Things I Hate About The Instagram Art Community | pt 2
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- Опубликовано: 9 окт 2021
- Mohammed Agbadi talking about the Things we Hate About The Instagram Art Community and the most annoying problems artists face on instagram every 👏🏾 single 👏🏾 day 👏🏾
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This a commentary video on the instagram art community, art tips, art commentary, art advice, and fixing art. 
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random account: PROMOTE IT ON OAISNBOAOUOS
THAT'S ANNOYİNG! I WAS NAIVE AND BELIEVED IT. but I didn't pay because I am broke. They were asking over and over and telling they will promote🥺
I get this all the time!! Its so annoying aaaa
IKR! It’s so annoying. I said this in another reply but I feel like I see more bots than real people on Instagram.
Yeah I have this problem with Instagram for a very long time as a beginner artists makes me so angry I'm trying to start my own business but Instagrams like nope you're not good enough I basically just give up on trying to reach new audience so yeah I feel every artist pain😅🤬🙄
Thanks for the info
The worst thing is how it really demotivates small artists.
People want to be rewarded for good work.
Damn, this comment it's so relatable
Agreed. As a small artist myself I constantly feel like I haven’t been accomplishing anything, when in reality, it’s just a cruel algorithm that messes people over.
trueeee!
SaMMEE :(
Small artist here, i honestly feel the same and feel de motivated to post
The "credits to artist" thing makes me so angry I can't even explain
that's probably the most annoying!!
Agreed!! Tell me whoooo
And tbh in most cases the artist watermark or name is right theree in the picture/video🤦♀️ and they still write that
"credits to artist" ISNT CREDIT S ! ! !! i swear didnt we learn this on 2015 wattpad after everyone kept stealing art and pulling this out their ass
There’s also this “credit to Pinterest” thing 😩
Once I heard someone say " Why would I pay you for something you enjoy to do?"
I was so dumbfounded by that line. Why loving your job meaning you shouldn't get paid?
That's just an excuse people throw at artists in a lame attempt to avoid paying them. They want something you produce but devalue it and the creator at the same time, it's crazy.
Anyone who says that type of stuff is a waste of time. They're just people who want everything for nothing. Since society often looks down on artists, unless their old and long dead, they'll act entitled and think they shouldn't have to pay fairly.
@@ClearAbyss Feel like art is something people try to get for free the most. Saying thing like "You are an artist you shouldn't value money and be greedy." or when they didn't feel the need to pay artist more because their passion pay themselves.
Btw is artsstation good
The worst thing about that kind of situation is you might end up having family telling you the same bulshit but why they gotta pay for it. Their family and blood-is-thicker-than-water why we gotta pay for your being greedy and unreasonable I'm your sister or I'm your brother. Like I'm supposed to manifest all these supplies out of thin air😤 and they never want something simple or reasonable
Honestly spamming that one song from TikTok helps with these kind of people. Got someone like that for the first time ever recently and it was THE moment of my life 💅
I am SO so tired of the “pretty girl portrait” trend, it NEVER FUCKING DIES
Even as a person who likes drawing pretty girls, i agree with you
Same here, and not to mention pastel anime/realistic girls and retro anime art are so common/trendy on Instagram as well.
🤣
"Put that thing where it belongs, or so help me!"
I agree. 😑
Well.. people like to look at pretty and cute things, thats why those kinda of drawings gets tons of engagement (unfortunately)
Can’t wait for them to add a feature that delivers more ads. You know, like RUclips.
Yeah.. why bother looking at art when you can look at these various utensils or grocery needs we promote!
Yall have ads on youtube? I never have ads on youtube before :/
Don't give them bad ideas !
They'll play an ad before you can view the person's profile
PREACH!!!
It's basically impossible to grow as an artist these days...
yup.. I've been an artist online for the last 10+ years and used to get followers so easily.. now I'm lucky to get a new follower in a week.
I stopped chasing fame cause it's ruining my mental health, if I can get a few commissions from my few followers then eh that's nuff
Even if you get new followers the algorithm won't let them see your work
Cope
@@neu_dae same…. It’s just been hard to keep up as well
7:00 And that is why you go Settings > Privacy > Comments, turn on Manual Filters and add the words "Promote, DM, Promo". Enjoy living in peace. I know I do since implementing it.
Thank you for the tip
I'm today years old knowing IG have manual filters omg 🗿🗿🗿
I found out about this some months back and it's saved me from all the stupid bots.
I love you, stranger
Thanks for this tip! I had no idea about this, and these comments drive me nuts!
I'll never understand this hunger for the "pinterest-ish cute girl with moist red lips" aesthetic. I feel, everyday i see one in my feed, as if i've seen the same concept, same style , same pose like a million times. I find it deadly boring. But Instagram shows me this stuff over and over instead of the art from accounts i actually follow. I find it more and more annoying to be there and the overflow from content i didn't sign up for and don't want is terrible. A bot might think it understands what i find interesting, but the finesse and details in art i really are drawn to can only be understood by a human. Insta is only a louzy Tiktok wannabe nowadays and a short-attention span RUclips copy. Why didn't they stay in the niche that made them unique?😩
Rocks will become the new Instagram META
Make know sense to me they all look the same. same expression practically the same clothes and pose
I say the same thing about RUclips. They're trying to make the app into another Titkok copy instead of using the actual potential of it.
I always click on not interested. Maybe this aesthetic just doesn't describe my preferences but still-
I really despise the "pinterest prEeTY gIrl" drawings. Cheap likes, cheap appreciations, bland and stale styles.
Bah, henti is more pleasing to look at than those, and that's not saying something.
Finally, it's about time someone speaks about it. As an artist on Instagram, I deal with this shit my self. Thank you
Same, it’s so annoying. Another YTuber I watch (SamDoesArts) also spoke about this issue and it should honestly be talked about more.
you're welcome!
I feel you man
Saammeee
@@Rekter I like his vids
Art reposters: * steals art from an artist's account, crops out watermark * "ARTIST UNKNOWN, *DO NOT REPORT* PLEASE DM FOR CREDIT OR REMOVAL"
Seriously, I don't even take the step to ask them to remove it, I just go straight to filing a copyright infringement report, instagram is usually pretty easy with removing reposts that way.
I also once had someone asking me to undo the report since their account got removed because too many posts got flagged. The audacity.. how about you stop reposting someone else's hard work?
It’s so frustrating as a small artist on Instagram. My follower count has plummeted and stayed the same ever since 2019. Thanks for talking about this because people don’t realize how much time and effort is put into art.
Exactly I made an account like 2 years ago and in a couple months I got 400 followers and getting at least 50 likes each post and my art was shit like poopoo but now I have pretty good art and I nearly have 55 followers I get shadow banned even if I don't post nsfw cuz my accounts have a rainbow flag and my personal account I speak my mind about how everyone should have rights but na insta will shadow ban all of my accounts with the same email like wtf ....god forbid I post an artwork of a black person and tag BLM then my account randomly goes black
same here, I had like 4 or 5 Instagrams so far and none reached 100 followers, now I'm stuck at 60 and losing one or two every new post :'D
@@mushistrauss7360 I was stuck at like 50 for m o n t h s only just reached 60 and there is no sign of growth
Ik it isn't about the numbers but boy does it hurt sometimes
@@catth3rat it hurts everyday, it makes you feel like your art doesn't worth it, like you're useless as an artist, even if sometimes you think your new post could bring something to the table Insta makes sure you keep starving. It hurts every day and every second. I would like to know how many artists gave up, I'm sure half of them are so much amazing than the 4 ones we all see on our feed with 300k likes
Its been 5 months and even if i am more active and got better my follower count didn’t change. It’s frustrating
My favorite artists are all on Twitter. It's literally the best part about Twitter. I never use Twitter for news or discussions. Twitter artists are awesome!
I’m not brave enough for Twitter. The toxic people on there scare me away and I’m not brave enough for politics
@@maninanikittycat4238 No, seriously, it's all about which circle you're in. I'm on private so I can see my mutuals and reply to their posts and only they can see mine. I did private it after some annoying brats thought they were funny but it does work. Also, you could go on Discord servers that just post art with twitter links. So good! You get introduced to so many small awesome artist that you would never have seen otherwise! Everyone is so nice and cool because we're all there for the same reason plus mods keep toxic people in check. Highly recommend it.
How do you make followers there? I have 3 and my post get 0 likes, like.. what's the trick
@@mushistrauss7360 I don't have a lot either. It's just about following popular artists and hope they follow you back and retweet your art.
@@mushistrauss7360 keep practicing, do fanart and use hashtags of said fandom, interact.
I don't care about growing on Insta or Twitter anymore, these few folks who keep enjoying my drawings (no matter when and with what kind of hashtags I post them) are enough for me to support my self-confidence. All these views and likes won't feed me.
Right. I don’t care anymore.
Thats a really good mindset to have, I'd like to take the same approach in time
Agreed, I just post my work on socmed just for a potential client lol.
Yea ri8 what matters is that I enjoy doing it 🙃
This is why I stopped or barely use Instagram anymore, its unfair for artists and the algorithm sucks. The bots in the comments and dm requests are irritating and seems like they’re not doing anything about it, not to mention taking down drawings that has slightly erotic gesture but leave the ones that are basically butt shots
i started getting added to random dm groups filled with bots...so annoying
@@MohammedAgbadi sounds like discord, but at least they’re better lmao
@@MohammedAgbadi i used to get added on random dm bot groups as well, and it was even before i got the whole “promote/dm it on” bot comments
Honestly just promoting on discord is easier at this point- I keep my water mark or tag while sharing though cuz if I don't it might get stolen
@@sasori2425 its either twitter or deviant art, I know twitter is shit from its former tumblr users but I find job opportunities from the people I admire in that platform, their content system just needs work and just follow the right people. Deviant art is still new to me but I heard its really good for being a portfolio
Personally, I've started to upload more and more rarely my art on Instagram, mostly because of the algorithm. I find that Twitter, especially if you're fandom-based, is the best one to kickstart your art getting some traction. Obviously, it's not just about numbers, but it's always nice and encouraging to see your work being recognized.
Dare I even say, the in-your-face marketing on Instagram is one of the reasons why I think over time, people will stop using the app.
@NetherWolf Absolutely, I actually don't think there's any social media where there are no cons to it, unfortunately. So, it all depends on the person
I really want to like instagram since the concept is so nice, but this is so sad. Really wouldn't touch twitter with a 10 ft. pole but now I'm rethinking it. Some told me it's a really good platform for artists, but it's just too noisy. Hmm decisions...
DA, with all its huge flaws and being a dinosaur, still is pretty useful on my end compared to these other two, but people say it's really recommended to branch out.
I didn't find Twitter any useful. Can you please maybe give some tips on how to use it better?
@@sofielindgren3078 I am mostly within the Final Fantasy and Gaming fanart field, and what I found useful is first off, communicating with other artists and giving it time, as well as adding tags to your art of the game and the character (I also add the original language source tag, e.g japanese, so it people all across will see it.)
If we're talking numbers, I suppose the most important thing that I found helped me grow my account much faster is uploading nearly daily (think of it as followers per post) and having a consistent art style. Also, drawing as much of a variety in characters as you can. But most importantly, have as much fun with it as possible so you don't burn out.
Twitter is very hard for me actually. I have 0 likes or comments everytime I do.
I really like instagram's concept being a bitesized gallery. Not much fuss. But even the feed is really annoying to look at now. Wish it had something like youtube with home and subscriptions feeds separated.
Soundcloud is similar. Everything is reposts and I can't filter out the people I'm actually interested in listening to. Soundcloud has no interest in changing this despite this being an issue for about 7 to 8 years now, simply because it makes them more money yet makes zero sense.
Sometimes to me it feels like a graveyard where crap memes go to die
The kind of person that spends several hours on there scrolling every day would literally have to be partially brain damaged to be like "yeah this is worth my limited time on earth".
Yes the explore used to be where promoted content and people you don’t follow are, but now my whole regular feed is people I don’t even follow? So annoying
@@bymidnightoilart4507 that is so weird, mine is still divided into two different sections, maybe it's part of the region or smt
My friends argued under my last post and it got me like 3x the engagement XD
yeah it's a neat trick to boost engagement lmaooo
Yes, let's start a trend of planning out fake nonsense fights to beat the algorithm
@@thegrayneexperiment6768 Me and my friend ones did that it was pretty funny
I created my instagram account years ago. I have over 600 posts documenting my journey as an artist all the way back to August 5th 2017 currently, i have 300 followers. And its so frustrating poring your soul into building up your skill and sharring it, then seeing accounts with 2 posts having 3,800 followers. Its kinda demotivating. I wish Instagram would reward hard work more.
I think that these people archive their posts btw, likely bc they didn't think they were good enough. But yeah Instagram right now is very frustrating for us artists :(.
You and me seem to have similar issues; although I have 201 posts and only have 151 followers. Sucks big time. What's your account name?
I have a very similar experience to yours, almost 300 posts in three years and I interact a lot with other users, and my account never seems to grow, hashtags or reels don't seem to make a difference at all
I feel ya.. I have under 300 after like 3 or 4 years of trying hard to get noticed or recognised. That's less than people I'm following, even.
And then here's the latest caption of a post for someone with 213000 followers:
"😍 GOING TO LA SOON!! 😍 can't wait to be able to wear my bikini outside without freezing my ass off 😂"
Now you tell me who looks like they're giving more of their being into trying to make quality content and be the best person they can be in that regard, vs who sounds like they spent 14sec spewing out the first thought they had when looking at a picture of _their own body_ winking suggestively.
Makes me wish I'd come across one just so she could act like a big deal and look down on me (and then... idk I'd just trip them or be like "who's the gangly lookin b*tch" 😅)
I have 300 post plus another 300 post achieved, over the last 5 or 6 years and I only have around 500 followers, my post gets like 20 or 30 likes, I even tried to grind it by posting everyday for few months. Nothing seems to work I just gave up.
"That is, if you have up to 100 good drawings. Be honest with yourself."
Wow. I mean, you're right, but wow.
Yeah, when I heard that I was like "dude, that wasn't necessery..."
… i don’t even have one, bro
Gotta add on about hastags: The fact that using the same ones shadowbans you is absolutely terrible for fandom artists who draw the same topic all the time. We literally rely on fellow mutuals to hopefully get 1-2 new eyeballs on each post because mostly the same people already follow all of us anyway >.> (when in actuality there's way more people who might like our work that simply aren't interested in getting into a fandom and can't find us).
What I didn't know about it .
I'm doing a themed month long challenge right now. Most of the hash tags are the same 😳
@@jessicaable5095 yes and that's a problem for inktober artists
@@aritrachoudhuri6716 do you have a page we can check out, my dude? (goes for anyone else)
@@jessicaable5095 Yup
What's really annoying is that I noticed I 'literally' only see like 3-5 artists that I follow in my news feed on insta... just because they have a much bigger following and have thousands of likes... at first I thought maybe the other 100+ artists aren't as active. that was until I started to check every account I followed to "declutter" and to my surprise, the artists I thought weren't active on insta have actually been VERY MUCH ACTIVE. but because they have such a small following and/or not enough likes, they don't show up in my feed.... and that really upsets me. it's not fair and it isn't right. I started using Instagram when it was first released, so seeing how much it's changed like this is very depressing.
Yup, and the more you keep liking the same few popular accounts, those accounts will always stay on top of your feed and no one else's art will come up
Sae Byeok is literally EVERYWHERE
Tbh if I got a comment about promoting, I would be confused as to how they got to my empty and artless page
lmaoo!! that's one way to look at it!
That’s exactly what I thought when I got msg and comments about it
tags like drawing or art or anything related. they'll comment at least 10 seconds
It's likely the hashtags you use, they indiscriminately comment on people's pages the moment a post is made using that hashtag.
I actually stopped tagging my work on Instagram with #art because of those spam bots 😣
I need to stop doing that too
#drawing tags too
You can control what comments show up on your art pages! Sam does art has a great video/tutorial on youtube that explains how. But you can ban the "dm this" comment. Ever since I've done this, I haven't gotten any spam comments! I highly recommend
Idk why I just stoped being targeted by them
@@avenley4668 sam is the real one for making that video!
9:36 theres an artist who became the offical artist for the percy jackson and all related book series. She started out posting her art on tumblr and her tumblr bio insists that she does not get reposted anywhere without her direct consent.
an understandable requrest.
but people on instagram repost her art anyways and when fans dm them requesting it be taken down they throw a fit about how it "brings more traction to the artist"- it doesnt. the reposts are often uncredited completely and she doesnt even need more traction. shes not a small creator.
Oh what's her tumbler handle
i sometimes kinda hate the repost feature ngl
My god, as an artist myself I would almost always get those bots. And I had to delete them every time I see them. It sucks
SAAAAMMEEE 🙄. It is so fricking annoying because the moment you get a follower you feel like "Oh someone likes my art", but then it is literally a bot😒.
Same, though I at least know it’s a bot when not even a second from posting the bot comments
I never get them. Probably because I don't tag or never use tags like art digitalart artist doodle and such. Try not using them and see if it works for you.
you can block certain sentences in comments like ,,DM me" ,,send to" ,,3M followers" etc, I did it and dont have those bots anymore
Yeah, the section on the art critics are real, seeing people tear into the art of really good artists and drag amateurs artists through the mud is annoying and also demotivating. Everyone is going to start from somewhere.
Im drawing a crooked hooman once I started to really drawing seriously on anatomy. Not using bases, at all. Anatomy is challenging, and Im scared of getting dragged down :/
The people who criticise others art so harshly are almost exclusively people who couldn't draw a pair of curtains closed. They don't know anything about it so they just assume it's beneath them
It'd be like if you had a baker come into a courtroom one day and start telling the judge off for being crap and making bad calls on the law - they'd get escorted off the premises with some force, so I wish these "critics" would endure the same
Any artist who's opinion is worth it's weight will be supportive of your work or at least constructive in their criticism because they know what it feels like. The rest can go to hell haha
It's really sad about the cute girls thing. It's pretty much standard across all social media. Some of my artist friends that mostly do FPS game art considered going that route just so they can get more attention on twitter. They didn't end up doing it, but the fact that the temptation is there is saddening.
I thought about it too just by watching this video
As someone who has a really small account, I used to be able to break 20 likes (as I said, really small account, like REALLY small) but now I can barely break 6 and half of that is family that have managed to find my account
Hey I’d love to follow you, what’s your Instagram?
Same, I've had an account for months now and I have barely been able to reach 35 followers, and I'm getting like 1-2 likes from irl friends, it's not discouraging me to make less art, it doesn't make me want to post it though, but maybe I'll go to Twitter or any other page that will actually help me grow.
i relate to this comment. I still barely break 7 likes on bubblehouse but I have been even less time without an audience from another platform
My mentor and art teacher always says "your critique should be actionable." Meaning don't tell someone you don't like it because blah blah blah, but give an actionable way on how to fix it as to work on proportion, and things of that nature. Your critique should be encouraging and should help the artist grow.
As a small artist on instagram, it's so difficult to get my art recognized... I was thinking about migrating to Twitter, but its toxicity scares me away...
I'm collecting all the screenshots of the bots that reply to my art, so that I can make a sick collage
I followed you so that I can see this sick collage
there's also a problem that is like the dm credits and scam promotion is bots trying to get self-promote from people or artist to get an audience but really they want to get some more attention and it's weird for someone to dm or comment to promote them when you want some more people to see you to :/
omg so truee😪😩 totally giving us the "high hopes" for thinking that someone could possibly commenting something nice about our artworks but it turns out otherwise.. not good :((
@@MarizabelArts ik :((((
When you think about it; why would THEY ask YOU to dm THEM to promote YOUR work?
@@vianneyu5339 idk it's just stupid tbh
I've honestly been considering going back to deviantart of all places because of how impossible it seems to grow an audience as an artist these days. I have more people following my deviantart from middle school than I do on my instagram or Twitter combined
Agreed, DA is still poppin
I dunno... the rollout of eclipse has severely cut engagement. I still use DA as my main platform and granted, my watcher engagement has always been bad (1k to only 30 to 50 favorites and I've been on there for over 10 years) and since Eclipse swooped in, my general favorite count has hit 15 to 25 if it's my own content. Fan content reachest around 30 or 40....
Yeah, that's just me but I know others have been struggling since the horrific change.
I've noticed since rejoining that not as much kink-related art has been on the main page and a lack of spam/bot accounts. It feels like real people are on it now.
try art station :)
Deviantart is for babies or artists that were grandfathered in back in DA’s prime lmao
You know what's something that annoys me the most? I post a drawing of a w/w ship and get comments that just say: "🤢🖕🏼" or "I don't like it/eww" etc. Stay tf away then homphobes 🙄
Or people commenting that how I draw women look like men just cuz I don't go big boobs/hips and lashes to the gods.
Anyways great video as always you're one of my favourite art youtubers.
Instagram is frustrating but there will always be artists to support each other! Stay positive friends, all our art is valid and numbers don't determine that 💕
gay
@@PumpyGT 😐
ngl I relate to you with the people getting annoyed that you draw people with big “assets”
This man is spitting out FACTS. It's so annoying, all those scammers everywhere. I feel so relieved that someone finally speaks about it, honestly. It's so frustrating to see small artists not getting the attention that they deserve. And the thing that really bothers me is the fact that Instagram hides your content from all your followers. I don't know if it's something that only a few artists have to suffer, but it's so annoying how the algorithm works.
“Feature accounts” get so much more attention in the algorithm than actual creators. Because they can produce high quantities of content (by stealing… *cough* “featuring” art from other people)
Social platforms constantly tell creators that quality is more important than quantity. I’d love to see them actually follow through on promoting the right accounts in the algorithm so these content “farms” stop thriving while the real artists struggle to grow.
Every bloody time I see these "promoting @" in my comments, I get really self-conscious about my artwork. Then I saw other artist get more likes/followers, I fell into depression. I'll be lucky enough to have two digit likes in my post. I keep thinking on "how" and "why" until I felt I worth nothing and that my parents and classmates were right on my skill. It took me a long while to get back to my feet and look at the bright side.
I had to mentally beat myself up for thinking in such negative way and strive to focus on what I always love. I tried so hard to be something I'm not by creating according to trend that I nearly loose my own style.
Moral of the story: followers and likes is just a number. You may look at it and feel defeated. But as long as you get back to your feet again for something you love, you can find alternative to strive and reach your goals.
Take care of your mental health ✌❤💕
Social media is a depressing pit for small artists these days. Glad you got yourself out of it as well. An irl network helps with that so you still have family and friends to talk to.
Its really really rare for me to not get self conscious and actively mentally beat myself up over something
Instagram it's really bad, I'm seeing lots of artists struggling a lot, and im seeing it myself, I only grow with reels-
Honestly at this point u just wanna focus on Twitter or other social media🚶♀️🚶♀️
It's being hard to get reels idea, honestly it's getting worse😭
And honestly as someone who loves drawing boys, I see the difference, girl posts get more, you can't even draw what you want wtf
If I'm being honest I just couldn't handle posting my art on twitter cause twitter traumatized me a l o t before 😃 so I just post my art on insta and hope I atleast get 30 likes
@@enetelight_9308 oof-
I hv no idea how to get seen on twt lol n reels arent even available in my country so fk :D
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. they aren't available?
And for Twitter I grew thanks to artshares and hosting artshares too!
And even if using reels help, the viral audios show up like in every third post so it gets really annoying.
I wish Instagram could do something about the spam bots because they’re so annoying
But for now whenever I see a bot I’ll report it for spam
The promo bots are part of the reason I often forget to make Insta posts. I get so dissuaded by having to wait for all the bots to come in so I can block them and delete their comments.
Also, yes, the horrible commissioners!!! I once had someone email me saying they believed I was the perfect artist for them because my art was super high quality but also cheap (which is...so rude?) and they asked how soon I'd be able to get something done for them. I explained I was in the process of moving and wouldn't be able to start any new projects for about a month, so they dropped me on the spot because they couldn't be bothered to wait that long (it was for a personal piece, btw, not something that had a deadline).
Like--- one of the rules of commissioning is that you can't have all three... Part of the reasons my commissions were so cheap despite the higher quality at the time was because I'm slow to work. This person got upset that they were struggling to find artwork that was cheap, professional-level quality, and had a fast turnaround. I sincerely hope they realized how stupid and scummy they were being.
One more thing to add: reposters get more likes than the creator
a few years ago i got a few of my drawings stolen and reposted over 20 something pages, so i went to each one and asked them to take the posts down, they ignored mefor the most part so i reported them and insta decided to ban me from commenting and following people because i "abused the report feature" :))))))))) i hate this site sm
My drawings are too bad no one is gonna stole them 😂
@@Hahshdhbcbcyoutube i thought the same tbh, but all it takes is to make fandom content and bam, chances of it getting stolen get much higher
I stopped posting art on my Instagram and now exclusively post on twitter because of how little traction my stuff continuously got. It feels IMPOSSIBLE to get any kind of engagement, at least I get a little bit of an audience on twitter, even if it's very small, its better then having no interactions what so ever.
I find it really hard to get aaaany attention on Twitter. Like.. it's even worse than IG on that aspect. Any tips?
@@gintarebaskeviciute5672 dudee same! I stopped using twttr because mostly I got scared of art theft, my insta acc. Is mostly attracting people than twttr for me
"small accounts" he says..and proceed to show a freaking big accounts. Yeah. They're definitely struggling..
second this.
I’ve been an artist for pretty much my whole life and I’ve only just recently gotten into instagram. My engagement has been absolutely horrible. I barely have 100 followers and most of my engagement has been through close friends and maybe 1-2 actual people that engage with it. It’s been horrible cause I know my art is good, and I know I’m very skilled, I mean, I’ve been drawing my whole life and have been honing this skill for over 10 years. It’s just been so hard to get engagement
What is your user id like to follow and help out!
thank you!! my username is toastiitoez, like my youtube username :)
i use my instagram on and off for my art because instagram clearly doesn’t care about artists frankly
so recently i’ve been trying to use other platforms as well as instagram yet somehow instagram is still getting me the most engagement which is a bit pathetic :,)
Yeah. I feel you on that. Trying to get started on twitter has been an absolute pain in comparison to how it was for Instagram
Oh god, same boat
I'm so glad he talked about this! I'm honestly so sick of Instagram, I'm thinking of moving platforms for my art, but I have no idea where to go.
Me nether honestly, I find that it's very difficult to move platforms if you don't have a good amount of followers already
Even those "art tips" accounts are a scam. Reposting stuff (tutorials) from artists, then getting big on IG. One time, I saw a post from that page, went to the artist's account, and saw that the artist don't even allow their posts to be reposted. Also, I can't speak for everybody on this, but I have met a lot of toxic people on those types of accounts. Claiming that this specific tutorial is the only way to do it, etc. etc.
And one commenter called me an "insecure artist" for saying that the tip isn't for all art styles and there's also another way to do it. Like, okaaaay???? How was that insecure tho?
I agree with all you said, Mohammed. Recently I felt like something was odd with Instagram, because I follow some artists and hashtags related to art, but, without notice, the app started showing contents I haven't asked for. Now that I think about that, it comes to my mind another issue, a really annoying one: I love watercolor, but for some "unknown" reason random people in the beach or with bath suits tag their pictures as "watercolor". Come on, people! And I've noticed the thing with the hashtags. They simply do not do any difference in the app. I suspect that even my friends don't see what I share, because I rarely receive any notifications or updates from them as well. Instagram is dying because of greed.
One of the worst parts of Instagram bots it's when your a small/amateur artist and posts something, get excited that someone commented and turns out they were bots..... 😭 This happened to me twice now. :(
yes it’s happened so many times
As someone who just started using instagram with only 205 followers as an artist..I've been trying my best to be consistent on my art posts and I've used like 10plus hastags for every post i make and still get like 3 to 5 hearts and ngl its sometimes destroys my motivation to draw more high quality arts but I always try not to take that to hard cuz it's bad for yourself...I wish all the artist working hard out there gets rewarded and be succesfull one day we can do this my kings, keep moving forward! 😊👌
i dont post that much now on ig, i know people say "followers are not important" but seeing like 11 followers doesnt feel rewarding at all for the hardwork you put in your arts (i suck too lets not forget that)
My previous comment likely was marked as spam, so I'll just say this. I have these issues too! The bot comments are the worst..I end up deleting so many when I post anything! I like how insta works so I'd like to keep using it, its just unfortunate that its gonna be much harder to grow a platform..I don't do art for numbers, however I do enjoy some pay out!
Edit: RUclips comments seem to be against self promotion of any kind, so I sadly can't include my Instagram here
If you check their profile and look at their newgrounds you should be able to find them under the same name. This is the best I can do for you
one thing on instagram that always makes me roll my eyes are the roleplay accounts that only repost artwork of the character they're supposedly roleplaying as. they always have usernames like "character.officiial" or something. they RP based on the picture they reposted and i just find it kind of creepy. no hate to RPers but don't use other ppl's art for that... :/
THIS - rping in posts is fine, but they could at least use official art
Honestly it's getting very annoying
Ikr! Whenever I post my art there’s always bots saying stuff like “pRoMoTe It On [obviously sketchy account]”. Like I just want to share my stuff without some annoying bots telling me to promote it on this or that for 1 second.
The only reason I don't report the bots is because they're the only interaction my art gets now lmao I'm unable to post every single day like the algorithm wants me to, so I've been stuck at ~30 followers for a year.
😩☹️ right
relatable😶
I used to post everyday and still didn't get any traction on Insta. The algorithm makes no sense to me
@@chrissiep7363 It keeps changing is the problem. Back then it was just likes/comments, then people told me that others had to send it to their friends through IG's own messaging, then the "save to collection" was the new requirement.... Basically sounds like someone needs to use every single interaction button beneath the post to make any kind of traction, which is not what typical people do.
It's starting to remind me a little bit of tumblr, because at one point, tumblr was a pretty popular place for artists to post art, but nowadays, because of the new user features that people don't use (ex. chats, though they actually were removed after the latest update), the uneven likes to reblogs ratio, constant spamming of pornbots, nsfw ban (led to less artist exposure as a result of some artists being banned mistakenly and failed to rid of the porn bots) and the hashtags kinda being a bit useless. I post my art on there, and have been since 2015, and due to this, I was considering instagram to post art for a long time. But now, I'm rethinking about making that decision to switch to instagram as you made some pretty good points about how instagram has gotten worse because of the user features and other problems that are currently occurring.
8:48 something similar happened to me one day. I'm not a super talented artist with lots of followers, but I do a lot of comics and artworks of a very famous ship of a famous video game, who get a lot attention. A few of these pages were sharing my stuff with and without my permission, but there was always credit to me and my page was always linked. One day I found one of my comis on said profile without proper credit. I asked them politely to credit me or delete the post. The dude said "f*ck you" and "I don't give a f*ck about your feelings" then they blocked me. I told my followers and asked them to report my comic, what a lot of them did. Eventually the thief deleted my comic and later their whole account.
Thank you for this video 💖💖💖
I started posting my art on TikTok a few months back and noticed it was getting a lot of attention, but it was all the wrong attention. I was completely bombarded with comments from “art critics” that were completely tearing my art apart (all while not even showing their own art btw). Every artist is learning, so for people to act like they know more than you without anything to back it up or show for it is annoying as hell. I decided to stop posting there as the same comments would show up every single time and it literally felt like they were spamming me at one point. Like I’m sure real artists that actually know a thing or two about their craft and have knowledge on the subject would be more busy actually creating art than leaving unsolicited advice to random people on the internet. 🥀🥀🥀
Your last sentence hits hard, not gonna lie 😅
im pretty sure they can't even draw a straight line lmao
Usually I do give some beginer artist advice. If they asked me
I can't be the only artist who has problems with growing on both Instagram and Twitter or anywhere else... 😭 😭 😭
You aren't alone! I feel you
Don't worry. Me too...
It's awful :(
I’m so glad someone is speaking out about this. As an artist on Instagram myself, getting my art noticed is very difficult. I’m still pretty new to Instagram, so it’s pretty difficult to have any semblance of a schedule, then since Insta likes videos, I have to learn how record my art and editing software, blah blah blah. Now, I’m trying to find a different platform, but it’s kinda annoying since I put so much effort, time, and research into Instagram 😩😒
This is so true. I feel bad for new art account. Some of them are super talented and their posts don’t get any views and likes. My home feed is full of ads insta posts and random posts from strangers. I don’t see any of my artists friends posts at all unless I go into their feed from time to time to support
Instagram sucks... From the stupid format to the algorithm. We need a decent artist social media
I also don't like that Instagram images have to be certain dimensions. My work ends up being cropped in a way I don't want it to every time. And it's kinda tiring going through the effort of editing the image further just so it'll fit and work just fine, or to confine myself to that size. I like to make single full body images of characters and so I'll crop an image so it's just the character with very little empty space around them.
With this, the algorithm, the bots...I dunno. I don't like using Instagram that much
I’m the beginner artist.. yes i like posting my artwork on iG.. but this video just slap my face to make me realise that life is not always beautiful.. 😭
Agreed. I'm not very small, I have like 2.7k but it's stuck on that because people keep following and unfollow and the only way for me to get like is through popular artist to share my work. People complaining that people over 1k is enough and no more, I wanted to inspire my art through people just like I got my art inspired by other artist. It's really demotivating to grow since I've stick at 2.7k for almost months.
keep inspiring other artist! I have 99 follower on december 2020, and now still 348 🤣🤣
Relatable on follow-unfollow 😭
Thank you for talking about this, I'm a small insta artist and it's really hard to grow your account when you're not getting enough reach. I think it also affects how you feel about the art as well, like it's not good enough. For me I try to be positive when making art and not letting social media get to me. When it comes to scam accounts trying to promote your art, I muted comments that have promote or DM in it and it seems to work.
As a small artist i feel this, non the less i am gratefull for what I have and the art friends i made and amazing artist i encounter.
As a small artist I can confirm how absolutely shit instagram is. Whenever I post, the only engagement I get is losing a couple of followers and instantly getting at least 2 comments from those annoying art promotion pages that I then have to block and delete.
Also, at some point I noticed how every fifth post on your timeline is an ad, and I checked again now and it seems like it's every fourth post now.
I don't use the app anymore.
The so called critics can be useful. They always want to have the last word. So if you aren't bothered by them on what they write. React back, engagement to your post is good for the algorithm🤣
Its definitely better than "Promote it on this scam."
Its so disheartening. Before I could post my art on IG and get recognition, grow and see how my hard work paid off, and as one who want to be able to live of my art this was great. Gave me hope and a reward. Nowadays no matter what I post, not many see it even if I have a pretty great following from before. And my followers only keep dropping away. Its so stressful and I start to question myself and my art like "what am I doing wrong? Have I gotten worse?" I can only imagen how it must be for new artists on the platform. Its sad.
the repost accounts really grind my gears the most. sometimes they never even ask the artist for permission to repost it, only for the artist to barely get recognition. I feel like they purposely don't tag or leave the artist's username in the account so they can't get caught for what is basically stealing art. it's just really shitty that these accounts can get away with this
This video voices my inner thoughts about Instagram.
I'm a small artist on Instagram and I'm unfortunately stuck with it at the moment. I want art station but you have to be 18 to have it :)
Instagram reels can be fun but fun fact: alot of ppl, including me, are shadow banned on there. So reels don't get reach but normal post do:D
It the weirdest thing
Also Instagram doesn't appreciate it users so ya know
Enough of that rant😩🤲🏼
This video was amazing and made me laugh lol it a whole situation😔✌🏼
What's your Instagram @? I want to give you a follow :D
@@astraregulus2672 sorry this is late- I didn't see it;) it in my yt description- Transparent.Futaku my handle lol
@@mumblyfutaku you now have a new follower^^
Ive given up on instagram for many of these reasons, tbh idk how anyone gets a following anymore. Twitter, Instagram just ignore you, Pinterest youre prolly gonna get your stuff stolen, Deviant Art has become just as hard to get seen on as any other.
I get those scam accounts on almost literally any of my drawings, its so annoying
This is literally the reason why I feel like giving up on art sometimes. I feel like artists we have to rely so heavily on social media now, but if your art is even slightly different that what they consider popular. The algorithm hates you😑 you literally cannot get noticed unless you pay for adds and post every single day. It’s really exhausting…. I’m over it.
I’m so glad you made this video so glad to see it
thankyou!
Wich platform you think is good for posting our work? Nowadays with all this algorithm things is just so hard, or I become a social media freak or I draw/paint/study. Is really hard for me to do all of that at once :(
I'd like to know too!!!
@@vi0let831 me three
I hate using reels, the TV thing, and stories. So now Instagram hates me too!
I have around 120 followers, which isn’t much but I don’t really care, and every post I do gets around 15-20 likes. That’s AWFUL reach. For an app whose logo is a camera, they really hate people who post photos.
couldn't have said it better 👏🏼
Instagram became really depressing for me as a growing artist and it's very demotivating.
If anyone knows of any platform that is good for artists then please share with us :(
Being consistent with the algorithm is also really tiring
I have another one, mostly on tik tok, the edit accounts almost NEVER give credits to the artists and then have the nerve to cry over not having recognition or support for their edits that are almost entirely made of stolen art it makes me so mad because when someone points it out they say that the effort to make the edit was theirs and sh#t like that and refuse to give credits or they don’t even know the artist and make no effort to find it 💀💀
Trying to block those idiotic scam "art promotion" acounts is basically pointless, they're endless...
I'm just starting out or still at the beginning stages of my IG page, but it's so hard to grow because of the algorithm and the oversaturation of art pages. I feel like IG pages are for art are just for quick consuming and it does not always lead to real jobs in animation or illustration. I've mostly only seen artists get commissions and if not that the likes on each post are what gets the money. A lot of artists are aiming to work as professionals but have no way to break in without knowing someone/networking, instead of their artwork and talent itself. I feel like artists only use Instagram because it's the ONLY source where you can get your work out to the internet on people, it's either that or twitter. And you are right you do have to draw cute girls or you won't be relevant. It's even hard to get your art out there drawing fanart.
Every artist had a right to be paid for the work they do as commission as they spend their precious time on making something on others will even if they are enjoying it or not. They put their skills which took them years to build those each and every skills .the supplies they use are of good quality to give quality work. But people be like you keep drawing celebs why can't you draw us for Free but why we should draw anyone for Free. We draw celebs or anything on our own will but when we do customize work people choose what we will draw that's why it's never can be for Free. We should never do those things for Free which people rarely can do and art is a rare skill .it's also a job .
These giant social media companies should also pay artists for publishing their work on to their platforms as well. Mark Zuckerberg said out of his mouth that his platforms are publishing platforms.
I get the "promote it on blah blah page" all the time!! It's always discouraging because I don't get many comments on my stuff so I get the notification and see it and then and am really happy until I see it and my excitement deflates😔
Pro tip for dealing with the promotion scammers. In the user settings, you can type in certain phrases to be blocked from your comments, such as "promote it on" or "DM it to." This stops 99% of those bots from harassing you further without a need to block every new account that pops up.
I'm not sure if I accidentally deleted my comment, so I'll say it again:
To prevent spam bots, try going to Instagram privacy settings and clicking on *hidden words* . Type what words you want to hide in your comment section; I chose to hide words like "DM" and "Promote", and the annoying spams disappeared from my art acc! :D
this is the reason why I went twitter, its just much more engaging for me as a beginner
Honestly, as a small artist, I had depression because of Instagram. I struggled with the problem of getting reach and felt like most of the people don't see what I post. But I just decided (somehow) to post my art and hope to grow with other small artists... So thank you for speaking my thoughts :D
All of this is true. I'm an environment artist but on IG I mainly just post little stylized sketches, bc the app just doesn't work well for highly detailed paintings & illustrations
Yeah exactly, the quality of posted drawings is shit and the method of zooming in to see more details is just absurd
Whenever I post my art on Instagram, it annoys me when I get those bot comments because I hardly get any legitimate comments. It makes me want to use it less and I feel more inclined to make it a place for irl friends and family to see my work. It's quite hard to move to different art-friendly platforms such as Twitter (the most miserable, toxic site ever) or Patreon (which I am considering but I don't have the time for it yet) tbh
Omg, I can relate to this so much. I almost got scammed by one of those promotional accounts when I saw their comments on one of my posts. Luckily I knew something was up when they mentioned the prices. I didn't know about those types of accounts before, so I'm glad he brought it up and bringing awareness for those artists who may not know.
This bots are going to drive me crazy I have like 100 followers and I get 20 likes per post but two or three bots show up in my comments every time I post, and I tried to block words like dm and promote but for some reason the comments still appear, now I just report the account they were promoting and the bot account itself. I think it's even more annoying when the bot follows me and then dm me, because I am a tiny account every time someone follows me I get happy for then get my hopes crushed when I discover it was only a bit trying to scam me
i feel this, i haven't really found a good platform to post my art on. almost everywhere theres bots or a chance of a bot commenting or liking your work
OMG, those art bots are EVERYWHERE on Instagram. We've been told to just add their comments to our hidden words list, and they still come back! Also, Instagram is the WORST place for small artist. Smaller artist are totally discouraged on the platform.
Sometimes random sketches of hot guys i draw, do so much better than works i spend hours on and ngl it feels shitty
You made another video about blocking tags but it doesn't work they still get through. T.T it worked for a while but then I started seeing them again. I even tried blocking variations. I wonder if ig makes enough money from these accounts that tag blocks don't always work. It's hit and miss. I've had to straight block these.
i doubt instagram makes any money off these accounts and its more or less run by some weirdo some where trying to scam unknowing people
@@MohammedAgbadi Ok. I do see ads on RUclips teaching people to make money off of artists work using ig, it's an unethical ad I fear teaching copyright infringement. Have you seen those ads. The I can't tell you here come on over ads.
This explained so much about my instragram art posting. I was told to use a ton of hastags, get those weird "DM to promote" seconds after posting, etc. I was very turned off by Instagram as a whole.
“They’re as useful as an elephant in a mine feild” - if I could go back and redo my high school yearbook quote this would be it