The SHOCKING Facts About Lithium | Lithium Batteries 101 - Motorcycle, ATV & UTV
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Whether you're in the market for a new lithium battery or you're just looking to learn everything about lithium batteries, you've come to the right place. In our Lithium Batteries 101 we go over the most commonly asked questions pertaining to the benefits of a lithium battery compared to lead-acid, charging and maintenance, as well as installation. Stay tuned as Charles goes over everything you need to know when researching for a lithium battery to put in your motorcycle, ATV or UTV.
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Propaganda these batteries will leave you stranded somewhere you cannot jump start them in emergency you better buy two and carry extra one w you at all times. If I’m wrong someone let me know. Thx
I've had the same Shorai battery in my Sprint ST 1050 for about 15 years now. It has never left me stranded. Yes, I do have to warm it up when it's very cold, either by running the headlight and heated grips for a bit or just by cranking it for a while, but that's only when it's so cold that my original lead acid battery wouldn't start at all. I thought it had finally given up this winter and was ready to buy another one, but turned out that between remote work and having a second bike, it just wasn't getting charged as often and after a night on the tender it's happy again. Whenever it does die, I'm definitely buying another, and my other bike will also get one as soon as the oem battery gives me the first hint of trouble.
15 years? Unheard of.
@@ironhorsegladiator5034 it's an outlier, but it's around that age. The bike is a 2005 and I bought it new. Sometime around 2008, give or take a year, the oem battery let me down one too many times and I took a gamble on a lithium. I expect it to die any time now, but maybe it'll be like that one Edison bulb in the firehouse that's still working a century later, no idea. Either way, I've had plenty of time to get used to the quirks of a lithium battery and overall I find it a better tool for the job.
@@ironhorsegladiator5034 if it's Lithium iron phosphate that sounds about right, people hear Lithium and get pre-notions in thier heads based on lithium-ION. search aging wheels electric mower, he put used 13 year old Lithium Iron Phophate 4 batteries out of a prototype EV that haven't been charged in 8 years and they run laps around lead acid. it's disgusting that more people don't know about Lifepo4 and keep buying lead acid. Lifepo4 weigh 3/4 to 1/2 that of lead acid and puts out TWICE the run time (roughly). unlike other batteries after their ten year life span or maximum cycles (uses as in charge up and run downs) they just loose run time they don't die-dead.
EDIT: also Lifepo4 has a VERY similar charge rate to lead acid. just don't go swapping out all of your boat or RV lead acids with only Lifepo4, they will suck the alternator dry if they are too low because they are capable of charging so fast. you need to parallel with a lead acid or two for that.
I have a similar what the hell situation. My Shorai is 10 years old and still kicking. I don't know. I've decided to see how long it will last and not worry about it.
I've heard horror stories of lithium batteries catching fire and burning up the motorcycle. Any truth to that? I'd sure hate to burn up my $30k Harley
Surprised that you didn't cover the potential risks of charging in below freezing temperatures
A lot of them have protection for it
On the charger front id recommend some of the noco chargers. They have some that are like $25, or were, and work great for all kinds of batteries
Are OEM charging systems compatible in charging Lithium Batteries? You mentioned it takes a "special" external charger for maintaining Li batteries, how does the OEM charging system compensate for the use of Lithium batteries without being "special"?
Its because the regular chargers send voltage spikes to the battery which is bad for lithium. Charging systems on bikes dont do this. He mentioned this in the video.
Can they handle 14.5V set point Voltage regulator or do they need a 14.2V set point recharge set up/VRR….?
@@kensmith3665 They can handle 14,5V no problems.
Yeah, like the previous comments, the difference is with the external charger itself. Desulfation mode and the float feature on lead acid chargers are what can damage the lithium battery. The vehicles charging system will work just fine with it. -Charles
so it use special charger . how am i gonna charge it when it connected to my car do i have to disconnect the cable and use special charger?
You will just need a charger or tender that is compatible with lithium batteries.
I believe there is a Hugh difference lithium ion and lithium iron phosphate batteries. I don’t believe I heard you mention either by their proper name, other than the brief glimpse of the lithium ion label on the battery at the end of the video. Things like deep discharge, operating temperature, heat, and fire safety, are worth mentioning in a future video. Lithium iron phosphate (LiFePo) construction is a much better choice in all these areas. Perhaps this would help others to make a more informed choice, and remove some of the fears people have about the, often dangerous, using lithium ion batteries.
Just my 3 cents.✌️
wow it that's exactly the question i have, first can i use a lithium charger for lithium iron and lithium ion , which battery is better for a motorcycle 4 cyl in hot wheather?
I went back to agm... I had two different lithium Batts in two different bikes, BOTH expanded like a samsung note and left me kicking rocks
@josephfriedrich9792 what brands were those batteries? I have an antigravity lithium.
I been skeptical bout lithium batteries… chose not buy. I been on agm/lead acid… had fairly good luck.
@@josephfriedrich9792 Can you elaborate on your conditions? Location, time of year, how long have you had it, and did you charge it. Also what Brand and did it have a BMS?
No one answers if these are good for use on equipment that have a lot of accessories, such as running lights, dash cameras or phone chargers...
Car and motorcycle type batteries should not need or benefit from more cycle's. They are not supposed to be drained. A regular battery Will last a decade or longer. I doubt that lithium will. And unless it has internal heater's it will be useless or damaged in cool weather not to mention cold weather. How about under the hood of a vehicle in warm states. They don't like heat either. Regardless of the battery type draining it down will damage and reduce it's useful Life. I use lithium batteries in alot of things but, not vehicles. Cheers
Lithium is great in torches drills mowers hedge trimmers. But most of the advantages don't play out for starting engines. Even as leisure batteries on camper homes there good. 100ah with much less weight and can discharge 80% I would think a smaller battery and capacitors would be better weight saving on a motor cycle.
Great and onformative video. Please keep them coming! I've wasted a lot of money on Lithium batteries because I didn't truly uderstand the differences. Plus, there's that nasty parasitic draw on the DRZ400S!
30-60 seconds with the headlight on to warm up the battery ! This is the future guys.
The headlight is always on for motorcycles? 😂
@LA Prepper or the DRL light on the better bikes. If its all led it won't be as effective. Any decent bike dies actually turn the headlight on until the engine has started.
Can you store a bike with a lithium battery in it through the winter with a trickle charger that just maintains the charge
I have a Tusk Lithium Pro in my CRF250X and love it! Thanks for the video.
Can we jump start a lithium battery with a jumper? Is it possible and safe?
I dont think so but not sure. I bought an NOCO jumpstarter and the manual says that in must NOT be used with an Lithium battery.
Helpful, thanks. I've had my current bike 15 years... Only on my 4th acid battery, but wondering about a switch. If a battery makes it another 5 years it might be the only bit on the bike that works lol.
I remember using the headlight trick in the 70s to crank a Chevy Impala.
TO EVERYONE IN RUclips LAND
I'm an electronic engineer
If I need a special lithium battery charger to charge a lithium motorcycle battery
THEN WHY AM I NOT CHANGING THE ALTERNATOR AND VOLTAGE REGULATOR ON MY BIKE (THAY ARE FOR LED ACID )
the BMS ( Battery Management System ) in the lithium battery dose this for us !!!
please do not give out False info . the battery is made at the factory as a direct replacement (hens the name "motorcycle" battery) for a led acid battery
AND "DOSE NOT REQURE A special CHARGER" !!
You forgot to mention price will be higher than lead based.snooky pa.
Great video. Got a question about using a jump pack on the battery in case it doesn't start? Can you use a jump pack on a lithium battery? Thanks for any input.
You should be fine as long as it's a battery with a BMS since it can prevent the battery from being over-discharged. If you aren't sure, the rule of thumb is don't jump a lithium battery that has less than 10.5V. If your battery is super low, you'll want to take it out and use a "recovery charger". We have a video coming out soon that goes over some of the features on those chargers. -Charles www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tecmate-optimate-lithium-battery-charger-p
At 3:36 you said your motorcycle charges at 14 .5 volts . That is not true most regulators at the stator that come standard with lead acid battery are 13.5 volts max to charge a 12 volt battery that needs 13.5 volts to charge it . If it had a 14.5 regulator it would over charge the lead acid battery . Only bikes that come from the factory come with the correct regulator needed to charge the 13 volt battery . If you notice the lithium battery will say 13 volts not 12 volts like a lead acid battery does . You can use a lithium battery in a bike that has a 13.5 regulator but it will never put a full charge on the lithium . Look into this before you make a video saying your machine charges at 14.5 volts because that is just not the case if your motocycle comes with a stock lead acid battery . To prove this just put a tester on a started bike's battery terminals
I've seen some information about lithium battery's stating they can't be charged when freezing.
I find it very strange and don't really believe it but i use my bikes all year round and i find it too much of a risk buying one because i never found a confirmation i'm right to call it Bulls**t.
Also a confusing thing is that i want a LiFePo4 battery but most of them still called Lithium-ion and not all of them have a clear "with LiFePo4 technology" in the description.
Any thought about that?
I'm guessing the warming up is when you try too start the engine. So then when the charging starts it's warm. But imagine a kick start bike it cold weather. Won't that cause damage.
Charge it inside or when its warm. Normally (besides the first time you get a new battery) you won't be doing that, and once you start the bike, the engine heats everything up so its fine then.
You definitely want LiFePo4 and not Li-ion, Li-ion doesn't have the right voltage per cell (closest is 11.1v nominal, or 14.8v nominal), so its either too low and would catch fire with standard vehicle charging circuit, or it would be severely below safe rating and would have both very little power and degrade quickly with too low of charged voltage. What you MIGHT be seeing is similar form factor sizes for SOLAR powered and other non-vehicle applications, because then yeah the voltage doesn't need to match lead acid so you won't have those issues.
@@jakegarrett8109 I ride all year round and i don't need to charge it but it will charge anyway after you start en ride off.
That's why i think it's a bit of a strange thing.
It is true, Lithium batteries get ruined if you charge them when less then 0C... Lithium batteries for using in cold has built in heating elements to warm them up before charging starts.
i have a tusk lithium bat and charger. had em over a yr. couldnt be happier.
Those antigravity don’t last long I got a tusk one that lasted triple long as antigravity
Too bad y'all dont have anything listed for an Africa Twin.
Ok but sell me that 401 because you guys and everyone else are out of stock
Anything Below 19 Degrees F, bring it in the house .
weight, and Battery Efficiency, are the two main benefits ... lead acid is 100% in from your alt, and 50% of that power comes back out ... where Li-ion is 100% in, and 90% back out.
that means your Vreg is going to run cooler, and you will get better MPG, or a touch more engine power.
I guess it depends on your battery brand. Zero gravity has it rated to go down to 0° F and it be fine.
battery chemistry is battery chemistry, i am talking LiFePO4 ... that's a 19F limit@@trsskater
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@@trsskater but Do Not talk to them about it, they get information about the rest of us faster than we do about them as it is.
If you have a battery with the restart chip and your stator dies you will not beable to bump start and ride home!! Restart technology sounds great and all till that's the situation then your screwed!
Are you sure that a lithium ion can provide 3 times the cranking amps than a lead acid battery??
I didn't know I could use a lithium battery in my motorcycle.
The weight savings is one of the best parts of using them in a motorcycle!
@@rmatvmcMy motorcycle's charging system is not a problem charging the lithium battery?
@@trainmaster0217 You should be just fine with your motorcycles charging system.
@@rmatvmc OK, thank you
I'm still confused about them being capable of charging with the stator on the engine, can they safely be charged? I've also seen in Amazon comments of potential for killing the engines stator. If this is a problem, due to supplied voltage being too variable, is there any device that might be installed inline to stabilize it?
You bike already has such a device, the regulator/rectifier. It takes the 75 volt AC from the alternator (stator) and turn it in to 14v DC. Or, for some extra safety, get a battery with BMS.
Lithium battery voltage is stable. That's the whole draw of it. It works at fill tilt until the battery dies. The guy on Amazon probably has electrical problems and is blaming it on the battery.
You forgot to say that they explode. I wonder why you forgot that.
So battery and a charger
Lead acid is better suited to a motor vehicle. Lead acid will not overcharge.
What about the bike charging system, It gives dc voltage to charge from the voltage regulator. Is this an issue for charging while riding?
No its not.
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Been looking into getting one for my sportster 1200 agm don't last
if I cant use a regular charger on it,then why is the vehicles charging system OK to use?
Good question. We actually cover that in the video. ruclips.net/video/XcVj9262zjg/видео.html. Lead-acid chargers with "desulfation" and "float" modes can damage a lithium battery (most lead acid chargers have these modes). The voltage spikes and trying to constantly top off the battery is why they can damage a Lithium battery. If you have a charger that doesn't have either of those modes, then sounds good. If you need to buy a charger, you might as well buy the right one though. 🤷♂️ -Charles
I know you are talking about motorcycle and ate but would you know if you can put a lithium battery in a riding mower and can the alternator charge it.
Yes
Thanks for doing this. There is lots of good information here.
Lithium is the only way to go....
Great video. Thanks for your help...
What about the vehicle charging the lithium battery , will that damage the battery as its not a lithium charger
Id like to know as well. Good Question.
As long as your bike is a model year 1980 or beyond and is in good working order, it will safely charge a lithium battery. A bike in good working order should recharge the battery at voltages between 13.4v and 14.6v and be safe for all current battery types (lead acid, AGM, Gel, Lithium).
Can you use one of the , lithium batteries on you waverunner 1995 bombardier
Yes, you could use a lithium battery with a bms in a waverunner.
"Well".... you live and learn. A thorough description and important need to know
Why is an Lithium charger required to charge an Lithium battery but why does it works plug and play in a bike?
I asked an store owner who sells Lithium battery but he did not know either.
The biggest issue would be overcharging. Lithium batteries are very sensitive to overcharging. Which can result in the battery swelling or catching fire. This generally happens when the charger puts out a higher voltage than the battery can take while charging. A designated lithium charger can help maintain the life of the battery.
Sorry guys but if you change from lead-acid battery to a lithium you have to change chargers?? and you don't have to change alternator ???🤔
You will have to make sure your charger is compatible with lithium batteries but you don't need a special alternator.
Regarding storage -
Why not disconnect the positive?
If you accidentally touch the metal tool you're using against the chassis (or any other ground) while removing the positive terminal you'll short to ground. Removing the negitive terminal first will prevent this
3:33
You say the machine puts out 14.5 volts and works great for both batteries..
Then why would i need a charger?
I have a hobby charger but won't the bike keep it charged?
What you see at 2:05 is not a BMS but a cheap balance board. The main pos. and neg. lead go straight to the battery pack so no protection against over or under voltage.
Lmao yes these guys are all lying thru there teeth!! That’s a cheap balance board just like the ones I’ve been using for the last decade or more in my radio controlled rc car and toys 😂🤣 good catch
Good information 👍
For this to be a relatively newer concept in batteries, they sure enough add a lot of maintenance and things that we got to do just to start up our motorcycles. It's too much. Give me lead acid. I'm good.
Its not an upgrade looking at cost and life expectancy. Since my batteries last 8 full years or more, will I get 16 to 24 years out of a Li-Ion battery. Nope at the same cost as an AGM or FLA. Like EVs, more hype than anything.
Do you guys have a video on gps
Assuming you put in LiFePO4 version, like an Antigravity, and it's cold out in the morning as you leave the hotel say 25-30 deg F, you can start it by leaving the lights on for few minutes. But as soon as the engine starts, the 32-56 amp alternator on the bike will charge the battery. LiFePO4 does not like to take a charge at below 32 deg F. It can damage them. Is that true? If so, they aren't a good idea unless you live in Florida?
The SHOCKING Fact is that if you got lithium is better if you don't have car alarm. search for your best choice with no problems. or put a button to kill the battery from inside the car when off.
for batteries with bms can we use standard chargers?
I'm afraid not, the algorithm used on standard chargers won't charge the Lithium battery to volume. Ive also tried to use a solar panel, no go. I even asked Ctek, they said, the resistance to charging causes the standard mains charger to stop feeding. I ended up with a small Noco Genius2, working great. :)
I sure wish folks, you included, would use correct terminology when referring to these types of batteries. Stop calling them lithium. They are lithium iron phosphate batteries. Huge difference!
Bms is not compatible with alternators. Look into what happens when you disconnect the battery from an alternator under load. 600 bucks for a battery rhat smoked 5 alternators in my car and the one in my bike welded the voltage regulator pins to the harness and almost caught fire. This tech is not ready for prime time
wonder which ones have BMS that will turn off charging when temps drop. charging lithium battery below 5c will kill it pretty quick. Lithium are higher Standing Voltage, 13.8V vs Leadacid 12.8V
I havent strated my 17 KTM sxf250 in 2 years, should i try to start it? Or just assume the battery is dead? Can it be recharged or do i need a new battery?
Always love watching your videos, keep em coming RM!
Quicker starting? Quicker to run from the cops. Cold weather 30 second is good. I never maintain the battery, it 5 years old already.
Great description. I recently put one in my 2017 KTM 690 Duke. But these batteries are not recommended for use with the old style potted rectifier/regulator on bikes like my 2002 Moto Guzzi V11 LeMans, as these rectifier/regulators can overcharge the LiFe batteries. The BMS equipped batteries might be able to handle this overcharging but I wouldn’t risk it.
is ir works on aprilia sr150cc battery lithuim ??
and any suggestion for modified parts ??
thanks if you can help!
Excellent. Thanks
You mentioned the surges while on a charge but it’s ok with the vehicle charging?
Where can i get a firepower battery in Canada
Didn't you mean Fire starter battery?
I’ve bought one, it will be my last. Cold weather performance is bad. Winter months require me to place a clamp light with a 100 watt incandescent bulb the night before if I want to ride
Great video thank you! You guys have a great website so much easier to use to find parts and so on. You guys are killing it!
Can you or should you jump start a lithium battery with a jumper pack? Is it "safe"?
Then how the car charge or motorcycle charge dont broke the lithium battery and a plug home acid charger can broke it ?
Great info on the lithiums. My BMW R1300GS is using a BMS battery from Lithiummoto and i got the remote restart feature if ever I leave the power on working on it.
Will my alternator damage the battery ???
No, your alternator will not damage the battery.
you still didnt show how to charge them??
We have a whole video about charging you can check out here: ruclips.net/video/27qnklWD5Fc/видео.html
What's the difference between a Lithium battery, and a Lithium-ion battery?
Regular Lithium batteries are meant for a single use battery, once "dead" they are fully dead. A Lithium-ion battery can be recharged with a charger to bring it back to life. You will end up losing life of the battery if you let the Li-Ion battery die completely though. The Lithium batteries have a higher chance of overheating as well.
@@rmatvmc So...the battery that you are calling "Lithium" is actually a Lithium-ion battery?
@@SpeakerKevin As for these kinds of batteries/larger batteries, they will be lithium-ion. Plain lithium would be something tiny like an 18650.
Great video very informative
Can you charge a Lithium Ion 12v battery with a Lithium Iron (LiFePO4) 12v charger????
Yes, a lithium charger will work for different kinds of lithium batteries. You will still want to check depending on the specific charger you have and make sure you're on the correct charging setting.
hi charles, please which of the lithium batteries will best recommened for a 2014 yamaha Yzf R1 crossplane , coz i need to get one Asap , not having a good battery on my bike has cost me pains and i dont want such pain again ?
Brilliant
I wouldn’t run one of those batteries if they were free.
Can I replace my UPS battery with that battery with a lithium battery 100ah for more capacity? I have a 600 watts UPS in which I have my computer, 2 monitors and the router plug in. Can I use that battery? Thank you for your time and assistance!
Not the intended use. You should look into solar storage batteries in lithium iron phosphate. They will hold a lot of juice for later distribution and are also safe.
Does a typical 2000 erra bike (BMW gs) have the correct charging system to work with one of these batteries? What about my WR250R?
As long as your charging system is operating correctly, a lithium battery will work great.
I have moved two of my Harley’s over to the lithium restart batteries. Issue I’m having is with the usb connection that charges my phone while riding … since switching batteries my phone will not charge while bike is running. As soon as I shut the bikes off the phones again begin charging. Is there anything I can do with the auxiliary usb connection that will allow it to charge my phone while the bike is running?
It looks like others have had that same issue on their Harley's, but not necessarily caused by a battery swap. There is a service bulletin: M1532 BCM re-flash, that might solve that issue. I would talk to your dealer about it, then go from there. static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10195019-0001.pdf Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to check your battery voltage and test the charging system, just to rule any of that out. -Charles
if you need a special tickle charger for the lithium battery. what about the bike's charging system? does it need to be changed too? could it over charge the battery?
Unless you have a bike that's 30+ years old, you won't have to make any changes to your bike's charging system to work with a lithium battery.
Do you need a different voltage regulator rectifier when swapping to a lithium battery?
Unless you have an older motorcycle (1980's), you won't need to do any other upgrades.
Can someone please explain the process, I would like to change to a lithium battery on my motorcycle?
Does a lithium motorcycle battery charge while driving? Will the alternator overcharge the lithium battery or damage it.
Do you have to charge the battery each day, each week, each month?
A lithium battery is a direct replacement for the lead-acid or any other type of battery. Just hook it up and it will charge and work like normal.
What about the charging from the bike while riding? Do you need to add or do anything to the bike to install one of these, or is it plug and play, just throw it in like any new battery?
You shouldn't need to make any changes to your bike to get a lithium battery to work as long as your bike's charging system is in good working order. Motorcycles built before 1980 will need a different regulator if going with a lithium battery.
A lot of motor cycles that don't run lights don't run a rectifier regulator so the AC voltage blows batteries you need to add a regulator rectifier for turn AC from the stator to DC for charging up the battery
I see so many failures and bad comments on How crap lithium is because of this.
Also most motorcycles that come from the factory with a lead acid battery have a voltage regulator that set for max 13.5 volts to charge the battery . A lithium battery takes a 14.5 volts to charge a 13 volt lithium battery so the lithium battery never gets a full charge so it doesn't have the listed cca because its now a full volt less . It doesn't matter how long you ride the bike is never going to put a full charge on the lithium battery . To get a full charge you have to connect it to the proper lithium charger that is giving it 14.5 volts .
You didn't touch on the automotive charge system with the Li. Will it work ok? Any changes to be made? The charge rate on an alternator, works with Li? Why that and not a Pb battery charger?
the external lead acid chargers produce voltage spikes to help prevent calcification of the Pb battery plates, it is those voltage spikes that damage the lipo batteries.
Can they handle 14.5V set point Voltage regulator or do they need a 14.2V set point recharge set up/VRR….?
Yeah, a lot of machines will charge around 14.5V, you should be fine with your stock voltage regulator. -Charles
If I daily ride my bike all year round, will I still need the charger or tender?
There's not much use for a battery maintainer if you ride daily. If you let your bike sit for more then a few days or a week, then it would be a good idea to use one.
One important thing with Lithium batteries is if the temperature of the battery is less then 0c it gets ruined if you charge it at that temperature...
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Does your tusk lithium charger maintain the battery as well for storage? Can I leave it hooked up during the winter months or do I have to go, hook it up, leave it til it’s charged and unhook again?
Yeah, it's designed to maintain and has built in safeguards to leave it connected. It's not a bad idea to periodically check in on everything though. -Charles
Can a lithium battery be jumped if its low?
It is not recommended to jump a lithium battery. It's best to use a lithium charger or jump pack designed for lithium batteries.
@@rmatvmc thank you, do you know if the Antigravity XP-1 jump pack is able to jump lithium batteries? Thanks
Yes, it can. You just need to be careful if the battery is overly discharged because if it is and you try charging it too quickly, damage can occur.
@@rmatvmc Thank you very much, appreciated…
How do the lithium cells stay balanced?
With the “Bms” bs or whatever they call it. At 2:05 it shows a green board inside the battery and then you see the white balance lead that has thin wires connecting going to a white connector. Each of those wires represents a cell
A cheap lead/acid costs $25 and lasts 3 years. A lithium costs $125 and lasts 6 years. Am I missing something?
Please tell where to buy ATV batt for 25$
Lighter weight, some people pay for that, judgement call
I have been running the factory AGM batteries in 4 of my bikes and are still working good, they are from 2007, 2010 2012, and 2013 just keep them charged and they last for at least 10 to 15 years.
Thanks for the info. Can I use an Antigravity XP-5 micro start to jump my tusk lithium pro battery TLFP-7L or will it damage the lithium battery?I don’t believe the TLFP-7L has a battery management system?
If the battery doesn't have a BMS, the rule of thumb is to not jump a lithium battery if it's under 10.5V. If that's the case, you'll want to remove it and charge it. If it's super low, I would look into one of the "recovery charger" options. -Charles www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tecmate-optimate-lithium-battery-charger-p
@@rmatvmc Thank you for the clarification.
Optimum charge percentage for long term storage is roughly 80% storing a lithium at 100% actually will cause it to drain faster, weird I know but it does. I raced R/C at regional level and used lithium in electric class, from 10th to 8th scale, lithium batteries changed R/C racing drastically. My favorite race venue was the annual Phsycho Nitro Blast, with 300 racers, track open 24hours for 3 days
We are talking about batteries not your stupid race crap. Try sticking on the subject better, but I know it's hard when simple minded.
Before you say some "smart" shit I'm referring to the last part of your dumb comment
Ideally, you want to store them at nominal voltage.
RC Heli guy here
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@@onesikm3
I haven't flown in years either. I still have an old 7HV, Atom 500, and stretched 500 sitting on the shelf along with a bunch of planks
Great video only thing you didn't address is these going into a UTV that sees a lot of water and mud riding. Can these be submerged on a regular basis and if not, can they be placed in a battery box with say a 2" vented tube above the bed like most snorkled UTVs?
If water enters the battery (case cracked, etc), they will burn at 3263F
I use one in my jet ski...most are completely waterproof. There is no vent tube for these batteries.