enoph to do so? I may even leave them in ground and just cover them for the winter...
Yes, for small trees up to a few years old this method works very well! I've posted several videos where I have discussed my technique in detail. I have had very good results as the trees are highly productive, since their roots are still mostly confined. Additionally, the taste of the figs is superior to those grown completely in containers above ground. Also, the trees are stable in the ground, don't blow over, require far less watering, and are very easy to remove in the fall for Winter storage. You will get earlier figs than fully in ground trees, too, because you can give them an early start in their winter storage quarters. It is truly an effective method! I highly recommend it, as all of my experiences with this technique have proven to be highly successful. Don't forget to cut some one and a half inch holes in the grow bags to allow the roots to reach out for nutrients in the good Earth! Try just a few the first year until you get the hang of it and you are able to determine for yourself if this method is effective in your situation. Good luck! Lou Monti
@@loumonti10 great thats exactly what i will do. Thanks for the reply.!
I've heard many conflicting opinions on hardiness for persimmon. I know American persimmons are fine in my zone as I have seen them wild. However, Hybrids and cold hardy asians have been said to die in my zone, 6a. When buying, they stated hardiness at my zone but many forums disagree. What zone are you? Do you agree they will be safe. I have protected them out of fear but hope when they get bigger they will thrive. I have miss kim, rosseyanka, chocolate, prok, and saijo. Thoughts?
Hi there! In my opinion, saijo is the only safe bet in your zone out of all of the purely Japanese persimmon varieties. Rosseyanka and Nikita's Gift (Japanese American hybrids) will be fine there, too, along with all of the native American and the improved American strains, as well. Good luck! Lou Monti
Miss kim is actually a Korean var. that is supposed to be hardier than saijo. Chocolate is my biggest worry as it isn't considered a cold hardy but I have heard it doesn't do too bad when mature but struggles when small. Which I think can be said about all trees as young trees are more likely to have issues. To be honest I have read that all will have a hard time if it gets too cold for too long like it can in my area unfortunately. Only time will tell. I really lucked out this year cause el nino.@@loumonti10
Paw paw is definitely the next collection I'm going to start I've never eaten one and will probably have to wait a few years before I do Haha anyway I'm so confused everyone says different things so how old are plants before they produce fruit some people say 4 some people say 8 years what do u think?
When I bought my two trees, I was erroneously told that they would pollinate one another. So, for 5 or 6 years I never had a fruit ripen. Then, for many years I carried flowering branches from another variety and placed them in water buckets under my two trees. Then, I started getting plenty of fruit. Years after that, I grafted several other varieties to my trees. Now, I get plenty of fruit. The PawPaw, however, is generally a slow grower and a fruit tree that requires four or five years, perhaps more, before it begins to produce fruit abundantly. Regards, Lou Monti
Which State are u in? I bought so many persimmons trees, now I realize my yard is too small to accommodate all them, judging by how big yours are. I've learned nursery source really matter. Cheap ones died on me. It is really best to buy from reputable nurseries and better if potted, not bare root.
Just for your information:) Since it comes from old Soviet Union, Rosseyanka is a Russian word for Russian girl. In Russian language all words have gender. So it’s the case here as well. The reason I mentioning this is because in US most say it with pronounced “z” sound which kind of means “rosy”.
But it is supposed to be pronounced with hard “S”
The word has nothing to do with roses:)
But of course it’s a free country and you can say it the way your soul pleases to say it. I just thought I mention it:)
Thank you for that interesting information. Also, thank you for watching! Lou Monti
Ive noticed that people who enjoy figs also enjoy persimmons pawpaws and mulberries.
Maybe we enjoy easily perishable fruit that has exquisite flavor unmatched by any hardy fruit with long shelf lives.
Oh the labor of love it takes to appreciate these fruit, but I'm there with you. I have a Fuyu Persimmon tree, 2 pakistani mulberries and 17 fig trees. I love how you talked about not calling figs berry flavored or pawpaws banana custard. Its a petpeeve of mine! A pawpaw tastes just like a dang pawpaw! and a fig? a fig taste like a beautiful wonderful gift from the cosmos itself! My wife often teases me about figs being the forbidden fruit because no other fruit could convince anyone to eat it against Gods will, and looking at my collection of fig varieties.... I might believe it O_o
As far as crop trees that can grow in temperate climates, I'd say Persimmons, Pawpaws, and Figs are my top 3 too! The reason why is simply a process of elimination. They are sweet, soft dessert fruits with relatively large amounts of flesh. And the colder you go, the less common these types get. So in a temperate zone, this is about all you're left with...
I'd throw cherries in there too, but those only grow in a slightly colder climate.
That is a big persimmon. Bark is different than the wild ones in TN.
It is a true American, but slightly modified from Human Selection.
@@loumonti10 , was able to get eat a Paw Paw that I was able to find. First one ever. Was surprised how good it actually was.
These were wild though. Still had the mango, banana ,pineapple taste.
Persimmons were perfect ripe .Had a rich caramel type taste and no bitter. Different from the ones around where I live.
Hey Lou why did my figs get hard. They Didn’t want to grow anymore. I had a hot summer as well watered them daily when needed. I had about 60 figs on Hardy Chicago. I decided maybe I shouldn’t have pulled many of them off to see if I could get a few to ripen. Now I only see one that’s actually growing properly and fast. Any suggestions?
Are you sure that you watered deep enough?
A couple of times I missed watering but I mainly watered almost everyday due to the heat we had this summer
Thanks for this video. I have quite a few figs. But like you say, I'm always wondering if I will get to eat any. What is an early variety you would recommend. I have JH Adriatic, some unknown which are probably Celeste, yellow long neck, tiger panache, and one other I can't remember at the moment. My trees are young so I'm hoping they'll fruit earlier as they mature. I'm in zone 7B North Carolina so all my trees are in ground. I think my favorite is JH Adriatic.
One more question. I purchased two Paw Paw trees. One didn't make it through this summer. Do you think I should get some seeds to try to get a second variety or should I purchase another plant?
Well, I'll answer your last question first. I would recommend buying a well established Pawpaw tree. They are slow growing, especially from seed, and often take several years or more to fruit. As for figs, you live in a fairly good zone for growing figs. Still, you must choose cold hardy varieties. I, too, have many varieties growing in 7-B at one of my properties there, growing in ground. I would certainly add Ronde De Bordeaux to your collection and also positively identify Celeste in your collection. Celeste is very successful in your zone. I would certainly advise you to remove Yellow Long Neck and Tiger Panache from your in ground collection there, unless you are willing to use a very successful Winter protection technique.
@@loumonti10 thanks!!
@@Iloveorganicgardening where are you in NC ? I am in Bertie County.
@@TheNCGardener I'm in Iredell County just north of Charlotte
@@TheNCGardener I looked up your county and it looks like it's over a four hour drive and we probably have a very similar climate