My first 3D printer is this printer, and I'll be putting it together for the first time today. Thank you for being one of the few 'tubers that are addressing this model specifically
@@YippeePlopFork mine is still stock. No mods. No upgrades. I had a HUGE problem with bed height. The first 6 months I had it, I couldn't figure out how to prevent tool collisions with the bed. I ended up finding some gCode to fix the z-offset, and no more tool crashes. Now I'm struggling with bed adhesion. The edges of my prints curl up. The head will collide with the curled print and break the print free, or cause the belt to skip this printing the remaining layers at an offset. Are these problems with the printer? Only if the operator doesn't know how to resolve them. And a year later, I'm still learning to resolve things... But that's true of any printer, it seems
I installed on my Ender 5 Plus with Hemera DD. The only issue I had was squaring the Y axis gantry. I ended up loosening the y coupler and made it supper easy to square. Really happy with this.
I have exoslide kit on my Ender 5, the most difficult part was getting my custom cooling to fit back on. My old part didn’t drill nice like yours. I ended up customizing the part and printing a new one with a hole for that screw head.
Great video Kris! Thanks taking the time to detail the proper ExoSlide tensioning as well (just a slight drag is needed if you don't have calipers). Looking forward to how the Ender 5 Plus printer further evolves!
Just wanted to add to this for anyone that receives the ExoSlide kit, the parts you receive will be slightly different than what Kris has here in the video. ExoSlide just updated some of the parts in their current kits so you will have some things different.
Thanks for taking the time to do such a through and well thought out review. I read the other comments before posting this and agree that this is not a required mod. This is for the user who wants to improve their printer and can afford upgrades, not everyone can and I understand that. To me the beauty of the Ender series is the vast number of upgrades and replacement parts that are easily purchased and the great user community that will provide help. I went with your linear rails on all of my Enders and have been impressed with the reduced maintenance and improved reliability. I think I would have tried this if I had seen your video first. Excited to see your other mods for the 5 Plus, interested in your comment about better drive motors. Keep it up Kris!!
I installed mine today. A few changes to the kit have been made. the metal parts are more refined. Corner pieces are not included any more, The newer Ender 5 has metal brackets. All in all a great upgrade. much quieter and I think a smother operation.
I modified my exoslide for a micro swiss hot end and direct drive, exoslide said that had not been tested but I did it anyway. The wheels on the 40mm brackets did wear out from (I believe) the extra forward weight. Now I have the 40mm wheels (wheel covers) taken off all of them and so far all is good and I didn't notice any extra noise or any change in the prints. I will update in a few months again.
I use the iFix it tool kit. A very similar tool kit to yours. I use mine all the time. Plus I use a socket set and a Box wrench set. I al use a Duracell Head lamp. Sometimes I need to use my DeWalt Drill Driver to get apart stuck screws. I also bought some Screw kits from Amazon. A Grub screw kit and a regular Hex or torx hed screw set. Good to have extras around.
I'd be curious to see the print quality running at 120-140 mm/s and see if there's a difference. I'd think that this is where something like this may come out ahead due to it's rigidity.
First, I mentioned other reasons to upgrade rather than print quality improvement. To your question though, it really depends on what you're chasing. Do you want to continue modding to chase those last details? As I mentioned in my conclusion, other mods I'm doing down the road may help this mod to be utilized further.
Normal PLA temp is around 190-210, so 220 may be out of the range the printer was tuned for. I think you should re PID tune your machine. There are videos on how to do it or here's a guide: 3daddict.com/pid-tune-3d-printer/ Just PID tune for your average print temperature.
Covered this very well, nice to see, as another e5p owner. Doing a great job, subscriber base +1 :) Looking forward to some build/reviews for kay3d's core-xy kit for e5p before I decide what to do next with mine...
@@kerseyfabs yes for sure that one is a huge roll up sleeves overhaul, totally get you there. Yep, sometimes its nice to just have machines ready to deliver good prints :) Still, an interesting one and nice that it takes it to a totally different place, hopefully with improvement to match the effort but who knows.. anyway it's bad choice for a printer you intend to use anytime soon! Keep well and making excellent content.
On the X-axis motor mount, I am wondering if one would not be better off moving it to the back of the extrusion and mounting the motor from the other side(facing forward rather than backward). That would balance(somewhat) the mass front to back with the hot end(and extruder on direct drive setups) on one side and the motor on the other. I do not believe that there is a clearance issue. You would need to reverse the direction that the motor runs in your firmware.
That's not a bad idea for balance. I don't know if you'd see a difference in performance though. The ExoSlides, extrusions, and mounting are really rigid.
@@kerseyfabs Thinking more long term about all the mass on the front wearing on the front "rollers" more than the back. I suspect that IF there is an issue it probably would not show up unless you have a direct drive unit.
@@kerseyfabs Kris great job, I have a 5+ and wanting to go to a direct drive solution and this mod looks like it addresses my needs. Curious how the + deals with the additional weight of DD? semi concerned about the extra weight and deflection of the 2020 X bar and the inertia created by the extra length or if i am making to much of it. Also curious about what material (PLA or PETG) you are printing your mod's from.
yeah, I'm interested in the exoslide but the original def looks better. I wonder if you remove the fans and do a fan pump-blower tube running to it? That'd be an easy mod to do and I'd love to see the quality difference in that.
Ive been looking at a better rail solution to my 5+ for when i add the sonic pad and start trying to push some speeds up to the 140+mm/s range. This system is really appealing to me, is it still working well?
Considering these are belts, how is their life span compared to wheels? I understand there are belts in the stock system, just curious before I spend $150 on something that may or may not last.
So I actually installed this exoslide last week on my printer. I agree and disagree with some of your thoughts. My whole experience was positive. I had to modify my cooling just like you did. I felt like it was not a negative due to the fact that the hero me is not factory sold. It would be hard for the designer to get it perfect for 100 cooling systems. I have seen way better quality in walls and corners. A bunch sharper. I also loosened up the tension a little on the roller which in turn allowed it to move more freely. My biggest issues with the whole kit is the extruded bar they send is not anodized black like the machine is. For me it was a big deal. We know all Ender 5 plus are black so why not sell a black extruded bar. But overall as usual great video. Did you ever make the video for calibrated you’re e steps and flow rate? Did I miss it?
Thanks for the comment and I'm happy to hear that you showed more improvement in your prints than I did. I've passed on your black extrusion suggestion to ExoSlide. I agreed with you on the color, although I've come to like the contrast of the new component. It looks upgraded. 😀 I may release the e-steps video this week. I definitely won't get done with the 32-bit board mod in such a short window, so this seems like a good time.
Kersey Fabrications awesome for the support. I upgraded my board a few months back and I really love it. Now the loudest thing on my machine is the fans. I calibrated my e-steps and flow rate on my machine a few months back. I think it is a must do for anyone with a 3D printer. I want you to release it for the community. I think it will make a lot of people happy!!
i was watching one of your videos u had a filament spool holder attached to the top rail of the ender 5 plus do u have the stl for that i am fixing to attach a micro swiss extruder
Hey! I really love all your videos on the ender 5! Im wondering if it would be possible for you to share some profiles you're using, im sure lot of us would be interested in this. Thank you very much!
Here you go: drive.google.com/open?id=1brpIf0o1RKKgmHRD0FmfhlrTY4Wk2J2T This one is for my all metal hot-end. If you are using the default hot-end, change the retraction to 6mm and retraction speed to 15mm/s.
Quite interesting. My concern is that it looks a bit bulky, what about weight? The entire hotend assembly looks like it would weight a bit? Is their hotend replacement plate compatible with the stock one (so that third party cooling solutions will fit and mount? Are the endstops adjustable?
Good point! I wish I would have thought to weigh everything before I installed it. So to answer your question in general, yes, it probably weighs more. I don't think it's a lot more. The original carriage, for example, has the metal plates for mounting and large wheels, where this one is plastic bearings. The original also has a larger motor mount. That you'd have to compare to more ExoSlides on the X-axis. Yes, the default cooling should mount fine on the new plate but you cannot mount the old plate because it doesn't have the right screw holes. I've mentioned the extrusion color to ExoSlide. Maybe we'll see an update.
@@kerseyfabs One simple thing I think they missed in their design is the hotend mounting plate, the bolts that mount it to the exoslides should have been countersunk, not a buttonhead bolt. They went some distance to make their bracket a CR/Ender one with mounting holes and distancers to match the original, and then made it incompatible with those boltheads.
I have a basaraba direct drive on Ender 5 (Standard) and was looking at their/printermods rails. Is this likely to fit with their Xaxis - direct drive. ??
Yes! I'm still using them on my primary machine and they are working great! I have no intention to change them back or to linear rails. If you follow me on Twitter or Instagram, most of those prints are coming from that machine.
Thanks for watching. The mods aren't really the same. They have their own advantages. You can check out my Ender 5 linear rail mod here: ruclips.net/video/tf8bVFscOOM/видео.html
The best way for me to sum up is, "not yet." I was unable to see any improvement yet but I have some ideas that will hopefully use the new ExoSlides a little more to their potential.
@@kerseyfabs Maybe you will do that by the time I get around to wanting or needing it. New to the Ender 5 + and 3D printing so I will be leaving it stock until I can print good and understand what I'm doing then I will know what mods I want or need.
Isn't an upgrade something that has a tangible benefit. Kinda like saying direct drive is an upgrade, it only is if you need to use filaments beyond PLA and PETG, if you're printing PLA it's a downgrade.
While it may not make a big difference in print quality, I love the ExoSlide for it's low-maintenance and rigidity. Since installing it, I haven't had to worry about cleaning the big wheels or re-adjusting tension. I also feel the printer is quieter but I don't have anything sensitive enough to show that.
I have been thinking for a while that fans may not be the right tool for the job of cooling on a 3d printer. While a 40 mm fan is typically rated at 4-6 CFM the static pressure is typically less than .01 PSI (assuming my conversion numbers are correct). So how much of that CFM is actually hitting the part? Think about all the bad fan ducting. IF we would switch to an oil less spray paint compressor(2CFM?) (on floor or out in the garage), add in a 5(?) psi regulator, and an air blade tip, we MAY be better off. Running a small air line(think filament tube) should not cause any issues. We should be able to point the air blade (probably one from each side) exactly where we need the cooling. Yes, one would be looking at an additional $100(?) for the compressor (assuming you do not have one already) but how much money do we waste chasing better cooling with fans and ducts?
I love creative ideas like this! In fact, I have a pretty ambition cooling idea myself that I'd love to try sooner than later! If you try this, let people know how it turns out.
@@kerseyfabs Cash flow is going to be an issue here for a while. I have been using this(virus stuff) as an excuse to learn FreeCAD a little more. I have been designing a 40mm fan replacement as a test case, most of the day. For right now it is 52mm tall (yeah I know) and when I get access to a working printer again(library) I will print it. IF it shows promise I am pretty sure I can cut that down to about 20mm. Hopefully by that time (and if those experiments actually work), I can get up and running again and go after the real target (part cooling nozzle). IF you have someplace I could drop the current FreeCAD file or its STL that would be fine.
Hi Kersey. Thank you for the excellent review. I am thinking about buying the ExoSlide to help with some slight banding that I seem to be getting. I was hopeful that the ExoSlide would do the trick. But it seems after watching your review, I still see the banding in your test prints. More or less to the same amount. Hard to tell from the video. My question is, where should we be looking to try and remove the banding? Since it appears the issue is not with X/Y since you have replaced the whole system. Or is this just something that is never going to go away with eh E5P? Again, thank you for all of the work you are doing! - Jason
Thanks Jason. I will tell you that in my experience, the banding comes and goes. I really don't know if it's settings or model specific but I don't always see it. For example, the Batman busts I printed in my Marlin videos at 50mm/s, I don't recall any banding. On these skulls though, i saw it quite a bit. It's something I haven't thought much about but I'll be happy to do more testing. My feeling is that this is more speed or slicer related than anything. Overall, I'm extremely happy with the print quality but I rarely print faster than 50-60mm/s for quality.
Hi, very interesting video, I was thinking about KAY3d corexy conversion but now I'm seriously in doubt, for sure KAY3D will be more complex to install but I'm thining if this will be a better way to go without totally changing the printer. What do you think ?
The only reason I would switch to CoreXY over the ExoSlide is if I was determined to print at 100mm/s and faster. The only thing I can see it buying you is speed. That being said, I've never validated the quality myself to know how well it works.
You do a lot of Creality Ender videos. I have Ender 3 Pro. I keep getting a "Thermal Runaway printer Halted Please Reset" error. Do you know whats causing it and is there a fix?
This is usually caused by a printer not able to be heated to a particular temperature or not able to maintain a temperature. What temperature are you printing at? Does this happen before your print begins or during? Are you using stock cooling?
I'm not sure. I wouldn't be able to find out without one to test or without a CAD drawing at least. If you'd like to find out, feel free to contact them directly and they're welcome to contact me or ExoSlide directly for more info.
I just bought an Ender 5 plus, and it is my first 3D printer, in fact, I'm still waiting on delivery. Knowing very little about 3D printing, and only minimal at best knowledge of CNC's, I want to ask you if this printer can be even further upgraded to lead screws, eliminating all of the belt drives??? Also, do you know if this is available with a black 2020 extrusion?? Sorry, that's just my OCD kicking in.
The Ender 5 Pro is all black extrusion, and why upgrade lead screws? There is 2 of them, one each side. Belt drives? Then your thinking CoreXY kit, not this one.
@@johanstrauss8951 As I said in my original post, I have an Ender 5 PLUS, not a Pro as you stated. Yes, I am well aware that the frame of the Ender is in fact all black, after-all, I do have one sitting in my home, and I even watched videos about the printer before buying it. I was asking about the 2020 extrusion that is included with the ExoSlide system. Fortunately, I was able to locate a black 2020 extrusion online and am having it shipped for about $20USD, to keep my printer ALL black as opposed to black with an unfinished gantry that sticks out like a sore thumb. When I asked about adding lead screws to the printer, I was not referring to the Z axis, which obviously already has them. Instead, I was asking about the the Y axis, and the X axis, which are both belt driven. Since I made that original post, I have already found belt driven conversion kits for the Ender 5 Plus to make it CoreXY. There is a company called Kay3D that makes a conversion kit for the Ender 5 Plus, and I'm sure there are others as well. While I might not know a whole lot about 3D printers, I am not afraid of asking legitimate questions, and searching for information while waiting for an educated answer. Why would anyone want to buy this printer and upgrade it to be much better than what the company originally sold?? Some people like plain vanilla ice cream, while others like to add flavorings, and syrups, some even like to add fruit, nuts, and whipped cream. I'm really not much of a plain vanilla kind of person, which is why I subscribed to this channel.
Given the simple mounting on the ExoSlide, it would be fairly easy to make a 3D printed mount for almost any solution available. It would take a little design but it should be doable. I can't recommend it for sure unless I get one for testing.
I did! While I love it for the higher print temps, I honestly did it because it makes it so much easier to change nozzles without leaks. Well worth the money, IMHO.
@@kerseyfabs I haven't been able to get rid of my stringing with the MS hotend on my 5+. Still using the stock ptfe tubing though, and the length of it is also part of the problem I think. Got TH3D Toughtube incoming and hope that will help. But will need to go direct drive soon.
Quick question from another Ender 5 Plus owner. Have you run into a gcode size limit that the printer will read? I've printed a number of beautiful prints and wanted to make something that is bigger but the printer doesn't show it in the print menu like the others. The file size is 98.4 MB.
I was just about to pull the trigger on an rail system for my Ender 5 plus but after seeing your great review i am going to go this option many thanks Kris keep up with the no BS reviews and how do i's they are great and full of detail and every easy to follow step by step once again thank you.
I just got my system installed everything in about 2 to 3 hours great kit very easy to install if you are waiting to do an rail system on your 3d printer dont wait just do it so smooth thanks again Kris for the video
I just completed installing the exoslide kit on my ender3 pro. This kit moves the hot end nozzle about 20 mm further forward from the build plate after homing than the original. With the original system the print started in the center of the build plate, with the excoslide system the print starts about 20 mm from the center of the build plate front edge. Is there a way to set the Y axis offset to compensate for this?
@@kerseyfabs well, i'm out of luck a far as compiling my firmware. i guess i jumped in over my head. i guess ill send it back i wish the sales department at exoslide would have been up front about this issue.
Hi Kris thanks for making this video. I am on the edge of getting a ender 5 plus. Would you at some point have a video or have a list somewhere all the mod you did ? It would be nice to acquire all these upgrade along with the printer. Thanks for making these videos they help alot
I have a playlist with all of my Ender 5 Plus videos here: ruclips.net/p/PL4dGkbjUvBzq2YSp5Dzjggj1op4EBq4nU You should watch my Top 5 Upgrades video first though to learn about my upgrading philosophy: ruclips.net/video/dbS9MA4UkZA/видео.html
I have done many mods, maybe too many! Kris got me going with the linear rail mod on my Ender 5. Here is a link to my mod set for the Ender 5 Plus, take a look if gives you an idea of the things you can do. www.thingiverse.com/thing:4162889 Kris has some great ideas and more coming
2 years later and how is it going? I have a new Ender 5 + that I got a few weeks ago. I have upgrade the extrusion and tube. I am having thermal runaway errors to the hot end is next. The the ExoSlide???
Going to try this after all, Kris, you’ve been using this kit quite a while now, any tips? According to some opinions about linear rails there is a print improvement, you did not see it immediately, after a year any new views on the matter?
After a year, what I can tell you is how consistent the printer has been. It prints as good now as it did then, through multiple mainboard changes and all. I can't say it improved my print quality up front because I think the E5P prints so well to begin with but the maintenance is much improved.
Honestly, I like both the ExoSlide and linear rails. Number one is that they are both relatively low maintenance. The ExoSlide still needs some wheel cleaning and the linear rails will need some cleaning/oiling too. The real benefit of the ExoSlide is that it comes as a kit. The linear rails, you'll need to find a mod or make your own. They're both great solutions. I run the ExoSlide on an Ender 5 Plus still and linear rails on my Ender 5.
Wow, that's a loaded question. For 3D printing, I think that ExoSlides are probably better unless your printer has been designed from the ground up for linear rails. They are just a little more forgiving than the rigidity of linear rails.
Personally I really dislike the belt tensioners the Ender line of printers come with. They are fiddly to get in place and tension correctly with the t-nuts at 90 degrees. The roller on the end is only held on on side which causes a slight twist which again may result in your belt moving to one side of the roller. If you search for "2020 belt tensioner" or "4040 belt tensioner" on aliexpress, there are a couple of variants of belt tensioners available with a knob on the end for easy adjustment. Some of these also seem to rest on the end of the v-slot profile on the side where they are not bolted to the profile. I have ordered a couple of these myself, but of course shipping from China takes time at the moment. :-/
I'm still evaluating these, but take a look at these two. www.thingiverse.com/thing:3929081 www.thingiverse.com/thing:3614374 I have tried both and they seem to work. I did mod one to use a 5mm bolt and a 5mm toothed bearing.
Great video (as usual). Two questions though: 1) is there a reason for changing the extrusion and not using the original one 2) it looks like the whole extruder is skewed after upgrade, is it because of the kit or inpropper assembly -this could also be the reason for banding you are getting on your postmod prints. UPDATE: after seeing price of this kit ended up purchasing MGH12H linear rails and M3 nuts and bolts on AE that had good reviews for $80 total which saves you about $50. Getting true linear rails is little bit more work but it gives you better precision, repeatability and longevity. Exoslide should consider redesigning this kit so as much oem parts can be reused and make price no bigger than $60.
Nice vid, Kris, can’t help getting the feeling that you’ve departed from the 5+ zone.... If I would push my 5+ “out of the box”, I would look into motherboard swap with colour touch screen, WiFi and cam support, stuff like that. By the way, is exoslide active in the European market?
Thanks! What do you mean "departed from the 5+ zone?" That it's no really a 5+ anymore? I can't agree yet since it's a motion system that was designed by Creality that's still very Ender 5. Motherboard and screen swap coming very soon! Contact ExoSlide directly for international shipping. Thanks!
I mean it’s a major upgrade which changes the look and feel of the printer, not that it won’t be a 5+ anymore. I’m interested what you’ll get out of it after tweaking and difference in wear and tear. It’s an interesting design this exoslide. Clever.
@@kerseyfabs Buying from them as a European citizen isn't exactly straightforward and you can't see cost up front. I'm sure they will get distribution sorted eventually though. Just hope it will take off so more of the popular options will come in Exoslide variants.
With so many mods maybe make it’s better to make it from scratch rather than buying a $600 printer and changing everything IMO. Hope to get my ender 5+ soon.
You're not wrong but there are a couple of advantages to this modding: 1) Most importantly, it allows people that are new to 3D printing to learn a lot about it as they go. If this is one of their first printers they can learn about each component with each upgrade. 2) This is a great way to spread out the cost and keep a printer working as you go.
Good suggestion, but I don't know where you could purchase a kit that would run with supplied parts out of the box. I wish Creality would sell it with the option to delete parts, or a partial kit without, mainboard, hot end, extruder and power supply. These are the parts most upgraded. But I guess that would be a logistics nightmare for them.
@@kerseyfabs Maybe a future video series. Planning, sourcing, building and tuning a CoreXY printer like a Hypercube variant or similar. Or maybe their ExoSlide based CoreXY?
Hi Kersey. First off, thanks for the vids. Been following a few now. I’m entering the 3D printing world and really need advise. Been looking at the Ender 5 plus but after looking at the Creality website I see that the 5 pro now comes with all the upgrades. Now, my question, what would you recommend as a starting printer ? Thanks in advance.
have you mounted your micro Swiss direct drive to the exoslide? I noticed that your glass bed is upside down. Mine has a rubber like coating that faces up. The Ender logo is readable when I put the glass with this coating facing up. Should my glass bed be installed with the smooth side facing up? I love my micro Swiss direct drive but I would prefer that it didn’t move so much because of the weight of the stepper. Any luck finding a pancake stepper? Thanks for the great work
yeah, that's what I was thinking. Why not directly build your own system based on the ender but with all those special upgraded mainboards, extruders, sliders, power supplies, firmwares.. probably the only cheaper thing on the 5 plus basis is the aluminium.. but as that is replaced, it gets really expensive
No payment received for this. I don't even get commission on sales. If you click the link, you'll notice it's not even an affiliate link. To this date, I've never been paid by for a video (other than ads and affiliate links). Only the products are provided as a sample. To you point, sure they'll wear down over time. Everything does. I have two Ender 5 Plus printers though and I can provide photos that show the difference in wear and dust collected from both printers.
Woah woah woah hold on there. less maintenance than linear rails? That's a very bold claim... if you have decent linear rails, they nearly clean themselves. They have these awesome little parts on the entrances of the carriage that basically friction fit themselves onto the rail, and when it runs something over, it just wipes it away. If anything, you should only have to take a microfiber cleaning cloth (not the kind for screens or glasses mind you) and simply wipe away what is collected on the carriage. Then you can also wipe the ends of the rail itself, as that is where it'll all accumulate. other than that, you don't really have to do much. you lube them up with a decent lube when you first put them on, and go ham. SIGNIFICANTLY less work than anything else i've seen. With the exception of actual linear rods and really good quality slide bearings.. as those have the same end piece doohicky that wipes up anything on the rod, and you again, just wipe off the edges and boom you're done..
Why wouldn’t I just buy linear rails? This seems to add complexity and variables in a world where we can literally buy high-quality, ready to go linear rails.
@@kerseyfabs No, I didn't really think you were trying to impress me but I did have the feeling you felt this system has some advantages. I disagree and it's expensive.
So there is no reason to upgrade any printer with the POM wheels because there are no problems? Why doesn't every manufacturer use them? And how can you deny anything I said when I can show you evidence? I have received zero payment for this video. The only thing I received was the kit itself. Also, maybe be less of an ass when you leave a comment. Try to be constructive.
Personally I enjoy upgrading printers more than actual printing. These types of upgrades drive the industry which is literally booming. Yes stock enders make beautiful prints. I like unnecessary upgrades because it helps me understand what is going on mechanically. Being able to create linear motion is such a great skill. This guy may get free products or some kickbacks to do reviews, but he is a part of the open source community as and educator. These videos are critical for people like me who want to understand and lack other resources for traditional education. We're all just making it up as we go, and hot takes like yours are part of the reason I'm unable to make my own content. People are so mean when a screen and keyboard disconnects you from the living, breathing, feeling person you're ranting at. Do better for yourself stranger
My first 3D printer is this printer, and I'll be putting it together for the first time today. Thank you for being one of the few 'tubers that are addressing this model specifically
Good luck with your build! I hope it goes smoothly!
I've just bought one off the back of these Ender 5 plus movies. How have you found yours Tracy?
@@YippeePlopFork found mine?
@@TracyNorrell sorry, let me re-phrase. How is your ender 5 plus performing? Do you like it and have you had any problems?
@@YippeePlopFork mine is still stock. No mods. No upgrades. I had a HUGE problem with bed height. The first 6 months I had it, I couldn't figure out how to prevent tool collisions with the bed. I ended up finding some gCode to fix the z-offset, and no more tool crashes. Now I'm struggling with bed adhesion. The edges of my prints curl up. The head will collide with the curled print and break the print free, or cause the belt to skip this printing the remaining layers at an offset. Are these problems with the printer? Only if the operator doesn't know how to resolve them. And a year later, I'm still learning to resolve things... But that's true of any printer, it seems
I installed on my Ender 5 Plus with Hemera DD. The only issue I had was squaring the Y axis gantry. I ended up loosening the y coupler and made it supper easy to square. Really happy with this.
That's great this was going be my next question if anyone had an Hemera DD with this mod my next upgrade once they come back in stock
Check out the mounts and cooling ExoSlide has already put together: www.exoslide.com/universal-CAD
I have exoslide kit on my Ender 5, the most difficult part was getting my custom cooling to fit back on. My old part didn’t drill nice like yours. I ended up customizing the part and printing a new one with a hole for that screw head.
I'm glad you were able to get it working!
Great video Kris! Thanks taking the time to detail the proper ExoSlide tensioning as well (just a slight drag is needed if you don't have calipers). Looking forward to how the Ender 5 Plus printer further evolves!
It was my pleasure!
Can the micro Swiss direct drive work on your hotend mount bracket or work with this set up?
I left a comment here on how the wheels have been holding up with the micro swiss direct drive on the exoslide 🙂 I'm very happy with it
That's terrific! Thanks for the reply.
Just wanted to add to this for anyone that receives the ExoSlide kit, the parts you receive will be slightly different than what Kris has here in the video. ExoSlide just updated some of the parts in their current kits so you will have some things different.
I just hope the build walk-through is still close enough to be useful. 😅
This printer is truly a rabbit hole :)
Thanks for taking the time to do such a through and well thought out review. I read the other comments before posting this and agree that this is not a required mod. This is for the user who wants to improve their printer and can afford upgrades, not everyone can and I understand that. To me the beauty of the Ender series is the vast number of upgrades and replacement parts that are easily purchased and the great user community that will provide help. I went with your linear rails on all of my Enders and have been impressed with the reduced maintenance and improved reliability. I think I would have tried this if I had seen your video first. Excited to see your other mods for the 5 Plus, interested in your comment about better drive motors. Keep it up Kris!!
As a tip for the wire guide, you can use a piece of filament (PLA works great for this). Much easier than unwinding a coat hanger.
Great idea. Just tape it to the end?
@@kerseyfabs I usually just heat up; the end and bend over a little hook.
how have the exoslides held up? I just got a plus and already planning my next set of updates.
I installed mine today. A few changes to the kit have been made. the metal parts are more refined. Corner pieces are not included any more, The newer Ender 5 has metal brackets. All in all a great upgrade. much quieter and I think a smother operation.
Thanks for the update! I'm glad it's still a good upgrade.
@@kerseyfabs do you still have it on your E5+?
@@skyrider4789 Yes I do. I've disassembled it one time for cleaning and maintenance.
I modified my exoslide for a micro swiss hot end and direct drive, exoslide said that had not been tested but I did it anyway. The wheels on the 40mm brackets did wear out from (I believe) the extra forward weight. Now I have the 40mm wheels (wheel covers) taken off all of them and so far all is good and I didn't notice any extra noise or any change in the prints. I will update in a few months again.
Sounds like you made it work. I hope it works going forward without issue.
I use the iFix it tool kit. A very similar tool kit to yours. I use mine all the time. Plus I use a socket set and a Box wrench set. I al use a Duracell Head lamp. Sometimes I need to use my DeWalt Drill Driver to get apart stuck screws. I also bought some Screw kits from Amazon. A Grub screw kit and a regular Hex or torx hed screw set. Good to have extras around.
Great video as always
Like the sound change
Thanks for sharing :-)
I appreciate it! What sound change are you talking about?
@@kerseyfabs the change of the sound of the Y and X carriage
I'd be curious to see the print quality running at 120-140 mm/s and see if there's a difference. I'd think that this is where something like this may come out ahead due to it's rigidity.
Can we get an update on your current thoughts of how it has held up / any changes etc....
Your printer is turning into a beast!
The newer kits don't come with a 2020 extrusion or corner brackets, and some parts are made differently than those shown.
I also like the concept of Exoslide, but major question is: should you buy and install a mod if your prints quality won't improve?
First, I mentioned other reasons to upgrade rather than print quality improvement. To your question though, it really depends on what you're chasing. Do you want to continue modding to chase those last details? As I mentioned in my conclusion, other mods I'm doing down the road may help this mod to be utilized further.
Is there a update video to this? As in upgrades to rest of printer movement? The Z axis.? Thanks keep up the good work.
extruder temp: 20 bed temp 80. It happens everynow and then Usually it happens after 20 minutes of a 2 hour print.
Normal PLA temp is around 190-210, so 220 may be out of the range the printer was tuned for. I think you should re PID tune your machine. There are videos on how to do it or here's a guide: 3daddict.com/pid-tune-3d-printer/
Just PID tune for your average print temperature.
Thanks, I'll try that.
Covered this very well, nice to see, as another e5p owner. Doing a great job, subscriber base +1 :)
Looking forward to some build/reviews for kay3d's core-xy kit for e5p before I decide what to do next with mine...
I can probably give this kit a try but I'd need another Ender 5 Plus. 😆 I'd like to actually use my printer!
@@kerseyfabs yes for sure that one is a huge roll up sleeves overhaul, totally get you there. Yep, sometimes its nice to just have machines ready to deliver good prints :) Still, an interesting one and nice that it takes it to a totally different place, hopefully with improvement to match the effort but who knows.. anyway it's bad choice for a printer you intend to use anytime soon! Keep well and making excellent content.
On the X-axis motor mount, I am wondering if one would not be better off moving it to the back of the extrusion and mounting the motor from the other side(facing forward rather than backward). That would balance(somewhat) the mass front to back with the hot end(and extruder on direct drive setups) on one side and the motor on the other. I do not believe that there is a clearance issue. You would need to reverse the direction that the motor runs in your firmware.
That's not a bad idea for balance. I don't know if you'd see a difference in performance though. The ExoSlides, extrusions, and mounting are really rigid.
@@kerseyfabs Thinking more long term about all the mass on the front wearing on the front "rollers" more than the back. I suspect that IF there is an issue it probably would not show up unless you have a direct drive unit.
@@kerseyfabs Kris great job, I have a 5+ and wanting to go to a direct drive solution and this mod looks like it addresses my needs. Curious how the + deals with the additional weight of DD? semi concerned about the extra weight and deflection of the 2020 X bar and the inertia created by the extra length or if i am making to much of it. Also curious about what material (PLA or PETG) you are printing your mod's from.
Another great video!
yeah, I'm interested in the exoslide but the original def looks better. I wonder if you remove the fans and do a fan pump-blower tube running to it? That'd be an easy mod to do and I'd love to see the quality difference in that.
If I put the printermod direct drive kit with bl touch, would this still work?
I'm not sure. Check with ExoSlide to see if they have any experience using them together.
Ive been looking at a better rail solution to my 5+ for when i add the sonic pad and start trying to push some speeds up to the 140+mm/s range. This system is really appealing to me, is it still working well?
Can you use a micro Swiss direct drive with this?
Yes but you'll have to look around for a mounting adapter or create your own.
Considering these are belts, how is their life span compared to wheels? I understand there are belts in the stock system, just curious before I spend $150 on something that may or may not last.
So I actually installed this exoslide last week on my printer. I agree and disagree with some of your thoughts. My whole experience was positive. I had to modify my cooling just like you did. I felt like it was not a negative due to the fact that the hero me is not factory sold. It would be hard for the designer to get it perfect for 100 cooling systems. I have seen way better quality in walls and corners. A bunch sharper. I also loosened up the tension a little on the roller which in turn allowed it to move more freely. My biggest issues with the whole kit is the extruded bar they send is not anodized black like the machine is. For me it was a big deal. We know all Ender 5 plus are black so why not sell a black extruded bar. But overall as usual great video. Did you ever make the video for calibrated you’re e steps and flow rate? Did I miss it?
Drone Pilot hopefully they change it for the future. Maybe it was an oversight on there part. They did just launch the Ender 5 plus kit 2 weeks ago.
Thanks for the comment and I'm happy to hear that you showed more improvement in your prints than I did. I've passed on your black extrusion suggestion to ExoSlide. I agreed with you on the color, although I've come to like the contrast of the new component. It looks upgraded. 😀 I may release the e-steps video this week. I definitely won't get done with the 32-bit board mod in such a short window, so this seems like a good time.
Kersey Fabrications awesome for the support. I upgraded my board a few months back and I really love it. Now the loudest thing on my machine is the fans. I calibrated my e-steps and flow rate on my machine a few months back. I think it is a must do for anyone with a 3D printer. I want you to release it for the community. I think it will make a lot of people happy!!
@@raphaelholm I'm for sure one of the people that would be happy about that e-step video!
i was watching one of your videos u had a filament spool holder attached to the top rail of the ender 5 plus do u have the stl for that i am fixing to attach a micro swiss extruder
I don't remember doing that ever and I can't even picture it. I'm sorry I can't help further.
Hey! I really love all your videos on the ender 5! Im wondering if it would be possible for you to share some profiles you're using, im sure lot of us would be interested in this. Thank you very much!
Here you go: drive.google.com/open?id=1brpIf0o1RKKgmHRD0FmfhlrTY4Wk2J2T
This one is for my all metal hot-end. If you are using the default hot-end, change the retraction to 6mm and retraction speed to 15mm/s.
On my Ender5 plus my Y axis is extremely loud. Is this noise normal
Will this system work with a Micro Swiss DD setup?
Here you go: store.micro-swiss.com/products/micro-swiss-direct-drive-extruder-for-exoslide-system
Quite interesting. My concern is that it looks a bit bulky, what about weight? The entire hotend assembly looks like it would weight a bit? Is their hotend replacement plate compatible with the stock one (so that third party cooling solutions will fit and mount? Are the endstops adjustable?
Side note: Why oh why not black extrusions? That X extrusion will stick out like a sore thumb.
Good point! I wish I would have thought to weigh everything before I installed it. So to answer your question in general, yes, it probably weighs more. I don't think it's a lot more. The original carriage, for example, has the metal plates for mounting and large wheels, where this one is plastic bearings. The original also has a larger motor mount. That you'd have to compare to more ExoSlides on the X-axis.
Yes, the default cooling should mount fine on the new plate but you cannot mount the old plate because it doesn't have the right screw holes.
I've mentioned the extrusion color to ExoSlide. Maybe we'll see an update.
@@kerseyfabs One simple thing I think they missed in their design is the hotend mounting plate, the bolts that mount it to the exoslides should have been countersunk, not a buttonhead bolt. They went some distance to make their bracket a CR/Ender one with mounting holes and distancers to match the original, and then made it incompatible with those boltheads.
I have a basaraba direct drive on Ender 5 (Standard) and was looking at their/printermods rails. Is this likely to fit with their Xaxis - direct drive. ??
I don't think so but I'm about to look into fixing that. Keep an eye out for a post about it.
Ender 5 and Ender 5 Pro would use the same kit as the base system are the same, right?
Yep!
Are you still using the exoslide system and still working great?
Yes! I'm still using them on my primary machine and they are working great! I have no intention to change them back or to linear rails. If you follow me on Twitter or Instagram, most of those prints are coming from that machine.
If I was going to upgrade it would be hiwin.
Now if you had an ender 5 plus linear rail with hiwin bearing blocks I would totally be interested.
Thanks for watching. The mods aren't really the same. They have their own advantages. You can check out my Ender 5 linear rail mod here: ruclips.net/video/tf8bVFscOOM/видео.html
Correct me if I’m wrong as I just skipped to the side by side comparisons - so no real difference between stock and these slides?
The best way for me to sum up is, "not yet." I was unable to see any improvement yet but I have some ideas that will hopefully use the new ExoSlides a little more to their potential.
Can a Micro Swiss direct drive setup be mounted to these slides?
Not without an adapter. I may design one.
@@kerseyfabs Maybe you will do that by the time I get around to wanting or needing it. New to the Ender 5 + and 3D printing so I will be leaving it stock until I can print good and understand what I'm doing then I will know what mods I want or need.
That's just the right mentality! Happy printing!
@@kerseyfabs Thanks. I'm sure I will be watching your videos for help as my printer shows up Tuesday.
I just did it with this adapter: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4609626
You should of stuck to orignal, the exo has more lines in the products, you can see the skull is alot better from stock than upgrade.
Amazing upgrade. But will this work if I'm running a Micro Swiss DD? Because I notice the belt bracket isn't the same as it is on the DD set up
Isn't an upgrade something that has a tangible benefit.
Kinda like saying direct drive is an upgrade, it only is if you need to use filaments beyond PLA and PETG, if you're printing PLA it's a downgrade.
While it may not make a big difference in print quality, I love the ExoSlide for it's low-maintenance and rigidity. Since installing it, I haven't had to worry about cleaning the big wheels or re-adjusting tension. I also feel the printer is quieter but I don't have anything sensitive enough to show that.
Hey Kersey,
I am considering this ugrade too, will my Micro Swiss direct drive kit work with this upgarde as well?
Thanks,
André
I have been thinking for a while that fans may not be the right tool for the job of cooling on a 3d printer. While a 40 mm fan is typically rated at 4-6 CFM the static pressure is typically less than .01 PSI (assuming my conversion numbers are correct). So how much of that CFM is actually hitting the part? Think about all the bad fan ducting. IF we would switch to an oil less spray paint compressor(2CFM?) (on floor or out in the garage), add in a 5(?) psi regulator, and an air blade tip, we MAY be better off. Running a small air line(think filament tube) should not cause any issues. We should be able to point the air blade (probably one from each side) exactly where we need the cooling. Yes, one would be looking at an additional $100(?) for the compressor (assuming you do not have one already) but how much money do we waste chasing better cooling with fans and ducts?
I love creative ideas like this! In fact, I have a pretty ambition cooling idea myself that I'd love to try sooner than later! If you try this, let people know how it turns out.
@@kerseyfabs Cash flow is going to be an issue here for a while. I have been using this(virus stuff) as an excuse to learn FreeCAD a little more. I have been designing a 40mm fan replacement as a test case, most of the day. For right now it is 52mm tall (yeah I know) and when I get access to a working printer again(library) I will print it. IF it shows promise I am pretty sure I can cut that down to about 20mm. Hopefully by that time (and if those experiments actually work), I can get up and running again and go after the real target (part cooling nozzle). IF you have someplace I could drop the current FreeCAD file or its STL that would be fine.
I am successfully using a similar concept as what you describe - this one:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:3969234
Try printing something with the fan off and the same object with it on, you will notice that a part cooling fan is not needed in such a way.
That is demonstrably not true. I've done multiple videos showing how overhangs look without proper cooling.
Thanks for share all you knowledge bro. very helpfull videos. keep going
It's my pleasure! Thanks for the comment!
Hi Kersey. Thank you for the excellent review. I am thinking about buying the ExoSlide to help with some slight banding that I seem to be getting. I was hopeful that the ExoSlide would do the trick. But it seems after watching your review, I still see the banding in your test prints. More or less to the same amount. Hard to tell from the video. My question is, where should we be looking to try and remove the banding? Since it appears the issue is not with X/Y since you have replaced the whole system. Or is this just something that is never going to go away with eh E5P? Again, thank you for all of the work you are doing! - Jason
Thanks Jason. I will tell you that in my experience, the banding comes and goes. I really don't know if it's settings or model specific but I don't always see it. For example, the Batman busts I printed in my Marlin videos at 50mm/s, I don't recall any banding. On these skulls though, i saw it quite a bit. It's something I haven't thought much about but I'll be happy to do more testing. My feeling is that this is more speed or slicer related than anything. Overall, I'm extremely happy with the print quality but I rarely print faster than 50-60mm/s for quality.
Hi, very interesting video, I was thinking about KAY3d corexy conversion but now I'm seriously in doubt, for sure KAY3D will be more complex to install but I'm thining if this will be a better way to go without totally changing the printer. What do you think ?
The only reason I would switch to CoreXY over the ExoSlide is if I was determined to print at 100mm/s and faster. The only thing I can see it buying you is speed. That being said, I've never validated the quality myself to know how well it works.
Kersey Fabrications not really thinking about speed but more on print quality so probably ExiSlide is a better configuration.
Agreed.
Exo.. or rails, what would be you preference, presision / maintains in minde.
I'd go with the ExoSlide personally. Easier to calibrate, IMO, and easier maintenance.
Hi, what is triggering your Y-axis endstop???? I'd attach a picture of what mine looks like, but you can't.
Your Y-axis endstop should be hitting the plastic bracket that holds your X-axis endstop.
You do a lot of Creality Ender videos. I have Ender 3 Pro. I keep getting a "Thermal Runaway printer Halted Please Reset" error. Do you know whats causing it and is there a fix?
This is usually caused by a printer not able to be heated to a particular temperature or not able to maintain a temperature.
What temperature are you printing at?
Does this happen before your print begins or during?
Are you using stock cooling?
what kind of a build surface are you using in this video ? it looks shinny black.
I'm pretty sure this one is the usual glass that came with the printer, just the bottom smooth side.
Do you know if the PrinterMods MDD will work with this kit?
I'm not sure. I wouldn't be able to find out without one to test or without a CAD drawing at least. If you'd like to find out, feel free to contact them directly and they're welcome to contact me or ExoSlide directly for more info.
I just bought an Ender 5 plus, and it is my first 3D printer, in fact, I'm still waiting on delivery. Knowing very little about 3D printing, and only minimal at best knowledge of CNC's, I want to ask you if this printer can be even further upgraded to lead screws, eliminating all of the belt drives??? Also, do you know if this is available with a black 2020 extrusion?? Sorry, that's just my OCD kicking in.
The Ender 5 Pro is all black extrusion, and why upgrade lead screws? There is 2 of them, one each side. Belt drives? Then your thinking CoreXY kit, not this one.
@@johanstrauss8951 As I said in my original post, I have an Ender 5 PLUS, not a Pro as you stated. Yes, I am well aware that the frame of the Ender is in fact all black, after-all, I do have one sitting in my home, and I even watched videos about the printer before buying it. I was asking about the 2020 extrusion that is included with the ExoSlide system. Fortunately, I was able to locate a black 2020 extrusion online and am having it shipped for about $20USD, to keep my printer ALL black as opposed to black with an unfinished gantry that sticks out like a sore thumb. When I asked about adding lead screws to the printer, I was not referring to the Z axis, which obviously already has them. Instead, I was asking about the the Y axis, and the X axis, which are both belt driven. Since I made that original post, I have already found belt driven conversion kits for the Ender 5 Plus to make it CoreXY. There is a company called Kay3D that makes a conversion kit for the Ender 5 Plus, and I'm sure there are others as well. While I might not know a whole lot about 3D printers, I am not afraid of asking legitimate questions, and searching for information while waiting for an educated answer. Why would anyone want to buy this printer and upgrade it to be much better than what the company originally sold?? Some people like plain vanilla ice cream, while others like to add flavorings, and syrups, some even like to add fruit, nuts, and whipped cream. I'm really not much of a plain vanilla kind of person, which is why I subscribed to this channel.
Does the Y end stop have a mod too? With the standard one it doesn't work.
The Y endstop that came with the kit worked fine for me.
@@kerseyfabs - ignore my last! I had the gantry too far forward on the exoslides! 🙈
Do you think this is compatible with the micro swiss direct drive?
Given the simple mounting on the ExoSlide, it would be fairly easy to make a 3D printed mount for almost any solution available. It would take a little design but it should be doable. I can't recommend it for sure unless I get one for testing.
Did you change to a micro-Swiss hotend on this 5+?
I did! While I love it for the higher print temps, I honestly did it because it makes it so much easier to change nozzles without leaks. Well worth the money, IMHO.
@@kerseyfabs I haven't been able to get rid of my stringing with the MS hotend on my 5+. Still using the stock ptfe tubing though, and the length of it is also part of the problem I think. Got TH3D Toughtube incoming and hope that will help. But will need to go direct drive soon.
Quick question from another Ender 5 Plus owner. Have you run into a gcode size limit that the printer will read? I've printed a number of beautiful prints and wanted to make something that is bigger but the printer doesn't show it in the print menu like the others. The file size is 98.4 MB.
Just seeing this.... the filename has to be under so many characters i believe
Another great video Kris :)
I was just about to pull the trigger on an rail system for my Ender 5 plus but after seeing your great review i am going to go this option many thanks Kris keep up with the no BS reviews and how do i's they are great and full of detail and every easy to follow step by step once again thank you.
I just got my system installed everything in about 2 to 3 hours great kit very easy to install if you are waiting to do an rail system on your 3d printer dont wait just do it so smooth thanks again Kris for the video
Motherboard and screen swap coming soon? Yippee, can’t wait for that vid, wait, but I just installed the silent board....🤭
I just completed installing the exoslide kit on my ender3 pro. This kit moves the hot end nozzle about 20 mm further forward from the build plate after homing than the original.
With the original system the print started in the center of the build plate, with the excoslide system the print starts about 20 mm from the center of the build plate front edge. Is there a way to set the Y axis offset to compensate for this?
You certainly can if you can recompile your own firmware. I don't think there's a method through settings.
@@kerseyfabs well, i'm out of luck a far as compiling my firmware. i guess i jumped in over my head. i guess ill send it back i wish the sales department at exoslide would have been up front about this issue.
Hi Kris thanks for making this video. I am on the edge of getting a ender 5 plus. Would you at some point have a video or have a list somewhere all the mod you did ? It would be nice to acquire all these upgrade along with the printer.
Thanks for making these videos they help alot
I have a playlist with all of my Ender 5 Plus videos here: ruclips.net/p/PL4dGkbjUvBzq2YSp5Dzjggj1op4EBq4nU
You should watch my Top 5 Upgrades video first though to learn about my upgrading philosophy: ruclips.net/video/dbS9MA4UkZA/видео.html
@@kerseyfabs I will do that. Thank you
I have done many mods, maybe too many! Kris got me going with the linear rail mod on my Ender 5. Here is a link to my mod set for the Ender 5 Plus, take a look if gives you an idea of the things you can do. www.thingiverse.com/thing:4162889 Kris has some great ideas and more coming
2 years later and how is it going? I have a new Ender 5 + that I got a few weeks ago. I have upgrade the extrusion and tube. I am having thermal runaway errors to the hot end is next. The the ExoSlide???
Going to try this after all, Kris, you’ve been using this kit quite a while now, any tips? According to some opinions about linear rails there is a print improvement, you did not see it immediately, after a year any new views on the matter?
After a year, what I can tell you is how consistent the printer has been. It prints as good now as it did then, through multiple mainboard changes and all. I can't say it improved my print quality up front because I think the E5P prints so well to begin with but the maintenance is much improved.
I can't order them because they are in Italy .... Are there other reference sites?
Unfortunately, you can only order this direct. Have you contacted them about shipping to Italy? They may be able to work something out.
They are now shipping from Europa, go ahead and buy :)
Kris, may I ask which of the motion systems you find smoothest for the Ender 5/ender 5 plus out of v wheels, exoslide and linear rails?
Honestly, I like both the ExoSlide and linear rails. Number one is that they are both relatively low maintenance. The ExoSlide still needs some wheel cleaning and the linear rails will need some cleaning/oiling too. The real benefit of the ExoSlide is that it comes as a kit. The linear rails, you'll need to find a mod or make your own. They're both great solutions. I run the ExoSlide on an Ender 5 Plus still and linear rails on my Ender 5.
Hello can the kit also be mounted on normal ender 5?
There's a separate kit for the Ender 5. So yes! Just order the one for you printer.
@@kerseyfabs I have modified my ender 5 using the direct drive system, is it possible to keep the same system with this kit?
Most likely yes but you may need to print some sort of adapter. There are many different direct drive systems available, so I can't say for sure.
So can a micro Swiss direct drive work with this as well?
I still need to test it. I've seen a way to attach it but I'm not sure about stability.
@@kerseyfabs awesome, I am a hobby machinist so I may try it out as well. I will let you know how it goes.
which is better Exoslide or Linear rails??
Wow, that's a loaded question. For 3D printing, I think that ExoSlides are probably better unless your printer has been designed from the ground up for linear rails. They are just a little more forgiving than the rigidity of linear rails.
@@kerseyfabs thanks Chris
Personally I really dislike the belt tensioners the Ender line of printers come with. They are fiddly to get in place and tension correctly with the t-nuts at 90 degrees. The roller on the end is only held on on side which causes a slight twist which again may result in your belt moving to one side of the roller. If you search for "2020 belt tensioner" or "4040 belt tensioner" on aliexpress, there are a couple of variants of belt tensioners available with a knob on the end for easy adjustment. Some of these also seem to rest on the end of the v-slot profile on the side where they are not bolted to the profile. I have ordered a couple of these myself, but of course shipping from China takes time at the moment. :-/
I completely agree. I've looked at them too and haven't been sure about them. If you find one that works well, let me know! I'd be happy to share!
I'm still evaluating these, but take a look at these two. www.thingiverse.com/thing:3929081 www.thingiverse.com/thing:3614374
I have tried both and they seem to work. I did mod one to use a 5mm bolt and a 5mm toothed bearing.
Great video (as usual). Two questions though: 1) is there a reason for changing the extrusion and not using the original one 2) it looks like the whole extruder is skewed after upgrade, is it because of the kit or inpropper assembly -this could also be the reason for banding you are getting on your postmod prints.
UPDATE: after seeing price of this kit ended up purchasing MGH12H linear rails and M3 nuts and bolts on AE that had good reviews for $80 total which saves you about $50. Getting true linear rails is little bit more work but it gives you better precision, repeatability and longevity. Exoslide should consider redesigning this kit so as much oem parts can be reused and make price no bigger than $60.
Nice vid, Kris, can’t help getting the feeling that you’ve departed from the 5+ zone.... If I would push my 5+ “out of the box”, I would look into motherboard swap with colour touch screen, WiFi and cam support, stuff like that. By the way, is exoslide active in the European market?
Thanks! What do you mean "departed from the 5+ zone?" That it's no really a 5+ anymore? I can't agree yet since it's a motion system that was designed by Creality that's still very Ender 5.
Motherboard and screen swap coming very soon!
Contact ExoSlide directly for international shipping. Thanks!
I mean it’s a major upgrade which changes the look and feel of the printer, not that it won’t be a 5+ anymore. I’m interested what you’ll get out of it after tweaking and difference in wear and tear. It’s an interesting design this exoslide. Clever.
@@kerseyfabs Buying from them as a European citizen isn't exactly straightforward and you can't see cost up front. I'm sure they will get distribution sorted eventually though. Just hope it will take off so more of the popular options will come in Exoslide variants.
@@SteinerSE They are now shipping from Europa!
With so many mods maybe make it’s better to make it from scratch rather than buying a $600 printer and changing everything IMO. Hope to get my ender 5+ soon.
You're not wrong but there are a couple of advantages to this modding:
1) Most importantly, it allows people that are new to 3D printing to learn a lot about it as they go. If this is one of their first printers they can learn about each component with each upgrade.
2) This is a great way to spread out the cost and keep a printer working as you go.
Good suggestion, but I don't know where you could purchase a kit that would run with supplied parts out of the box. I wish Creality would sell it with the option to delete parts, or a partial kit without, mainboard, hot end, extruder and power supply. These are the parts most upgraded. But I guess that would be a logistics nightmare for them.
@@kerseyfabs Maybe a future video series. Planning, sourcing, building and tuning a CoreXY printer like a Hypercube variant or similar. Or maybe their ExoSlide based CoreXY?
Hi Kersey. First off, thanks for the vids. Been following a few now. I’m entering the 3D printing world and really need advise. Been looking at the Ender 5 plus but after looking at the Creality website I see that the 5 pro now comes with all the upgrades. Now, my question, what would you recommend as a starting printer ? Thanks in advance.
For a first time printer, the Pro is an excellent choice! It's easy to assemble, easier to learn than some others. Plus it's already upgraded.
what fan mount is this?
This is a Hero Me Gen3: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3291101
Gen5 is available but I haven't upgraded.
can i run my microswiss direct drive with this?
Not yet. As far as I know, there isn't an adapter available. Feel free to check Thingiverse or other sites to see if the community has made one.
microswiss is working on one, to be released soon
Nice video! Just curious, what print surface are you using on this printer?
Just the regular smooth glass of the bed it comes with.
What are your slicer settings?
I don't think I changed any slicer settings for this mod.
Nice!
have you mounted your micro Swiss direct drive to the exoslide?
I noticed that your glass bed is upside down. Mine has a rubber like coating that faces up. The Ender logo is readable when I put the glass with this coating facing up. Should my glass bed be installed with the smooth side facing up?
I love my micro Swiss direct drive but I would prefer that it didn’t move so much because of the weight of the stepper. Any luck finding a pancake stepper?
Thanks for the great work
More of a nicety than a necessity.
I'd agree with that. I think it improves my printing experience but it's definitely not required.
nice video, but this system seems too much effort and cost for zero differences
It 's more durable, quieter and is going to require less maintenance.
yeah, that's what I was thinking. Why not directly build your own system based on the ender but with all those special upgraded mainboards, extruders, sliders, power supplies, firmwares.. probably the only cheaper thing on the 5 plus basis is the aluminium.. but as that is replaced, it gets really expensive
I love that t-shirt!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is great!!!!
2:50 that's bs, they are going to wear down to and gunk up with dust and stuff. So in thinking you got monny out of this and this is a payed mod.
No payment received for this. I don't even get commission on sales. If you click the link, you'll notice it's not even an affiliate link. To this date, I've never been paid by for a video (other than ads and affiliate links). Only the products are provided as a sample.
To you point, sure they'll wear down over time. Everything does. I have two Ender 5 Plus printers though and I can provide photos that show the difference in wear and dust collected from both printers.
Woah woah woah hold on there. less maintenance than linear rails? That's a very bold claim... if you have decent linear rails, they nearly clean themselves. They have these awesome little parts on the entrances of the carriage that basically friction fit themselves onto the rail, and when it runs something over, it just wipes it away. If anything, you should only have to take a microfiber cleaning cloth (not the kind for screens or glasses mind you) and simply wipe away what is collected on the carriage. Then you can also wipe the ends of the rail itself, as that is where it'll all accumulate. other than that, you don't really have to do much. you lube them up with a decent lube when you first put them on, and go ham. SIGNIFICANTLY less work than anything else i've seen. With the exception of actual linear rods and really good quality slide bearings.. as those have the same end piece doohicky that wipes up anything on the rod, and you again, just wipe off the edges and boom you're done..
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extruder 220
you remind me of the actor Will Forte
Not a bad comparison! He's a funny guy! 😄
Why wouldn’t I just buy linear rails? This seems to add complexity and variables in a world where we can literally buy high-quality, ready to go linear rails.
Original looked significantly better in every comparison.
this is just too expensive considering the price of linear rails now days and benefits.
isopropyl alchohol? This was obviously filmed pre-pandemic. That shits worth like 4 rolls of toliet paper.
😆 Nope, filmed last week. I keep a supply around.
They all are unless, you believe the factory really wants to give away all the best parts and technology cheep.
new one looks worse lol.
I'm not impressed.
I'm sorry to hear that. Although, to be fair, I wasn't trying to impress, just inform and give options.
@@kerseyfabs No, I didn't really think you were trying to impress me but I did have the feeling you felt this system has some advantages. I disagree and it's expensive.
lmfao, what BS, none of those "problems with stock rails actually exist. That kits just a gimmick presented by a paid shill.
So there is no reason to upgrade any printer with the POM wheels because there are no problems? Why doesn't every manufacturer use them? And how can you deny anything I said when I can show you evidence? I have received zero payment for this video. The only thing I received was the kit itself.
Also, maybe be less of an ass when you leave a comment. Try to be constructive.
Personally I enjoy upgrading printers more than actual printing. These types of upgrades drive the industry which is literally booming. Yes stock enders make beautiful prints. I like unnecessary upgrades because it helps me understand what is going on mechanically. Being able to create linear motion is such a great skill. This guy may get free products or some kickbacks to do reviews, but he is a part of the open source community as and educator. These videos are critical for people like me who want to understand and lack other resources for traditional education. We're all just making it up as we go, and hot takes like yours are part of the reason I'm unable to make my own content. People are so mean when a screen and keyboard disconnects you from the living, breathing, feeling person you're ranting at. Do better for yourself stranger