Nikon D780 (vs Nikon Z6) - Life Still Left in DSLRs?
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At this point I’m not that interested in the cameras I just find Kai’s voice therapeutic.
got similar :D
I couldn't say it better myself! Cameras are just a tool and the whole industry is going to be such a niche anyway. What makes Kai so great in the past was the entertaining value of his videos. There're tons of channels on RUclips that makes review of any gear they could find but the reality is less and less people care about it for real now.
honestly sht calms me down at work
True
same..
I think DSLR's deserve a space in the future. Fujifilm has done great things with their hybrid viewfinders but I think there's something special about a DSLR optical viewfinder
I don't understand why manufacturers can't make a DSLR style OVF with an EVF also built in.
As for Fuji's 'rangefinders', I'd be a lot more impressed if there were mechanical coupling for focusing optically. Unfortunately, the focusing aid is only coupled electronically so it's worthless with adapted lenses and can pretty easily get out of sync.
Pentax has patented one
@@ShutterKnack And so has Nikon. But they never actually made one
@@bosstowndynamics5488 based off of how much it cost me to replace the EVF on my Sony, I'd say about $100.
I imagine that a big part of what increases the D780s cost is just the limited number of cameras they're expecting to sell. Still- for $800 more, I'd buy a dual mirrorless/DSLR. I honestly prefer DSLRs for a lot of event and some studio work that I do but the mirrorless is undeniably nicer for some situations
@@bosstowndynamics5488 I'm fairly confident that Nikon released the 780, already knowing that it would sell in limited numbers.
I can't speak for others but for a long time, I've wanted a camera that had both options available.
Come on Nikon! All we really want is the Df2
I love my silver DF and was thinking of getting a black one as well
Darcey James and a D700S 😄
am with you mate, definitely need one
I had to return mine due to focusing issues. But its the exact camera i want, due to its weight, size.
Z6 i would have to buy lenses.
Mirrorless eat batteries as they have to run sensor constantly for the evf or screen, whereas a DSLR will just let the light through to the view finder with lots of the camera switched off. Until they solve that issue properly the DSLR is here to stay.
In theory yes. In practice, it's not been a problem for me when switching from DSLR to mirrorless. I usually shoot 2000 shots at an event
@@kierenkd At one event, try travelling with one only to find it's out of battery as you take a once in a lifetime shot, when you know even your old DSLR would still be holding a charge.
You can change that on the Z6 if you don't need the live view. The EVF only turns on if you look through it. It will use more power than the DSLR but you will get more out of it.
...no...they only have to run < 1MP of the sensor and only when there's something in front of the camera, that's bright enough, for it to focus on. They don't have to do that "constantly" just once a second or so. Switching to higher frame rates when "in use". Doesn't take much power to do this. Doesn't have a zillion apps running in the background using 5D and WiFi and other networking and connectivity features. I'm sure that there is more to it than what I'm saying but probably not as much as you're saying. I charge my DSLRs and they sit on the shelves for a while, but usually they're still largely charged whenever I pick them up. Same for my Canon G1X, it will sit idle and hold charge forever. Only really the smallest cheapest cameras that I own like the Sony RX100s have to be recharged before use.
"Tech twaddle for posh plastic" is the best description of poly-carbonite that I've ever heard. brilliant.
I am sticking with DSLRs for a while. They just feel better to me.
Same here. My D3400 is enough for me right now. I'm planning to get a Z50 just for videos but probably 3 yeas later.
100%
I regretted getting a Sony a6000 tbh
dslr battery lasts longer if just using ovf, and has cheaper glass, but if budgets allowed I prefer mirrorless
same here.. "old fat aunty" still feel better for me... ^^^
Being Old School, I still prefer Optical Viewfinder Vs. Electronic ones. The feel is important. Again the Mirrorless Cameras feel like Toys.
💯
I finally settled on the D780 after years of looking for an upgrade to my D7100. This camera hit the mark with me for a full frame upgrade from the APS-C world. I love it and am looking forward to the Spring and Summer season enjoying photography, again.
not sure why you'd get a D780 instead of a D750 for probably half the price used on eBay
@@touristguy87, the D780 is essentially a Z6 in terms of specs and functions. The D750 is a fine camera, but the D780 is more advanced. Been using it and I’m happy and satisfied. This is most likely my last camera unless something unfortunate happens to it. I looked at the D750, but decided to go a step beyond. Worth every penny.
@@Macjohn1419 ...I have a D300s, a D610, a D750 and a D850. The D850 is the most-used of the 4 by a significant amount, it's easily in the Voyager Zone, close to its expected shutter lifetime, but still I find myself using it a significant percentage of the time that I shoot one of the four, because in general it performs the best and has twice the MP of the D750 and D610. So in general I would say that the D750 is equivalent to the D850 except for the resolution advantage of the D850, and conversely in terms of speed of processing and the risk of taking it out and shooting it in terms of physical damage and cost of repair or replacement. When I got the D750 I was able to find plenty of them on eBay and I got a nice virtually-new US market one for about $400 body-only. I literally have only shot it a handful of times, mainly shooting some golf videos in afternoon light. I'm getting somewhere with this.I tend to shoot the D850 whenever I think that I might repeat MIGHT benefit from the extra resolution, which honestly is often since it takes near-real photos as a benefit of having a better sensor than the D750 in terms of SNR as well as the higher MP.
But recently I have discovered and tried to resolve a problem that the D850 has relative to even my Google Pixel 6a cellphone, which is a standout unit when it comes to HDR shooting, standing head and shoulders above all my DSLR gear in HDR scenes. I have tried to mimic the results with my D850 but I have found that it has a significant handicap.The 6a will not try to blend images that it normally takes at about 1/3000sec but which would introduce blur when blended (due to positional error, or alignment error if you want to call it that. It will just throw a complex graduated filter on one image. The D850 doesn't have that level of sophistication, not even using D-lighting. When shot in HDR mode, it *always* tries to blend at least two images, and that almost always introduces blur in the composite when shooting outdoors and/or shooting handheld, increasing amounts of blur with increasing focal-length. It's still noticeable at short focal-lengths though I suspect that it does, or can, ignore most of one shot and base the composite mostly on the other shot. So the less of the shot that is moving around in the wind, etc, the less blurring that you'll see. But it's rarely if ever so sharp that you can't really see any blur.
I was just wondering if you've noticed that shooting HDR blending in the camera, if you've ever tried to shoot HDR blending in the camera. I just checked my D750 to see if it supports HDR blending in the camera but so far I don't see that it does, the menu option that is in the D850 is just not there in the D750 with the latest bios (as of April '25). It will bracket but not blend in the camera. The blending does produce good results in my D850 in mid to low lighting conditions, sometimes better than my Pixel 6a. So it's not a lost cause in the D850, but it's so often so much better in the Pixel 6a. Though Google seems to have recently removed the option to switch between matrix and CWA metering meaning it will occasionally get the exposure wrong. Usually I get better results shooting with the 6a in HDR mode, obviously it carries a 15-50mm lens on the front and is multi-function in a much smaller, lighter package. I haven't tried even a 2x optical converter on the front of it. But it won't take a 28-300 lens, that's for sure. But paradoxically the D750 is now somewhat less of a target for thieves than my cellphone is. I've twice had guys try to walk up behind me and snatch a camera out of my hands. It amazes me that not just one guy but two would be that crazy, but literally what are you going to do to them...they stood there looking at me and laughing. You're carrying a $1k camera in your hands...what are you going to do to someone who tries to steal it out of your hands on a busy street and fails because they didn't stab or shoot you with one hand and try to take the camera with the other hand and run away. But if they wanted your cellphone they would just walk up to you with a knife or a gun and tell you to give it to them. Without video of them trying to rob you, the police won't even shrug their shoulders at your complaint especially if they don't actually rob you.
The world is a little-bit fucked-up when it comes to street crime, and I'd much rather have a street thief steal an old DSLR off me than a new cellphone. So the less that I have to shoot my 6a to get a good shot, the happier I am. Especially if I can transfer shots from the DSLR to the cellphone wirelessly in the background. The ideal DSLR for me to use in this situation would be the D610 as it is the worst in terms of performance and the cheapest and easiest of my FFs to replace but of course that means that it's the most difficult to get to take good photos and share photos to my phone. Ah. well :)
The D750 is an awesome camera other than that one issue, no question. But I need to put more time into my D610 to see if it's worth shooting at all given the other three, as the D300s is quite handy as a jack-of-all-trades DSLR for $50 on eBay. Especially given the 6a in my pocket with a nice 15mm-25mm effective lens on it.
The D750 wasn’t bad...sure there were some recalls but as a whole, not bad...if this body can live up to its predecessor then ok...I just don’t like that price point:-(
If price is the issue then there’s not much reason to get the D780 when the D750 is so similar for half the price.
@@marcd7332 d750 is awesome. but d780 has sensor display, eye focusing and focus peaking which d750 does not have. AND good old F mount.
of course it's up to every person wheather to move or not, but I would move.
Awesome review! Mirrorless is impressive, but I think DSLRs will still hang around for a few years.
I agree. I'm in the market for a Digital SLR and mirrorless makes my decision hard lol.
Why do I watch these, knowing that I'm broke.
Because Kai's accent is free.
It's called camera porn I believe...
Because: second hand!
because there are incredible savings on DSLR gear on eBay
Live view tracking implementation has been greatly improved on Z6 with FW 3.00
"Tech twaddle for posh plastic"
Excellent sir!
Kai, you make my day. I would love to hang out with you one day. Thank you for all you do brother! I appreciate you and the knowledge you imbue. Always love watching your videos. If you and Lok ever in my neck of the woods then lets hang and nerd out my bro.
I feel like I’m back in high school before my first camera and Kai is talking about a Nikon 7xx series. This was how I spent my youth about cameras
1:39 Those are the Masterlock Street Cuffs bicycle locks.
I'll guess the owner gotten problems with the locking cylinder, that thing is a diva and known to get stuck and stay locked even if you got the key.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 No, that's the short, one chain link variant of them. They rotate and swivel on the joints to the actual lock bodies.
Thanks Kai for exactly the review I was looking for. I'm a D750 user but bought Z6 instead of D780. Main decision is going forward I will be collecting Z mount lenses rather than F mount.
I really considered the D780 as a partner to my Z6 for wedding photography but went for a second Z6 in the end. After the v3 firmware on the Z6, there’s just no place for a DSLR in my bag. Believe me, 6 months ago there’s no way I would have thought I’d go fully mirrorless but I’m all in now!
Reasons?
Just received my D780 and I’m loving it right now! Great video, keep them coming.
Marketing has brainwashed everyone that mirrorless is the future. DSLRs for life!
Now with the USB charging for everything, it doesn't matter aside from how you want your clients to see you - like wearing a suit and a tie or just a businessy woven jacket. I prefer a lighter and smaller profile these days since I never do anything to do with bokeh so my need for FF are long gone.
It'll be a loooong time before I stop using my D500.
I'm really considering d500
But really like d780
Firmware 3 has really improved the Z6 tracking to where it really can be made to behave like 3D tracking if you remap F1 or F2.
Everyone is doing mirrorless but hybrids like this d780 and the soon to be released d880 will be the future for pros. No lag no tiny tv screen…
AF-D lenses are DEFINITELY faster to focus than AF-G lenses in my experience, at least on my D-850. My theory is that there's just so much glass in high-end lenses that an ultrasonic motor doesn't have the torque to push the elements around like a screw-focus system can. This is true with my N90s and and F100 that I tried, too
Agreed. Not sure where this thought that AF-D are slow. I suspect Mr Rockwell had something to do with that. The 135 f2 AF-D is a fantastic lens for sports!
Agreed. And I LOVE the colours! There are sharper lenses out there, and with less aberrations, but the images I got with AF-D a d AI lenses are simply beautiful.
I think AFD lenses are faster than AFS on older, less premium lens. On premium lenses, AFS are often faster, except for a few prime lenses. Image quality wise, most AFD lens have trouble keeping up with the newer design as well.
Darcey James well there is slow af-d glass / my 80-200 2.8 is slow like a slug / the primes are awesome though: got the 20 2.8 / 24.28 / 35.2.0 / 50 1.4 / 105 / 2.0 dc / 180 2.8 / 60 2.8 micro / 105 2.8 micro / 200 4.0 micro / all great lenses. Can’t wait for Sony and Chelsony to babble more about Sony so that more people Sell do their telephoto Nikkor primes for cheap!
D850 probably has a higher torque motor than other bodies, and certain variation of lenses could be geared differently.
When it comes to stills, people can still take shitty photos with the most cutting edge mirrorless cameras and lenses. On the other hand, most DSLRs today have enough technology to capture amazing photos. People need to focus more on their techniques and skills.
Yeah, most phones today also have enough technology to capture amazing photos too.
@@trym2121 No, they take nice pictures, but they don't take good photos.
..Joe
@@jagerardi if people can still take great photo with old cameras. Then there's no reason not to take great photo with phone. There's no ultimate camera, only a good photographer as the best camera is the one you bring with you
most DSLRs from 2012 have enough technology to capture amazing images.
@@trym2121 smartphone, no matter how latest version it is, has tons of limitations, you can take a great image, but far from always the image you have in mind. I lost count how many times I wish I had my DSLR on me.
Why do amateur photographers obsess so much about mirrorless or not? They both have their place. I prefer the optical vf and much longer battery life of the dslr, while I like the video capabailities of the sony series (which has nothing to do with mirrorless) and the compact size with a pancake lens for street/travel.
For anything with 'pro' lenses the size difference is negligible.
The DSLR vs mirrorless debate is headed the same direction where manual transmission vs automatic ended up. I am going to side with DSLR for the same reason I side with manual transmissions - it feels more real.
DSLR still got life in them? Hell yeah.
DSLR got:
-battery life
-optical finder not cluttered with shit
-reliable AF
-lightning speed startup time
-coolest shutter sound
Mirrorless got:
-Small (but with huge ass lenses for some reason), silent
For most purposes I still go for a DSLR.
Plus the value you get for the money on the second hand market...no comparison.
Love this for all the reasons that you stated in this video. Plus, with trade-in and a nice rebate from Nikon I paid $1,450 just outside of Chicago.
Nathaniel Cash Jr. what did you trade in?
People in 2015: Mirrorless will fail soon
People in 2020: DSLR is dead
Pretty quick to change minds
Reason: Sony
When you remember how many million DSLRs are out there they ain't dead yet. Yes we know mirrorless is here but not everyone wants or needs to jump ship in 2020.
Sony and Fujifilm pretty much kicked Mirrorless into workhorse territory. There is no going back.
Nikon is one of the first introduce mirrorless which is those famous 1 camera. It is a shame.
@bracikmen My Tesla wears the well known "FK Greta" Sticker on the bumper
If I hadn't just bought a new camera, I'd honestly be really tempted to buy one of these and use it with my aging 85 1.4 D lens. That aging 85 is still my favorite FF portrait lens.
An actual good result at the end. Your 100% right. Just because it works for someone doesn’t mean it works for everyone. I think it’s important to try them like you have, not just in a camera store.
I like having the pop up flash in my D810. It does not get used a lot but it is useful to have for very low light or some indoor or outdoor fill light. I am not in the habit of carrying my bulky Godox flash around with me.
I'm struggling with the same concept as I consider upgrading my body. I hate to lose the occasional convenience of the pop-up flash.
I wish this camera was released last year. I was a Nikon shooter (D750) but I really wanted to change things up and I fell in love with a Fujifilm X-T3 and it’s lens lineup. So I sold it all. I do miss the battery life and the optical viewfinder. But damn, everything I get out of the Fuji looks spectacular SOC. It was a no brainer last year. This year, Nikon releases this and the decision is a bit muddled with “What If’s”.
For 2200 pound you can buy 2 in very good condition .Nikon D4 cameras with very low shutter actuations.
Among Nikon fans the D750 is very well regarded even to day its a dream camera for many. It’s often cited as one of the best in the Nikon range for low light. However I didn’t find it would focus at all well in low light on a moving subject and the focus area was very much in the middle of the view finder. How does the D780 and D6/7 compare in this respect? The sanitary towel focus area looks similar but could cover a bigger area?
Optical viewfinders are nice to look through. For all the pros of the EVF's, for l8ng sessions they put a strain on my eyes and the experience in general is less relaxed. I do hope someone decides to keep making DSLRs, even if that means settling for lesser specs, but then I did get a Sony A900 to complement my other cameras so we all know I'm a bit daft
Excellent review, as enjoyable to watch as those of the golden times at DRTV
I still love the feeling of my D750 and the pictures I get from it!! The Z-Series seems pretty tempting but I wouldn't want to use huge lenses on those "small" bodies and getting a whole day shooting without one battery change is also a really nice plus for me. Although I bought a X100f for streets a year ago 😅🙈
Love the D750 and upgraded to the Z6. It's worth looking in too.
@@JohanTalk
I'm looking at a 750, 780, or Z5.
How much better is the Z6 compared to the 750? I'm mainly asking in terms of battery life, partially a reason why I still appreciate DSLRs.
Hope Dslrs stay alive
I second that!!
@@DominationZoneTV the OVF is a plus, I shoot birds of prey in flight 99% of the time and I can't find a milc that is comfortable with a 500mm lens and the focusing and tracking can't compete with my D500..If I didn't shoot bif mainly I might would consider milc
@@DominationZoneTV For me it's the fact that I see what the lens sees. I like that, no lag. Secondly, my eyes don't hurt after extended shooting. I'd like a mirrorless camera as my secondary body for limited use and video, but when I go on a photo shoot where I take 1000 and more photos, I prefer my DSLR. Eye strain doesn't exist and the battery life is no worry. I also hope DSLRs stay. I like both technologies.
@@DominationZoneTV I don't know about him i have a lot of money invested in glass.. and besides i'm good with a DSLR.. I mean i have one Mirrorless but that's a fixed lens
Even if the market vanishes suddenly a good unit purchased now seems to last an incredibly long time. Some people seemingly still using D700 units over a decade after launch.
why buy a dslr in 2020? because its what i want. Im used to dslr. my lenses fit dslr without having to purchase an adapter, etc etc.
:) ME LIKES DSLR.
thx for breaking out the older, yet still amazing, nikkor 85mm f1.4 D. I've had mine for so many years and it still does such wonderful photos.
This explains why there isn't an FTZ adapter with an AF motor, I suppose.
Just did a few portrait shoots with the D780 and 85mm 1.4D. I love the look that lens gives and it is why I am sticking to F mount glass.
I see a split in cameras. DSLR's are optimized for high speed still image photography that can capture video, whereas a mirrorless camera is optimized to capture video and is capable of still image photography. At least that's how I think of it.
Love the sense of humor. Becoming one of my favs on YT.
One of the things I really miss in my mirrorless cameras is the mirror+shutter sound. This may sound really stupid, but one of the reasons I ended up choosing Nikon over Canon when first starting out was the confident, sharp, smart clack of the mirror + mechanical shutter in the D7000. All of the Canon DSLRs I tried out had a sort of sloppy floppy sound.
Mirrorless cameras take the slop and flop to the next level and usually sound like slapping a wet roll of toilet paper against a sponge.
What a difference 4 weeks makes, what are the same streets like now? Empty!
Thumbs up for the picture of you with the brown hat.
I am doing photography since 2012 & I bought D5100 after watching Kai's review on DegRevTV.
Since then I am using Nikon. From D5100 - D750- D810 & in 2018 I finally bought D850 & D5600. I sold D750 & D810 but D5100 still remains with me as my first camera.
Now in 2021, I have D850, D5600 & D5100. I use D5600 for travel, street stuff because it feels like mirrorless. Lightweight & Compact with 35mm dx lens.
D850 I use for weddings & fashion with 85 1.4, 50 1.4 nikon & tamron 24-70 2.8.
While my setup is not for video, so I am in a confusion whether it is time to buy a mirrorless for secondary camera or stick with dslr like D780? I can't convert to sony or canon because I have all nikon lenses.
The biggest thing is that you don't need 5-10 batteries to take photos in a day. 1-3 batteries are more than enough. That and the instantaneous optical viewfinder compared to the slight lag in evf.
Dude 310 shoots for the Z6? I had a shoot today and I took about 1200 shots and my battery is maybe just under 50% :D
The battery rating is always on the low-end. I'd expect the D780 to do double its rated shots. So, still way ahead of the Z6.
You must be shooting on "prioritize view finder" mode, i guess you will get a lot lesser if you try "monitor only" mode.
He's just quoting the official numbers for comparison
@@OkwyUgonweze I almost only shoot Monitor Only mode ^^
@@definedphotography the D780 has 8 times more battery than the Z6
@Kai did you check out the new firmware update for nikon z6 they've updated the way you can use subject tracking by setting up on fn 1/2 button so you can now switch it on whenever you want very intuitive to use when you get a hang of it!
For someone new to the system or shooting mainly video, Z-system would be a much better choice. But if you own a large number of F-lens, or which to find cheaper lens, then the dSLR is a better option, at least not with the pricey D780. F-mount lenses is looking like the Sony A-mount lenses, lots of choices and going at affordable price.
As a Nikon dSLR user for the past 10+ years, I do feel that we are moving towards mirrorless, just a matter of time.
Mirrorless is better for over-all lens choices and video, but the D780 is better for using AF-D lenses. However, most people buy AF-S lenses for VR and other desirable modern goodies, so for the majority, mirrorless is the better choice.
But some of us do silly things, like shoot film on old manual cameras, and so AF-D lenses are an essential choice, and a traditional DSLR is a good choice. So I am glad there are cameras like the D780. It is so we can do silly things, like share our old lenses with old film cameras.
I mostly agree with Kai, but it also shows the issue with D780. It is just too similar compared to D750 for OVF shooting. I don't know a new exposure sensor and "D5 AF algorithm" is good enough for many people. Not to mention you lost pop up flash and the option for grip.
I think if they have the D5 AF system then at least there are some meaningful upgrades compared to D750.
I know they are very good cameras. I used to own and shoot several of them.
HOWEVER, after it was released, I got my first Z6 followed by several Z lenses.
Because of it, I sold ALL my DSLRs and lenses.
This nut is NOT going back to mirrors!
I will still watch your videos Kai.
I prefer the size and shape of DSLRs so if they make a mirrorless camera in a DSLRs body I'll buy it. Plus it should have more space to fit dual cards and all the bells and whistles
Mike Cunningham totally agree. Especially with glass as big as the RF line. A body with enough grip and weight to counter balance with would be very welcome.
I think the idea that cameras go "obsolete" is a bit of a misconception. It's not so much that they go obsolete, but rather than they just don't fulfill your needs as you grow and progress as a photographer. If all you do is take snapshots and don't really care about IQ or printing, then a 10+ year old camera is still relevant for you because it does what you want it to do. I just picked up a Pansonic GF1 the other day for $60. By today's standards yeah it's obsolete but it still takes pictures, so I don't really consider it to be obsolete. Yes it lacks some of the latest features of the modern cameras, but I don't think cameras really go "obsolete". What one may consider "obsolete" another may say it's plenty and still relevant. I think the key is to find a camera that works for you, whether that's the latest and greatest because you're constantly pushing the boundaries of certain genres like sports or wildlife, or a 5-10 year old camera if you do landscapes or portraiture. (And the other thing is I think people feel that obsolete means "doesn't work" as in you can't use it -- for the most part, this isn't true and why I feel cameras and lenses don't really go obsolete they'll keep working as long as you take care of them even after the mfr has long since stopped supporting them or even selling them.).
Funny how some people bash DSLR's but push old film cameras or worse yet smartphone cameras, what I consider the worst thing that you can use for photography.
A little late for me to comment, but I'm glad that I'm not the only one that prefers the OVFs of a DSLR over an EVF. Shooting with an OVF has become a part of me, and mirrorless just doesn't feel the same. I hope that DSLRs will continue to be manufactured by the big brands for another decade (extremely unlikely).
Thanks! The exact video I need. I was planning to get an entry level full frame Nikon by the end of the year.
@@itsacookie1 Already got a bunch of Nikon lens... too cheap to switch system at my current financial situation... Probably would switch to Sony, had I gotten the $$ to rebuy all the lens...
Currently own Oly and Sony mirrorless bodies, but I do miss handling a Nikon DSLR. Definitely not worth ”upgrading” to mirrorless for most of casual users.
Great video Kai, you should test more dslrs like older models to see how they compare. I might switch from canon 200d to a nikon d750 or z6
Kai, I don't know if you have ever considered that but as you move a lot in your videos and are basically showing movement , i think 60fps content would be very much enjoyed versus 4k shooting. I don't know if other people would agree but sometimes you make big movements and the video suddenly feels stuttery
I love the auto-focus/eye auto-focus tech on the new mirrorless cameras. But they just eat up power. I have enough power anxiety from my phone, laptop and tablet. I'm sticking with my DSLR until the battery on mirrorless are on par with DSLRs
Canon & Nikon should make 1 good prosumer-level DSLR every other year.
Some of us just prefer that optical finder & heft.
When they’re in live-view/mirrorless mode, they work nicely anyway.
I shoot a D750 and I love it. I'm not at all interested in the D780 though, primarily for one reason: no vertical group. I love the vertical grip on my D750 and almost never take it off except to swap out batteries. Plus...that pricetag...ouch....
I love my DSLR. Haven’t had no interest in jumping on the mirrorless band wagon yet.
I jumped on the mirrorless bandwagon a few years back, man, did I regret it. Switched back to dslr and can’t imagine switching over to mirrorless.
@@bb3866 what didn't you like? Im still a dslr fan, it just gets out of the way imo.
I agree. I would much rather have a DSLR.
we know.. D500!!
@@madphotographer762 what is a D500? ...lol
If I were shooting video consistently I'd go mirrorless, that's literally the only advantage a mirrorless camera has. I want to say IBIS is a factor too but it's not. Its only a factor if you add in the weight savings + IBIS b/c you need weight to balance slow shutter speeds without IBIS and add in lens stabilization.
Been out of the camera game for awhile. Still shooting on a Canon 40D. Mainly shot sports so I wonder if mirrorless will ever take off in that space.
They are decent now, at least outdoor/ daylight. Not so sure for lower light sports (switched from Nikon d7k to fuji xt30)
@@kierenkd Most of the sports I still shoot is typically in good light but very fast action. Still getting good quality from my current setup most likely thanks to the L series Canon 70-200 2.8 I mainly use. Nikon has been tempting because of that 3D focus tracking they have been using since the D3.
@@CPowell133 I shoot althetics - so not that fast relatively speaking and quite predictable (not like football or tennis where the subjects can be all over the place. I kept my Nikon 80-200 F2.8 - it's a beast but excellent. Hopefully I can manual focus and get some keepers. Only shooting for fun now, so not a problem if keeper rate is low.
AF-D lens with AF and face detection + eye detection (live view).... Either nikon release an adapter to enable AF function of these AF-D lens for their Z system or I'll buy another DSLR. Also I preffer to have the options to see what I should get and what I'm getting (OVF & EVF/live view). Also the battery life. The D850 upgrade would be interesting.
Video got really, really warpy at 8:00 with the wide-angle lens.
John Drummond good its not just me I thought I was having a flashback 😆
I think as long as we have a massive eco system of good lenses for DSLRs it will take a decade or two to die out.
Kitz Milar Amago has film ‘died out’? DSLRs will never die, but newer products will become less and less. I still recon that’s about 20 years away though.
6:21... I feel like that guy pushed in to you and you had to edit it out
Also had they released a Nikon Df2, I would have bought it already...
If they made a dfz, I might've
Hugh Jass Studios or Zf
it's called a xt-3
@@286mic not xt4?
@@286mic Nope Df and Z are FULL FRAME for full frame lenses
This is on sale now
Hi, just subscribed to your channel, great to find one based in the UK, great channel informative and funny, regards Graham.
until shots per charge is around the same of a DSLR, I'm not going to mirrorless. Possibly, and I hope, in the future, if nikon created a mirrorless camera with at least 1500-2000 shots per charge, I'll get it then.
Have you tried the Z6 or Z7 since the new Firmware 3.0, I bet not.
On question is how many working photographers, that already own a variety of old and new glass, have ever had an SD card die on them, and need to do more stills than video will go Z6 over D780. I know which line I'm getting in.
4:33 decent looking!! bout time! Been to that Hat shop too!
Great Job Kai.
Sanitary towel shaped layout... That made me giggle :)
I like the wide shot of the city on this Nikon vlog review.
I have my D5200 still, looking to upgrade as this body is rather at it's end. It needs either serious maintenance or just toss it and get something better. I was initially looking at the D750 and D810, mostly because the D850 is too expensive. But this is a brand new option I didn't even know about until about a hour ago. So far, this has my vote as it looks so far to be the far better option. It even seems to have far less the static noise issue then the D5 mark 3, by far. Still doing some research before I decide what to do, I do have to figure out something fast as I can't really do much at all atm.
There is no question about it-F-mount lenses work better, look better, and feel better on the SLR mount they were designed for. With small primes you can get away with the FTZ, but professional zooms or super telephoto primes will just be goofy mounted on the Z system, and too front heavy to feel good when taking the camera around.
Either way, those are two fabulous cameras. Nikon's latest generation cameras are absolutely stunning for picture quality, and I would be happy with either system as long as I had Z lenses for the Zs and Fs for the Fs. I tried a Z6 but decided not to switch over yet, still very happy with my F mount lenses.
I tried mirrorless for a while but went back to DSLR's with the brilliant Pentax KP 😀
Would love to purchase this alongside the Nikon Z5 or the Nikon Z5 Mark 2 and the Nikon D5600
He never talked about the live view of D780. It focusses as good as the Z6's live view. The D780 is a hybrid camera a DSLR/Mirrorless.
Why get a Mirrorless that feels like a plastic toy in your hand when you can get a DSLR that sticks in the hand like a glove? I will stick with DLSR until Nikon make a mirrorless that is the same size as a Nikon DSLR.
The lens
nobody cares
The z6 and z7 actually feel really good in your hands (specially compared to sony). I switched from the D500 to the z6 and couldnt be happier. Only thing i wish was better was the battery life.
Dang I thought I was finally going to get that afd video af test I've been waiting for
5:13 Nikon changed that on newest firmware! Right now IT works like 3d traking!.
Thank you so much for the video. I’m planning to purchase my very first DSLR which is Nikon D750 along with 85mm 1.8 + 50mm 1.8 G lens. I’m wondering is it still worth to buy this camera considering 5 years old?.
The concern I have from D750 is - 1. Slower AF, 2. Shutter speed of 1/4000 which is half the D780/Z6ii/Z5. Are these show stopper for D750?.
Purpose of buying a camera is for taking Portraits, Still, Landscape, Bird, Product photography (learning) and of course my kids.
It would be really great if you throw some lights on my concern to make a wise decision.... other options I have considered is Nikon D780 with one of the lens and Z6ii with the kit lens... apart from D780 and Z6ii I have been suggesting to go with D850 with the kit lens.
Thank you and looking forward to your recommendation.
Whats with the tap sound in the background? Drives me nuts!
I still waiting D6. Even it doesn’t has IBIS
Thanks, Kai!
Is the warpy the street footage the result of rolling shutter or warp stabilizer in post??
2200 shots vs 300 but lets just brush that fact aside to talk about everything else.
3:44 - Kinda want the GUCCI!
You are the best camera reviewer on you tube and i will prob get a 780 soon