The WORST Art Advice I have Ever Heard (you probably hate these too..)

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  • @justsometokyodollar1842
    @justsometokyodollar1842 2 года назад +5796

    I hate vague art tips that tell you to go after whatever you want to and that's it.
    "Just practice" practice what-
    "Just draw"

    • @PlanetaryVenus
      @PlanetaryVenus 2 года назад +217

      it makes me feel unmotivated

    • @MothGodSpectreDXIX
      @MothGodSpectreDXIX 2 года назад +45

      69th like
      also It irks me
      I abhor it
      I dislike it
      I HATE THAT
      right I'm done

    • @justsometokyodollar1842
      @justsometokyodollar1842 2 года назад +22

      @@MothGodSpectreDXIX righttt

    • @TomEyeTheSFMguy
      @TomEyeTheSFMguy 2 года назад +26

      Practice drawing shapes, maybe.

    • @aliciasam5239
      @aliciasam5239 2 года назад +10

      @@PlanetaryVenus same. Your username reminded me of the character I sorta want

  • @Not_Soundwave
    @Not_Soundwave 2 года назад +5063

    I remember my art teacher in high school didn't necessarily hate or even dislike the kids who drew anime styles. His policy for it was just "Practice realism and use references so that your stylized art improves too."

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +1271

      well at the very least he was good and kind enough to give every kid a chance, some of my teachers just didn't want to see anything that didn't look like a shinny well polished bottle with beads of water dripping on it

    • @ifadha6519
      @ifadha6519 2 года назад +100

      @@MohammedAgbadi
      Pleaseee 😭😭

    • @inaanjakossowska6990
      @inaanjakossowska6990 2 года назад +228

      I was lucky to have an art professor like that - he just told me that I can draw comics/manga style to my heart content BUT learning realism is not only important but also will help me with that. You should know what you stylize😊!

    • @shade3520
      @shade3520 2 года назад +30

      Mine values realism more, since my realism-focused classmates get all the projects, but I get good grades with my more anime style.

    • @anyo168
      @anyo168 2 года назад +3

      @@MohammedAgbadi 69likes

  • @sharonwong5688
    @sharonwong5688 2 года назад +3260

    The 'taking breaks' tip is SO important. I can't tell you how many times I've stared at a drawing in progress for so long wondering 'why does it look off?' or 'how do I fix this?' and then going on a break or taking a nap and then coming back to the drawing to realise... There was nothing wrong with it at all. Treat your eyeballs and brain like your beloved pets, guys. Treat them well!

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +240

      yes!!! taking breaks is so underrated tbh, it helps you so much to just see things differently. i remember watching dave rapoza paint and he always took breaks but i never understood why till i started painting and drawing myself

    • @vaporean_boylove.0w083
      @vaporean_boylove.0w083 2 года назад +10

      I do try to go in sessions at a time so I don't burn out from the piece.

    • @ravenscarlet7749
      @ravenscarlet7749 2 года назад +20

      I learn that the hard way. Years ago when I was in Art school and near our university entrance exam. 8 days before the exam, I drew continuously 7 days, from 9am to 9pm. On the 7th day, my friend forced me to take a rest because I was in “color blind” state, like I couldn’t see colors anymore, everything was grayscale. And it was terrified. Luckily, after a day, my vision came back to normal.
      P.S: in my country, to enter Art University, you need to attend a 3-4 hours exam where they give you a topic and you need to draw/paint a piece based on it

    • @arsenic3086
      @arsenic3086 2 года назад +4

      Taking a break is really good even just to stretch, give your wrist a break, move a little

    • @Loctorak
      @Loctorak 2 года назад +8

      Take breaks, and also "not every project needs to be finished and perfect" - I used to get stuck on progress cause I didn't want to continue what I was working on but didn't want to start a new thing till I finished it. I had to teach myself to just leave things lie if I wasn't vibing it because it's always the best decision in the end

  • @justintep7995
    @justintep7995 2 года назад +2779

    not using reference for art is like trying to write a book without looking at a thesaurus ever, especially as a beginner writer

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +307

      Lmaoooo i have never seen a more accurate analogy, ever

    • @Normal_difficulty69
      @Normal_difficulty69 2 года назад +52

      im drawing for years and just started getting help from reference like a week ago 😅

    • @vqiixen9554
      @vqiixen9554 2 года назад +11

      when i stopped using references, when i draw hairstyles, it is quite repitive so i try to use references more.

    • @creerlloydllanos9044
      @creerlloydllanos9044 2 года назад +16

      Oh shit I've been writing the wrong way the whole time so you actually need a thesaurus? I want to become a manga artist so I kind of practice drawing and writing a good story I've already got some ideas for a story

    • @alyangelflight
      @alyangelflight 2 года назад +35

      Ironically, using a thesaurus would be included in a video like this about novel writing... The actual appropriate analogy is "like trying to write a book in a genre you've never even read".

  • @lord_planc
    @lord_planc 2 года назад +480

    "Don't use references"
    Funny, considering that the infamous Mona Lisa painting is based and referenced on a person sitting on a stool and smiling at the painter

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +66

      likeeeeeeeeeee

    • @LocketInThinePocket
      @LocketInThinePocket 2 года назад +35

      LITERALLY THOUGH, many historical artists weren't shy to using models / references! Anyone who says not to use references completely goes against what the old masters used to do!

    • @galacticdust7993
      @galacticdust7993 2 года назад +15

      @@MohammedAgbadi That "advice" almost killed my development in art 3 years ago, i used to think i was a tracer if i even dared to use reference and i pushed myself to get everything from my mind but that obviously didn't work well
      Glad i changed my mind on that one

    • @ThePapaja1996
      @ThePapaja1996 Год назад

      Back in ancient rom art coping, was something that was fully accepted and often priced as good.

  • @hahamadeyouread214
    @hahamadeyouread214 2 года назад +2685

    Drawing furrys are fine, drawing anime is fine, drawing realism while abusing what it looks like is fine, art is weird and its for everyone to enjoy, preventing someone who is interested in a style can kill their passion for it

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +229

      so true!

    • @vaporean_boylove.0w083
      @vaporean_boylove.0w083 2 года назад +92

      Pretty true. Art evolves with the artists tastes and likes. Like for me I like a somewhat toony to kinda referenced Anime style. My dad on another has is more into realism when he paints and can basically kinda print something from irl.

    • @ruefysh9576
      @ruefysh9576 2 года назад +11

      Wait, drawing furries *are* fine? Shouldn't it be is?

    • @Loctorak
      @Loctorak 2 года назад +32

      The only thing you should be drawing... is for your enjoyment. Who cares what it is - even weird tentacle hentai.. if that's what you want to draw then I say go for it and don't let anybody shame you for doing it

    • @ARandomEliatrope
      @ARandomEliatrope 2 года назад +6

      @@ruefysh9576 both are correct

  • @heyyou9137
    @heyyou9137 2 года назад +1472

    Xx: “Don’t use references, draw from your memory”
    Yy: “But memory is the collection of references, but more blurred”
    Xx: *Surprised pickachu*

    • @madina404
      @madina404 2 года назад +47

      Holy shit you made me realize something

    • @junokalita_
      @junokalita_ 2 года назад +22

      Someone tell my mom that, I'm too scared to answer anything she opposes

    • @e_i_e_i_bro
      @e_i_e_i_bro 2 года назад +44

      This is why it find it kinda funny when people think they're the shit because "all I need is my memory". Meanwhile that must be frustrating as hell to pull a blurry bootleg version of reality from your head and put it on paper. It may work in some situations but for the most parts, references are key.

    • @sageyt4808
      @sageyt4808 2 года назад +34

      Xx: Don't use refrences draw from your memory! Just use your minds eye!
      Me: I- I HAVE APHANTASIA! :((((

    • @allright9785
      @allright9785 2 года назад +1

      FR FR

  • @nisa_j1245
    @nisa_j1245 2 года назад +3318

    Fun fact:Just because you can draw doesn’t mean you’re gonna be a good teacher :D

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +623

      hahaha just because you can't draw doesn't mean you'll be a bad teacher too!!! hahah

    • @AzizidarkReborn
      @AzizidarkReborn 2 года назад +164

      This is a very good point. People like Marshall Vandruff and Stan Prokopenko and Ryan Benjamin just seem out of touch with a lot of modern (ie digital) art enthusiasm. "Don't do digital, do pencil and paper, that's how you get a job". I mean, sure, sometimes. But digital portfolios are good too. But just because YOU understand 4000 pieces of the anatomy of the body and can draw bones connectling like robot parts doesn't mean it's gonna teach me how to draw cute anime girls or emotes. And telling me I need to do all that anatomy shit before I get to have any fun AND STILL SOMEHOW DRAW EVERY DAY is bogus.

    • @raindancejam9466
      @raindancejam9466 2 года назад +3

      I agree

    • @trizz8209
      @trizz8209 2 года назад +8

      It reminds me of my biology teacher, they were really good at drawing.

    • @math1937
      @math1937 2 года назад +12

      Oh my god yes, I’ve thought about how I might answer someone if they asked me how to draw and I always think “ *I have no clue, I went to art school and just did what they told me to and here I am* “

  • @humblemarty
    @humblemarty 2 года назад +1150

    The most useless art tip I'd ever had was never do fanart. To be fair, college was never excited about fanart but the office staff loved cartoons and I had one art teacher that asked me to do Manga style artwork for him on purpose because he knew it would annoy the school administrators.

    • @conchesodan
      @conchesodan 2 года назад +192

      tell your teachers classic art is fanart of the bible and greek myths... let's see if they have a reason to talk back... problably you'll get some kind of punishment but you know... an history art fact for ya ;)

    • @spacetacos7574
      @spacetacos7574 2 года назад +25

      @@conchesodan I’m pretty sure you can sue for unjustified treatment if they’re punished for that

    • @cottencandykitten
      @cottencandykitten 2 года назад +28

      If i didn't draw fan art, i wouldn't be colabing with the people i colab with... And so many comic artists and animators wouldn't have the jobs they have working on the shows they love. Can you imagine if noella stevens didnt draw fan art?! there would be no new she-ra!!!!

    • @thefurry7165
      @thefurry7165 2 года назад +22

      @@conchesodan That would be like telling a literature teacher that The Divine Comedy (Dante's Inferno), considered a great classic of literature, is literally self-insert fanfiction lmao

    • @NecrochildK
      @NecrochildK 2 года назад +9

      @@thefurry7165 XD I mean it's not wrong.

  • @psychromaniac3525
    @psychromaniac3525 2 года назад +955

    For beginning artists I say this:
    1. Reference. Everything.
    2. When looking for something to draw or practice with, start with a subject you enjoy or are familiar with. It could be anything really, manga, real life, cartoons, so long as it's something that inspires you to keep drawing.
    3. Don't get discouraged if you're not drawing exactly how you envisioned when you first put your pen down, chances are you're going to draw something you hate at the end. The point is to take away the lessons from what you've drawn and carry them forward. Art isn't about getting to the finish line fastest, it's about how far you've come from the starting line.
    4. REFERENCE. EVERYTHING.

    • @sampokemppainen3041
      @sampokemppainen3041 2 года назад +49

      And by referencing we mean look at the subject, not to trace the subject.

    • @jackswanson1725
      @jackswanson1725 2 года назад +1

      Whoever is reading this,
      I hope you have a great day!
      Here is some artist inspiration for you 🎨 ✨
      ruclips.net/video/gHi-OYi570s/видео.html

    • @razena1732
      @razena1732 2 года назад +15

      That's actually pretty solid advice, you mind if I use it? I've been getting a lot of requests to teach kids how to draw and I never know what to do or how to teach them😅😅😅

    • @psychromaniac3525
      @psychromaniac3525 2 года назад +6

      @@razena1732 go for it!

    • @Loctorak
      @Loctorak 2 года назад +3

      I've slowly come to learn #3 over the years, and it probably would have helped to hear it at times along the way but oh well

  • @sharonwong5688
    @sharonwong5688 2 года назад +1399

    I'm very lucky to have studied in an art college that had lecturers who didn't discourage artists who wanted to do 'anime/cartoon' style. They first teach us fundamentals that are based in reality before teaching us how to transition into more stylised methods.

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +130

      that's so cool!! what college did you attend?

    • @Love2Banime
      @Love2Banime 2 года назад +27

      Wish I had the teachers you had. All of mine were awful. 😞

    • @JokeHatesItHere
      @JokeHatesItHere 2 года назад +7

      Dang I wish I had your art teacher

    • @dargonfrot
      @dargonfrot 2 года назад +3

      @@JokeHatesItHere i recognize that profile picture

    • @JokeHatesItHere
      @JokeHatesItHere 2 года назад +2

      @@dargonfrot *N o*

  • @_Yeeboi_
    @_Yeeboi_ 2 года назад +1234

    When people says dont use black, theyre mostly saying dont use black then lower the opacity and draw with soft shade because that'll make it look dull and weird. Using black like the comic books is 100% fine

    • @BunnyGxre
      @BunnyGxre 2 года назад +125

      Yeah, never shade EVERY. SINGLE. DRAWING. in black. Yes, it can look good, but it’s about moderation :)

    • @crablegs1
      @crablegs1 2 года назад +137

      Actually it refers to painting. Its such a strong color that it over powers all other colors

    • @hayes1035
      @hayes1035 2 года назад +142

      Realistic and Landscape styles avoid pure black. Black is a very unnatural color. Most objects have some reflect color of other near by objects. If you put a "black" ball in a red room and pay close attention you'll notice that ball will be covered in subtle red tones. So these style usually just go for a very dark color instead. In my red room example a realistic artist would most likely only use a dark red instead of black. (this is the same for white as well).
      But like other said it all depends on the style and the look you want to achieve.

    • @cozmicdoodles7167
      @cozmicdoodles7167 2 года назад +41

      I used to only ever shade with black at a low opacity and when I finally stopped doing that my art instantly started looking better. Especially on my brightly colored stuff. I had never noticed how dull it could make a picture look until I stopped doing it.

    • @ratajamieson5828
      @ratajamieson5828 2 года назад +45

      the lowered opacity black + the airbrush tool is the worst combo imo

  • @Harudodo
    @Harudodo 2 года назад +2353

    "You won't get anywhere if you draw anime"
    Me, an aspiring manga artist: *_What do I draw then?_*
    Edit: A lot of people are interpreting what I said the wrong way- I studied anatomy for two years before really stylizing my art so I do know the basics :)

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +220

      lmaooo

    • @SpringDavid
      @SpringDavid 2 года назад +189

      I know, draw a

    • @deerlovingqueer5519
      @deerlovingqueer5519 2 года назад +164

      @@SpringDavid Oh yeah! and draw a

    • @Harudodo
      @Harudodo 2 года назад +144

      @@SpringDavid oh gosh, why didn't I think of that?! I'll just draw a

    • @idontexist1966
      @idontexist1966 2 года назад +111

      All of you are wrong, you should draw a

  • @theoneandonlyobeymefan2758
    @theoneandonlyobeymefan2758 2 года назад +689

    I legit used to think that I was a bad artist because I didn't have the motivation to draw every day and I really wanted to improve.
    Only to realize I can go an entire month without drawing and still get better. It doesn't really matter how much you draw. What matters is if you're willing to take risks and experiment. And also using references is great no matter your skill level and tracing is fine as long as you're not stealing anyone else's art and trying to pass it as your own.

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +100

      i went 8 months without drawing. although i was looking at art, but i just wasn't practicing. but once i came back and started again i improved faster than where i was at before the break!

    • @theoneandonlyobeymefan2758
      @theoneandonlyobeymefan2758 2 года назад +42

      @@MohammedAgbadi Oh yeah, that's another thing! I guess as long as you're consuming art, your visual library is expanding even if you're not aware of it. But it depends from person to person and you have to find out what works for you as an artist.

    • @papagaiofilmes6642
      @papagaiofilmes6642 2 года назад +1

      Omg me

    • @madina404
      @madina404 2 года назад +9

      @@MohammedAgbadi that's because you also need to train your eye. Noticing and tracing shapes of people (or anything else) with your eyes is important, I recently learned this and it's so helpful. Before, I got too absorbed in my own drawing and barely looked at the reference.

    • @Loctorak
      @Loctorak 2 года назад

      SHUN THE UN-DRAWER

  • @chaoticgodly8833
    @chaoticgodly8833 2 года назад +479

    Someone: Art can’t be that hard
    Me who still can’t draw a body after 4 years: So who’s gonna tell them?

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +49

      lmaoooo

    • @artykeldeo
      @artykeldeo 2 года назад +63

      i’ve been drawing for 8 years and god fuck i hate drawing feet hands and bodies.
      heads are still my favorite thing but my bodies look like they have debilitating scoliosis. help me-

    • @chaoticgodly8833
      @chaoticgodly8833 2 года назад +14

      @@artykeldeo H E L P

    • @descendantgaming5410
      @descendantgaming5410 2 года назад +13

      I still can't draw hands that well 😶

    • @Chowmein_
      @Chowmein_ 2 года назад +5

      @@descendantgaming5410 same bruh😭

  • @thatspiritthingthatfollows4229
    @thatspiritthingthatfollows4229 2 года назад +388

    Dang the art teacher saying that the "nOsE iS tOo BiG" was just being racist. How tf did they even get a degree to teach kids how to draw??

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +108

      it was so ridiculous reading that comment!! i would have been so annoyed listening to the teacher saying all that and drawing on my work!

    • @thatspiritthingthatfollows4229
      @thatspiritthingthatfollows4229 2 года назад +80

      @@MohammedAgbadi I would have dropped immediately. If you can't handle diversity and different kinds of art then you aren't worthy to teach me lmao

    • @conchesodan
      @conchesodan 2 года назад +22

      probably the same type of teacher of "don't do anime!" like... sir/miss that's literally one of anime rules... wtf

    • @ladyseshiiria
      @ladyseshiiria 2 года назад +51

      I never understood the concept of a bad nose.... That's so irritating to me. I have a big nose and I'm white. Lol like big. So big noses aren't exclusive to one race or another. Some are wide, some are long, sticking out, some are etc... That teacher needed to shut up and sit down.

    • @tt-qq4xq
      @tt-qq4xq 2 года назад +3

      timestamp?? pls ^^

  • @ssstoma
    @ssstoma 2 года назад +262

    "just draw everyday" led me to not drawing for months and scrapping all my art. not the best advice :/

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +29

      that's terrible, i hope you have found a way to get back into making art my friend

    • @willadkins1354
      @willadkins1354 2 года назад +18

      From a memory psychology perspective, you should have gap days for studying anything. It’s like how you rest your muscles from a workout.

    • @Bobo-Nose
      @Bobo-Nose 2 года назад +4

      Draw whenever you feel like it.

  • @BunnyGxre
    @BunnyGxre 2 года назад +271

    I think learning realism “first” is the right message worded completely wrong. Yes, when you’re doing art you should learn about placement and anatomy, etc., but that shouldn’t mean your actual style needs to be realistic

    • @ploppledoodledoo17
      @ploppledoodledoo17 2 года назад +38

      This lmao. I have done realistic proportions on my portraits, but almost everything else like the colors were all stylized
      Developing art styles should start with elements of realism, then building onto that. Legit, its probably the best thing i've ever chosen to do.

    • @spacetacos7574
      @spacetacos7574 2 года назад +15

      @@ploppledoodledoo17 if you don’t understand how things look originally
      How are you supposed to draw a stylized version of it

    • @vlo4829
      @vlo4829 2 года назад +19

      Yeah, a lot of people claim they're "bending the rules" (aka: using proper anatomy/lighting/shading/etc.) or that they don't follow "rules", because of their "style" when the truth is, they can't actually draw properly and they're trying to cover it up. You can't actually "bend" the rules if you were never able to follow them to begin with...

    • @vay5540
      @vay5540 2 года назад +8

      I personally think learning realism alongside more stylized art styles is the best option! It’s worked for me at least.

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 2 года назад +8

      This is exactly how I feel. Learning the fundamentals is important, yes, but you don't need to spend a year or two just doing those exercises your art teacher told you to do. For those fundamentals to be useful, you need to apply them to what you're trying to do...which you can only do if you actually try it. Your art won't look spectacular at first, but you'll get better over time and be closer to achieving what you want to achieve than if you just drew a bowl of fruit every day...unless you specifically only want to draw fruit.

  • @queenie_ie
    @queenie_ie 2 года назад +211

    The "realism before cartoons" advice is why i only got B's in my art classes in high school.
    "You understood the concept, but you didn't use realism!!"
    Utterly killed my enthusiasm for drawing whatsoever for a very long time lol.

    • @FabbrizioPlays
      @FabbrizioPlays 2 года назад +12

      "You understood the concept" should be the end of the statement, really

  • @Styxintheriver
    @Styxintheriver 2 года назад +390

    The best art advice I can give is this:
    Don't compare your art to the art of others, compare it to your previous works.
    I used to judge myself every time one of my friends would post some of their amazing stuff, but it wasn't until I looked at something I drew a year ago that I realized how much my art had changed within that time. You should do that, it's so much better for motivation

    • @cozmicdoodles7167
      @cozmicdoodles7167 2 года назад +15

      THIS!!! I used to compare my art to others all the time and every single time it was such a bummer. But then I did a redraw of something I drew several years prior and realized just how much I'd improved! That alone gave me so much motivation to keep drawing because I finally saw how much I'd improved without realizing it!

    • @ginamillondaga9598
      @ginamillondaga9598 2 года назад +4

      I mean if u do it right like u compare your drawing to it for motivation and hope that one day u will draw good like that .

    • @Stothehighest
      @Stothehighest 2 года назад +3

      This is really good advice. Thanks. (I'm learning the basics from DrawABox and I was still giving myself grief about not quite matching what the lesson said I should be. But then I dropped my binder and well... shoot... I'm much better now than I was at doing ghosted lines when I started. I'm glad I dated everything.)

    • @Honey_Badger.
      @Honey_Badger. 2 года назад +4

      Actually I am always comparing my art to others art. Then I know what I want to change, learn or try out. Just don't look at it that negatively, that your work is 'worse'🤗

    • @An.Unsought.Thought
      @An.Unsought.Thought 2 года назад +8

      I think you absolutely can if you have a specific goal in mind. Just have to look at it in a positive way. Use others as inspiration and exploration. The fastest way for you to discover what you like is by looking at other artists. Every professional will tell you artists that have influenced them through their work. You're absolutely right that what matters most is the progress you are making from one piece of art to the next and so on. But there is no reason you can't take a couple techniques from here or there to help bring you closer to what you want to produce.

  • @celesiamigardine4903
    @celesiamigardine4903 2 года назад +315

    The only reason why I draw everyday is cuz I like drawing everyday, you can't really expect everyone else to be able to do the same

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +65

      this is true! most people will not have the courage or time to draw everyday

    • @conchesodan
      @conchesodan 2 года назад +3

      exactly

    • @vay5540
      @vay5540 2 года назад +1

      I literally can’t draw everyday, I usually do it three or four times a month at most. So yeah, it really depends on the person and pressuring yourself often ends in burnout. I’m mot going to deny that drawing more often usually results in more improvement, though.

    • @ragmamale4783
      @ragmamale4783 2 года назад

      SAME SAME-

    • @NoiseDay
      @NoiseDay 2 года назад

      I think if I drew every day, I would quit drawing altogether. I love animation. I want to be able to draw in order to tell stories. I don't know that I enjoy drawing. Maybe someday, when my skills improve enough that I can easily transform the images in my head into images on paper/the screen.

  • @zeldadevorak42
    @zeldadevorak42 2 года назад +233

    Something I CANNOT stand are those images with two almost completely identical sketches that say, don't draw this, draw this! Or something like that.
    Things like that can be so degrading for artists starting out because then they feel like their artistic process isn't valid because they aren't drawing something a certain way. Your artistic process is unique to you, draw things how you see fit!

    • @ladyseshiiria
      @ladyseshiiria 2 года назад +12

      I agree, some of the fonts are just a style and it's knocking a style! I found this irritating.

    • @Lanibugg143
      @Lanibugg143 2 года назад +11

      The ones I’ve seen for the “do this not that” are almost always cr@p. Ex. this person was doing a “do this not this” for a hat, but then they proceeded to draw two COMPLETELY different hats, like wtf

    • @9suicune8
      @9suicune8 2 года назад +5

      they also dont explain WHY something is 'wrong' or whatever so people just dont understand what they're being criticized for
      like if it's smth for anatomy say 'ok so the way the human body actually moves is smth like this, or be mindful of proportion' or smth
      it's definitely discouraging for beginner artists but it's also useless to more "established" (i use this term loosely) artists

  • @diegogarcicruz6134
    @diegogarcicruz6134 2 года назад +390

    Not really an art tip but I remember posting something about how I went for a simpler style for drawing while I learned how to do naturalism. The first comment was “This is example #1 of how and why you shouldn’t draw”.
    First, uncalled for. Second, it was a drawing I did for fun, I’m not making bank or anything. Third, the comment could’ve been more constructive if it was meant to be “critique”

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +101

      most people don't take into context what anything is online and just jump to their own conclusions immediately. talk about a better way of showing ignorance

  • @karlmark9967
    @karlmark9967 2 года назад +132

    When I draw hands, I trace them from my hand, take a picture of it, put it in the drawing, trace it, although sometimes it makes my characters seem like they have big fat hands because I have big stumpy hands. I'm lazy but this method helped me more than "You just need to draw everyday"

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +36

      this is a very good technique as well.. eventually you'll understand how the shapes work and begin to draw them all by your self

    • @karlmark9967
      @karlmark9967 2 года назад +11

      @@MohammedAgbadi oh yeah I did notice that. I didn't need to picture my hands to draw simple hand gesture. As usual your videos really are eye openers, like Ethan's and Proko's.

    • @bigboomer1013
      @bigboomer1013 2 года назад +6

      I found a weird way to draw hands by drawing lines directly on my hands where the joints and "seams" are. Basically a simple wireframe kind of thing. That way I can see how the joints look and the angle of the fingers are positioned and the length of the fingers when in forced perspective view. I made a MEAN looking hand. Oh yeah and i have to take a photo of my hand too.

  • @hell_jpeg4976
    @hell_jpeg4976 2 года назад +196

    the worst part about "don't draw anime/manga art styles!" is the fact 'anime artstyle' is a vauge term.
    What does it mean? Does it mean sharp-edged shonen styles? Or more moe/shojo styles? What about unconventional anime artstyles like PSG and Kaiba? And if the argument is it's not realistic, there's plenty of semi-realistic anime out there. With how varied anime/manga can be, how is "no anime" supposed to let someone know where they need to improve?

    • @aquabluerose7734
      @aquabluerose7734 2 года назад +16

      So true! I draw in a rather realistic anime art style that has lots of gradiented shading and dull, dark colors. On the other hand some anime have cel shading, vibrant colors and highly stylized characters, it's a huge range!

    • @Yuunarichu
      @Yuunarichu 2 года назад +13

      As someone who follows many anime artists they can have painterly to cel shaded styles. They're endless in stylistic and artistic choices.

    • @errortryagainlater4240
      @errortryagainlater4240 2 года назад +6

      There are even more realistic "anime" art styles like Junji Ito's, so...where is the line? I'd love to see their opinions on that 💀

    • @L0rdOfThePies
      @L0rdOfThePies 2 года назад

      I think they just mean semirealism, anything that is not texture and picture perfect...

  • @fandomtealio6524
    @fandomtealio6524 2 года назад +116

    I remember this bad art advice: “draw with only sharp angles”
    It did not help because when it got to the top of the head and making hair look like hair, I would get just so confused.
    But anyways great video I loved it

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +45

      hahaha i won't say it's completely bad advice. in character design using sharp angles makes the character look menacing and evil. so you can apply that to your characters but not by basically making everything sharp, but infusing hard sharp edges in the general shape and design of the character itself. check out tbchoi's tips on character design she explains it well

    • @autumin6843
      @autumin6843 2 года назад +9

      I find sharp edges can help understand muscle structures when it comes to anatomy, but usually I draw over my sharp angled sketch with softer lines depending on the look I’m going for.

    • @spacetacos7574
      @spacetacos7574 2 года назад

      Man be making that diamond man from regular show

  • @heyyou9137
    @heyyou9137 2 года назад +94

    I guess main art advise that a lot of people should listen is: “Take your time”.
    Bcs a lot of beginner and amateur artists are tend to try do progress as fast as possible and gain subs/patrons/following as much as they can. But in the process they forget why they have started drawing in the first place.
    Just take your time and enjoy the process. After all, you should enjoy your painting as much as the viewer

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 2 года назад +3

      When I was first starting out, I saw art styles I wanted to emulate perfectly right then and there (even if I vaguely knew it took the original artist years to get to that point). I'm better at applying certain techniques to my art now, but it took years to get me to where I am right now.

    • @lorrainedaloba7292
      @lorrainedaloba7292 2 года назад

      Oof, I get so mad when my art tuns out bad, when U was rushing. I wanted to get good fast and the easy way. I had to learn the hard way ( tears and all) that art takes time.

  • @Valkari22
    @Valkari22 2 года назад +51

    When I was in college for concept art my profs basically drilled it into our heads to ALWAYS use a reference and to make our own. Me and my classmates would always ask each other to pose or make a silly face so we could keep it in our library. I'm not sure when this "you can't use a reference" thing started but it's incredibly detrimental to your art and your career.

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +8

      it's probably one of the laziest and unrealistic advice i have heard. it just doesn't help in any way!

  • @YanUchiha1
    @YanUchiha1 2 года назад +56

    Art advice I got in high school from my art teacher was "Stop drawing anime, It's not real art it's just copying! There is no style"
    Then proceeds to make the whole class make art with words by tearing apart books..... Like wtf??????????

    • @JokeHatesItHere
      @JokeHatesItHere 2 года назад +6

      Yeah highschool art teachers tend to be kinda annoying in my experience

  • @lukalunar5284
    @lukalunar5284 2 года назад +52

    i feel like the "don't shade with black" has been taken out of context and repeated so many times that it's lost its original message. whenever i hear "don't shade with black" as advice for artists starting out, especially digitally, they do go to use a black as an overlay layer. which when decreased in opacity - makes the colours more muddy, and using a red or a blue or anything really would make it pop more. i feel like it was never supposed to be applied to the solely black shading used in comics - because using 100% black doesnt make the base colours less saturated? but maybe i just misinterpreted what people meant lmao

  • @ewwisuwu5835
    @ewwisuwu5835 2 года назад +170

    honestly giving resources to learn from is way more helpful than giving advice, a solid book/website recommendation and a word of encouragement is the way 💯

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +21

      Totally agree! everything from loomis, samdoesarts patreon, dave rapoza's patreon and tbchoi's course is all i'm into now adays...totally great! i wanted to signup for mike azevedo's painting course but i don't understand portugese

  • @LeoTheMuppet
    @LeoTheMuppet 2 года назад +69

    Its like my visual arts class, we draw every other day and it kills my motivation to draw

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +14

      i think you need a break! take some time off and find your motivation again!

    • @LeoTheMuppet
      @LeoTheMuppet 2 года назад +15

      @@MohammedAgbadi I wish I could, but its a mandatory class in my schooling

  • @bn9611
    @bn9611 2 года назад +58

    People glorify the idea and aesthetic of having an art style when they fail to realize that an art style is just an artist's way of perceiving the world, processing it, and drawing in the way that they see the world and how they want to express it. An art style isn't something that you can wish to have like it's just some store bought thing. You can take inspiration from it, from parts of it, but trying to copy it is just hollow. You're just copying how things look in a style like a robot, and not drawing with actual thought and personality. An art style always changes, because people change. I often hear people say they they envy other people's styles, or they wish they had a certain style, but it sounds like they don't notice where it comes from in the first place. Tbh, I think people should be less conscious about wanting to have a likeable or recognizable style, and just learn and draw and improve on themselves. Wanting someone else's style just adds you to a group of people who also want that style and doesn't make you unique at all, and just holds you back as an artist. I also think it's important to learn how to find a certain artist's style beautiful, but also accept that you are completely different people and it's okay to not feel like you'd *ever* draw like them, nor even have this expectation for yourself in the first place. Like... stop comparing like that, it ain't healthy.

    • @vlo4829
      @vlo4829 2 года назад +4

      A lot of people also use "art style" as a cover for their lack of skill and/or inability/unwillingness to improve.

    • @NecrochildK
      @NecrochildK 2 года назад

      lol Honestly, I wish I had refined a style. My own default was always really bland.

  • @griffin1188
    @griffin1188 2 года назад +49

    I litteraly just commented on that post holy-

  • @808yuri
    @808yuri 2 года назад +16

    Some tips that worked out for me:
    1- When in need of inspiration, start searching random clothes and accessories online, it helps when designing a new character. If It doesn't work try redrawing a random image from your gallery, even your old drawings too.
    2- I usually like to avoid shading using black, but you can use it in celshading (like the comics style) or hashuras (the straight lines used in manga or "cartoonized" realism).
    3- To find your artstyle you can look at the things you repeat in every drawing and stylize it to make it more obvious. You can also try to copy the artstyle from different artists that you like the most, all in one drawing. Go crazy with your tastes, but remember to try new things too, you might like it.
    4- When you don't know how to color one drawing, search a palette on the internet. Each palette has a different vibe to it, so it's easy to find one perfect for what you're looking for. Try studying color theory too; even without understanding how to put your knowledge on the paper, you can always continue to try.
    5- Take breaks when you need it, but also draw everything that's in your head. There's some times we have art block, but also inspired as heck; draw them even if you think everything you are drawing is ugly. Someday you can go back and get inspired again with those old drawings.
    That's all, if you think something I've said isn't right, just tell me.

  • @paulj505
    @paulj505 2 года назад +58

    I will never understand people who are saying that using references is cheating. Using "art" AI or photo filter and maybe change colors a bit is cheating. Stealing art is cheating and well... stealing of course. Overall, at least I consider all "creating art" with no effort, cheating. So how creating a new artwork from scratch with a photo of a pose for a base as an example could be considered cheating? Especially when old masters like Leonardo da Vinci were using references.

    • @NikkiG1134
      @NikkiG1134 2 года назад +7

      If using a reference is cheating then thinking about a hand and drawing off of it is also cheating :3

    • @sampokemppainen3041
      @sampokemppainen3041 2 года назад +16

      I think people mix using reference and tracing, and they do it on purpose, to confuse and derail the subject.

    • @NikkiG1134
      @NikkiG1134 2 года назад +10

      @@sampokemppainen3041 Or their just idiots

    • @shandya
      @shandya 2 года назад +14

      They probably seen some professional artists draw swiftly and thought that the drawing came up magically from their imagination. “If they can do that, then that’s the right way to do it.”
      What they didn’t know is these professionals probably have drawn that same image over & over again thousands times, it became a muscle memory. But when they first started, they also look at the reference images, just like us.
      Orrrrr, they simply have an off screen monitor to display the references that the audience can’t see.

    • @yarou3124
      @yarou3124 2 года назад +1

      Art itself is a reference from reality

  • @PlanetaryVenus
    @PlanetaryVenus 2 года назад +9

    i remember last year of me being bad at art, whenever i share my art, ppl keeps insulting my drawing and using an ill to joke abt my art as a "criticism"

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +3

      ohh that's terrible. don't listen to any of them and just keep practicing!

    • @PlanetaryVenus
      @PlanetaryVenus 2 года назад

      @@MohammedAgbadi thank you so much! after that happened, i left them and do my perfect pratice work to prove them wrong!

  • @ektortheartist
    @ektortheartist 2 года назад +42

    i want to share my opinion on things:
    It really grinds my gears when someone says that all you need to do is draw/practice, because even though practice makes up the majority of time you should invest in, people just cant seem to explain the entire thing. Practice what exactly?
    My take on this is:
    Understand, Study, Practice.
    First of all, understanding how something works allows you to recreate it better, because you understand the purpose of each component, and therefore, how it would act in various different scenarios, situations, and circumstances. This is where you should take a QUICK, and i stress the word QUICK, look at anatomy and proportions. There is no need to learn them in depth yet.
    Second, expanding on the first point of understanding is, once youve got a basis to work on, you need to put the information received to the test. The best way to do so, i'd say, is to just draw an image that features everything you want to learn, such as, let's say, a full body, featuring a dynamic pose, or something. Draw it once before you start learning/studying, once after, and see the difference. If i had to guess, i'd say there would be a few substantial differences, but there would still be lots of stuff that needs to be worked on. Your drawing should roughly look like how you want it to, but it has many little mistakes all over it, everywhere you look. This is where the third point comes in: Practice.
    Finally, after having understood the basis of drawing, and you know what you need to do better, and what you seem to already have the hang of. This allows for much easier practicing, since it can be broken down to the different aspects that make up your mistakes. You couldnt hope to understand those things if you didnt have a grip on the basics that you need to even form those very same mistakes. After understanding how you need to draw a certain thing, it gets way easier to understand how not to do it.
    Finally, that was my opinion and advice that i could give on the matter. I know that ive left out some important stuff, but this was the rough idea i wanted to convey.
    Any corrections are highly welcomed, im by no means a professional, but i at least know what im doing

    • @oratank
      @oratank 2 года назад

      yeah the word practice doesn't just mean drawing it mean you want to solve your own art problem make it look better. How? the easiest way is just simple compare your art to your inspiration or the hard way you need to learned how it work

  • @Kitykitycoco
    @Kitykitycoco 2 года назад +8

    The best piece of advice an art teacher ever gave me was to stop drawing so much actually. Basically she told us that not everything you draw needs to be finished, that you don't need to spend hours on a piece, and that sometimes less is more. She also really emphasized the importance of time management and deadlines, something i see even people who've mastered their craft struggle with

  • @brianp7504
    @brianp7504 2 года назад +15

    Its because of RUclipsrs like you that I feel more confident in drawing.
    thank you 💞😊

  • @johnmivule-novabow8143
    @johnmivule-novabow8143 2 года назад +41

    you know what i don't hate tho.. . the fact that this awesome person uploaded again
    keep it up

  • @johnbrewington2539
    @johnbrewington2539 2 года назад +16

    Anybody else remember the “draw a circle, divide in three, then a triangle underneath for the jaw” to make manga heads? Great advice if you want all characters to look exactly the same

    • @jagrutisoni2729
      @jagrutisoni2729 2 года назад +2

      Lol I know right
      I'm still struggling how to draw faces in different shapes. I just end up with results I despise.

    • @kamaraalya7607
      @kamaraalya7607 2 года назад

      @@jagrutisoni2729 it's hard because our brains deafult to what's easiest for us

  • @vortex3010
    @vortex3010 2 года назад +19

    Wow, the "don't take a break" advice is I think the worst advice not only cause it won't help you get better but for your health. It is so important to take a break and stretch. This goes for anything you do that requires intense focuse be it writing, drawing or playing video games. Without taking breaks and stretching you are asking for trouble with your back and wrists in the long run. I mean I totally turn into a gremlin when I draw and most people I know don't maintain good posture while drawing so take a break, go for a walk around the room, stretch your hands (don't shake, I've been told that is worse for your joints), and get a fresh glass of water then go back to enjoying your drawing.

  • @Flumperer
    @Flumperer 2 года назад +35

    Don't know if this is good art advice or not, but one thing I've noticed with myself, now that I'm starting to get back into the groove of doing art, is that comparing myself to those who obviously have had more experience and know what they are doing, is not the mindset I should be thinking of.
    The mentallity I had was "How to I get on par to them?", when it should've been "What can I learn from them and bring that to my own work?"
    The thing I needed to realize back then was that I shouldn't have to be on par with those artist because I don't need to be those artist, I can develop my skills in my own time and do it at the speed I'm comfortable with, at least that's what I feel like I've learnt.
    I feel like this was more like me ranting about past me being silly but I felt like putting this out there.

  • @flowermuncher
    @flowermuncher 2 года назад +12

    "just draw everyday" ruined me. i drew everyday even if i didn't have the motivation and energy and it made me hate my art. it ruined my self-image and always doubting my abilities in art made me doubt my abilities in everything. i fell into an art block that lasted a couple of months and i had to completely re-learn drawing because i just forgot everything about my art. i didn't remember how i used to draw faces, hair, bodies, literally everything. stopped following that shit advice and starting taking breaks and man, that was so much fucking better. it helped me actually start improving my art

  • @a2lan123
    @a2lan123 2 года назад +21

    Not gonna lie, I bought a "how to draw manga" book back when I was a kid, and I actually learned from it.
    I'm deadass serious, after reading that book I was able to draw characters that actually look human.

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 2 года назад +10

      Yeah...those odd "how to draw manga" books might not be the most useful things in the world, but for someone who only has experience drawing stick figures, it at least teaches you basic concepts and whatnot.

    • @sweatpantsstrawberries8981
      @sweatpantsstrawberries8981 2 года назад

      me too! I used to not be able to draw bodies at all, and now after that book I can draw them buch better, lol

  • @totallynoteverything1.
    @totallynoteverything1. 2 года назад +29

    tbh when drawing I just do whatever

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +14

      sometimes i just do the same. other times i go in with a proper idea,,,and end up doing the same again lol

  • @_Yeeboi_
    @_Yeeboi_ 2 года назад +30

    People who says using references is cheating are the same people who thinks using a calculator on a math question that requires one, is cheating

    • @fridsrikenileri1268
      @fridsrikenileri1268 2 года назад +4

      Using keys in instead of lockpicking is also cheating x) jk

  • @nose-rice
    @nose-rice 2 года назад +18

    "You're bad a drawing, fix it" just..what?
    1: "Only use dull colors"
    2: "Only use vibrant colors"
    3: "Only use realistic colors"
    4: "color your lineart"
    5: "Use black lineart"
    6: "Don't have linart"
    All: Those all need to do with style but I'll go through all of them since I have nothing to do
    1: some people's art look better with more saturated colors, and using dull colors when everything is usually vibrant can put an offset to the mood too!
    2: If everything is vibrant, nothing will stand out color-wise, and some artstyles work better with other colors :) (I prefer to use colors more to the vibrant side but not ALL THE WAY UP on the meter)
    3: Colors can be used to set the foreground/midground/background from eachother (ex: backgroung and fore ground are dull blue tones but mid ground is pastel red tones) It can work with a lot of styles but a lot of the time it can make a drawing look bland if not used right
    4: This can be used to make things look soft and welcoming, but some people don't role with that. I like harsher lineart (if I do use it) to emphisize the harshness (lol is that a word).
    5: Some artsryles are softer, while mine isn't, I can see how making soft lineart helps vive a more happy vibe, it can even be used to throw someone off! Maybe you wanna ddlc style of story, then a soft styles would go well for throwing us off
    6: this does help to see if the colors are too close or if they don't go well together, but that doesn't mean using linart is bad. This is prett much like the rest, but with a different set of words so yeah.

    • @halcon2494
      @halcon2494 2 года назад +1

      la cosa mas importante es, si tu dibujo luce como una mierda, puedes usar colores en harmonia y que no contrasten demasiado con los otros colores y tonos de tu dibujo, esto lo puede hacer muy bueno y le da una estética mas minimalista.

  • @MidnightCapricorn2696
    @MidnightCapricorn2696 2 года назад +23

    for that "draw from the bottom up" one, and I do want to call out a RUclipsr for this, the only youtuber I've seen say that was Lavendertowne, and that was in the context of better posing.
    I also tried it, and no, it didn't work.

  • @dragonskunkstudio7582
    @dragonskunkstudio7582 2 года назад +36

    I told someone once: Hey! If your art style is incorrect anatomy colored with primary saturated colors then you already mastered your skills.

  • @aaliyahfarhoud9343
    @aaliyahfarhoud9343 2 года назад +10

    Man I love how you make the videos watchable but also able to listen to without looking while drawing and such!

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +2

      omg thank you! i enjoy making videos and i'm Glad you enjoy them!

  • @ackruhii32
    @ackruhii32 2 года назад +9

    For the "Draw/practice everyday" i agree with it personally. However, don't draw full art pieces just like that everyday, that's how you'll feel burn out and stuff. What I used to do was draw a good piece on a good day, see what I like and dislike, then practice what I dislike whether it be eyes, symmetry, clothing or color choice.

  • @ShiftingFixations
    @ShiftingFixations 2 года назад +12

    “Take breaks” YES YES YES YES YES! I don’t consider myself a good artist, not really, but what I am good at is seeing what’s “off” in a thing I’ve drawn and fixing it until I feel it’s no longer weird. That’s how I get from my weird first drafts to a final product I’m ok with showing off! It’s a lot of “eh, something’s weird about the face, let’s try 20 things to see if I can identify the problem and solve it.” That’s easier in digital than traditional but I do it in both! But to do that I MUST take breaks. I’ve gotta step away from it. I can be so sure of a thing looking ok, but the next morning I’ll go “the legs are too long” or “the mouth is EVER SO SLIGHTLY at the wrong angle.” Sleeping on it, stopping to eat, or even working on something else for a bit is part of my process at this point, lol.
    Also “don’t draw [insert thing here]” kills me because I get a lot of that with OCs. Like as if drawing OCs is bad because “people won’t get it” or “no one will care about that.” Please. Maybe it’s not FOR them to get! Maybe the communities I’m in where people love to draw, write, and share OCs is who I’m drawing for. Maybe drawing OCs, fandom stuff, or otherwise “nerdy” or even “cringe” subjects (which can include anything more blatantly prevalent online than in my real life, tbh - memes, furries, game art, anime characters, manga characters, etc.) ARE what is teaching me how to draw humans or animals or backgrounds or whatever. Motivation isn’t always easy to find and when you have it for a subject like that, there’s no shame in it. Not everything has to be subject matter that might be found in an art museum. (Anyway, fandom-involved folks and definitely the furry community will pay a decent amount for art of their OCs, even if people in the outside world don’t understand it, lol.) “Don’t draw X?” No, draw what you’re gonna draw. Just make sure to learn the fundamentals to help make that art better!

  • @GabrielTheMagolorMain
    @GabrielTheMagolorMain 2 года назад +9

    Easy...
    "Your not trying hard enough"
    This is literally used whenever someone isn't drawing "good enough." My art isn't at a manga level and that's ok.

  • @NikpumpOff
    @NikpumpOff 2 года назад +14

    Drawing every day advice sucks.
    Like, what if... I don't want to draw?
    Great video btw

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +2

      Thank you so much 😀

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 2 года назад

      Even as someone who loves to draw (sometimes drawing multiple drawings in one day), I don't necessarily draw every day. I might get invested in playing a video game or maybe I'll be busy with something else.

  • @dotlinedot
    @dotlinedot 2 года назад +15

    The reason that artists say to draw realism, is that it becomes a first step to help you stylize. If you want to o n l y draw anime for the rest of your life, then that's your decision, but realism helps you get any style based on real objects or figures. I'm not against anime, but this is my view of it.

    • @HYPERxSONICxFANx2012
      @HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 2 года назад

      I've drawn realism once or twice

    • @robitherat8182
      @robitherat8182 2 года назад +10

      Honestly, drawing realistically isn't the best advice tho. Or at least it's not the best way to phrase it, imo. I think we need to encourage people to break things down into shapes, more than studying full realism. Get your basic forms down, study your light and composition, study your values and colors, all that, but that doesn't rlly mean you have to learn realism. Realism is just a style, and different people have different ways of using realism in art. Look at the different historical art movements. Baroque and Rembrant and Van Gogh all did realism (sometimes, at least) but they used different techniques and wanted to communicate different things with their work.
      Don't learn "realism", learn artistic principals and then use what works for what you want to do. If you want to have a more western-cartoon style, exaggerated shapes and bright, poppy colors are a good way to go. If you want to create dramatic scenes, color and value theory, as well as perspective are your best friend. Anime and manga? Expressions are gonna be a big focus, as well as fluid looking forms- not really realistic, but still believable while being dramatized. See? You don't need to learn realism per se, but look at the art you want to create and figure out what principals you need. Composition and balance are pretty important to all art, so thats a great starting place, as well as light/shadows, and form studies so you can break things down into shapes and understand what you're picturing better. This is all just my thoughts tho, obviously, I hope this didn't come off as rude or pretentious lol I just really enjoy art and studying it :^)

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 2 года назад +4

      The impression a lot of beginning artists get when they're told to "draw realism first" is that they need to draw a hyperdetailed 100% accurate depiction of a person even if that's definitely not what they want to do.
      Knowing anatomy can be useful, but I don't know if you necessarily need to solely practice realism unless that's what you're trying to go for. It can be just as useful to redraw a screenshot from your favorite show or do a pose meme with your OTP. Though I've tried realism here and there, I mostly got to where I am through self indulgent art and I've still improved drastically from when I've started.

    • @dotlinedot
      @dotlinedot 2 года назад +1

      @@TuesdaysArt learning gestural figures is a good step for anything imo, if not realism. I personally found realism first being a really good starting ground of info for me and it allowed me to get to where I am now stylized or not.

    • @Scribbleehead
      @Scribbleehead 2 года назад

      @@TuesdaysArt FACTS👍🏻

  • @asapling
    @asapling 2 года назад +6

    After 4 years of my art being the same it i started taking some good advice and started improving my art is it a little bit rubber hose like unlike my art a month ago which was a bit cartoony

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +1

      that's good! keep practicingggg

    • @asapling
      @asapling 2 года назад

      @@MohammedAgbadi thanks I will

  • @freerangeeggs6442
    @freerangeeggs6442 2 года назад +4

    Actual good advice that has helped me heaps:
    "You gotta know the rules before you can break them" I brushed this off as a beginner but as I got older I naturally became more incline to do studies and learn the fundamentals. If I had done that from the beginning I think id be much further along but I don't regret the time I spent drawing just for fun all the time. Now I find studies really fun.
    "Always use a reference" poses, faces, buildings, whatever. Use a reference either directly or indirectly.
    "Draw what you enjoy" art should be enjoyable, otherwise you will burn out and start to hate art.
    Plus some advice I haven't heard anyone say but I've thought of: get invested in fandoms and draw the shit outta them. God drawing Zelda fan art has helped me grow so much as an artist the last couple years.

  • @juggernot4785
    @juggernot4785 2 года назад +10

    Some people who try to give art advise to artist dont even know what their talking about

  • @AzizidarkReborn
    @AzizidarkReborn 2 года назад +9

    I'm glad this video was actually full of inspiring art advice, debunking shite opinions and not just drama and finger and highlighting trash human beings. Thanks you, Mohammed. You're a treasure, brother.

  • @TunaPetunia456
    @TunaPetunia456 2 года назад +20

    In the past, I remember either my mom or one of heir friends telling me that I should draw everyday so I can get better. I literally only draw once or twice a year because my motivation is nonexistent majority of the time. I have so much things I want to draw whenever ideas pop into my mind but eventually I'll be able to make them.

  • @Pensushets
    @Pensushets 2 года назад +2

    For me it was the "don't use references" "stop drawing anime" "learn "real" art" and the ever classic "digital is not real art"

    • @nancyomalley6286
      @nancyomalley6286 2 года назад

      It sounds very elitist to snub a certain art style

  • @cheesypies5166
    @cheesypies5166 2 года назад +2

    good advice i heard once; "Art style is just like handwriting, dont try and make your self into your own artstyle, its somehting that can come naturally, the more you develop over time the better your hand writing will become,"
    they said it better but it made me smile

  • @durandus676
    @durandus676 2 года назад +5

    Draw simple and 3D shapes as you imagine them quickly. When you’re satisfied you’ll be better. It worked. But I did the every day thing too and burnt out. Express yourself is like asking a 2 year old to give a well organized coherent concise speech to a person just starting out with art.

  • @fairsparrow871
    @fairsparrow871 2 года назад +9

    I'm from Russia and on my portrait course, our teacher explained to us the differences between different features and we made around 120 portraits of black and POC people to understand the subject. WTF it means "only propper nose".

  • @my_fae_lady
    @my_fae_lady 2 года назад +2

    I remember this one art advice that is kinda weird and confusing..... But it also kind of helped me too!
    It is basically "When you are drawing a full-body, first, imagine the proportions WITHOUT the hand first. The hand does not add too much importance if you are drawing a full body. Practice on the main focal points. And, then you can add your hands/arms."
    Or in short "Body first, hands last... Unless necessary"
    At first, I was a bit confused... But then, it was kind of the reason why I improved so much!!
    Tho, It might not work for others, it sure did work for me -w-

  • @dr.thomaselliot3566
    @dr.thomaselliot3566 2 года назад +2

    Just draw. This is the simple answer to any art related question. A lot of people say it’s bad advice but it’s not. It’s about the thought, work and hard effort you put into it. “It’s like a tennis player, they are never gonna get good at it until they get blisters all over their hands, because they have been literally swinging the racket all day” Jim Lee

  • @muranziel
    @muranziel 2 года назад +7

    About that "Draw everyday". When you're practicing actively something, you're coditioning your eye, body, motorskills etc... to perform a certain task. The actual developement happens during rest and recovery period. Younger people need less rest. Taking a day or two off every couple days and concentrating on some thing cpompletely different really gives your brain to sink stuff in.

  • @ShiftingFixations
    @ShiftingFixations 2 года назад +6

    I actually did learn realism before cartoons, or at least I learned realism before drawing any cartoon-ish stuff I’d actually be willing to share with the world. Now it’s hard to let myself stylize things, lol. I guess that’s my “style?” Oof. I’m working on getting out of it. I drew a high-saturation vaporwave thing the other day and used ONLY one-way hatching to shade it and it felt *wrong* lol. Looks cool though, I need to break free of the realism thing sometimes.

  • @OO0RI
    @OO0RI 2 года назад +1

    I’m so thankful for my technical school animation class (a highschool course) because we’re not discouraged from doing our personal style, but encouraged to explore new styles from realism to animation fundamentals and computer programs!

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад

      that sounds like a lot of fun! hope you smash it!

  • @tenzinmarius4760
    @tenzinmarius4760 2 года назад +2

    I find with manga learning from art books by Japanese authors is best, because they are usually professionals in that area and know what they are doing.
    I’ve been to many manga workshops, and the ones by artists who didn’t specialise in manga were always the worse, since they said just to copy someone else’s art style.
    But when I went to a workshop run by an actual Japanese mangaka, he gave the best tips for creating interesting characters and how to do proportions easily and correctly.
    One thing he showed us is what different character traits mean in Japanese culture and how they usually effect how the reader views that character (people with big mouths are loud talkers, people with small mouths are quiet etc).
    Even if you can’t speak Japanese, there are books out there translated to English that would really help your art better then those Western books, believe me.

  • @kageseiryuu8675
    @kageseiryuu8675 2 года назад +9

    I love all those "you have to start HERE when drawing X" 'tips'
    I can't even count how many times I began drawing a character starting with just some random accessory they had or a fold in jacket that for some reason was very very fascinating and ended up with a better result than with tips like "start with the head" "start with the body"

  • @boldfacedEeVeE
    @boldfacedEeVeE 2 года назад +9

    "Practice makes perfect"
    False
    Practice makes permanent, so make sure you know your fundamentals and are making good habits, not solidifying bad ones

  • @ayomalumz
    @ayomalumz 2 года назад +12

    Some people need to stop saying things they don’t understand. Most of the people are not even artists and yet they think they know so much

  • @swooperciper1704
    @swooperciper1704 2 года назад +4

    Although I think “learn the rules before you break them” has good intentions, it needs more elaboration in order for that advice to be less obnoxious imo, because artists could take that literally and feel as if they are not allowed to draw what they enjoy ever again until they master it 100%.
    Are they asking the artist to only do fundamentals until they’re supposedly “good enough?”
    Are they saying artists aren’t allowed to draw what got them into art in the first place until they get through all fundamentals?
    Or do they mean do fundamentals and what they like to draw in tandem?
    If it were “Learn the rules while drawing what you enjoy,” it would’ve been more encouraging and less likely for fundamentals to be a chore (I.e. drawing anthros while at the same time using references for the irl counterparts while learning interesting facts).
    Art shouldn’t have to be a chore.

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 2 года назад +2

      That's basically how I learned how to draw. I occasionally dabble in realism here and there, but at least 90% of my art was made out of self indulgence. Chances are, you WILL learn through just drawing what you want to draw.

  • @fudgen.a1249
    @fudgen.a1249 2 года назад +5

    I’m trying to participate on Inktober this year on Reddit, and I noticed my overall painting skills in watercolor have degraded when going off the theme.
    I hate and regret doing this.

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +2

      oh you should still try! it never hurts to try! you'll get back at it sooner than you can imagine. i'm scared of water color because i have never used them in my life!

    • @fudgen.a1249
      @fudgen.a1249 2 года назад

      @@MohammedAgbadi It’s a hard medium to get a handle of, but once you get it, it can genuinely be a lot of fun and rewarding. Rushing and or forcing it though feels absolutely terrible. Especially when I compare it to alcohol markers.
      But then again, watercolors is great for backgrounds and plants, be quite beautiful when you take it slow.

  • @TheKaselord
    @TheKaselord 2 года назад +5

    I took a drawing class this year and within 9 weeks I saw significant improvement in my drawing, so I don't think you even need a certain amount of time, you just need to address a few problems, and how to fix them in your drawings

  • @rodrigomaximilianomarquezm5430
    @rodrigomaximilianomarquezm5430 2 года назад +7

    I’m gonna get blasted if someone reads this, but ok, here I go.
    The worst artistic advice I have heard is “never drawn without a reference”, it has seriously ruined my capacity to drawn things from my imagination, ruined my ability to simplify and made drawing boring for me. Don’t get me wrong using a reference is not bad, it can be helpful to learn new things or whit difficult poses and is 100% essential when you are doing realism, but being dependant on them for drawing cartoonish things is awful.

    • @rowan4684
      @rowan4684 2 года назад +1

      oh i totally agree. references are a great tool, but if you don't want to use them then it's really shitty to tell you that you have to.
      i think what some people forget is that art isn't a job for most people. for a hell of a lot of people, it's a hobby, and it's damn rude to tell someone what they can and cant do in their own private hobby. and it's pretty presumptuous for people to assume that their own preferences should apply to other people
      i hope that it gets easier to regain the fun of drawing. the way you want to draw *is* the good and right way to draw.

  • @Love2Banime
    @Love2Banime 2 года назад +3

    Omg, can totally relate from the second comment. This was something I was told SO many times in school. Truly, I tried drawing differently to "steer away" from anime style, but it was still NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +1

      Exactly!! i just couldn't....i dropped out sadly...never got to finish school

    • @JokeHatesItHere
      @JokeHatesItHere 2 года назад +1

      I actually also tried that but I fell back in because it's my style and I like it

  • @Woopsdiditagain
    @Woopsdiditagain 2 года назад +4

    Quick confession: I used to say "just practice" to people who would ask me how to improve too. That was because I'm just an amateur myself ^^;
    One easy way to avoid getting bad advice is being exact about what you're trying to improve :) Someone who doesn't know where your skill level is at, what kind of art you do and what's bothering you won't be able to help you much :/ so It's great identifying that first :>
    But there's also the case that you just generally want to improve. I guess learning/practicing/using the basics would be a first step 👍✨

  • @bio-weaponn5576
    @bio-weaponn5576 2 года назад +77

    My art tip: Stop listening to youtubers and egotistical teachers and buy a freaking how to draw book.

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +20

      The most underrated comment!!!

    • @veggiedragon1000
      @veggiedragon1000 2 года назад +8

      Specific recommendation: Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards. Goes over the fundamentals and really helps if you can't draw faces, hands, [insert another specific thing here] by learning how to trick your brain into a better state for observing your reference accurately. Has some outdated science about why this works, but it works.
      Many how to draw books are kind of sketchy(lol) and all have that same "break the body down into ovals!" step by step stuff which never worked for me and just encourages using a step by step system rather than just referencing.

    • @greenliongirl07
      @greenliongirl07 2 года назад +1

      Jokes aside, you can find them anywhere and everywhere at almost every price range. I have bought second hand how to draw and reference books anywhere from $5 to $50 on eBay and Amazon. I have bought them at art supply stores, used book stores and even dollar tree.

    • @Sillymodezeenith
      @Sillymodezeenith 2 года назад +1

      I got a few books on perspective and figure drawing from my grandpa, and they improved my art tenfold. Understanding how the world works in the first step to depicting how it works.

    • @NecrochildK
      @NecrochildK 2 года назад +1

      Dynamic Anatomy by Burne Hogarth was one we had to pick up in college and I always found his books incredible. So much so that after college I picked up his book on Dynamic Drawing Hands as well. I think I picked up Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery too? It's been so long I can't remember though.

  • @aurorachan7824
    @aurorachan7824 2 года назад +1

    I just have this one problem for years and that is 'not using guidelines', my art didn't improve even a bit for years when I use that advice until I finally decided not to follow it.
    It worked and my art improve a lot. I don't remember who gave me that advice and it ended up sticking in my mind for years!!!
    Thank God!!! Someone (my friend) finally made me realize it's important to use guidelines.

  • @sylsalto
    @sylsalto 2 года назад +2

    i used to always feel as less of an artist when i saw people could finish drawings in like 10-20 minutes, but i realised that i prefer to be more patient and slow with my art, i can look at it, take a break and come back to it later and realise mistakes i've made that i didn't see before and fix it
    some people prefer drawing at a fast pace and that's okay too! but it's also okay to realise that everyone works at different paces :)

  • @GoofCity
    @GoofCity 2 года назад +4

    My art teacher freshman year actually loved anime and would encourage stylized styles of each kid, but also handed us realism books to practice with. He told us that stylized art is based on real life things, especially anime, so he made sure to have us practice real anatomy and practice of a fluid-like references for animation of a little slime character I created! Sure, the style is stylized, but it stemmed from real life things.

  • @hoo7797
    @hoo7797 2 года назад +5

    "Start drawing from the legs up"
    There's a rule or something, it says the body is like six heads tall. You don't have to literally count the heads that fit in your figure, but it's easier to sort-of feel it when the head is already there. Not to mention that the head is the heaviest body part, so the body will follow the head.

    • @racheln8563
      @racheln8563 2 года назад +1

      You know, I never did master that "drawing a figure X heads tall" stuff. So if you have a stylized character with an oblong head, the figure should be six oblong heads? How do you measure proportion if your character's head is an odd shape? And I noticed none of the instruction books I ever studied said how *wide" a figure should be, so my figures look like they belong in El Greco paintings. (Exceedingly narrow, that is).

  • @Jamafly
    @Jamafly 2 года назад +2

    Idk if I've commented this before but thank you for having subtitles. Being deaf in 1 ear makes it hard to hear at times. Auto captions are a pain. It's means a lot to see creators add them in.

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +1

      thankyou! they're a pain in the butt to do but well worth it

  • @desireemastin
    @desireemastin 2 года назад

    My high school art teacher was the best inspiration and motivator. He had book shelves full of different art books and children’s illustration books, every medium from glass blowers and potters to painters and sketch artists. Every day he just asked us to find something that caught our eye and try to recreate it in whatever medium we wanted, so long as we made art we liked we got an A. He always said that there were no real rules and that art is about making you feel something. I feel like this way of teaching really helped me understand shapes and color in a way I wouldn’t otherwise and I have no fear of using references . We were allowed to paint on the walls, and he had YEARS of students artworks hung up and layered on the walls and ceiling. He gave us the fundamentals and let us explore in our own way. Rest In peace Mr Bell.

  • @ragingchaosgod
    @ragingchaosgod 2 года назад +3

    The whole "don't draw anime" thing led to my having a whole style crisis. It was like I had to develop a whole different style all over again. It made my art look so confused and basic. Once I left school and decided to just embrace my style, anime and all is when I felt like I started to really grow as an artist.
    I get it though. A lot of newbie anime artists give the community a bad rap with the whole "but it's my styyyyyyle" when told to learn anatomy. There's a place for everything. When you're being asked to do a realistic anatomy study, you shouldn't submit a stylized version. Gotta learn to walk before you run and all that.

  • @BETAtheBETA
    @BETAtheBETA 2 года назад +4

    Just draw everyday is the worst thing I ever heard

  • @randomtraveller2
    @randomtraveller2 2 года назад +1

    Wow. Whoever posted that comment about taking breaks must be so cool, and smart, and funny, and beautiful. Fr tho thanks for featuring my comment. I think the most important takeaway here is being able to recognizing good vs bad advice. I probably wouldn't be where I am if I had ever listened to the bad advice people gave me.

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад +1

      Hahaha you’re cool, and smart, and funny, and very beautiful!

  • @no_title0w0
    @no_title0w0 Год назад

    Using references have helped and still does help me to come up with my own ideas for drawing ^^

  • @Pika-Chu64
    @Pika-Chu64 2 года назад +3

    Everytime I watch you I think of black panther

  • @jabtrack123
    @jabtrack123 2 года назад +5

    I’m ngl the fact people have been told to not draw from reference is a bit odd and foreign to me. I’ve been in formal and informal art settings for 10-15yrs now and the only time I’ve ever heard about this whole “don’t draw from reference” mentality is when people online give a list of bad advice they’ve been given like in this video. I’m not doubting it happens but I am starting to think it’s something that exists in particular circles because formal training historically has relied so heavily on developing skills thru things like still-life painting and figure drawing…which literally require references to do. I guess it’s just odd to me that according to a lot of these bad art advice videos en masse people are being told only realism is real art but also don’t draw from reference…

  • @klampleohsample5123
    @klampleohsample5123 2 года назад

    I really appreciate these videos man. I tend to lose motivation to continue practicing and drawing and your videos always get me back in the mood! Great help, Thanks!

    • @MohammedAgbadi
      @MohammedAgbadi  2 года назад

      Glad to hear it! i'll do my best to make more!

  • @aalloy6881
    @aalloy6881 2 года назад

    16:02 Playing Uncle Ruckus's leitmotif was a perfect way to respond to that kind of 'what was that teacher on?' kind of "art tip." Loved it!

  • @eddie-zu7kg
    @eddie-zu7kg 2 года назад +8

    "Don't draw anime/manga"
    Oda making a ton of money from One Piece: ???

    • @fischlseyepatch
      @fischlseyepatch 2 года назад +2

      Dragon ball and Naruto going on for decades and arguably being one of the most popular anime franchises of all time?? Pokemon????

    • @zeroisawesome3369
      @zeroisawesome3369 2 года назад

      Yeah like most of my favorite artist are from japan

  • @itsemmallright
    @itsemmallright 2 года назад +12

    I have a very good art teacher. But the only problem I have with him is that when we're drawing still lives he makes us use a stick to measure the proportions. Now the problem with that is, you don't get any perspective in your drawing and you have to go back. Honestly I do it way faster and more accurate without that dam stick. But he still keeps on insisting that people use it. Maybe it works better for others and I'm just that special.

  • @angelajaime5155
    @angelajaime5155 2 года назад +1

    As someone that has trouble hearing, I really apreciate you for having subtitles in every video :')

  • @pastelloca6976
    @pastelloca6976 2 года назад +1

    It’s nice to hear that the “don’t shade in black” advice isn’t the end all be all of shading. I often times get scared of telling people I shade with the color black (and a couple of other layer settings) because I’ve seen people treat that advice as law and will deem people who shade like that as terrible artists without looking into the execution of said shading

    • @Letcharlieplay2545
      @Letcharlieplay2545 2 года назад +2

      For me it depends on the style for it to work. If you've got bright colors and strong shading, and especially no lineart/colored lineart, black will just muddy those colors and break the piece up. If your colors are dull, you're in monochrome, or going for a pen and ink look, then it can work.